Should/will Xbox update their controller to compete with DualSense?

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@hardwenzen said:
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We're seeing the same lems damage controlling their AA batteries. They really are desperate aren't they?

and the same cows pretending built in is somehow next gen while pretending having no options is better than have them. The argument is beyond pathetic

Does TESLA use AA batteries, dude? No. They're using rechargeable batteries, we're not in 1986. The day Tesla begins using AA batteries is the day i will believe in your "options". Microsoft is milking you lems with old tech.

Apple isn't using AA batteries neither is Tesla those guys know the tech

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I’d much rather have the option to use standard AA batteries in my controller. Would rather have fewer things with those internal batteries in storage as possible. Also it’s just so much easier using generic standard batteries later on down the road then trying to hunt down some of those internal battery replacements. Sorry if that rustles anyone’s jimmies here.

#SorryNotSorry 😅

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@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

We're seeing the same lems damage controlling their AA batteries. They really are desperate aren't they?

and the same cows pretending built in is somehow next gen while pretending having no options is better than have them. The argument is beyond pathetic

Does TESLA use AA batteries, dude? No. They're using rechargeable batteries, we're not in 1986. The day Tesla begins using AA batteries is the day i will believe in your "options". Microsoft is milking you lems with old tech.

Nice troll attempt.

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#54 hardwenzen
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@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

We're seeing the same lems damage controlling their AA batteries. They really are desperate aren't they?

and the same cows pretending built in is somehow next gen while pretending having no options is better than have them. The argument is beyond pathetic

Does TESLA use AA batteries, dude? No. They're using rechargeable batteries, we're not in 1986. The day Tesla begins using AA batteries is the day i will believe in your "options". Microsoft is milking you lems with old tech.

Nice troll attempt.

Keep denying facts. For now you're considering rechargeable batteries to be a negative, but sooner or later, when MS finally wakes up and catches up to its compeition, you will be praising their new batteries. As soon as this happens, your "its good to have options" will vanish for good.

So yea, you're just defending AA batteries because you're stuck with them since 2005 lmao, and it might take this whole generation before MS wakes up and notices how far behind Sony they truly are.

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#55 kingtito
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@hardwenzen said:

Keep denying facts. For now you're considering rechargeable batteries to be a negative, but sooner or later, when MS finally wakes up and catches up to its compeition, you will be praising their new batteries. As soon as this happens, your "its good to have options" will vanish for good.

So yea, you're just defending AA batteries because you're stuck with them since 2005 lmao, and it might take this whole generation before MS wakes up and notices how far behind Sony they truly are.

Hey you got caught trolling. You should leave well enough alone. You don't have a leg to stand on and your example LOLOLOLOLOL that's how I know you're trolling.

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#56 hardwenzen
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@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

Keep denying facts. For now you're considering rechargeable batteries to be a negative, but sooner or later, when MS finally wakes up and catches up to its compeition, you will be praising their new batteries. As soon as this happens, your "its good to have options" will vanish for good.

So yea, you're just defending AA batteries because you're stuck with them since 2005 lmao, and it might take this whole generation before MS wakes up and notices how far behind Sony they truly are.

Hey you got caught trolling. You should leave well enough alone. You don't have a leg to stand on and your example LOLOLOLOLOL that's how I know you're trolling.

Keeps denying facts again and again.

On a side note, i was just reading a review of a mouse i am looking to buy. And gues what i just saw? One of the cons is: "AA batteries have no place in a high-end gaming mouse". That's right, we're not in 1999 anymore. AA betteries have no place in a controller than is included with a $500USD item.

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@hardwenzen said:

Keeps denying facts again and again.

On a side note, i was just reading a review of a mouse i am looking to buy. And gues what i just saw? One of the cons is: "AA batteries have no place in a high-end gaming mouse". That's right, we're not in 1999 anymore. AA betteries have no place in a controller than is included with a $500USD item.

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

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@hardwenzen: excellent rebuttal, laying the smackdown as usual.

