Should Wii games count? POLL

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]Since the standards are different compared with the 360 and PS3.goodgunda

1. The only standard that varies is graphics, and, as we know, is one of the less important when reviews are written (check any GTA review).

2. This poll is useless, in System Wars they count. Here.

3. This thread = EPIC FAIL.

1. How about adding online, replayibility, sound, cinematic to graphics? Thats almost everything that a great game has.

There are a LOT of both PS3 and 360 that lack those aspects, too. But we still count them.

2. So far, more messages are against this thread and the poll reflects thats too so how is it useless?

Did you read the link? ("Here" is actually a link). It is a link to the official list of AAA games this gen. And yes, Wii games count. That's why this poll is useless, because System Wars RULES already said that Wii games count.

Here's the link again, in a clearer way:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

3. Your post = EPIC FAIL

You have just selfowned.

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

Willy105

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the some with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

Replayability? Since when are Wii games not replayable?

Name 5 good games with solid online, and i dont mean online like SSBB's. Also, lots of people got bored of SSBB i heard.

Most of the wii games suck at gameplay due to the motion controlls. Its also disliked more than regular ps3/360. I am sure there was a poll on it.

S*** or no online = fail at replay value. Games are all about online this era buddy, get with teh times.

goodgunda

The games which do not use the motion controlls corectly are given bad grades for it.

There are a number of good online games on the Wii. In fact there is a Nintendo done tournament this week for Mario Kart. I use to play mario strikers online all the time and never had a problem with it. Unless I lost :cry:

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]Since the standards are different compared with the 360 and PS3.IronBass

1. The only standard that varies is graphics, and, as we know, is one of the less important when reviews are written (check any GTA review).

2. This poll is useless, in System Wars they count. Here.

3. This thread = EPIC FAIL.

1. How about adding online, replayibility, sound, cinematic to graphics? Thats almost everything that a great game has.

There are a LOT of both PS3 and 360 that lack those aspects, too. But we still count them.

2. So far, more messages are against this thread and the poll reflects thats too so how is it useless?

Did you read the link? ("Here" is actually a link). It is a link to the official list of AAA games this gen. And yes, Wii games count. That's why this poll is useless, because System Wars RULES already said that Wii games count.

3. Your post = EPIC FAIL

You have just selfowned.

1. But there are more wii games that lack than ps3/360. Alot more.

2. Whats the point of the link when i think the gfames dont count.

3. Noooo, you self owned!

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

Willy105

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the some with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

Replayability? Since when are Wii games not replayable?

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.goodgunda

I've not discussing if Wii games have "cinemetic histories" or not, I was saying that those things are not par of the basic review standards:

Grpahics

Sound

Gameplay

Replay Value

Tilt

The only area that Wii games lack due hardware specification is the first one.

umm thats only at gamespot bud. we use gamerankings here.

last time i checked, HD sound was better than SD sound.

Most of the wii games suck at gameplay due to the motion controlls. Its also disliked more than regular ps3/360. I am sure there was a poll on it.

S*** or no online = fail at replay value. Games are all about online this era buddy, get with teh times.

higher quality doesnt mean better sound, sure things sound better in high quality but its really subjective. Example what would be better music you really dont like in HD or music you really like in SD? Sure if the music you like is in HD thats a bonus.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.goodgunda

I've not discussing if Wii games have "cinemetic histories" or not, I was saying that those things are not par of the basic review standards:

Grpahics

Sound

Gameplay

Replay Value

Tilt

The only area that Wii games lack due hardware specification is the first one.

umm thats only at gamespot bud. we use gamerankings here.

Welcome to System Wars. We use Gamespot here.

last time i checked, HD sound was better than SD sound.

Ok, I give you that.

Most of the wii games suck at gameplay due to the motion controlls. Its also disliked more than regular ps3/360. I am sure there was a poll on it.

Polls are irrelevant. There a lot of Wii games with high scores due gameplay.

S*** or no online = fail at replay value. Games are all about online this era buddy, get with teh times.

That's a disadvantage? Yes. But we still count Wii games. System Wars's Rules. Like it or not.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

goodgunda

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the some with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

Replayability? Since when are Wii games not replayable?

Name 5 good games with solid online, and i dont mean online like SSBB's. Also, lots of people got bored of SSBB i heard.

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Madden NFL 07,08,09

3. Medal of Honor Heroes

4. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09

5. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008

There are more, and I don't see why Smash Bros doesn't count, since the game is online, and it's great with friends online. I also don't see why people would get bored of SSBB, but everybody gets bored of a genre they aren't very interested in.

