Should Wii games count? POLL

Should 360/PS3 games count since they are not as advanced as PC games?gamecubepad

Outside of Crysis. What game is advanced on the PC.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Should 360/PS3 games count since they are not as advanced as PC games?FantasySports02

Outside of Crysis. What game is advanced on the PC.

total war series?

Oh right is this the latest Wii hater thing? "OMG the Wii is actually getting some pretty good games, don't want to get shown up!" HEY U GAIS's, Wii GAMES DUN HAVE SAME STANDARDS AS REEL GAMES!!!

It's getting kind of sad the lengths people go to to try and discredit the Wii. It's like saying that no other game before this generation would still get the same score as it did then if it were released now just because teh 360 and teh PS3 are so graphically awesum!

if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.Ontain

That can happen, but you'll also see a game get a solid score on the Wii, but never ever get anything close to that if it was on the 360 or PS3.

Like Medal of Honor Heroes 2

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Should 360/PS3 games count since they are not as advanced as PC games?FantasySports02

Outside of Crysis. What game is advanced on the PC.

Every multiplat released looks better on the PC...

if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.Ontain

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Should 360/PS3 games count since they are not as advanced as PC games?FantasySports02

Outside of Crysis. What game is advanced on the PC.

Almost any game that is on PC as well as consoles. For instance, CoD4 runs 1024x600 on consoles, while it can run 1080p with 4xAA on PC. Also the PC version allows for up to 32 players while the 360 is capped at 16. And the keyboard/mouse setup is more accurate.

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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Should 360/PS3 games count since they are not as advanced as PC games?gamecubepad

Outside of Crysis. What game is advanced on the PC.

Almost any game that is on PC as well as consoles. For instance, CoD4 runs 1024x600 on consoles, while it can run 1080p with 4xAA on PC. Also the PC version allows for up to 32 players while the 360 is capped at 16. And the keyboard/mouse setup is more accurate.

This is based on how good your computer is, though. PC games are reviewed onthe hardware that most people have, right?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.FantasySports02

That can happen, but you'll also see a game get a solid score on the Wii, but never ever get anything close to that if it was on the 360 or PS3.

Like Medal of Honor Heroes 2

MoHH2 was a solid game. what it lacked in graphics it made up for in being the first traditional fps to have really great controls. at least to the reviewer.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.goodgunda

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.goodgunda

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

it beat other AAA games for the 360 and ps3 and pc that year to take the GOTY. clearly they said it's on par with the cream of the crop from the other consoles and actually bettered them. it couldn't have done that if they thought it would be 8 or less if it was multiplat.

This is based on how good your computer is, though. PC games are reviewed onthe hardware that most people have, right?

FantasySports02

A $115 video card will run CoD4 at those settings, so if anything it's cheaper and you get better gfx on PC at this point in the gen cycle.

count for what?VendettaRed07

For when comparing them with 360/PS3 games

Since the standards are different compared with the 360 and PS3.FantasySports02

1. The only standard that varies is graphics, and, as we know, is one of the less important when reviews are written (check any GTA review).

2. This poll is useless, in System Wars they count. Here.

3. This thread = EPIC FAIL.

[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]Since the standards are different compared with the 360 and PS3.IronBass

1. The only standard that varies is graphics, and, as we know, is one of the less important when reviews are written (check any GTA review).

2. This poll is useless, in System Wars they count. Here.

3. This thread = EPIC FAIL.

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Should 360/PS3 games count since they are not as advanced as PC games?gamecubepad

Outside of Crysis. What game is advanced on the PC.

Almost any game that is on PC as well as consoles. For instance, CoD4 runs 1024x600 on consoles, while it can run 1080p with 4xAA on PC. Also the PC version allows for up to 32 players while the 360 is capped at 16. And the keyboard/mouse setup is more accurate.

regardless of resolution and frame rate the game will still be pushing the same amount of polygons, character models, textures, effects, AI, etc.. just because you can change the settings of a game due to the fact you have a system which doesn't go through gens and is constantly improving doesn't make the game more advanced, it just makes your hardware more advanced.

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

FantasySports02

it's more like horsepower vs user interface.

graphics are just the most obvious benefit of the extra horsepower this gen. some will say AI and physics but they aren't often as noticable.

[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

Ontain

it's more like horsepower vs user interface.

graphics are just the most obvious benefit of the extra horsepower this gen. some will say AI and physics but they aren't often as noticable.

This.

Since the standards are different compared with the 360 and PS3.FantasySports02

What I'm curious to know is how you think the standards are different compared to the other two machines.

No offense, but your original post here seems very vague.

doesn't make the game more advanced, it just makes your hardware more advanced.

opex07

I agree with you on some level, but that's kind of the point I was trying to make. The PC allows for twice as many characters as the 360 version and runs at 3x the resolution. So based on the limitation of the hardware on the 360/PS3 the games should receive lower ratings than the PC version which is superior. In the same manner Wii games should receive lower score for less characters and lower res gfx.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.metroidfood

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

Game or the year or the loser of the year, wii games would score much lowerr on ps3/360 and thats a fact.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

IronBass

it's more like horsepower vs user interface.

graphics are just the most obvious benefit of the extra horsepower this gen. some will say AI and physics but they aren't often as noticable.

