Silent Hill Downpour = Survival horror done right!

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#1 Master_ShakeXXX
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You heard it here, straight from the horse's mouth. SH Downpour is one of the greatest horror games of the current generation. It's pure, oldschool Silent Hill (plus a few new additions which don't take away from anything). You people asked for classic horror, well there it is. Don't listen to those goofy, money grubbing, two timing, greedy, dishonest, shady, sleazy, corrupt cretans like those guys over at IGN that gave this modern day classic a 4.5.

Games like Downpour are a rare breed folks, and if we want the survival horror genre to stay a float we need to support games like this, not disown them for archaic controls and being slow paced. Lets face the simple facts: Silent Hill Downpour simply didn't have enough explosions to appeal the modern day critic and gaming masses. It's story was too psychological, too intelligent. It's atmosphere too foreboding. It's characters too realistic. It's pacing too methodical and well thought out. Brilliant game design such as this does not pass for quality in this day and age.

Now I'm not saying Downpour is on par with classics like SH2 and SH3, but this is as close as the franchise has come in eons, and is one of the finest examples of modern day survival horror. My word not good enough? Here's what notoriously hard-to-please critic Jim Sterling (a huge Silent Hill fan) had to say about Downpour -http://www.destructoid.com/review-silent-hill-downpour-222794.phtml

If we want to save this great genre we must stop paying attention to garbage and focus on the hidden gems that today's gaming press doesn't want to you to know about.

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#2 DragonfireXZ95
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It had good atmosphere, but the gameplay is pretty horrific, and not in a good way. It is not one of the finest examples either. A good horror game has to be enjoyable to play. The combat in this game is atrocious.
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#3 funsohng
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Meh. You are Master Shake.
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#4 Obviously_Right
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:lol: gtfo

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#5 soulitane
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Well, now I know it sucks.
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#6 platniumgamer
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lol

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#7 spookykid143
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I'm still surprised that someone can have such terrible taste in games.
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#8 ChubbyGuy40
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It had good atmosphere, but the gameplay is pretty horrific, and not in a good way.DragonfireXZ95

Sounds like what classic RE haters claim. Therefor the game must actually be pretty good.

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#10 Xaero_Gravity
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I guess it's Downpour's turn to be Flavor of The Month. I want to try it myself, but not until it's $20.
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#11 rjdofu
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Pffffft, another Master_ShakeXXX's hype thread. Feel free to think the opposite of what he said, it'll probably be true.
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#12 madsnakehhh
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lol.

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#13 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]It had good atmosphere, but the gameplay is pretty horrific, and not in a good way.ChubbyGuy40

Sounds like what classic RE haters claim. Therefor the game must actually be pretty good.

The classic ones were good for the time, however they haven't exactly aged well. And it's a decent game, although I quit like 1/4th of the way through. :P Been meaning to continue again, but I became a little bored with it.
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#14 BPoole96
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Come get on Killing Floor. I'm playing right now
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#15 Ly_the_Fairy
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Go play Amnesia, and Penumbra.

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#16 Master_ShakeXXX
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I've been burned pretty badly with SH ever since Team Silent left (well, I have mixed feelings for SM), but like an abused spouse, I'll come back for more.

Game needs to drop in price though, it's always much too high whenever I come across it in stores.

Slashkice

I got it for $17 brand new online. Honestly I could have given $60 for it and I wouldn't have been disappointed with my investment. This is the best game the franchise has seen since SH3. Part of the reason it's so good is because it takes the SH2 approach and tells a completely original story. It doesn't shoehorn in unnecessary fan service crap (like how Pyramid Head was forced into Homecoming for no rhyme or reason). Eveything in this game exists for the sole purpose of the story and protagonist (who is great btw). It's Silent Hill made fresh again. Also I love how you can actually explore the entire town now, and the excellent art style of the environments, hidden secrets, and town mythos make exploration a blast. Game rules.

