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#1 CaseyWegner
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...pc exclusive. that cool?
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#2 turgore
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What do you mean ? I don't get it...
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What do you mean ? I don't get it...turgore
its a very clever word game to bash the whole "ZOMG CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE EVEN THOUGH ITS ON THE PC DURKA" thing.
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#4 Yellow_Rose
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...pc exclusive. that cool?CaseyWegner

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Yellow_Rose

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

Besides the what, "200 million" - Microsoft. -_-
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#6 crazyjames1080
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Has it ever occurred to Lemmings that the terms 'console exclusive' and 'multiplatform' conflict?
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Yellow_Rose

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

then neither of them exist. :o

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#8 chrth
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?CaseyWegner

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

then neither of them exist. :o

We'll call them 'Vacuum-exclusive'. Like games released for 'MOBILE'
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...pc exclusive. that cool?CaseyWegner
I think that's cool.
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#10 smokeydabear076
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It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
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#12 shungokustasu
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It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
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Can you give me a example of what you saying please?
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#13 Buff-McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Vandalvideo

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

Besides the what, "200 million" - Microsoft. -_-

200 million don't own gaming PC's. Not, even, close. The ability to play solitaire on a PC doesn't qualify it as a gaming PC, especially in the context of this forum.

The whole "exclusivity" thing is silly to begin with.

I see the PC and the 360 as counterparts, peers. I don't see why 360 owners and PC owners seem to dislike eachother so much (maybe because their platforms have so much in common in terms of software, and no one fights like family.) I own a 360 so I don't really feel the compulsion to own a gaming PC. If I owned a gaming PC I wouldn't feel the need for a 360. Either way you'd miss out on one or two true "exclusives," but not enough to lose sleep over. 

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Buff-McBlumpkin

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

Besides the what, "200 million" - Microsoft. -_-

200 million don't own gaming PC's. Not, even, close. The ability to play solitaire on a PC doesn't qualify it as a gaming PC, especially in the context of this forum.

The whole "exclusivity" thing is silly to begin with.

I see the PC and the 360 as counterparts, peers. I don't see why 360 owners and PC owners seem to dislike eachother so much (maybe because their platforms have so much in common in terms of software, and no one fights like family.) I own a 360 so I don't really feel the compulsion to own a gaming PC. If I owned a gaming PC I wouldn't feel the need for a 360. Either way you'd miss out on one or two true "exclusives," but not enough to lose sleep over. 

I hate to say it, but Microsoft was including all of the low end computers that play games like the sims. You could easily purchase a low grade PC machine that could run all of today's new games and still be able to be called a "gaming PC". What is a "gaming pc" other than a PC for playing games? So yes, we have 200million who own "Gaming PCs". Unless you want me to talk your word over Microsofts. -_-
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#15 CaseyWegner
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I expected more from a mod :cry:hummer700

look closer.

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#16 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
shungokustasu
Can you give me a example of what you saying please?

Bioshock. Xbox fans call it exclusive when they make exclusive lists then PC fans tell them it is not exclusive because it is on the PC as well. Then the Xbox fans say it is console exclusive then the PC fans call it PC exclusive since the PC is separate from the console group.

Their exclusivity should not even be in question to begin with. If the game is the same on the other platform then why should you call it an exclusive title?
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#17 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
smokeydabear076
Can you give me a example of what you saying please?

Bioshock. Xbox fans call it exclusive when they make exclusive lists then PC fans tell them it is not exclusive because it is on the PC as well. Then the Xbox fans say it is console exclusive then the PC fans call it PC exclusive since the PC is separate from the console group.

Okay. How can one game be called console exclusive and pc exclusive? Is that the point of the thread to show how silly saying console exclusive is?
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#18 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
shungokustasu
Can you give me a example of what you saying please?

Bioshock. Xbox fans call it exclusive when they make exclusive lists then PC fans tell them it is not exclusive because it is on the PC as well. Then the Xbox fans say it is console exclusive then the PC fans call it PC exclusive since the PC is separate from the console group.

Okay. How can one game be called console exclusive and pc exclusive? Is that the point of the thread to show how silly saying console exclusive is?

Pretty much. By calling something "Console exlusive" you're exluding the PC. By that precedent we could exclude the console and call it a "PC exclusive".
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Bioshock. Xbox fans call it exclusive when they make exclusive lists then PC fans tell them it is not exclusive because it is on the PC as well. Then the Xbox fans say it is console exclusive then the PC fans call it PC exclusive since the PC is separate from the console group.
smokeydabear076

that would be horrible.

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#20 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
shungokustasu
Can you give me a example of what you saying please?

Bioshock. Xbox fans call it exclusive when they make exclusive lists then PC fans tell them it is not exclusive because it is on the PC as well. Then the Xbox fans say it is console exclusive then the PC fans call it PC exclusive since the PC is separate from the console group.

Okay. How can one game be called console exclusive and pc exclusive? Is that the point of the thread to show how silly saying console exclusive is?