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#59 Pedro
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Sony fannies still talking about AA batteries?😂🤣

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@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

Keeps denying facts again and again.

On a side note, i was just reading a review of a mouse i am looking to buy. And gues what i just saw? One of the cons is: "AA batteries have no place in a high-end gaming mouse". That's right, we're not in 1999 anymore. AA betteries have no place in a controller than is included with a $500USD item.

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

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@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

Keeps denying facts again and again.

On a side note, i was just reading a review of a mouse i am looking to buy. And gues what i just saw? One of the cons is: "AA batteries have no place in a high-end gaming mouse". That's right, we're not in 1999 anymore. AA betteries have no place in a controller than is included with a $500USD item.

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

What about AAA batteries?

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#62 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

The last fool to ride the AA batteries mantra left the forum because of perpetual failed arguments. I am glad to see you are following in his footsteps. 😂

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#63 hardwenzen
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@gym_lion said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

Keeps denying facts again and again.

On a side note, i was just reading a review of a mouse i am looking to buy. And gues what i just saw? One of the cons is: "AA batteries have no place in a high-end gaming mouse". That's right, we're not in 1999 anymore. AA betteries have no place in a controller than is included with a $500USD item.

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

What about AAA batteries?

Well, let me answer your question with a question. Does Tesla use AAA batteries? I think you now know the answer to your question.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

The last fool to ride the AA batteries mantra left the forum because of perpetual failed arguments. I am glad to see you are following in his footsteps. 😂

Tormy is recharging his batteries. He will be back.

See? Even Tormy has rechargeable batteries and not the outdated AA ones.

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#65 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Tormy is recharging his batteries. He will be back.

See? Even Tormy has rechargeable batteries and not the outdated AA ones.

What makes AA batteries outdated?

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#66  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

What about AAA batteries?

Well, let me answer your question with a question. Does Tesla use AAA batteries? I think you now know the answer to your question.

Don't argue with them people will use there battery Tesla for 20-30 years and these guys will say they wish they had aa batteries instead for when the tesla battery dies out or whatever you can't reason with these people.

Guys you can't use AA forever man there gonna die out soon get lithium battery lioke apple an tesla an stuff

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#67 kingtito
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@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

Keeps denying facts again and again.

On a side note, i was just reading a review of a mouse i am looking to buy. And gues what i just saw? One of the cons is: "AA batteries have no place in a high-end gaming mouse". That's right, we're not in 1999 anymore. AA betteries have no place in a controller than is included with a $500USD item.

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

Wasn't aware 60-$70 is considered expensive.

This very thread debunks that statement. As I said cows and facts == oxymoron

What's even more sad is I don't own the XSX but I do own a PS5. Still prefer the ol AA batteries be it Eneloops or regular. I know you cows hate options. It's a good thing you're loyal to a piece plastic with a PS logo on it.. they too hate options.

You got me.....your trolling effort is worthy of a B.

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#68 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Tormy is recharging his batteries. He will be back.

See? Even Tormy has rechargeable batteries and not the outdated AA ones.

What makes AA batteries outdated?

1- Tesla doesn't use them.
2- Apple doesn't use them.
3- They're being sold for $1 in a dollar store.
4- I used them in the 90's.


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@ProtossRushX said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:

Not sure what facts you're talking about but your trolling attempt is cute.

BTW cows and facts is an oxymoron

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

What about AAA batteries?

Well, let me answer your question with a question. Does Tesla use AAA batteries? I think you now know the answer to your question.

Don't argue with them people will use there battery Tesla for 20-30 years and these guys will say they wish they had aa batteries instead for when the tesla battery dies out or whatever you can't reason with these people.

Guys you can't use AA forever man there gonna die out soon get lithium battery lioke apple an tesla an stuff

You can get lithium AA batteries.

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@hardwenzen said:

1- Tesla doesn't use them.

2- Apple doesn't use them.

3- They're being sold for $1 in a dollar store.

4- I used them in the 90's.

I will give you another chance. Please state what makes AA batteries outdated?

