Skyrim is just Oblivion 2.0.texasgoldrush
Skyrim, in no way shape or form, is similar to Oblivion. Never compare it to that pile of cow sh!t.
Skyrim is the most overrated RPG ever made.....
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Because I admit that New Vegas's has bugs...like every BETHESDA game. In fact its hypocrisy. New Vegas gets slammed for its bugs, but Skyrim's are brushed off, whatever. Bethesda is just as bad as Obsidian...see Daggerfall.We're talking about Skyrim pal. New Vegas is plagued with completely game breaking bugs and awful design. More bugs and crashes in a main story than you'd see in the entirety of Skyrim. In fact in over 100 hours of Skyrim it never crashed to the desktop once, at worst I saw the mammoths spawning in midair, buggy physics, and a couple unbeatable quests.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Are you still talking? Hilarious. Skyrim is the better game too bad so sad.
Also New Vegas is crap much like all Obsidian games. Good story doesn't excuse abysmal QA. How can you talk about bugs in Skyrim as a flaw and then go on to praise the design of New Vegas?
Vaasman
Must hurt to know Skyrim got GOTY and Mass Effect 3 won't.
And what awful design does New Vegas have other than the bugs?texasgoldrushQuite a bit tbh. The enemy attack patterns, interior level design and interior technical framework of the engine, the wonky stealth system, the diluted 'hardcore' mode, the broken quest links, and of course - the horrendous introduction (be it from a writing or design angle). And I say that as someone who adored NV. It has a plethora of technical faults and design quirks, I can see why people love it and people loathed it.
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Skyrim is just Oblivion 2.0.ChubbyGuy40
Skyrim, in no way shape or form, is similar to Oblivion. Never compare it to that pile of cow sh!t.
Lets see.....level scaling, the big four gild quests, the daedric quests, the fast travel system, the city quests....face it, its the same. Compare Daggerfall to Morrowind, Morrowind to Oblivion......far more different than Oblivion to Skyrim.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]We're talking about Skyrim pal. New Vegas is plagued with completely game breaking bugs and awful design. More bugs and crashes in a main story than you'd see in the entirety of Skyrim. In fact in over 100 hours of Skyrim it never crashed to the desktop once, at worst I saw the mammoths spawning in midair, buggy physics, and a couple unbeatable quests.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Because I admit that New Vegas's has bugs...like every BETHESDA game. In fact its hypocrisy. New Vegas gets slammed for its bugs, but Skyrim's are brushed off, whatever. Bethesda is just as bad as Obsidian...see Daggerfall.texasgoldrush
Must hurt to know Skyrim got GOTY and Mass Effect 3 won't.
No, there IS plot stopping bugs with Skyrim...try again. Esbern for example. Nevermind that my game has crashed many times...more so than New Vegas. And what awful design does New Vegas have other than the bugs? Almost everything but graphics is better than Skyrim.God you are so mad. Look man ME3 wasn't everything it was cracked up to be time to move on.I'm sure the next Bioware game will be great. In fact they already said Dragon Age 3 has been inspired by Skyrim. What an awful game, so awful that Bioware will look to it for inspiration.
You can talk about New Vegas all you want but there is no one on Earth who would agree it was a better and more stable game than Skyrim, which I would say is as close to wrong as you can get with an opinion.
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]And what awful design does New Vegas have other than the bugs?skrat_01Quite a bit tbh. The enemy attack patterns, interior level design and interior technical framework of the engine, the wonky stealth system, the diluted 'hardcore' mode, the broken quest links, and of course - the horrendous introduction (be it from a writing or design angle). And I say that as someone who adored NV. It has a plethora of technical faults and design quirks, I can see why people love it and people loathed it. Also in Skyrim...all the above apply to Skyrim as well, save for the hardcore mode which is anything but diluted.
No, there IS plot stopping bugs with Skyrim...try again. Esbern for example. Nevermind that my game has crashed many times...more so than New Vegas. And what awful design does New Vegas have other than the bugs? Almost everything but graphics is better than Skyrim.God you are so mad. Look man ME3 wasn't everything it was cracked up to be time to move on.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]We're talking about Skyrim pal. New Vegas is plagued with completely game breaking bugs and awful design. More bugs and crashes in a main story than you'd see in the entirety of Skyrim. In fact in over 100 hours of Skyrim it never crashed to the desktop once, at worst I saw the mammoths spawning in midair, buggy physics, and a couple unbeatable quests.
