Should/will Xbox update their controller to compete with DualSense?

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#151 Pedro
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@joshrmeyer said:

@Pedro: Yeah I know. MS wised up and realized a $200+ controller shouldn't use the same batteries as a tv remote. Kudos to them, but now they need to also do that with their $60 ones. Sony and Nintendo and Google are already doing this. MS are making a ton on controllers by cheaping out and Lems are falling for it.

So, you knew were wrong. Gotcha.

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#152 Eoten
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@Pedro: Yeah I know. MS wised up and realized a $200+ controller shouldn't use the same batteries as a tv remote. Kudos to them, but now they need to also do that with their $60 ones. Sony and Nintendo and Google are already doing this. MS are making a ton on controllers by cheaping out and Lems are falling for it.

Same batteries as a TV remote? Do you mean AA batteries which happen to be the most commonly used battery everywhere in the world? Not sure what you're trying to get at with "same batteries as a TV remote."

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#153 JoshRMeyer
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@eoten: I change my tv remote batteries probably every other year. Not a big deal to have to get a few batteries from store. I play PS about 6 hours a day right now. No way would I want to change batteries every week in my PS controller. But my other point was, yes AA batteries are common and used a lot back in the 80's, but there's much better batteries now and every game company has moved on to them except MS. And I'll be fair and say I do wish Sony put a bigger battery in their controller, but it usually last a full gaming session on one charge so not too big of a deal. And I doubt most gamers play for 6 hours straight like I do.

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#154  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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@Pedro: I'm sorry, I forgot I have to spell everything out perfectly and paint you a picture too. Ok I should have clarified that I'm referring to the elite 2 controller. But you knew that and so did everyone else on here.

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#155 dabear
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@joshrmeyer said:

@dabear: That's like asking what happens if your ipad battery goes bad, which cost about 10 times as much... or your phone battery. Yeah that'd suck, but never happens. PS4 controllers have a 1 year warranty, unlike Xboxs crappy 90 day warranty. In the very worst case scenario, if you own a screwdriver, a replacement battery is $10 on Amazon. Only replaced batteries in my PS3 controllers, but wasn't because I had to, just wanted bigger batteries in there.

Yeah, but they do go bad. As I have said before, I was getting about 2-3 years out of a cell phone battery before it's toast until the S20 came out.

I really didn't know what you are supposed to do with a PS4/5 controller with a bad battery - it was actually an honest question. I had no idea it was such a hot topic...

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#156 Pedro
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@joshrmeyer said:

@Pedro: I'm sorry, I forgot I have to spell everything out perfectly and paint you a picture too. Ok I should have clarified that I'm referring to the elite 2 controller. But you knew that and so did everyone else on here.

It is OK to be wrong. Just don't get annoyed when called out...too late.😂

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#157 Archangel3371  Online
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When you’re getting this worked up over others having options to power their game controllers then I think that it’s time to start re-evaluating your priorities in life. 😅

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#158 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Archangel3371 said:

When you’re getting this worked up over others having options to power their game controllers then I think that it’s time to start re-evaluating your priorities in life. 😅

You're confusing "worked up" with common sense. If you enjoy spending more money on AA batteries per year than what your 1080p TV is worth than all the power to you, bud.

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#159 Gym_Lion
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@Archangel3371 said:

When you’re getting this worked up over others having options to power their game controllers then I think that it’s time to start re-evaluating your priorities in life. 😅

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

You're confusing "worked up" with common sense. If you enjoy spending more money on AA batteries per year than what your 1080p TV is worth than all the power to you, bud.

I'm a big baller and can afford AA batteries so it doesn't bother me. £2.99 is chump change to me.

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#160 Pedro
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You're confusing "worked up" with common sense. If you enjoy spending more money on AA batteries per year than what your 1080p TV is worth than all the power to you, bud.