Exactly. I was joking when I said it made sense because console exclusives do not make sense either.
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#21 Buff-McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Vandalvideo

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

Besides the what, "200 million" - Microsoft. -_-

200 million don't own gaming PC's. Not, even, close. The ability to play solitaire on a PC doesn't qualify it as a gaming PC, especially in the context of this forum.

The whole "exclusivity" thing is silly to begin with.

I see the PC and the 360 as counterparts, peers. I don't see why 360 owners and PC owners seem to dislike eachother so much (maybe because their platforms have so much in common in terms of software, and no one fights like family.) I own a 360 so I don't really feel the compulsion to own a gaming PC. If I owned a gaming PC I wouldn't feel the need for a 360. Either way you'd miss out on one or two true "exclusives," but not enough to lose sleep over. 

I hate to say it, but Microsoft was including all of the low end computers that play games like the sims. You could easily purchase a low grade PC machine that could run all of today's new games and still be able to be called a "gaming PC". What is a "gaming pc" other than a PC for playing games? So yes, we have 200million who own "Gaming PCs". Unless you want me to talk your word over Microsofts. -_-

No, you're mistaken. The "200 million" plus includes "games" like solitaire and mindsweeper (http://www.answers.com/topic/computer-and-video-games-that-have-been-considered-the-greatest-ever ,) not a computer's ability to "play games like the Sims." The number of gaming PC's implies number being used to play games - hence the solitaire inclusion. The base Sims games have sold less than 10 million copies (this isn't including exapansions and what not.)

It's no secret that the gaming PC numbers often include the likes of Solitaire, Mindsweeper, etc. In the context of this forum that doesn't hold water.

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You could say that, if the games aren't coming out for Linux or Mac. :P
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#24 turgore
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?CaseyWegner

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

then neither of them exist. :o



how come the only game your playing is on a PC...
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#25 A2D
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Lemmings will dodge this thread like Neo dodges bullets :P
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Pretty much. By calling something "Console exlusive" you're exluding the PC. By that precedent we could exclude the console and call it a "PC exclusive".

But the scale is tipped to the console side of this arguement. If an Xbox fan wants to prove their system the best. 9/10 he's want to show that off to PS3 and Wii, and not the PC. PC, on the other hand, If he wants to prove their system the best, he has to convince Xbox360, PS3, and Wii. Therefore, you can't exclude the console by saying "PC exclusive".
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?turgore

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

then neither of them exist. :o



how come the only game your playing is on a PC...

cause i usually only play one game at a time.

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#28 Vandalvideo
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Buff: That link doesn't prove anything. So the sales aren't directly proportional to the games sold. Whoopity doo. How does that disprove that there are 200million people out there with gaming PCs? It doesn't. PROVE TO ME those people are people who just use it to play solitaire. Go ahead, disprove Microsoft. I'm waiting. Side note: Thanks for deleting that Casey, allowed me to get a better arguement.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Pretty much. By calling something "Console exlusive" you're exluding the PC. By that precedent we could exclude the console and call it a "PC exclusive".shungokustasu
But the scale is tipped to the console side of this arguement. If an Xbox fan wants to prove their system the best. 9/10 he's want to show that off to PS3 and Wii, and not the PC. PC, on the other hand, If he wants to prove their system the best, he has to convince Xbox360, PS3, and Wii. Therefore, you can't exclude the console by saying "PC exclusive".

if he wants to prove his system is the best, it's going to have to best the ps3, wii, and the pc.

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#30 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Pretty much. By calling something "Console exlusive" you're exluding the PC. By that precedent we could exclude the console and call it a "PC exclusive".

But the scale is tipped to the console side of this arguement. If an Xbox fan wants to prove their system the best. 9/10 he's want to show that off to PS3 and Wii, and not the PC. PC, on the other hand, If he wants to prove their system the best, he has to convince Xbox360, PS3, and Wii. Therefore, you can't exclude the console by saying "PC exclusive".

Uhh, what? How does that have any bearing. The 360 fanboys are excluding the PC as a seperate market. We are doing the same. Irregardless.
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#31 Raidea
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...pc exclusive. that cool?CaseyWegner


I admire your crusade, but you have as much chance of changing this on the forum as you do changing peoples rediculously biased opinions.
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#32 Buff-McBlumpkin
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Ok then, how does solitaire not count? Is that not a game? A "gaming PC" is a PC used to play games none-the-less. Vandalvideo

I don't know, it just doesn't seem sensible to me. You can include Solitaire/MineSweeper/etc. under the umbrella of PC gaming if you like (Hell, most companies and pollsters do - Microsoft among them,) but I think that's ridiculous. My Mother/Aunt/Father play games like Solitaire, yet would have no idea how to go about playing an actual retail PC game (like the Sims or WOW) let alone even realize they exist for purchase. Yes, "technically" they play games on their PC's, but needless to say, these people have absolutely no impact on the gaming PC retail market. Would you consider a member of this forum with a low-end 400 dollar PC that he/she only uses to play Solitaire a "PC gamer?" I wouldn't, but maybe that's just me.