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@gym_lion said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@hardwenzen said:

After all this time and you still don't get it? AA batteries has no place in expensive equipment. It belongs to a Dollar store. Its outdated. Nobody wants it. You refuse to accept this because you're well aware of the fact that you're stuck with it for the next 10 years (or more), and that's just sad. When will you lems stop pretending to love all the negatives about your Lord Microsoft? Enough is enough.

What about AAA batteries?

Well, let me answer your question with a question. Does Tesla use AAA batteries? I think you now know the answer to your question.

Don't argue with them people will use there battery Tesla for 20-30 years and these guys will say they wish they had aa batteries instead for when the tesla battery dies out or whatever you can't reason with these people.

Guys you can't use AA forever man there gonna die out soon get lithium battery lioke apple an tesla an stuff

You can get lithium AA batteries.

Can you use AA batteries to charge your smartphone / tesla / ipad / macbook pro / surface book 3 / ps4 controller ps5 controller ps3 controller / xbox elite version 2 controller / switch / Switch lite? Yes or no?

Everything else except xbox one and x-series controllers are using AA's still every one else has gone a diff route there going diff routes

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#72 Pedro
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@gym_lion said:

You can get lithium AA batteries.

Don't ruin it. 😋

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#73 Epak_
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Yes, they should have updated the controller somehow, does it even have rumble triggers anymore? Returnal makes the best use of dual sense to date. RE8 uses it alright, I don't know what the random rattle is supposed to be though.

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Can you use AA batteries to charge your smartphone / tesla / ipad / macbook pro / surface book 3 / ps4 controller ps5 controller ps3 controller / xbox elite version 2 controller / switch / Switch lite? Yes or no?

Everything else except xbox one and x-series controllers are using AA's still every one else has gone a diff route there going diff routes

Can you use your smartphone battery to power you macbook pro/ surface book 3?

Can you use your ipad battery to power your DualSense?

We got you all spinning in a new kind of stupid. 😂🤣

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@ProtossRushX said:
@gym_lion said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:

What about AAA batteries?

Well, let me answer your question with a question. Does Tesla use AAA batteries? I think you now know the answer to your question.

Don't argue with them people will use there battery Tesla for 20-30 years and these guys will say they wish they had aa batteries instead for when the tesla battery dies out or whatever you can't reason with these people.

Guys you can't use AA forever man there gonna die out soon get lithium battery lioke apple an tesla an stuff

You can get lithium AA batteries.

Can you use AA batteries to charge your smartphone / tesla / ipad / macbook pro / surface book 3 / ps4 controller ps5 controller ps3 controller / xbox elite version 2 controller / switch / Switch lite? Yes or no?

Everything else except xbox one and x-series controllers are using AA's still every one else has gone a diff route there going diff routes

Why would I want to use AA batteries to charge my smartphone etc...

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

1- Tesla doesn't use them.

2- Apple doesn't use them.

3- They're being sold for $1 in a dollar store.

4- I used them in the 90's.

I will give you another chance. Please state what makes AA batteries outdated?

Give that chance to somebody else. I gave you credible information. Its your duty to accept it or not.

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#77  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@Pedro said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Can you use AA batteries to charge your smartphone / tesla / ipad / macbook pro / surface book 3 / ps4 controller ps5 controller ps3 controller / xbox elite version 2 controller / switch / Switch lite? Yes or no?

Everything else except xbox one and x-series controllers are using AA's still every one else has gone a diff route there going diff routes

Can you use your smartphone battery to power you macbook pro/ surface book 3?

Can you use your ipad battery to power your DualSense?