This.

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.goodgunda

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

Game or the year or the loser of the year, wii games would score much lowerr on ps3/360 and thats a fact.

why? what because of the graphics. Of course if it was the same game nothing changed then yeah, take for example if the exact game Trauma Center from the wii no changes at all went on either 360/ps3 it would score lower. Yeah graphics would take a few points off but the main thing that would put it down is, you would'nt really be able to play it. Try doing quick fast cuts and what not with an anolog stick.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.goodgunda

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

Game or the year or the loser of the year, wii games would score much lowerr on ps3/360 and thats a fact.

Ignoring the facts, aren't you? What don't you understand? SMG was compared to the best the 360, PS3 and the PC had to offer and won, okay? It's as simple as that.

Furthermore, if Wii games were on the 360/PS3, they would obviously be adjusted so that they make use of the strengths of each particular console.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

goodgunda

it's more like horsepower vs user interface.

graphics are just the most obvious benefit of the extra horsepower this gen. some will say AI and physics but they aren't often as noticable.

This.

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

All of them are more genre-based than hardware/based. We are talking about hardware's capabilities, and "gameplay, , cinemetic stories, much more realistic" has nothing to do with it.

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

goodgunda

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the same with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

IronBass

it's more like horsepower vs user interface.

graphics are just the most obvious benefit of the extra horsepower this gen. some will say AI and physics but they aren't often as noticable.

This.

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

All of them are more genre-based than hardware/based. We are talking about hardware's capabilities, and "gameplay, , cinemetic stories, much more realistic" has nothing to do with it.

Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

Ontain

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the some with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.Hexagon_777

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

Game or the year or the loser of the year, wii games would score much lowerr on ps3/360 and thats a fact.

Ignoring the facts, aren't you? What don't you understand? SMG was compared to the best the 360, PS3 and the PC had to offer and won, okay? It's as simple as that.

Furthermore, if Wii games were on the 360/PS3, they would obviously be adjusted so that they make use of the strengths of each particular console.

EXACTLY, they would try to make it better and if they dont, then they would score lower, thats what i am trying to say. You are the one that doesnt understand.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

All of them are more genre-based than hardware/based. We are talking about hardware's capabilities, and "gameplay, , cinemetic stories, much more realistic" has nothing to do with it.

goodgunda

Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.

depends on the game. SMG for example had better gameplay than the vast majority of ps3/360 games. it doesn't have a cinematic stories but it did have a charming one. and it should in no way have been much more realistic. don't just focus on the type of games you like.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

goodgunda

you realize that if a wii game has bad online they take points from it too right? same with replayability.

Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.goodgunda

I'm not discussing if Wii games have "cinematic histories" or not, I just said that those things are not part of the basic review standards:

Grpahics

Sound

Gameplay

Replay Value

Tilt

The only area that Wii games lack due hardware specification is the first one.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

So graphics is the only thing that seperates the Wii from 360/PS3? That's the only technical difference?

goodgunda

it's more like horsepower vs user interface.

graphics are just the most obvious benefit of the extra horsepower this gen. some will say AI and physics but they aren't often as noticable.

This.

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

All of them are more genre-based than hardware/based. We are talking about hardware's capabilities, and "gameplay, , cinemetic stories, much more realistic" has nothing to do with it.

Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.

umm gameplay is subjective really, some people like the game play in an rts and others dont.

cinemetic stories is more down to the game really, heck even MGS 1 still has better cinematic stories than todays games its really down to the game your playing and not hardware unless your taking about GRAPHICS.

what do you mean much more realistic, as in realistic graphics or gameplay like the chances of someone getting their hold on a rocket launcher is not so realistic, or the fact when you die in a game you can just start again cos thats very realistic.

Of course they should count, they have the same standards as PS3 and 360 games. What world do you live in?Willy105

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

goodgunda

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the some with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

Replayability? Since when are Wii games not replayable?

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Ignoring the facts, aren't you? What don't you understand? SMG was compared to the best the 360, PS3 and the PC had to offer and won, okay? It's as simple as that.

Furthermore, if Wii games were on the 360/PS3, they would obviously be adjusted so that they make use of the strengths of each particular console.

goodgunda

EXACTLY, they would try to make it better and if they dont, then they would score lower, thats what i am trying to say. You are the one that doesnt understand.

If 360/PS3 games were put on the Wii, the developers would also try to make use of its strengths...:?

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]Since the standards are different compared with the 360 and PS3.goodgunda

1. The only standard that varies is graphics, and, as we know, is one of the less important when reviews are written (check any GTA review).

2. This poll is useless, in System Wars they count. Here.

3. This thread = EPIC FAIL.

1. How about adding online, replayibility, sound, cinematic to graphics? Thats almost everything that a great game has.

2. So far, more messages are against this thread and the poll reflects thats too so how is it useless?

3. Your post = EPIC FAIL

1. I don't know about you, but the Wii has games with online, are replayable. have sound, have cinematic gameplay, and they certaintly use a TV, therefore they have graphics.

2. Messages against this thread means that the thread is dislikable, therefore useless.

3. Level 3 = EPIC FAIL (just kidding, I was Level 3 once too)