Whats the point of the link when i think the gfames dont count.

goodgunda

That's the good thing of democracy, that no one cares what you think. Here, in Gamespot System Wars Forums, Wii games count. If you think the contrary, it is absolutely irrelevant.

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Madden NFL 07,08,09

3. Medal of Honor Heroes

4. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09

5. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008

There are more, and I don't see why Smash Bros doesn't count, since the game is online, and it's great with friends online. I also don't see why people would get bored of SSBB, but everybody gets bored of a genre they aren't very interested in.

Willy105

I would also like to add Mario Strikers which has good online.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

What about sound, gameplay, smoothness, cinemetic stories, much more realistic??

goodgunda

sound yes as well though also less noticable than graphics. as for everything else. they can be about the some with the major difference being in graphics like we mentioned.

And i also forgot online and replayibility. Thats where wii games epic fail :lol:

Replayability? Since when are Wii games not replayable?

Name 5 good games with solid online, and i dont mean online like SSBB's. Also, lots of people got bored of SSBB i heard.

Did you only start gaming this gen or something? Stop being so ignorant, you're saying that a game can't have good replayability unless it has online. So you're saying I just imagined my 11 other run throughs of RE4, or that I just imagined playing games without online more than ones with online? You really are just a plain and simple Wii hater, it's obvious and I'm sure many people in this thread can no longer take any of your opinions seriesly.

Crap i forgot to say exclusives.

:lol: at how all sport games except mario

goodgunda

they have online play don't they? I believe that was your question

Crap i forgot to say exclusives.

:lol: at how all sport games except mario

goodgunda

Wow. I'm sorry to tell you this, but Mario Kart is a sport game. Medal of Honor isn't.

It's ok. Just a small mistake.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Madden NFL 07,08,09

3. Medal of Honor Heroes

4. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09

5. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008

There are more, and I don't see why Smash Bros doesn't count, since the game is online, and it's great with friends online. I also don't see why people would get bored of SSBB, but everybody gets bored of a genre they aren't very interested in.

HarlockJC

I would also like to add Mario Strikers which has good online.

I know, but he just asked for five.

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.IronBass

I've not discussing if Wii games have "cinemetic histories" or not, I was saying that those things are not par of the basic review standards:

Grpahics

Sound

Gameplay

Replay Value

Tilt

The only area that Wii games lack due hardware specification is the first one.

umm thats only at gamespot bud. we use gamerankings here.

Welcome to System Wars. We use Gamespot here.

last time i checked, HD sound was better than SD sound.

Ok, I give you that.

Most of the wii games suck at gameplay due to the motion controlls. Its also disliked more than regular ps3/360. I am sure there was a poll on it.

Polls are irrelevant. There a lot of Wii games with high scores due gameplay.

S*** or no online = fail at replay value. Games are all about online this era buddy, get with teh times.

That's a disadvantage? Yes. But we still count Wii games. System Wars's Rules. Like it or not.

Then i guess that the TC shouldve b een more specific with asking if they count or not ONLY AT SYSTEM WARS.

Pce out then, i go by every world not only gamespot :lol:

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Madden NFL 07,08,09

3. Medal of Honor Heroes

4. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09

5. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008

There are more, and I don't see why Smash Bros doesn't count, since the game is online, and it's great with friends online. I also don't see why people would get bored of SSBB, but everybody gets bored of a genre they aren't very interested in.

HarlockJC

I would also like to add Mario Strikers which has good online.

yeah that has great online and some really good players. heck 80% of the time I get beat bad lol

Then i guess that the TC shouldve b een more specific with asking if they count or not ONLY AT SYSTEM WARS.

Pce out then, i go by every world not only gamespot :lol:

goodgunda

So do I. Wii games count everywhere, not just Gamespot.

yeah that has great online and some really good players. heck 80% of the time I get beat bad lol

Mitazaki

I know how you feel. One of the reason I don't play online very much is becuase I find out how bad I really am at any random game. :lol:

Mario Stickers can take a lot of skill to play more than most think.

Also another game which is played online with a scoreboard is POP. I even have friends which I can compare scores with.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.goodgunda

I've not discussing if Wii games have "cinemetic histories" or not, I was saying that those things are not par of the basic review standards:

Grpahics

Sound

Gameplay

Replay Value

Tilt

The only area that Wii games lack due hardware specification is the first one.

umm thats only at gamespot bud. we use gamerankings here.