We got you all spinning in a new kind of stupid. 😂🤣

They all use Rechargeable internal batteries that you recharge by plugging them in. They don't use AA batteries pedro stop this.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

The PS5 controller is undoubtedly one of the coolest things about the PS5 so far. I've been playing Resident Evil 8 (just beat Lady Dimitrescu!) and you can feel the difference in the guns from using the adaptive triggers. You can't spam the shotgun, when you pull the trigger you have to let go to use it again. And the triggers make you feel that to great effect. It feels weighty as if you were using the real thing. Same idea with the sniper rifle. When you aim, you can feel the pull from the trigger. It's great! There are other nice touches here and there like the use of the light to display the color of your health. And I've seen features like this used by other games as well. In Returnal, there's good use of the controller mic. You can hear your gun as it recharges. Overall, it seems like the DualSense is a big hit and I can see developers continuing to use the features. So that begs the qustion..Should/will Xbox update their controller to compete with DualSense? It seems like they played it too safe this gen. Thoughts, SW? Do you agree?

So how does MS make a controller that is already better than the competition better?

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@hardwenzen said:

Give that chance to somebody else. I gave you credible information. Its your duty to accept it or not.

I waiting for the credible information. Please state what makes AA batteries outdated?😎

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@ProtossRushX said:

They all use Rechargeable internal batteries that you recharge by plugging them in. They don't use AA batteries pedro stop this.

Answer the question. 🤭

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Give that chance to somebody else. I gave you credible information. Its your duty to accept it or not.

I waiting for the credible information. Please state what makes AA batteries outdated?😎

Gave you 4. If you don't believe any of them, then you're as delusional as kingtito and especially x_hedon

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@gym_lion said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@gym_lion said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hardwenzen said:

Well, let me answer your question with a question. Does Tesla use AAA batteries? I think you now know the answer to your question.

Don't argue with them people will use there battery Tesla for 20-30 years and these guys will say they wish they had aa batteries instead for when the tesla battery dies out or whatever you can't reason with these people.

Guys you can't use AA forever man there gonna die out soon get lithium battery lioke apple an tesla an stuff

You can get lithium AA batteries.

Can you use AA batteries to charge your smartphone / tesla / ipad / macbook pro / surface book 3 / ps4 controller ps5 controller ps3 controller / xbox elite version 2 controller / switch / Switch lite? Yes or no?

Everything else except xbox one and x-series controllers are using AA's still every one else has gone a diff route there going diff routes

Why would I want to use AA batteries to charge my smartphone etc...

Why wouldn't you want AA batteries in your smart phone? Your complaining about not getting AA batteries in your controller wouldn't you also want to have access AA batteries for your smart phone in case the battery dies over time you and @R4gn4r0k and @Pedro said you lvoe options and your internal only batteries die all the time why not buy smart phones that use AA's still if you love having options? They still exist out there those motoral razers from the 2000's an stuff

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#84 Pedro
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@ProtossRushX said:

Why wouldn't you want AA batteries in your smart phone? Your complaining about not getting AA batteries in your controller wouldn't you also want to have access AA batteries for your smart phone in case the battery dies over time you and @R4gn4r0k and @Pedro said you lvoe options and your internal only batteries die all the time why not buy smart phones that use AA's still if you love having options? They still exist out there those motoral razers from the 2000's an stuff

Can you use your smartphone battery to power you macbook pro/ surface book 3?

Can you use your ipad battery to power your DualSense?

I am waiting for your answer. 🤭

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#85 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Gave you 4. If you don't believe any of them, then you're as delusional as kingtito and especially x_hedon

You stated nothing about the batteries . Please state what makes AA batteries outdated?😎

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@Pedro said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Why wouldn't you want AA batteries in your smart phone? Your complaining about not getting AA batteries in your controller wouldn't you also want to have access AA batteries for your smart phone in case the battery dies over time you and @R4gn4r0k and @Pedro said you lvoe options and your internal only batteries die all the time why not buy smart phones that use AA's still if you love having options? They still exist out there those motoral razers from the 2000's an stuff

Can you use your smartphone battery to power you macbook pro/ surface book 3?

Can you use your ipad battery to power your DualSense?

