shouldn't TVs go into the cost of a console?

All these console fanboys keep saying that pc is expensive like $1500+ but then some sensible guy shows a build for like 500 bucks but then he gets penalized for not including a monitor. If monitors are accounted for a pc's price then shouldnt a tv be included in consoles price?

btw, the arguement that everyone has a tv already doesnt work because well obviously everyone also has a pc especially YOU since you are reading this.

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

Sailor_Enlil

And 99.9% of people building a pc already have a monitor.

Sure, if it wasn't already a given that we all have TV's.

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

Sailor_Enlil

no. you dont need to buy a tv when you buy a console, since you probably already have one.. who seriously buys a tv every generation for their new console?

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

razgriz_101

You should factor in the couch we sit on while playing too!

And 99.9% of people building a pc already have a monitor.

warmaster670

I have never seen anyone argue that the cost of a gaming PC should include a monitor. Seriously. I am sure someone somewhere has made that argument, but it is by no means common. Just like no one prices in a keyboard and mouse.

It isn't particularly germane. A gaming PC is still considerably more expensive than a console, independent of the monitor/display.

I don't really care. I've recycled my old pc case, monitor, mouse/keyboard, speakers, joystick, dvd burner, and flash card reader from my old pc. Yet, I consider my current pc as a totally new pc.

Personally, I find these console-pc cost debates quite silly. Actually, I find console-pc debates silly, period.

so what? every family i know has atleast like 2 pc's in their house and atleast one of them being desktops. so i guess the only cost to account for with that logic is the graphics card...iliatay

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

warmaster670

And 99.9% of people building a pc already have a monitor.

no. you dont need to buy a tv when you buy a console, since you probably already have one.. who seriously buys a tv every generation for their new console?

Sword-Demon

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]And 99.9% of people building a pc already have a monitor.

killab2oo5

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

iliatay

I'm typing on a laptop from 2005. If I decided to build a new desktop, I'd have to invest in a new monitor.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]And 99.9% of people building a pc already have a monitor.

iliatay

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

iliatay

[QUOTE="iliatay"]so what? every family i know has atleast like 2 pc's in their house and atleast one of them being desktops. so i guess the only cost to account for with that logic is the graphics card...killab2oo5

Only a HDTV imo.. you need one of those to max out console games.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

iliatay

Really is that the beest you can come out with and what would you say if i was typing this from my iTouch or w/e but nah really im on my laptop cause its sitting beside my bed but its the only one in the house cause my parents are utter useless with tech they thought their HD telly was a waste cause they dont have it rigged up to HD until i did it lol.

The telly is a necessity on many levels its a source of entertainment and its free to an extent if you dont subscribe to cable you will still have a basic service through Freeview.The PC for a lot of things it really relies on the internet which when you look at a lot of places isnt actually as widespread as one might think on the broadband level.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="iliatay"]so what? every family i know has atleast like 2 pc's in their house and atleast one of them being desktops. so i guess the only cost to account for with that logic is the graphics card...iliatay

1.) Your thread is about TV's being included in console prices. (Which is a no for obvious reasons only you can't seem to grasp.)

2.)You then say everyone you know has at least 1 desktop.

Going by that, everyone you know can hook their console up to their monitor, and if you knew that consoles could be hooked up to a monitor then you wouldn't have made such a thread.

[QUOTE="iliatay"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

razgriz_101

Really is that the beest you can come out with and what would you say if i was typing this from my iTouch or w/e but nah really im on my laptop cause its sitting beside my bed but its the only one in the house cause my parents are utter useless with tech they thought their HD telly was a waste cause they dont have it rigged up to HD until i did it lol.

The telly is a necessity on many levels its a source of entertainment and its free to an extent if you dont subscribe to cable you will still have a basic service through Freeview.The PC for a lot of things it really relies on the internet which when you look at a lot of places isnt actually as widespread as one might think on the broadband level.

Only a HDTV imo.. you need one of those to max out console games.

Espada12

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Only a HDTV imo.. you need one of those to max out console games.

killab2oo5

lol true :X

I never did like these double standards of purchasing systems. If everything is being included in a purchase, it should be like this:

For a PC, you need:

• The parts to put together
• A chair
• A chair mat
• A Monitor
• A desk
• Speakers
• Mouse
• Keyboard

For a console, you need:

• A console
• Extra game remotes
• An HDTV
• An Entertainment Center for HDTV
• 7.1 Surround Sound Speakers
• Couch with furnishing protection
• Recliner with furnishing protection
• Charging kits for remotes
• Power Surge Extension
• HDMI Cables

Because it's not like people do not own a TV or monitor to use for the system before they make the purchase.