Must hurt to know Skyrim got GOTY and Mass Effect 3 won't.
Vaasman
I'm sure the next Bioware game will be great. In fact they already said Dragon Age 3 has been inspired by Skyrim. What an awful game, so awful that Bioware will look to it for inspiration.
You can talk about New Vegas all you want but there is no one on Earth who would agree it was a better and more stable game than Skyrim, which I would say is as close to wrong as you can get with an opinion.
Oops, some posters here other than me already have said than New Vegas is better than Skyrim...wooops. No, ME3 is what its cracked up to be, featuring some of the genre's best character writing and the best use of a save import feature in gaming. Nevermind what could be its biggest flaw is getting fixed. And still, its a GOTY contender, easy.[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]And what awful design does New Vegas have other than the bugs?texasgoldrushQuite a bit tbh. The enemy attack patterns, interior level design and interior technical framework of the engine, the wonky stealth system, the diluted 'hardcore' mode, the broken quest links, and of course - the horrendous introduction (be it from a writing or design angle). And I say that as someone who adored NV. It has a plethora of technical faults and design quirks, I can see why people love it and people loathed it. Also in Skyrim...all the above apply to Skyrim as well, save for the hardcore mode which is anything but diluted. Going by critical reception and personal experience of buying both games on release I'd have to say no in terms of technicals - however aye, Skyrim does have a horrendous introduction and some wonkiness. So?
Also in Skyrim...all the above apply to Skyrim as well, save for the hardcore mode which is anything but diluted.texasgoldrush
No. Skyrim's Gamebryo evolved far beyond the bugfest that Oblivion's early Gamebryo had.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]God you are so mad. Look man ME3 wasn't everything it was cracked up to be time to move on.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] No, there IS plot stopping bugs with Skyrim...try again. Esbern for example. Nevermind that my game has crashed many times...more so than New Vegas. And what awful design does New Vegas have other than the bugs? Almost everything but graphics is better than Skyrim.texasgoldrush
I'm sure the next Bioware game will be great. In fact they already said Dragon Age 3 has been inspired by Skyrim. What an awful game, so awful that Bioware will look to it for inspiration.
You can talk about New Vegas all you want but there is no one on Earth who would agree it was a better and more stable game than Skyrim, which I would say is as close to wrong as you can get with an opinion.
Oops, some posters here other than me already have said than New Vegas is better than Skyrim...wooops. No, ME3 is what its cracked up to be, featuring some of the genre's best character writing and the best use of a save import feature in gaming. Nevermind what could be its biggest flaw is getting fixed. And still, its a GOTY contender, easy.What with Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 on the horizon you'll be lucky if it gets RPG of the Year. You can quote me now, Mass Effect 3 will not be game of the year. Keep it in your sig if you want. Skyrim is a better game than Mass Effect 3 and the critics agree. Tough noodles.Nevermind what could be its biggest flaw is getting fixed. And still, its a GOTY contender, easy.texasgoldrush
So? It shouldn't need fixing. Only websites as blind as IGN are going to nominate it.
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Nevermind what could be its biggest flaw is getting fixed. And still, its a GOTY contender, easy.ChubbyGuy40
So? It shouldn't need fixing. Only websites as blind as IGN are going to nominate it.
And Gamespot won't?...hell they defend the ending.Oops, some posters here other than me already have said than New Vegas is better than Skyrim...wooops. No, ME3 is what its cracked up to be, featuring some of the genre's best character writing and the best use of a save import feature in gaming. Nevermind what could be its biggest flaw is getting fixed. And still, its a GOTY contender, easy.What with Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 on the horizon you'll be lucky if it gets RPG of the Year. You can quote me now, Mass Effect 3 will not be game of the year. Keep it in your sig if you want. Skyrim is a better game than Mass Effect 3 and the critics agree. Tough noodles. Diablo III is more of the same, it will not win, just like Starcraft II. GW2 is just another MMO. ME3 will easily win RPG of the year, their is no real competition.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]God you are so mad. Look man ME3 wasn't everything it was cracked up to be time to move on.