I am waiting for your answer. 🤭

I got no idea man I never do that stuff I just plug my stuff into outlets for power to recharge my controllers into my console to recharge I don't play for like 30 hours in a row and I use a really long cord so it goes all over my room if its not powered up all the way

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@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kingtito said:
@hardwenzen said:

We're seeing the same lems damage controlling their AA batteries. They really are desperate aren't they?

and the same cows pretending built in is somehow next gen while pretending having no options is better than have them. The argument is beyond pathetic

Does TESLA use AA batteries, dude? No. They're using rechargeable batteries, we're not in 1986. The day Tesla begins using AA batteries is the day i will believe in your "options". Microsoft is milking you lems with old tech.

Nice troll attempt.

Keep denying facts. For now you're considering rechargeable batteries to be a negative, but sooner or later, when MS finally wakes up and catches up to its compeition, you will be praising their new batteries. As soon as this happens, your "its good to have options" will vanish for good.

So yea, you're just defending AA batteries because you're stuck with them since 2005 lmao, and it might take this whole generation before MS wakes up and notices how far behind Sony they truly are.

The worst thing about my Elite 2 controller, the built in battery. I would rather be able to swap them out when the charge is low instead of plug it in or put it on the charger and wait. I wish we had more options like they give us with the Series X controller they make.

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@ProtossRushX said:

I got no idea man I never do that stuff I just plug my stuff into outlets for power to recharge my controllers into my console to recharge I don't play for like 30 hours in a row and I use a really long cord so it goes all over my room if its not powered up all the way

So the answer is no. Thanks for failing at your own game. 😂🤣

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One of the attractive points of PS5. Every gen since NES I looked forward to next gen controllers. Never really cared too much about the consoles look. Xbox could have kept their controller design the same and add in a few more things. Maybe a small LCD touch screen or something cool within reason. Seems like they went with the easiest approach this gen. I'm sure there will be a thousand different colors though, if you're willing to pay for it. Guess they also wanted there to be a drastic difference in quality between the consoles base controller and their elite one. No reason a $60 controller can't also include an internal battery like their $200+ one. But if they did include it, there would be less reason to get an elite one. And they wouldn't be able to charge for their battery packs. So I understand why. The Apple philosophy.

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@joshrmeyer said:

One of the attractive points of PS5. Every gen since NES I looked forward to next gen controllers. Never really cared too much about the consoles look. Xbox could have kept their controller design the same and add in a few more things. Maybe a small LCD touch screen or something cool within reason. Seems like they went with the easiest approach this gen. I'm sure there will be a thousand different colors though, if you're willing to pay for it. Guess they also wanted there to be a drastic difference in quality between the consoles base controller and their elite one. No reason a $60 controller can't also include an internal battery like their $200+ one. But if they did include it, there would be less reason to get an elite one. And they wouldn't be able to charge for their battery packs. So I understand why. The Apple philosophy.

You know you can re-use the battery packs from older controllers and batteries. You can also purchase battery packs that are not made by MS. In fact most of the battery packs available are not MS made, so the Apple comparison seems rather strained.

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#91 JoshRMeyer
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@kingtito: Look, simple question: Why doesn't their $200+ controller use AA batteries if that's what gamers consider to be better? Premium devices use internal batteries. It's been that way for a while now. Options can be a good thing, but not when it's gonna cost me more(buying more batteries or a recharge pack) for an inferior product. Simple solution would be for MS to include the recharge pack with each controller. Then you'd still have that option of using AA batteries if you wanted to (not sure why anyone would want to.. if battery goes dead while playing a game, plug the cord in. Or switch to another controller. I can't think of many scenarios at all where AAs would benefit anyone besides MS pocket).

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Annoyed that neither Sony or Ms included paddles one the new controllers

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@kingtito: Look, simple question: Why doesn't their $200+ controller use AA batteries if that's what gamers consider to be better? Premium devices use internal batteries. It's been that way for a while now. Options can be a good thing, but not when it's gonna cost me more(buying more batteries or a recharge pack) for an inferior product. Simple solution would be for MS to include the recharge pack with each controller. Then you'd still have that option of using AA batteries if you wanted to (not sure why anyone would want to.. if battery goes dead while playing a game, plug the cord in. Or switch to another controller. I can't think of many scenarios at all where AAs would benefit anyone besides MS pocket).