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#17 Master_ShakeXXX
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Come get on Killing Floor. I'm playing right nowBPoole96

I'm gonna be going to bed here in a little bit. Maybe next time though :P

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#18 jamejame
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I loved the game up until the combat came into play. With the Last of Us coming out, I really hope a survival horror dev takes a cue and manages some method of combat similar (but hopefully more difficult), because so many games seem to nail the atmosphere, story, and puzzles, yer flounder when it comes to the actual fighting. I don't want it to be easy, I jsut don't want it to be clunky either.

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#19 lamprey263
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This game is cursed to remain a series with potential but will forever be on a trial run to find a studio that can implement a decent combat system. I'm glad Konami was humble enough to realize that maybe they should look beyond the shores of Nippon to find a developer to strengthen their combat mechanics but that doesn't mean just give it to ANYBODY, I know we all look alike but find somebody with a decent resume under their belt.
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#20 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Come get on Killing Floor. I'm playing right nowMaster_ShakeXXX

I'm gonna be going to bed here in a little bit. Maybe next time though :P

Bastard :(
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#21 Gxgear
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The horror element is missing.

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#22 jg4xchamp
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Well, now I know it sucks.soulitane

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#23 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Well, now I know it sucks.jg4xchamp

It's actually very, very good. You should atleast give it a rent.

Downpour feels like one of Team Silent's babies.

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#24 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]Well, now I know it sucks.Master_ShakeXXX

It's actually very, very good. You should atleast give it a rent.

Downpour feels like one of Team Silent's babies.

Nah, I got AC3 on my gamefly Q right now. I'll get through that and Dishonored, and focus on games that actually look good to me. If I need a horror fix, I can wait out until Amnesia's sequel or that outlast game. Or I can hold out till American Horror Story calms down a bit.
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I have the game and its a truly horrendous piece of crap compared to Silent Hill 1, 2, 3 and 4. No atmosphere, ridiculous monsters and odd clunky combat. Pleeze.
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#26 jg4xchamp
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eh the Door wasn't all that either Love me some 1-3 though.
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#27 SpinoRaptor24
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I watched a couple of walkthroughs on Two Best Friends Play and it honestly looked pretty boring.

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#28 Master_ShakeXXX
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eh the Door wasn't all that either Love me some 1-3 though. jg4xchamp

Downpour is more reminiscent of SH2, and not in a copycatish kind of way. I delves into the psychology and backstory of the main protagonist, and has nothing to do with the cult. It's all totally original. And SH4 sucked. Downpour is much better.

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#29 Master_ShakeXXX
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I have the game and its a truly horrendous piece of crap compared to Silent Hill 1, 2, 3 and 4. No atmosphere, ridiculous monsters and odd clunky combat. Pleeze.AgentA-Mi6

No atmosphere? The game is f*cking drenched in atmosphere (no pun intended).

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#30 freedomfreak
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I haven't really touched the SH stuff I bought a while back. Which was this and the collection.
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#31 Master_ShakeXXX
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I haven't really touched the SH stuff I bought a while back. Which was this and the collection.freedomfreak

Return the collection if you still can. Seriously. It's not even based on the same code as the original PS2 versions. It's some kind of earlier, unfinished code, and it's all f*cked up.

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#32 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I haven't really touched the SH stuff I bought a while back. Which was this and the collection.Master_ShakeXXX

Return the collection if you still can. Seriously. It's not even based on the same code as the original PS2 versions. It's some kind of earlier, unfinished code, and it's all f*cked up.

I'd probably get a measly 10 bucks for it. Not exactly worth it. What's so different about that collection compared to the ps2 version.
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#33 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I haven't really touched the SH stuff I bought a while back. Which was this and the collection.freedomfreak

Return the collection if you still can. Seriously. It's not even based on the same code as the original PS2 versions. It's some kind of earlier, unfinished code, and it's all f*cked up.

I'd probably get a measly 10 bucks for it. Not exactly worth it. What's so different about that collection compared to the ps2 version.

A LOT. Certain sound effects have been replaced or removed entirely. There's graphical defects that didn't exist in the original versions (weird sh*t like teeth appearing inside of character's eyes). Altered music. A lot of the fog has been removed. It's the worst HD collection of all time. Some guys on youtube spent over 2 hours listing all of it's f*ck ups.

