Since lighting is the new discriminator, what is the light-king?

Please, do notice that this thread is strictly real-time lighting. Pre-baked, while impressive, is not really a technical marvel.

Alas, all lighting systems should be discussed here. HDR, Volumetric, Global Illumination, Dynamic lighting, etc

As my answer to why I said 'the new discriminator', Lighting is what truly differentiates between good looking and graphical powerhouse. It also differentiates between high and very high graphics in some PC games. This is due to the seeming fact that as you move up the graphical slope, texture and geometry don't improve much; lighting improves by significant margin.

STALER COP without a doubt

Gears 3 for sure

Crysis 2 and Alan Wake. Gears 3 seems up there too!

lol, i love the "any PS3 exclusive, you choose" option. goes to show how many good looking PS3 exclusives there are :lol:.

but seriously? Killzone 3.

Stalker: Call Of Pripyat :D

Stalker: Call Of Pripyat :D

DreamCryotank

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

crysis 2. glow... with hdr lens flares, everything is dynamic and everything has a light source. It's the best lighting I've ever seen without a doubt.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Stalker: Call Of Pripyat :D

TheKing012

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

Stalkers lighting is insane, especially how it cast shadows. In Pripyat, the buildings have signs above them, and even if they're hundreds of feet away, if a lighting bolt appears behind it it'll render each letter of the sign across the entire level, stretched. It's really amazing 8)

And another video

Haters gonna hate. :P

^^ is the stalker complete mod out yet for call of pripyat?

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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Stalker: Call Of Pripyat :D

DreamCryotank

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

^^ is the stalker complete mod out yet for call of pripyat?

theuncharted34

Yup

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

^^ is the stalker complete mod out yet for call of pripyat?

DreamCryotank

Yup

can you post an original copy of Stalker, without mods, that showcases the game in the visual light it supposedly has?

seriously, the game looks terrible in my opinion. worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (as i previously mentioned). the "lighting" being good under mod conditions isn't really much of a redemption for it.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

^^ is the stalker complete mod out yet for call of pripyat?

TheKing012

Yup

can you post an original copy of Stalker, without mods, that showcases the game in the visual light it supposedly has?

seriously, the game looks terrible in my opinion. worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (as i previously mentioned). the "lighting" being good under mod conditions isn't really much of a redemption for it.

The first 2 GIFs i posted is how the lighting looks in vanilla state.

Here look, official trailer by GSC Gameworld. No mods involved.

And that was back in 2008. :)

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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Yup

DreamCryotank

can you post an original copy of Stalker, without mods, that showcases the game in the visual light it supposedly has?

seriously, the game looks terrible in my opinion. worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (as i previously mentioned). the "lighting" being good under mod conditions isn't really much of a redemption for it.

The first 2 GIFs i posted is how the lighting looks in vanilla state.

Here look, official trailer by GSC Gameworld. No mods involved.

i meant from Call of Pripyat, that's what you posted.

:P

What other game has lighting as awesome as this

What other game has lighting as awesome as this

xgeua

Halo reach has outstanding lighting.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

can you post an original copy of Stalker, without mods, that showcases the game in the visual light it supposedly has?

seriously, the game looks terrible in my opinion. worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (as i previously mentioned). the "lighting" being good under mod conditions isn't really much of a redemption for it.

TheKing012

The first 2 GIFs i posted is how the lighting looks in vanilla state.

Here look, official trailer by GSC Gameworld. No mods involved.

i meant from Call of Pripyat, that's what you posted.

:P

Ok lemme make a video. I just reinstalled it (My PC crashed and all my data got erased :() I won't mod anything and I'll show you lighting storms and sunrise.

Stalkers lighting is insane, especially how it cast shadows. In Pripyat, the buildings have signs above them, and even if they're hundreds of feet away, if a lighting bolt appears behind it it'll render each letter of the sign across the entire level, stretched. It's really amazing 8)

And another video

Haters gonna hate. :P

DreamCryotank

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

^^ is the stalker complete mod out yet for call of pripyat?

TheKing012

Yup

can you post an original copy of Stalker, without mods, that showcases the game in the visual light it supposedly has?

seriously, the game looks terrible in my opinion. worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (as i previously mentioned). the "lighting" being good under mod conditions isn't really much of a redemption for it.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

TheKing012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

Mods seem like fair game to me, its not our fault consoles dont have any :D

What other game has lighting as awesome as this

xgeua

Yup Halo Reachs lighting is so underrated.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

TheKing012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

NanoMan88

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

Mods seem like fair game to me, its not our fault consoles dont have any :D

They seem like fair game to me as well. At the very least it's nothing like photoshoping.

Alan Wake for me

Not the best quality video but here you go

here's another one

I'm still wondering whether or not the math behind modern lighting engines has exceeded Doom 3 yet.

Alan Wake is the best

The Pick any PS3 exclusive was an odd option

Donkey Kong 64 :P

out of that list, stalker. that's the most impressive graphical feature in that game, and for good reason.

the textures could be on low or medium and still look photorealistic with the right lighting/texture packs.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. CoP Also, the guy that compared Complete mod to photoshop + KZ3..... :question::question::question::question::question:

Why do people find Alan Wakes lighting impressive? Because his torch is volumetric? Metro 2033 has tons of NPCs onscreen at once that have volumetric lighting coming from their head lamps. :?

Crysis 2's lighting is incredible, even on console. Best I personally have seen. Honorable mentions go to Alan Wake and Dead Space 2.

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting availableTheKing012

Stalker for sure, pretty much everyone who has played it will post it; it's pretty much the correct answer given the options.

Metro 2033 easily, followed by a tie between stalker and just cause 2.

Killzone 3ThePsTriple

Yea...prerendered lighting that isnt even accurate...cool stuff man.

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[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

can you post an original copy of Stalker, without mods, that showcases the game in the visual light it supposedly has?

seriously, the game looks terrible in my opinion. worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (as i previously mentioned). the "lighting" being good under mod conditions isn't really much of a redemption for it.

TheKing012

The first 2 GIFs i posted is how the lighting looks in vanilla state.

Here look, official trailer by GSC Gameworld. No mods involved.

i meant from Call of Pripyat, that's what you posted.

:P

Here. Fresh install, no mods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WiNf5m3EE

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Killzone 3edinsftw

Yea...prerendered lighting that isnt even accurate...cool stuff man.

Their prebaked GI is a million times more accurate than Crysis 2's solution. They also have plenty of dynamic lighting as well.

Teufelhuhn