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#33 smokeydabear076
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The PC/Xbox360 game's exclusivity should not even be in question to begin with. If the game is the same(other then controls, it would be silly to call Call of Duty 3 on the Xbox an exclusive title because the PS3 has a different controller) on the other platform then why should you call it an exclusive title?
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#34 Vandalvideo
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Scroll up buff. How does that ilnk prove that Microsoft's original statement of 200million with gaming PCs is wrong? It just shows that games bought aren't proportional to systems owned. Now, disprove Microsoft. GO ahead, I'm waiting.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Pretty much. By calling something "Console exlusive" you're exluding the PC. By that precedent we could exclude the console and call it a "PC exclusive".CaseyWegner

But the scale is tipped to the console side of this arguement. If an Xbox fan wants to prove their system the best. 9/10 he's want to show that off to PS3 and Wii, and not the PC. PC, on the other hand, If he wants to prove their system the best, he has to convince Xbox360, PS3, and Wii. Therefore, you can't exclude the console by saying "PC exclusive".

if he wants to prove his system is the best, it's going to have to best the ps3, wii, and the pc.

Interesting...
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[QUOTE="hummer700"]I expected more from a mod :cry:CaseyWegner

look closer.

There isn't much to find.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?shungokustasu
I think that's cool.



Why did you cut the animation before the best part?
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Spartan070

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

Besides the what, "200 million" - Microsoft. -_-

How many of those are for gaming or are gaming worthy? You know how many non-gamers upgrade their graphics card?

Whether they're kids playing "Cars" or girls playing "Sims", they still count as the base. Even those who are sitting around playing 1.6 and Vanilla COD count.
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It doesn't matter what the volume of userbase is, it is still a fact that the exact same game is available for the 360. Hence, it is a multiplatform title. I agree that 'lemmings' should stop calling them console exclusive, but the argument should definitely not be based around userbase numbers.
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#41 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?Spartan070

Not very many people own gaming PC's either ;)

Besides the what, "200 million" - Microsoft. -_-

How many of those are for gaming or are gaming worthy? You know how many non-gamers upgrade their graphics card?

I am sure a lot of them are game worthy, I am sure I could but Doom on a lot of those PCs and have no problem running it.
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#42 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Scroll up buff. How does that ilnk prove that Microsoft's original statement of 200million with gaming PCs is wrong? It just shows that games bought aren't proportional to systems owned. Now, disprove Microsoft. GO ahead, I'm waiting.

I think the question is, Vandal, how do you know that all 200 million of those people actually game on their PCs, whether they have the ability or not? Hmmmm, a conundrum....
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#43 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Scroll up buff. How does that ilnk prove that Microsoft's original statement of 200million with gaming PCs is wrong? It just shows that games bought aren't proportional to systems owned. Now, disprove Microsoft. GO ahead, I'm waiting.

I think the question is, Vandal, how do you know that all 200 million of those people actually game on their PCs, whether they have the ability or not? Hmmmm, a conundrum....

I don't, but how am I saying they are? I'm asking him to disprove Microsoft. Microsoft is the one stating those 200 million "own gaming PCs". So if he wants to buck with the bull, he better come prepared.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]...pc exclusive. that cool?InsaneBasura
I think that's cool.



Why did you cut the animation before the best part?

That's the full animation. Umm, I hope you not tinking what I think you thinking...That just gross man.
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Scroll up buff. How does that ilnk prove that Microsoft's original statement of 200million with gaming PCs is wrong? It just shows that games bought aren't proportional to systems owned. Now, disprove Microsoft. GO ahead, I'm waiting.Vandalvideo

Dude, Microsoft was referring to PC's actively used to play games - games like Solitaire included, not PC's with the "ability to play games." More than 200 million own PC's - and all of them have the ability to play a "game" so that 200 million estimate doesn't hold water using your logic. However, currently around 200 million PC's currently have "games" on them - this includes programs like Solitaire that come packed-in to the vast majority of the last decade's worth of PC sales. Hence the "200 million own gaming PC's."

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Doesn't matter what you call them, the fact is they're available for multiple platforms.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Scroll up buff. How does that ilnk prove that Microsoft's original statement of 200million with gaming PCs is wrong? It just shows that games bought aren't proportional to systems owned. Now, disprove Microsoft. GO ahead, I'm waiting.Buff-McBlumpkin

Dude, Microsoft was referring to PC's actively used to play games - games like Solitaire included, not PC's with the "ability to play games." More than 200 million own PC's - and all of them have the ability to play a "game" so that 200 million estimate doesn't hold water using your logic. However, currently around 200 million PC's currently have "games" on them - this includes programs like Solitaire that come packed-in to the vast majority of the last decade's worth of PC sales. Hence the "200 million own gaming PC's."

Great, infer all you want. Now PROVE thats what they mean't.
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#48 shungokustasu
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Plain and simple. Console gamers don't recongnize PC gamers. PC gamers wants a little respect. It's like the Gieco Caveman commercials.
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#49 Fusible
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It makes sense to me. You guys get the "console exclusive" title and we can call it "PC exclusive". It would end a lot of pointless arguments about exclusivity.
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I agree. Since console, and pc are 2 different things. I think it should.
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#50 Guess_With_ReX
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I think you should...................