Since the psp had started kicking ds's butt, will it stay that way forever??

This isn't a war. Sony didn't go into this expecting to beat nintendo. The PSP was just a way to get a foot in the door and open the way for future products.

gundamfan80

lol, are u serious?

i cant imagine sony exec's going 'lets just release a handheld that'll come in 2nd place to the ds' 

[QUOTE="fierro316"]

Wow. Does people still think that DS games are better?

The last decent DS game I saw was Hotel Dusk.

mjarantilla

The last decent PSP game I saw was....

.....

............

....I can't remember.

[QUOTE="gundamfan80"]

This isn't a war. Sony didn't go into this expecting to beat nintendo. The PSP was just a way to get a foot in the door and open the way for future products.

dirty_diaz

lol, are u serious?

i cant imagine sony exec's going 'lets just release a handheld that'll come in 2nd place to the ds' 

[QUOTE="dirty_diaz"][QUOTE="gundamfan80"]

This isn't a war. Sony didn't go into this expecting to beat nintendo. The PSP was just a way to get a foot in the door and open the way for future products.

SolidSnake35

lol, are u serious?

i cant imagine sony exec's going 'lets just release a handheld that'll come in 2nd place to the ds' 

ya no one can expect to dominate a market with their first entry. thats all I said

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RedLobsterpwns

No no no.

Compared to the experts? well, the experts are in no place to tell me if im having fun with a game. That would be like if i said "man, this coffee sure is the best", but just then the president kicks down the door and says"no no no, you've got it all wrong, tea is much better." It doesnt matter what other people say about games, its about what the person who's playing it thinks. The DS has games has games suited better to my tastes.You like the PSP better. It really doesnt matter. In my opinion personal experience is more important than what critics think. I dont think it really matters what anybody elsethinks.

How do we determine a flop on SW? The review. The experts opinion.

Now that of course dosent detrmine if YOU enjoy the game, but its critics that decides presented result,

That dosent mean you shouldent buy and enjoy the game!

Of course I value my opinion over the game morso than the reviews - why else would there be Hermits, Cows, Sheep and Lemmings - everyong has their own personal tastes.

That still dosent count out that the PSP has overall better games, according to the critical response. THAT dosent mean YOUR not entitled to your own likes and dislikes

For all you know I could rather DS games. I do have both dontchaknow ;) 

Im simply willing to acknowlege that the PSP has better games than the DS - according to the critics response..... 

DS games.

A few multiplats and trash kids games on DS.

My point being: The DS has just as many multiplats as the PSP, AND crap kids games.Phil_Ken_Sebben

Are you intentionally being thick-headed?

Hey, chuckles, you missed my point. I was trying to show how many multiplats there were compared to exclusives on the PSP among games that were actually worth getting, and I've shown that the majority of the PSP's AA library is composed of multiplat games.

Why don't you list the DS's AA rated games, and point out to me which ones are multiplat. I guarantee that only about a third of them, if not less, will be multiplat, in comparison to over half of the PSP's library.

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chat2

LOL theres a huge difference between Doctors, engineers and policticians between game reviewers, doctors go to medical schools and study for a decade to become a doctor, a doctor knows that eating to much fatty foods is not good for your health because of scientific facts, if a game reviewer told you that game x is better than game y, what would be their basis?

but I know what you are trying to say, you should have a different example

I just needed a quick example  :D

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

 Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

[QUOTE="fierro316"]

Wow. Does people still think that DS games are better?

The last decent DS game I saw was Hotel Dusk.

mjarantilla

The last decent PSP game I saw was....

.....

............

....I can't remember.

Just take out your fanboy goggles and check the reviews in the PSP section.

Also Crush scored AAA in 1Up. 

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]DS games.

A few multiplats and trash kids games on DS.

My point being: The DS has just as many multiplats as the PSP, AND crap kids games.mjarantilla

Are you intentionally being thick-headed?

Hey, chuckles, you missed my point. I was trying to show how many multiplats there were compared to exclusives on the PSP among games that were actually worth getting, and I've shown that the majority of the PSP's AA library is composed of multiplat games.

Why don't you list the DS's AA rated games, and point out to me which ones are multiplat. I guarantee that only about a third of them, if not less, will be multiplat, in comparison to over half of the PSP's library.