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#35 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Glad I never did that bet champ. I would have never have guessed his next masterpiece would be this.

Seriously.

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#36 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]eh the Door wasn't all that either Love me some 1-3 though.

The Room, not Door you moron. Damn fine to see the same idiots run around here.
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#37 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]eh the Door wasn't all that either Love me some 1-3 though.

The Room, not Door you moron. Damn fine to see the same idiots run around here.

Glad to see you still have a bleeding vagina over videogames.
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#38 jg4xchamp
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Glad I never did that bet champ. I would have never have guessed his next masterpiece would be this.

Seriously.

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Ugh, I know.
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#39 freedomfreak
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Thanks for the explanation and that link :P I have to say though, I have not played the ps2 versions. I'm not really sure how this will affect me. But still, it's a thing fans of the original will definitely notice. So, that's understandable.
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#40 Salt_The_Fries
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I just swapped Gears of War 3 with my friend for this game (only for a certain period of time, of course)...I hope it's at least semi-decent and better than Homecoming.
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#41 SRTtoZ
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Amnesia is one of the greatest horror games of this gen. Silent Hill Downpour is one of the worst...

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#42 svenus97
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I liked the feel of the exploration and combat, but the game just isn't scary. The monsters are just people, basically.

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#43 ShadowsDemon
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Most of you guys saying it sucks either aren't horror fans or haven't played Downpour. I loved it, and it felt as a true and proper horror game. It leaves its scares with subtle hints and clues, not gore shoved down your throat like in Dead Space. It's not a fantastic game where gameplay is concerned, but it's probably the purest horror game on consoles this gen. :)
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#44 Master_ShakeXXX
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Amnesia is one of the greatest horror games of this gen. Silent Hill Downpour is one of the worst...

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#45 Master_ShakeXXX
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Most of you guys saying it sucks either aren't horror fans or haven't played Downpour. I loved it, and it felt as a true and proper horror game. It leaves its scares with subtle hints and clues, not gore shoved down your throat like in Dead Space. It's not a fantastic game where gameplay is concerned, but it's probably the purest horror game on consoles this gen. :)ShadowsDemon

You like Vanquish, and you like Downpour. You are a good person.

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Dead Space smokes this game.

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#47 Master_ShakeXXX
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Dead Space smokes this game.

Liquid_

Dead Space is great, but it's not survival horror. Downpour spanks it in atmosphere and storytelling.

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#48 mark1982
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Downpour is a good game, calling it a masterpiece is a bit too much though. What appeals me is the traditional Silent Hill gameplay, slow tank movements for tense survival horror combat, atmosphere and pacing of the story. Compared to the older games this is one of the weaker Silent Hill titles, but still a nice addition to the series.

Comparing it to Resident Evil 6 or Dead Space, doesn't make any sense, yeah they're all labeled as survival horror, but Silent Hill focuses on melee combat rather than the arsenal of guns in RE or Dead Space. Downpour is a more traditional survival horror game where ammo is actually hard to come by. This is what makes it a more appealing survial horror game to the veterans of the genre.

Overall though, the story and enemy designs in Downpour were on the weaker side, and the transitions from the normal world into the "Otherworld" were a bit tedious with the glaring light chases. I preferred the exploration in the "Otherworld" aspect in previous titles.

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#49 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

Dead Space smokes this game.

Master_ShakeXXX

Dead Space is great, but it's not survival horror. Downpour spanks it in atmosphere and storytelling.

Will I enjoy Downpour if I loved Silent Hill 1 and 2 the most, apart from Resident Evil remake, I also loved Dead Space 1, but just liked Dead Space 2, and I liked Alone in the Dark (2008). I gave Homecoming a try, and it wasn't bad, it just wasn't particularly engaging either...Oh and I adore Amnesia...However, I don't like the Resident Evil series after the 4th one, and I absolutely hated the 5th one. I also liked Alan Wake. If I had to sort my top survival horror this gen, it'd go like this:

1.Amnesia

2.Dead Space 1

3.Alan Wake

4.Dead Space 2

5.Alone in the Dark