Welcome to System Wars. We use Gamespot here.

last time i checked, HD sound was better than SD sound.

Ok, I give you that.

Most of the wii games suck at gameplay due to the motion controlls. Its also disliked more than regular ps3/360. I am sure there was a poll on it.

Polls are irrelevant. There a lot of Wii games with high scores due gameplay.

S*** or no online = fail at replay value. Games are all about online this era buddy, get with teh times.

That's a disadvantage? Yes. But we still count Wii games. System Wars's Rules. Like it or not.

Then i guess that the TC shouldve b een more specific with asking if they count or not ONLY AT SYSTEM WARS.

Pce out then, i go by every world not only gamespot :lol:

Well i hope you speak better English in the *REAL WORLD*.

Multi-player is by the way more subjective than a essential to games. I dont remember since the Megadrive days people saying "OMG GAMES NEED ONLINE" because like me who lives in the *REAL WORLD* has friends who go to each others houses and play games together and dont need to play people who are in *INTERNET WORLD* at games.

Sheesh is this what the internet has done to the *REAL WORLD*? Dumbed down teenages (No offence to many Teens)

Overall: Good single player games with subjective online > Bad single player games where online is the essential component.

Oh and Boom Blox has good online, Mario Kart, SSBB also.

It's a tricky question. There are different standards for sure, the reviewer doesn't expect Wii games to run in 720p like he does from PS3/360 games, but then again the same could be said about PC, if a PC game was locked in 720p and 30fps it would certainly get points docked for it, so there are certain standards for sure, even GS themselves admit this. Then again when you look at the multiplats, they are mostly scored lower on the Wii so who knows.

But all in all I think the standards are close enough to be comparable with each other, a good game on Wii would be a good game on PS3/360/PC as well.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

yeah that has great online and some really good players. heck 80% of the time I get beat bad lol

HarlockJC

I know how you feel. One of the reason I don't play online very much is becuase I find out how bad I really am at any random game. :lol:

Mario Stickers can take a lot of skill to play more than most think.

Also another game which is played online with a scoreboard is POP. I even have friends which I can compare scores with.

yeah that has a lot skill and tactics to it, anyone whos not really played it online will think its just a crazy wacky game but really each main character has different abilites that can effect the game in so many ways aswell as the side kicks.

You also have to take into the account that you cant just randomly attack players as they get an item for it, which if use right can be a powerful tool.

Then theres all sorts of plays you need to think about, do you try go for the powershots or do you go for the passing game to build power up on the ball to get that quick power hit in.

Wow there really is a lot to this game than I remembered lol

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]Whatever you say but wii games still doesnt have those better than ps3/360. And those things has to do a alot with how good a game is.goodgunda

I've not discussing if Wii games have "cinemetic histories" or not, I was saying that those things are not par of the basic review standards:

Grpahics

Sound

Gameplay

Replay Value

Tilt

The only area that Wii games lack due hardware specification is the first one.

umm thats only at gamespot bud. we use gamerankings here.

No, the official ruling was anarchy. Still, the Gamespot criteria is similar to what many sites go by.

last time i checked, HD sound was better than SD sound.

As far as I know, sound quality is the exact same between the Wii and 360/PS3. There is such a thing as high-definition sound, but that is different from HD TVs.

Most of the wii games suck at gameplay due to the motion controlls. Its also disliked more than regular ps3/360. I am sure there was a poll on it.

Play Trauma Center on the 360 or PS3 and get back to me. Gameplay has nothing to do with the console, only the devs.

S*** or no online = fail at replay value. Games are all about online this era buddy, get with teh times.

"Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Calibre" has no online. It does however have a branching storyline with multiple endings and events that generally takes about fifty hours of gameplay to complete. I am currently on my sixth time playing the game. Online is the biggest gimmick that the industry has ever seen. I've only played Team Fortress 2 for a few hours and already I'm getting bored. However, a game like Super Mario Galaxy or Diablo 2 (offline) draws me in again and again. Online is no replacement for a decent singleplayer experiance.

Your arguments are misconceptions at best, mere opinions at worst.

[QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.Ontain

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

it beat other AAA games for the 360 and ps3 and pc that year to take the GOTY. clearly they said it's on par with the cream of the crop from the other consoles and actually bettered them. it couldn't have done that if they thought it would be 8 or less if it was multiplat.