Never mind. I did it for you.

Here are the DS's AA-rated games:

Elite Beat Agents

Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

Metroid Prime: Hunters

Kirby: Canvas Curse

Pokemon Diamond

Pokemon Pearl

Meteos

Lunar Knights

Animal Crossing: Wild World

MULTIPLAT Tony Hawk's American Sk8land

MULTIPLAT Super Mario 64 DS

Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin

Hotel Dusk: Room 215

Nintendogs: Dalmatian and Friends

Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

Age of Empires: The Age of Kings

Sonic Rush

Metroid Prime Pinball

MULTIPLAT Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords

Bomberman Land Touch!

MULTIPLAT Spider-Man 3

Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales

Clubhouse Games

That's four multiplats out of 25 AA-rated games. Compare that to thirty multiplats out of 55 AA-rated games.

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]DS games.

My point being: The DS has just as many multiplats as the PSP, AND crap kids games.mjarantilla

Are you intentionally being thick-headed?

Hey, chuckles, you missed my point. I was trying to show how many multiplats there were compared to exclusives on the PSP among games that were actually worth getting, and I've shown that the majority of the PSP's AA library is composed of multiplat games.

Why don't you list the DS's AA rated games, and point out to me which ones are multiplat. I guarantee that only about a third of them, if not less, will be multiplat, in comparison to over half of the PSP's library.

What about Oblivion?

 I have to agree with you that the PSP DOES have more better scoring multiplats than the DS- BUT the DS has just as many multiplats AND more kiddy trash.

My point being just because the PSP has higher scoring multiplats, dosent mean the DS dosent have any.

I mean why do you think the DS's average game score would be EXTREMELY low, compared to PSP?

Im willing to say the DS has more unqiue IPs though. No doubt.

Oh there is no need to flame, or re word my quotes....

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Wow. Does people still think that DS games are better?

The last decent DS game I saw was Hotel Dusk.

fierro316

The last decent PSP game I saw was....

.....

............

....I can't remember.

Just take out your fanboy goggles and check the reviews in the PSP section.

Also Crush scored AAA in 1Up.

I'm not sure what Crush is, but what was the last decent PSP game for you? 

Psp is doing good, but will never exceed DS in any category, except for functionality and better hardware.

lantus

Nah..PSP exceeds or will exceed DS in  some genres :)

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Care to prove me wrong?

DS games.

A few multiplats and trash kids games on DS.

My point being: The DS has just as many multiplats as the PSP, AND crap kids games.

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End

Shrek the Third

Spider-Man 3

Rayman Raving Rabbids

Major League Baseball 2K7

TMNT

Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords

Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007

Diddy Kong Racing DS

Bionicle Heroes

Arthur and the Invisibles

Micro Machines V4

Avatar: The Last Airbender

Star Wars: Lethal Alliance

Happy Feet

Eragon

Tomb Raider: Legend

Asphalt: Urban GT 2

The Sims 2: Pets

Yoshi's Island DS

Yoshi's Island DS

Flushed Away

Nacho Libre

Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam

Justice League Heroes

FIFA 07

Open Season

Madden NFL 07

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Point Blank DS

2006 FIFA World Cup

Top Spin 2

Worms: Open Warfare

I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

 Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

alecsuba

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]DS games.

mjarantilla

So both platforms have almost the same amount of non multiplat AA games........

Fair enough. 

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

alecsuba

Hey, at least Sony designed a next gen system unlike you know who...

[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

SolidSnake35

I dont need to Nintendo Designs game systems for me. Sony Designed a whatever you want to call it ut its sure as hell not a Game System by default. Sony in its quest for Home dominance forgot what Gaming is about.  

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I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

TH and Spiderman is the same as me saying Gun and others on PSP are different than the console counterparts beacausethey have wifi multiplayer, multi bots, extra missions and downloadble content. 

[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

fierro316

Hey, at least Sony designed a next gen system unlike you know who...

They designed something apparently the majority of people dont give a damned about. Next Gen has nothing to do with graphics power etc. Every new console is next gen no matter what specs. Next Gen refers to generation 6,7,8 and on and on not power. 