[QUOTE="iliatay"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"] And you do know consoles can be hooked up to a PC monitor, right?killab2oo5

1.) Your thread is about TV's being included in console prices. (Which is a no for obvious reasons only you can't seem to grasp.)

2.)You then say everyone you know has at least 1 desktop.

Going by that, everyone you know can hook their console up to their monitor, and if you knew that consoles could be hooked up to a monitor then you wouldn't have made such a thread.

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

iliatay

i made this thread because i've been seeing alot of threads where prices of pcs were debunked because of the absence of a monitor. with the exact logic used by them, i used that to assess the price of a console.iliatay

I never did like these double standards of purchasing systems. If everything is being included in a purchase, it should be like this:

For a PC, you need:

• The parts to put together
• A chair
• A chair mat
• A Monitor
• A desk
• Speakers
• Mouse
• Keyboard

For a console, you need:

• A console
• Extra game remotes
• An HDTV
• An Entertainment Center for HDTV
• 7.1 Surround Sound Speakers
• Couch with furnishing protection
• Recliner with furnishing protection
• Charging kits for remotes
• Power Surge Extension
• HDMI Cables

Because it's not like people do not own a TV or monitor to use for the system before they make the purchase.

Valiant_Rebel

[QUOTE="iliatay"][QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

oldkingallant

What? what is this even based off of? If you have a monitor thats 10 years old you already have a display device that will output at higher resolutions then console games.

That was just flat out ****

[QUOTE="iliatay"]i made this thread because i've been seeing alot of threads where prices of pcs were debunked because of the absence of a monitor. with the exact logic used by them, i used that to assess the price of a console.killab2oo5

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

warmaster670

And 99.9% of people building a pc already have a monitor.

Except most people who pick up new PCs don't build them...they go out and buy them from a store. So PC fanboys talking about $200 super computers are already way out of touch with what the majority of PC owners do.

However, i admit that including the price of a monitor is sketchy. I recently BOUGHT a new computer and needed a new monitor. As did my parents and in-laws recently. We ALL had to get new monitors. Well, we didn't "have" to, but we all had old, small clunky monitors and wanted new flat screen monitors. However, from this point on if we buy a new PC, we probably won't need a monitor.

You don't buy a TV to play video games.

You don't buy a TV to play video games.

Silverbond

neither a monitor, but to be fair I did by my HD to play video game :X

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You don't buy a TV to play video games.

Espada12

neither a monitor, but to be fair I did by my HD to play video game :X

I've never seen anyone count monitors into the cost of PC gaming...

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="iliatay"] actually pcs are now more of a necessity than tvs, i mean, on what device are you typing this message? iliatay

Really is that the beest you can come out with and what would you say if i was typing this from my iTouch or w/e but nah really im on my laptop cause its sitting beside my bed but its the only one in the house cause my parents are utter useless with tech they thought their HD telly was a waste cause they dont have it rigged up to HD until i did it lol.

The telly is a necessity on many levels its a source of entertainment and its free to an extent if you dont subscribe to cable you will still have a basic service through Freeview.The PC for a lot of things it really relies on the internet which when you look at a lot of places isnt actually as widespread as one might think on the broadband level.

actually the person im talkin about has his own flat and rents it and hasnt been fortunateand is on the dole after he got made redundantand still has a PS2 and a 22" standard def telly lol neither does he have a PC he would rather just go down to the library when he wants to check facebook or bebo.Theres other things you need before a PCcause you can access them at places like your local library.

So.....your move hermit.

All these console fanboys keep saying that pc is expensive like $1500+ but then some sensible guy shows a build for like 500 bucks but then he gets penalized for not including a monitor. If monitors are accounted for a pc's price then shouldnt a tv be included in consoles price?

btw, the arguement that everyone has a tv already doesnt work because well obviously everyone also has a pc especially YOU since you are reading this.

iliatay

When I see an official Xbox360 HDTV Bundle, then the statement will be true.

no...cuz TV is independent.

You can watch tv progrms from cable or satellite.