SMG is the only wii game that you can make that argument with. NMO got a 9.0 here, have you played that game? What do you think it would have scored on the ps3/360? Wario ware, SSMB is not even as good a SC4 which scored a 8.5. I have a wii and the only game that deserves a high score is SMG even then I would say a 9.0. I still have more fun with the 2d mario's over SMG. It really had no replay value for me. Purple coins, *** that there more annoying then fun.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.lolkie_81

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

it beat other AAA games for the 360 and ps3 and pc that year to take the GOTY. clearly they said it's on par with the cream of the crop from the other consoles and actually bettered them. it couldn't have done that if they thought it would be 8 or less if it was multiplat.

SMG is the only wii game that you can make that argument with. NMO got a 9.0 here, have you played that game? What do you think it would have scored on the ps3/360? Wario ware, SSMB is not even as good a SC4 which scored a 8.5. I have a wii and the only game that deserves a high score is SMG even then I would say a 9.0. I still have more fun with the 2d mario's over SMG. It really had no replay value for me. Purple coins, *** that there more annoying then fun.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.lolkie_81

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

it beat other AAA games for the 360 and ps3 and pc that year to take the GOTY. clearly they said it's on par with the cream of the crop from the other consoles and actually bettered them. it couldn't have done that if they thought it would be 8 or less if it was multiplat.

SMG is the only wii game that you can make that argument with. NMO got a 9.0 here, have you played that game? What do you think it would have scored on the ps3/360? Wario ware, SSMB is not even as good a SC4 which scored a 8.5. I have a wii and the only game that deserves a high score is SMG even then I would say a 9.0. I still have more fun with the 2d mario's over SMG. It really had no replay value for me. Purple coins, *** that there more annoying then fun.

First, I'd like to point out that SSBB (don't know where you got the M from) has far more unlockable content and adventure mode content than SCIV. In fact, it's quite possibly the most content stuffed game in history...

As for No More Heroes? I can't think of any game that's NMO that got a 9.0... The graphics are incredibly striking in combat, and while simplistic are more the result of an art-$tyle than an attempt at realism. As for gameplay, the game flies on it's varied minigames, satisfying hack & slash gameplay, and amusing dialogue.

Finally, I think SMG has amazing replay value. I finally beat Luigi's purple coins a few days ago, and from there grabbing the last two stars was a piece of cake. I'm currently at just over thirty stars as Luigi, I find the game has excellent replay value. As for the purple coins being annoying? You call it an annoyance, I call it a challenge. You don't have to do them to forward the game, and there are no glitches. That's not the definition of an annoyance. A mandatory fetch or escort quest is an annoyance, these are just a challenge.

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.HelixTurnHelix

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

it beat other AAA games for the 360 and ps3 and pc that year to take the GOTY. clearly they said it's on par with the cream of the crop from the other consoles and actually bettered them. it couldn't have done that if they thought it would be 8 or less if it was multiplat.

SMG is the only wii game that you can make that argument with. NMO got a 9.0 here, have you played that game? What do you think it would have scored on the ps3/360? Wario ware, SSMB is not even as good a SC4 which scored a 8.5. I have a wii and the only game that deserves a high score is SMG even then I would say a 9.0. I still have more fun with the 2d mario's over SMG. It really had no replay value for me. Purple coins, *** that there more annoying then fun.

I never said I couldnt do it. I have completed everyone I have attempted. I CAN do it, I just find it more annoying then fun. You have your opinion and I have mine. I dont know why I have to suck because I find them annoying.

Ya i no rite? The wee is last gen and shuldnt count! I meen doo we count PS2 games anymore? How bout Xbox games? Or Gamecube (AKA the original wee) games. amirite?

:|

But seriously. Yes, they should count.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.goodgunda

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

Game or the year or the loser of the year, wii games would score much lowerr on ps3/360 and thats a fact.

How is that a fact when we have never even seen a Nintendo game on the other consoles to use as an example?
You can't turn your assumptions into fact when not even you see how they would do on a different console of the opposite companies.

As for this thread, Wii games should definitely count. As people already said, Mario Galaxy beat out every other game last year for GOTY. And to an extent the previous year you can say Zelda Twilight Princess won GOTY according to other award ceremonies.

[QUOTE="goodgunda"][QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="goodgunda"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if an AAA wii game can beat out other AAA games on other platforms for GOTY then yes they count.Nerd_Man

The AAA game with same quality wouldnt be AAA on ps3/360. mario galaxy wouldnt be a 9.5 on 360/ps3, it would be much lower.

I say no, they shouldnt count.