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I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

TH and Spiderman is the same as me saying Gun and others on PSP are different than the console counterparts beacausethey have wifi multiplayer, multi bots, extra missions and downloadble content.

Yoshi Island DS is a brand new Yoshi Island game not a port or anything. 

Do does that mean Burnout on XBox and PS3 shouldent be included as top games?

What about Oblivion?Phil_Ken_Sebben

So you would buy the same game twice just to play it portable?

With games on the 360 and PS3, you buy one or the other, not both, and you're likely to get pretty much identical experiences from either version. But with multiplat games on the PSP, you're forced to choose between being able to play the game on your TV with surround sound, or being able to play the game on the move. The majority of people will choose to buy the home console version.

Ds owners need to lay off using the PSP as weak flamebait.

Its a great handheld - targets different game genres and is practically the opposite handheld to the DS.

The two are completely different.  SO quit your whining and enjoy either one, beacuse both are fantastic.

And dont succumb to TC's weak - purpose flambait......................... 

[QUOTE="fierro316"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

alecsuba

Hey, at least Sony designed a next gen system unlike you know who...

They designed something apparently the majority of people dont give a damned about. Next Gen has nothing to do with graphics power etc. Every new console is next gen no matter what specs. Next Gen refers to generation 6,7,8 and on and on not power.

Next generation machines is about upgrading, always been.  

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]DS games.

Phil_Ken_Sebben

So both platforms have almost the same amount of non multiplat AA games........

Fair enough.

And none of the PSP's exclusive AA games are worth playing on a portable system, because they were designed for gameplay at home.

Can you honestly say that you would rather play Syphon Filter on the PSP? Wouldn't you have rather seen Syphon Filter, SOCOM, and Twisted Metal on the PS2 instead, with 480p and surround sound?

That's why I can't bring myself to buy a PSP. Even if it does have good exclusives, that little voice in my mind will always be telling me, "This would've been SO much better on the PS2." 

[QUOTE="alecsuba"][QUOTE="fierro316"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

fierro316

Hey, at least Sony designed a next gen system unlike you know who...

They designed something apparently the majority of people dont give a damned about. Next Gen has nothing to do with graphics power etc. Every new console is next gen no matter what specs. Next Gen refers to generation 6,7,8 and on and on not power.

Next generation machines is about upgrading, always been.

It's not that simple.

[QUOTE="alecsuba"][QUOTE="fierro316"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

PSP was the handheld to rescue gamers from the "Ghetto" as Sony put it. PSP was the Nintendo Killer. There is no backtracking from this one. SOny fell flat on thier bloated asses thinking they could rule all through hardware specs.

Low and behold the same morons have fallen on their bloated asses again with the PS3.

fierro316

Hey, at least Sony designed a next gen system unlike you know who...

They designed something apparently the majority of people dont give a damned about. Next Gen has nothing to do with graphics power etc. Every new console is next gen no matter what specs. Next Gen refers to generation 6,7,8 and on and on not power.

Next generation machines is about upgrading, always been.

Wii has doubled the power of its predecessor by that definition of next gen you hold it is indeed next gen.

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[QUOTE="qewrewq"]Phil_Ken_Sebben

I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

TH and Spiderman is the same as me saying Gun and others on PSP are different than the console counterparts beacausethey have wifi multiplayer, multi bots, extra missions and downloadble content.

Im pretty sure Spiderman was specifcally designed for the DS, its in 2d unlike its console versions, unless it was ported from the GBA, but i dont think so. Yoshi's island was a GBA and snes game, Yoshi's island DS is yoshi's island 2. TH,well, thats arguable, but it's not ported because the story was different, the levels were somewhat different, it had wifi, extra customizations, first ingame voicechat on the DS. It dont think it's considered a port.

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]Do does that mean Burnout on XBox and PS3 shouldent be included as top games?

What about Oblivion?mjarantilla

So you would buy the same game twice just to play it portable?

With games on the 360 and PS3, you buy one or the other, not both, and you're likely to get pretty much identical experiences from either version. But with multiplat games on the PSP, you're forced to choose between being able to play the game on your TV with surround sound, or being able to play the game on the move. The majority of people will choose to buy the home console version.