Look I don't really care why since I don't own an elite controller but just because they added it in there $200 controller doesn't mean it's the best option for everyone.

The cost of replacing a controller once the battery dies isn't to much? Or buying a 2nd controller because your built in battery dies before you're done playing? Or you forgot to charge your controller and you haven't played in a little while so your controller is almost dead when you do get a chance to play? Sorry bud but my eneloop batteries didn't cost much, last a long time on a single charge and I can use them for just as long as the built in ones if not longer since I don't have to charge them as often.

Not really a simple solution since cows will complain about that as well. The only ones that really have a problem with this are cows.

Because nothing says "next gen gaming" by having a cord on your controller like it's the 90s.

So spend $70 on a new controller to use in case the battery in your 1st dies while playing?????? Not very cost effective now is it?

Kind of like having a built in battery that last 4-5 hours thereby forcing it's customers to purchase a $70 2nd controller. What were you saying pot?

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@kingtito said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@kingtito: Look, simple question: Why doesn't their $200+ controller use AA batteries if that's what gamers consider to be better? Premium devices use internal batteries. It's been that way for a while now. Options can be a good thing, but not when it's gonna cost me more(buying more batteries or a recharge pack) for an inferior product. Simple solution would be for MS to include the recharge pack with each controller. Then you'd still have that option of using AA batteries if you wanted to (not sure why anyone would want to.. if battery goes dead while playing a game, plug the cord in. Or switch to another controller. I can't think of many scenarios at all where AAs would benefit anyone besides MS pocket).

Look I don't really care why since I don't own an elite controller but just because they added it in there $200 controller doesn't mean it's the best option for everyone.

The cost of replacing a controller once the battery dies isn't to much? Or buying a 2nd controller because your built in battery dies before you're done playing? Or you forgot to charge your controller and you haven't played in a little while so your controller is almost dead when you do get a chance to play? Sorry bud but my eneloop batteries didn't cost much, last a long time on a single charge and I can use them for just as long as the built in ones if not longer since I don't have to charge them as often.

Not really a simple solution since cows will complain about that as well. The only ones that really have a problem with this are cows.

Because nothing says "next gen gaming" by having a cord on your controller like it's the 90s.

So spend $70 on a new controller to use in case the battery in your 1st dies while playing?????? Not very cost effective now is it?

Kind of like having a built in battery that last 4-5 hours thereby forcing it's customers to purchase a $70 2nd controller. What were you saying pot?

Bro nobody's controller is dying due to internal batteries mine isn't even getting less time. I've been over to hundreds of homes not seen a single house that still has AA battery rechargers in their home. Nobody uses envelops nobody has AA battery rechargeables if anything they buy some duracels and be at peace with that for a smoke detector or whatver and those usually use AAA or circle batteries almost nobody uses double aa's and waste space recharging them up like you say you do.

Good for you but nobody does that anymore this isn't the 90's. How much did your 4 enelops cost you need to keep 2 fresh 2 in charger and who knows what else. I don't know a single person who does that kingtito except you and 2 other kids on system wars.

I like to buy something and be able to use it. PS5 controller comes with recharge cable plug it in when your low and keep playing I don't need a second controller ever and once it charges up go wireless again etc. It just works for me I don't need a second controller i don't need batteries and i dont need arecharge kit and i certainly don't want to mess with aa rechargeables i want things to work 100% out of the box and recharge itself with power not something else I have to buy.