Stimulus Check PC Gamer, you should be last to talk about money. 😂

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#161 kingtito
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@joshrmeyer said:

@kingtito: Nah, Sony makes premium products, and fortunately for my wallet I only have to spend $45-$60 on a controller and not $200. Don't stoop to MS level of thinking. Demand better from them.

Sorry cow but no way in hell is a $70 dollar controller considered premium.

Oh you mean giving consumers options? Not forcing a built in battery that last a whopping 4-5 hours. Not forcing consumers to purchase a 2nd controller because their primary doesn't long enough for those long marathon gaming sessions. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer having options

Now you can stop pretending that you actually care what battery option MS gives or that your opinion isn't extremely biased because well, you're a cow.

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#162  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

You're confusing "worked up" with common sense. If you enjoy spending more money on AA batteries per year than what your 1080p TV is worth than all the power to you, bud.

Stimulus Check PC Gamer, you should be last to talk about money. 😂

Awww, it's the broke lemming who cries daily about how he can't afford $70 games back to project his own financial situation onto others. So cute.

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#163 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Awww, it's the broke lemming who cries daily about how he can't afford $70 games back to project his own financial situation onto others. So cute.

Ok Stimulus Check PC Gamer. 🤭

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#164 NathanDrakeSwag
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@kingtito said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@kingtito: Nah, Sony makes premium products, and fortunately for my wallet I only have to spend $45-$60 on a controller and not $200. Don't stoop to MS level of thinking. Demand better from them.

Sorry cow but no way in hell is a $70 dollar controller considered premium.

Oh you mean giving consumers options? Not forcing a built in battery that last a whopping 4-5 hours. Not forcing consumers to purchase a 2nd controller because their primary doesn't long enough for those long marathon gaming sessions. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer having options

Now you can stop pretending that you actually care what battery option MS gives or that your opinion isn't extremely biased because well, you're a cow.

Here's what $180 gets you from Microsoft

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-11-class-action-lawsuit-against-microsoft-for-alleged-xbox-one-controller-stick-drift-has-been-updated-to-include-the-elite-series-2

Great "premium" product there lol. Since the 360 RROD it has been obvious that Microsoft's goal with Xbox is to make faulty hardware to make their money from rebuyers.

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#165 Archangel3371  Online
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Unfortunately I don’t have the benefit of getting stimulus checks chief so I have to go with rechargeable batteries myself. Get back to doing them chores for Big Daddy Phil there monkey so you can keep up your Game Pass subscription. 🤣🤣🤣

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#166 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Awww, it's the broke lemming who cries daily about how he can't afford $70 games back to project his own financial situation onto others. So cute.

Ok Stimulus Check PC Gamer. 🤭

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#167 kingtito
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@NathanDrakeSwag: So you agree $70 controllers aren't premium. Thanks for proving my point clown

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@Archangel3371 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: Unfortunately I don’t have the benefit of getting stimulus checks chief so I have to go with rechargeable batteries myself. Get back to doing them chores for Big Daddy Phil there monkey so you can keep up your Game Pass subscription. 🤣🤣🤣

What brand do you use and can you link me your recharger station for AA batteries in your home I never seen one in my whole life.

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#169 Archangel3371  Online
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@ProtossRushX: Why does any of that matter? Link you to my recharger station? WTF is wrong you bro? Seek some help.

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#170  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@Archangel3371: I've just never seen a AA battery recharger before in my life even in the 90's i never seen them are they big are they small I can't deal with em personally you can tho thats why I was curious about them. AA batteries were huge in the 90's but i still just bought duracels and energizers...never mess with those things in my life.

Plus you said you use the Play and charge kit from microsoft why are you using AA's if you have that thing? Your mixing things up and going against the grain pal.

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#171 Gym_Lion
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@Archangel3371: I've just never seen a AA battery recharger before in my life even in the 90's i never seen them are they big are they small I can't deal with em personally you can tho thats why I was curious about them. AA batteries were huge in the 90's but i still just bought duracels and energizers...never mess with those things in my life.

AA batteries have always been the same size.