I have to agree with you that the PSP DOES have more better scoring multiplats than the DS- BUT the DS has just as many multiplats AND more kiddy trash.

My point being just because the PSP has higher scoring multiplats, dosent mean the DS dosent have any.

I mean why do you think the DS's average game score would be EXTREMELY low, compared to PSP?Phil_Ken_Sebben

What the hell kind of person would buy a console for its lowest scoring games? No one cares about those; they might as well not exist. But people care about the high scoring games, and when people look at the PSP's "highest rated games" list and see that it shares more than half of its AA-rated games with the PS2, PS3, and 360, they'll turn away.

h there is no need to flame, or re word my quotes....Phil_Ken_Sebben

I didn't reword your quotes, I just removed the list of games because it was too long.

What if the PSP owner dosent have a PS2.....? Then do these multiplats count. I have a mate with a PSP + Xbox so there is a first hand account....

And in terms of version it depends on whats the content. I  bought Pro Evo on my PSP BECAUSE I could carry it in my pocket..... And its wifi. Other games have online and downloadable content - not to mention different features.    Why would you buy Mario 64 Ds againIf you had it on N64?

Of course you buy the handheld for high scoring games. But when you break it down to exclusives AAA's AA's, both the DS and PSP have almost the same amount. 3 of the same Nintendogs games dont count :P

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[QUOTE="qewrewq"]RedLobsterpwns

I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

TH and Spiderman is the same as me saying Gun and others on PSP are different than the console counterparts beacausethey have wifi multiplayer, multi bots, extra missions and downloadble content.

Im pretty sure Spiderman was specifcally designed for the DS, its in 2d unlike its console versions, unless it was ported from the GBA, but i dont think so. Yoshi's island was a GBA and snes game, Yoshi's island DS is yoshi's island 2. TH,well, thats arguable, but it's not ported because the story was different, the levels were somewhat different, it had wifi, extra customizations, first ingame voicechat on the DS. It dont think it's considered a port.

/ EXACTLY!!!!

 See what I mean. Sometimes the term multiplat is thrown around too much - the equivilent game is actually much more different to its console counterpart.

That includes BOTH the DS and PSP :P 

the PSP may have more triple A games but DS has way better sales than the PSP, WHY!?!?!? because people want something different, it doens't matter if it just a gimmick or not, as long as its offers something different may it be gameplay or control scheme its good to see something new rather than making it more powerful and faster.

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]DS games.

mjarantilla

So both platforms have almost the same amount of non multiplat AA games........

Fair enough.

And none of the PSP's exclusive AA games are worth playing on a portable system, because they were designed for gameplay at home.

Can you honestly say that you would rather play Syphon Filter on the PSP? Wouldn't you have rather seen Syphon Filter, SOCOM, and Twisted Metal on the PS2 instead, with 480p and surround sound?

That's why I can't bring myself to buy a PSP. Even if it does have good exclusives, that little voice in my mind will always be telling me, "This would've been SO much better on the PS2."

 Fission Mailed.

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[QUOTE="qewrewq"]Phil_Ken_Sebben

I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

TH and Spiderman is the same as me saying Gun and others on PSP are different than the console counterparts beacausethey have wifi multiplayer, multi bots, extra missions and downloadble content.

Im pretty sure Spiderman was specifcally designed for the DS, its in 2d unlike its console versions, unless it was ported from the GBA, but i dont think so. Yoshi's island was a GBA and snes game, Yoshi's island DS is yoshi's island 2. TH,well, thats arguable, but it's not ported because the story was different, the levels were somewhat different, it had wifi, extra customizations, first ingame voicechat on the DS. It dont think it's considered a port.

/ EXACTLY!!!!

See what I mean. Sometimes the term multiplat is thrown around too much - the equivilent game is actually much more different to its console counterpart.

That includes BOTH the DS and PSP :P

Like i said, no one's wrong. Why are we still arguing? 

the PSP may have more triple A games but DS has way better sales than the PSP, WHY!?!?!? because people want something different, it doens't matter if it just a gimmick or not, as long as its offers something different may it be gameplay or control scheme its good to see something new rather than making it more powerful and faster.

chat2

Thats why.

Same  with the Wii. It may have not many good games, but it still sells well.