Yet for some reason, SMG beat out 360/PS3 games with equal scores to get GotY. :roll:

Seriously, this thread has been done before, and the clear answer is yes. Just because the Wii has technical limitations the other consoles don't doesn't allow you to discredit the scores its games receive.

Game or the year or the loser of the year, wii games would score much lowerr on ps3/360 and thats a fact.

How is that a fact when we have never even seen a Nintendo game on the other consoles to use as an example?
You can't turn your assumptions into fact when not even you see how they would do on a different console of the opposite companies.

As for this thread, Wii games should definitely count. As people already said, Mario Galaxy beat out every other game last year for GOTY. And to an extent the previous year you can say Zelda Twilight Princess won GOTY according to other award ceremonies.

Exactly. And that's a f-ing Gamecube port.

Bottom line is, graphical limitations don't make a game. There are certain SNES games that I consider to be better than most current gen games. Why do you think ****c/retro download-able titles are so incredibly popular?

The whole logic behind "Wii isn't as graphically capable so it doesn't count" is skewed. If Xbox put out a new, graphically superior system tomorrow, would that then make all current 360 titles not count as well? No.

What a joke.

Um, yes.

no they shouldn't because their terribleLastRedMage

care to explain?

Oh right is this the latest Wii hater thing? "OMG the Wii is actually getting some pretty good games, don't want to get shown up!" HEY U GAIS's, Wii GAMES DUN HAVE SAME STANDARDS AS REEL GAMES!!!

bobbetybob

What are these games of which you speak?

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

hakanakumono

You know what? I agree.

Unless the game is Zelda, or StarFox or Metroid Prime, or anything of that ilk. Mario is not in that elite group.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

ukillwegrill

You know what? I agree.

Unless the game is Zelda, or StarFox or Metroid Prime, or anything of that ilk. Mario is not in that elite group.

I find wii grading to be ridiculous.

How did Wario Ware get a 9.0?

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

hakanakumono

You know what? I agree.

Unless the game is Zelda, or StarFox or Metroid Prime, or anything of that ilk. Mario is not in that elite group.

I find wii grading to be ridiculous.

How did Wario Ware get a 9.0?

I would recommend to read the review to find out...Just an idea

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

ukillwegrill

You know what? I agree.

Unless the game is Zelda, or StarFox or Metroid Prime, or anything of that ilk. Mario is not in that elite group.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

HarlockJC

You know what? I agree.

Unless the game is Zelda, or StarFox or Metroid Prime, or anything of that ilk. Mario is not in that elite group.

I find wii grading to be ridiculous.

How did Wario Ware get a 9.0?

I would recommend to read the review to find out...Just an idea

I did.

An assortment of mini games shouldn't get more than 8.0 imo.

The fact is it just can't compare with other 8.0 games really. I mean, lets say we were to give MGS4 a 9.0 (10 is ridiculous).

How could Wario Ware even compare?

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Wii: subtract -.5 points to find the real score.

Count them but don't consider wii 8.0 a 360/PS3 8.0.

hakanakumono

You know what? I agree.

Unless the game is Zelda, or StarFox or Metroid Prime, or anything of that ilk. Mario is not in that elite group.

I find wii grading to be ridiculous.

How did Wario Ware get a 9.0?

I would recommend to read the review to find out...Just an idea

I did.

An assortment of mini games shouldn't get more than 8.0 imo.

The fact is it just can't compare with other 8.0 games really. I mean, lets say we were to give MGS4 a 9.0 (10 is ridiculous).

How could Wario Ware even compare?

by being fun and weird, mini games that end too quickly and have no point. like pick up a phone? Don't know how it got a 9 but it did so no point arguing about it.

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hakanakumono

by being fun and weird, mini games that end too quickly and have no point. like pick up a phone? Don't know how it got a 9 but it did so no point arguing about it.

This is system wars.

I know, just wanted to put my point of view in.. that's all :P

I did.

An assortment of mini games shouldn't get more than 8.0 imo.

The fact is it just can't compare with other 8.0 games really. I mean, lets say we were to give MGS4 a 9.0 (10 is ridiculous).

How could Wario Ware even compare?

hakanakumono

When reviewing a game like a collection of minigames the review is based on how good a minigames collection should be. MGS4 review is based on other games in it's same genre. If WarioWare is the best collection of minigames on the market then it's score should refect that.

You don't compare MGS4 with SF4 do you? No, but you can compare SF with something like Tekken.

You may not like minigames but others do. A reviewer has to try their best to be unpartial there is no reason why a minigame collection, if done well enoght could not even be a 10 game some day.