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#172 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@gym_lion said:
@ProtossRushX said:

@Archangel3371: I've just never seen a AA battery recharger before in my life even in the 90's i never seen them are they big are they small I can't deal with em personally you can tho thats why I was curious about them. AA batteries were huge in the 90's but i still just bought duracels and energizers...never mess with those things in my life.

AA batteries have always been the same size.

I'm not talking about size of AA batteries I'm talking about the recharger for them never seen what they look like before....and don't plan to as I don't use AA batteries anymore.

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#173  Edited By Archangel3371  Online
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@ProtossRushX: GTFOH with you chin dribbling nonsense. 😅

As for the plug and play pack I was using it ran its course a little while ago and I picked up some rechargeable batteries to replace it. Is that to your satisfaction there Karen or would you like to speak to the manager? 😅

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#174 Nonstop-Madness
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The Xbox controllers could use some haptic rumble but, they don't really need a speaker or adaptive triggers.

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#175 shellcase86
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

The Xbox controllers could use some haptic rumble but, they don't really need a speaker or adaptive triggers.

Agreed, but I do feel a mic would be nice. Inclusive.

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#176 Eoten
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For all the money companies spend on useless features that never get implemented much outside of first party, like adaptive triggers, trigger rumble, or touchpads, they should put that towards R&Ding some analog sticks that are trash and drift in a year. Dreamcast sticks don't drift, they had it figured out over 20 years ago.

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#177 SolidGame_basic
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@eoten said:

For all the money companies spend on useless features that never get implemented much outside of first party, like adaptive triggers, trigger rumble, or touchpads, they should put that towards R&Ding some analog sticks that are trash and drift in a year. Dreamcast sticks don't drift, they had it figured out over 20 years ago.

Fanboy translation = I'm jelly of the DualSense

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#178 kingtito
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@SolidGame_basic: That's rich coming from one of the biggest cows on the forums.

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#179  Edited By hardwenzen
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kingtito has been damage controlling this thread and all other threads related to MS and its AA batteries. Is this your work, dude?

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#180 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

kingtito has been damage controlling this thread and all other threads related to MS and its AA batteries. Is this your work, dude?

And you have been stalking him. 😂

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#181 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

kingtito has been damage controlling this thread and all other threads related to MS and its AA batteries. Is this your work, dude?

And you have been stalking him. 😂

I lost IP. I need a replacement.

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#182 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

I lost IP. I need a replacement.

Just type in ipconfig /renew in the command prompt. 😎

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#183 kingtito
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@hardwenzen said:

kingtito has been damage controlling this thread and all other threads related to MS and its AA batteries. Is this your work, dude?

Making fun of cows is my form of entertainment at least while I'm working. I'm never disappointed because clowns will be clowns

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#184 xhawk27
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Xbox One had impulse triggers and devs didn’t give a sh#t now that Sony is doing this they are all out on it . Fk you devs.

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#185 mazuiface
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@hardwenzen said:

kingtito has been damage controlling this thread and all other threads related to MS and its AA batteries. Is this your work, dude?

There is a such thing as the Xbox Ambassador program, where MS literally pays you to be a fanboy online.

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#186 hardwenzen
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@mazuiface said:
@hardwenzen said:

kingtito has been damage controlling this thread and all other threads related to MS and its AA batteries. Is this your work, dude?

There is a such thing as the Xbox Ambassador program, where MS literally pays you to be a fanboy online.

yea @x_hedon and @sealionact been in it for almost a decade. i've heard they're making $20 a day just spamming forums and damage control anything and everything related to Xbox/Microsoft.

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#187 mazuiface
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yea @x_hedon and @sealionact been in it for almost a decade. i've heard they're making $20 a day just spamming forums and damage control anything and everything related to Xbox/Microsoft.