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@kingtito: Most people have at least one other controller, but you're missing the point. My point was, that it's rare to have a controller die mid-game and not have some kind of back up solution. You have 3 options in your case.. 1. You pop open the back and swap out AA batteries. 2. You plug the cord in. 3. You switch to an unused controller. In my case I always have a second controller plugged in, so I swap controllers if that were to happen(It doesn't because I plug my controller in after playing). Or I simply use the 10 ft charging cord I got for $4 to use it plugged in. But that's only in emergencies. If you prefer using AA batteries still, I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong. I was a really big fan of Samsung back when you could remove the battery from the phone. Now that the newer phones don't have that option, I don't even understand why I was a fan. I had a backup battery but never needed to use it. Now if I go hiking or something, I bring a portable recharger. But that's very rare, and just for emergencies. That's actually another option you could do if your controller dies and your cord isn't long enough. Plenty of options out there, but I'll never go back to AA batteries. If MS thought gamers really wanted to keep using AA batteries in their controller, they'd of kept that option on their premium model. But hey, you're happy, MS is happy with their profit, so good for both of you lol.

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I don't even use batteries for my Xbox controller when I play on PC. I just plug it in.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@kingtito said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@kingtito: Look, simple question: Why doesn't their $200+ controller use AA batteries if that's what gamers consider to be better? Premium devices use internal batteries. It's been that way for a while now. Options can be a good thing, but not when it's gonna cost me more(buying more batteries or a recharge pack) for an inferior product. Simple solution would be for MS to include the recharge pack with each controller. Then you'd still have that option of using AA batteries if you wanted to (not sure why anyone would want to.. if battery goes dead while playing a game, plug the cord in. Or switch to another controller. I can't think of many scenarios at all where AAs would benefit anyone besides MS pocket).

Look I don't really care why since I don't own an elite controller but just because they added it in there $200 controller doesn't mean it's the best option for everyone.

The cost of replacing a controller once the battery dies isn't to much? Or buying a 2nd controller because your built in battery dies before you're done playing? Or you forgot to charge your controller and you haven't played in a little while so your controller is almost dead when you do get a chance to play? Sorry bud but my eneloop batteries didn't cost much, last a long time on a single charge and I can use them for just as long as the built in ones if not longer since I don't have to charge them as often.

Not really a simple solution since cows will complain about that as well. The only ones that really have a problem with this are cows.

Because nothing says "next gen gaming" by having a cord on your controller like it's the 90s.

So spend $70 on a new controller to use in case the battery in your 1st dies while playing?????? Not very cost effective now is it?

Kind of like having a built in battery that last 4-5 hours thereby forcing it's customers to purchase a $70 2nd controller. What were you saying pot?

Bro nobody's controller is dying due to internal batteries mine isn't even getting less time. I've been over to hundreds of homes not seen a single house that still has AA battery rechargers in their home. Nobody uses envelops nobody has AA battery rechargeables if anything they buy some duracels and be at peace with that for a smoke detector or whatver and those usually use AAA or circle batteries almost nobody uses double aa's and waste space recharging them up like you say you do.

Good for you but nobody does that anymore this isn't the 90's. How much did your 4 enelops cost you need to keep 2 fresh 2 in charger and who knows what else. I don't know a single person who does that kingtito except you and 2 other kids on system wars.

I like to buy something and be able to use it. PS5 controller comes with recharge cable plug it in when your low and keep playing I don't need a second controller ever and once it charges up go wireless again etc. It just works for me I don't need a second controller i don't need batteries and i dont need arecharge kit and i certainly don't want to mess with aa rechargeables i want things to work 100% out of the box and recharge itself with power not something else I have to buy.

What batteries does your TV remote take?

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@gym_lion: My roku remote does my tv and it takes AAs that I change out every few years. Not exactly a big deal and hardly comparable to batteries you change out on a weekly basis(obviously depends on use).

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@joshrmeyer said:

@gym_lion: My roku remote does my tv and it takes AAs that I change out every few years. Not exactly a big deal and hardly comparable to batteries you change out on a weekly basis(obviously depends on use).

None of this is a big deal.

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@sealionact: Lems think they're so cool complaining about the DS stick layout. I prefer Playstation but can comfortably use both. Find some other talking points. Both are usable for most games. If everyone had the preference you're trying to pass off as fact, PS4 wouldn't have smoked Xbox One last gen.