The unique control scheme simply enforces its appeal.

Thats how marketing works :P

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[QUOTE="qewrewq"]RedLobsterpwns

I'll do three of those. Yoshi's Island DS is neither a kiddy game nor a port and you listed it twice. Some of the last few levels are incredibly difficult. Spiderman 3 isnt a port either, it was built specifically for the DS and was not ported from another system it's arguably kiddy though, but i hear its a decent game with some interesting controls. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam is considered much better than it's Wii counterpart. From personal experience i can tell you its far better than the wii version.

TH and Spiderman is the same as me saying Gun and others on PSP are different than the console counterparts beacausethey have wifi multiplayer, multi bots, extra missions and downloadble content.

Im pretty sure Spiderman was specifcally designed for the DS, its in 2d unlike its console versions, unless it was ported from the GBA, but i dont think so. Yoshi's island was a GBA and snes game, Yoshi's island DS is yoshi's island 2. TH,well, thats arguable, but it's not ported because the story was different, the levels were somewhat different, it had wifi, extra customizations, first ingame voicechat on the DS. It dont think it's considered a port.

/ EXACTLY!!!!

See what I mean. Sometimes the term multiplat is thrown around too much - the equivilent game is actually much more different to its console counterpart.

That includes BOTH the DS and PSP :P

Like i said, no one's wrong. Why are we still arguing?

What if the PSP owner dosent have a PS2.....? Then do these multiplats count. I have a mate with a PSP + Xbox so there is a first hand account....Phil_Ken_Sebben

Most of those games would be on the Xbox, too. I can't tell you which, though.

And in terms of version it depends on whats the content. I bought Pro Evo on my PSP BECAUSE I could carry it in my pocket..... And its wifi. Other games have online and downloadable content - not to mention different features.Phil_Ken_Sebben

Those features are unimportant in the long run. With sports games, I would only play them for local multiplayer. There's just no point to playing them single-player, at least in all of my friends' opinions, and they're fanatical sports fans. But with every other kind of game except online-based games like Battlefield, the single-player campaign is by far the most important feature for the vast majority of gamers.

Why would you buy Mario 64 Ds againIf you had it on N64?Phil_Ken_Sebben

I wouldn't.

Of course you buy the handheld for high scoring games. But when you break it down to exclusives AAA's AA's, both the DS and PSP have almost the same amount. 3 of the same Nintendogs games dont count Phil_Ken_Sebben

Personally, I'm different from the majority in this regard, because I don't want to play games based on franchises. I don't like Mario (although I do want to try Galaxy because I'm curious), I stopped playing both WW and TP, never played Metroid Prime, don't like MGS, FFXII was the first FF I've played since FFVI, and I couldn't care less about Dante.

I like new things, which is why the DS is my favorite console, followed by the 360 and Wii. The 360 has by far the most interesting new IPs over the PS3 (except for Halo 3, I can't think of any big exclusive franchise-based games on the 360), I'm more excited over Heavenly Sword and Last Remnant than I am for MGS4 or Final Fantasy, and the Wii and DS are just completely new experiences.

Based on the only scores that matter at System Wars DS has the most AAA titles. while PSP has more AA titles.

 But it doesnt matter anyways. Sony hyped the PSP  to death as the Final Nail in Nintendos Coffin. Instead Nintendo is hammering the nails in Sonys coffin using a PSP as the hammer 

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]DS games.

Phil_Ken_Sebben

So both platforms have almost the same amount of non multiplat AA games........

Fair enough.

And none of the PSP's exclusive AA games are worth playing on a portable system, because they were designed for gameplay at home.

Can you honestly say that you would rather play Syphon Filter on the PSP? Wouldn't you have rather seen Syphon Filter, SOCOM, and Twisted Metal on the PS2 instead, with 480p and surround sound?

That's why I can't bring myself to buy a PSP. Even if it does have good exclusives, that little voice in my mind will always be telling me, "This would've been SO much better on the PS2."

Go ahead and say that. I'll agree with you 100%. Well, except for MarioKart, because MarioKart DS is the first MarioKart that allows for 8-player multiplayer, and that is an experience all on its own. But the other two, sure, go ahead and say that. That's why I didn't buy Resident Evil and why I stopped playing MP:H after the first stage, even though MP:H's controls are spot-on perfect.