Hey I didn't say that anyone was getting paid for sure, but uhh I'm sure you have insider knowledge about kvally and sealionact

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#188 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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This is already in motion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.videogameschronicle.com/news/microsoft-asks-xbox-owners-if-they-would-like-ps5-dualsense-features-on-series-x-s-controllers/amp/

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@hardwenzen: Not as much as Sony fannies. They trigger the best. 😂

That's for sure. Especially softwenzen. He is way under paid for all the shilling he does for Cerny. I am guessing he is busy in Cerny's red room, daily.

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#190 hardwenzen
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@x_hedon said:
@Pedro said:

@hardwenzen: Not as much as Sony fannies. They trigger the best. 😂

That's for sure. Especially softwenzen. He is way under paid for all the shilling he does for Cerny. I am guessing he is busy in Cerny's red room, daily.

Stop making shit up. Its frustrating to have a conversation with such a liar.

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@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@Pedro said:

@hardwenzen: Not as much as Sony fannies. They trigger the best. 😂

That's for sure. Especially softwenzen. He is way under paid for all the shilling he does for Cerny. I am guessing he is busy in Cerny's red room, daily.

Stop making shit up. Its frustrating to have a conversation with such a liar.

Oh, we know.....we know. But it's entertaining, so we let you slide. Now be a good little cow. Cerny needs his toe jam cleaned out.

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#192  Edited By Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Stop making shit up. Its frustrating to have a conversation with such a liar.

Which one?😎

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#193 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Stop making shit up. Its frustrating to have a conversation with such a liar.

Which one?😎

this digusting x_hedon thing. he is clearly not a manticore, but a hardcore lem that does nothing else but annoy me and my cows.

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#194 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Yeah, I use those “20 bucks” to buy AA batteries 😒.

Of course getting all that money from ms means I can buy whichever energy option I want for my controller….you’re stuck with the one option. 😘

Rent free bud.

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@ProtossRushX: G’wan….tell us again the story about your 15 year old MacBook Air’s battery being as good as new 😂😂😂😂

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#196 JoshRMeyer
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@kingtito: You sound mad. I'm only trying to help you Lems see the light. Honest question though: Do you change your batteries out after each gaming session? The reason I ask is because I know my battery is always fully charged when I go to play. What if your AA batteries are 75% drained? Are you gonna change them or wait til they die? Because that'd suck to have to change them in the middle of a raid or whatever. But I also wouldn't want to change them at 75% because that'd be a waste. Those are serious questions. Not trying to be a dick.

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#197 Pedro
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Swap batteries or tether? 🤔

Swap batteries please.

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#198 kingtito
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@joshrmeyer said:

@kingtito: You sound mad. I'm only trying to help you Lems see the light. Honest question though: Do you change your batteries out after each gaming session? The reason I ask is because I know my battery is always fully charged when I go to play. What if your AA batteries are 75% drained? Are you gonna change them or wait til they die? Because that'd suck to have to change them in the middle of a raid or whatever. But I also wouldn't want to change them at 75% because that'd be a waste. Those are serious questions. Not trying to be a dick.

So explaining how fake and disingenuous your post are == sounding mad? Nope just pointing out the obvious about you and your fellow cows when it comes to batteries vs built in

Liar liar pants on fire.... :)

Not even close. When I was using AA disposables I changed maybe once a month if not longer depending on how many gaming sessions I had. I switched over to eneloop so when they die I walk over to my charging station, grab 2 freshly charged ones and swap. They last almost as long as my disposables. Wish I could say the same for my PS5/PS4 controllers though. I've had to purchase a 2nd controller on both just because they didn't/don't last long enough for those marathon sessions.

What if they're at 75%?? What do I do??? I change them soon as they're dead. Serious question??????? Much easier for me to swap than to plug in my controller and wait for it to charge or tether it and pretend I'm back on the PS1. Unfortunately I had to purchase a 2nd controller just to avoid that situation but that was $70 +tax expense I didn't want. Also I don't play multiplayer games on my consoles, I use my PC for everything online related. Having to swap out mid game isn't a problem for me but it wouldn't be much different for the PS since you'd have to pause to swap controllers or plug it in. Takes the same amount of time as swapping out batteries.