/\ Like I said it all comes down to personall opinion.

Regardless the PSP and DS are great. Each compliments eachother with their own unique pros and cons.

The funny thing is, whichever is better  entirley depends on user opinion, beacuse of the drastic difference of the handhelds. 

Based on the only scores that matter at System Wars DS has the most AAA titles. while PSP has more AA titles.

 alecsuba

AAA games:

PSP

Lumines

Burnout Legends

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops

Daxter

Tekken: Dark Resurrection

DS

Mario Kart DS

Advance Wars: Dual Strike

Yoshi's Island DS

Nintendogs

Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends

NUFF SAID!

Plus DS is still the king of AAA and exclusive games, sry.wok7

Both have the same amount of AAA and AA EXCLUSIVE games.

Look a few pages back if you dont beleive me.

Fission Mailed.

edit * CORRECTION PSP has 1 more AAA and AA game than the DS 

AAA games:

PSP

Lumines

Burnout Legends

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops

Daxter

Tekken: Dark Resurrection

DS

Mario Kart DS

Advance Wars: Dual Strike

Yoshi's Island DS

Nintendogs

Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends

 

NUFF SAID!

Phil_Ken_Sebben

Tekken and Burnout aren't exclusive. :P

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]Do does that mean Burnout on XBox and PS3 shouldent be included as top games?

What about Oblivion?Phil_Ken_Sebben

So you would buy the same game twice just to play it portable?

With games on the 360 and PS3, you buy one or the other, not both, and you're likely to get pretty much identical experiences from either version. But with multiplat games on the PSP, you're forced to choose between being able to play the game on your TV with surround sound, or being able to play the game on the move. The majority of people will choose to buy the home console version.

I have to agree with you that the PSP DOES have more better scoring multiplats than the DS- BUT the DS has just as many multiplats AND more kiddy trash.

My point being just because the PSP has higher scoring multiplats, dosent mean the DS dosent have any.

I mean why do you think the DS's average game score would be EXTREMELY low, compared to PSP?Phil_Ken_Sebben

What the hell kind of person would buy a console for its lowest scoring games? No one cares about those; they might as well not exist. But people care about the high scoring games, and when people look at the PSP's "highest rated games" list and see that it shares more than half of its AA-rated games with the PS2, PS3, and 360, they'll turn away.

h there is no need to flame, or re word my quotes....Phil_Ken_Sebben

I didn't reword your quotes, I just removed the list of games because it was too long.

What if the PSP owner dosent have a PS2.....? Then do these multiplats count. I have a mate with a PSP + Xbox so there is a first hand account....

And in terms of version it depends on whats the content. I bought Pro Evo on my PSP BECAUSE I could carry it in my pocket..... And its wifi. Other games have online and downloadable content - not to mention different features. Why would you buy Mario 64 Ds againIf you had it on N64?

Of course you buy the handheld for high scoring games. But when you break it down to exclusives AAA's AA's, both the DS and PSP have almost the same amount. 3 of the same Nintendogs games dont count :P

do you hate the ds, cause ate one point you said it was a great system and other times you say it just haves kiddy trash. I think why a lot of people like the ds is because its a more unique experience with  the touchschreen. Sure the psp has new god of war games and stuff but you can do it better on the ps2. With the ds a lot of the games are also touchscreen and are more suited for on the go.

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]

AAA games:

PSP

Lumines

Burnout Legends

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops

Daxter

Tekken: Dark Resurrection

DS

Mario Kart DS

Advance Wars: Dual Strike

Yoshi's Island DS

Nintendogs

New Super Mario Bros.

 

NUFF SAID!

mjarantilla

Tekken and Burnout aren't exclusive. :P

LoL cos I swear Advanced Wars DS is a port of Advanced Wars,  Yoshis Island is a port of a Snes and GBA game, and Mario Kart  Ds is a port of - See where this logic is going :lol::

Well I really hope your comment was as much of a joke as mine. 

And none of the PSP's exclusive AA games are worth playing on a portable system, because they were designed for gameplay at home.mjarantilla