I'm sure the next Bioware game will be great. In fact they already said Dragon Age 3 has been inspired by Skyrim. What an awful game, so awful that Bioware will look to it for inspiration.
You can talk about New Vegas all you want but there is no one on Earth who would agree it was a better and more stable game than Skyrim, which I would say is as close to wrong as you can get with an opinion.
Vaasman
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]What with Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 on the horizon you'll be lucky if it gets RPG of the Year. You can quote me now, Mass Effect 3 will not be game of the year. Keep it in your sig if you want. Skyrim is a better game than Mass Effect 3 and the critics agree. Tough noodles. Diablo III is more of the same, it will not win, just like Starcraft II. GW2 is just another MMO. ME3 will easily win RPG of the year, their is no real competition.God damn mad hahaha. Intense butt devestation from Bioware's recent givings I assume. I'm sure one day you'll get over it. Gonna love it once Dragon Age 3 is released and you downplay the success of DA2 and ME3.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Oops, some posters here other than me already have said than New Vegas is better than Skyrim...wooops. No, ME3 is what its cracked up to be, featuring some of the genre's best character writing and the best use of a save import feature in gaming. Nevermind what could be its biggest flaw is getting fixed. And still, its a GOTY contender, easy.texasgoldrush
however Dungeons are an absolutely monumental improvement and have some striking diversity in Skyrim, particularly in the aesthetic and architecture department.skrat_01
The biggest issue with Skyrim's dungeons is that it sends you to so many, and after 30 or 40 hours, it's really wears down and becomes extremely dull and boring. Nord dungeons are cool at first, but never, ever change after that. They only have 3 puzzles as well, which never change in how you solve them. Dwemer dungeons are dull in general, and take forever to get through them. It felt like those are suited for dungeon crawlers, but it doesn't have the proper loot system to sustain interest.
[QUOTE="skrat_01"]however Dungeons are an absolutely monumental improvement and have some striking diversity in Skyrim, particularly in the aesthetic and architecture department.ChubbyGuy40
The biggest issue with Skyrim's dungeons is that it sends you to so many, and after 30 or 40 hours, it's really wears down and becomes extremely dull and boring. Nord dungeons are cool at first, but never, ever change after that. Dwemer dungeons are dull in general, and take forever to get through them. It felt like those are suited for dungeon crawlers, but it doesn't have the proper loot system to sustain interest.
Yeah, that's the problem I have with the dungeon crawling. I really wanted unique reasons to go into them. There was enough diversity in the level design, but not enough in mission/reward variety.
Diablo III is more of the same, it will not win, just like Starcraft II. GW2 is just another MMO. ME3 will easily win RPG of the year, their is no real competition.God damn mad hahaha. Intense butt devestation from Bioware's recent givings I assume. I'm sure one day you'll get over it. Gonna love it once Dragon Age 3 is released and you downplay the success of DA2 and ME3. Then what is ME3's competition than?...Bioshock infinite is moved out of 2012. Really the only competition is ACIII. A well constructed extended cut only will improve its chances. Nevermind Bioshock won the most GOTY awards in 2007 with its questionable ending. And no I won't downplay the sucess of ME3 when DA3 is released, especially if they go back to repeating DAO flaws because the fans complain, especially with characters (at least they WILL bring back the talking protagonist and the rivalry/friendship system).[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]What with Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 on the horizon you'll be lucky if it gets RPG of the Year. You can quote me now, Mass Effect 3 will not be game of the year. Keep it in your sig if you want. Skyrim is a better game than Mass Effect 3 and the critics agree. Tough noodles.
Vaasman
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]God damn mad hahaha. Intense butt devestation from Bioware's recent givings I assume. I'm sure one day you'll get over it. Gonna love it once Dragon Age 3 is released and you downplay the success of DA2 and ME3. Then what is ME3's competition than?...Bioshock infinite is moved out of 2012. Really the only competition is ACIII. A well constructed extended cut only will improve its chances. Nevermind Bioshock won the most GOTY awards in 2007 with its questionable ending. And no I won't downplay the sucess of ME3 when DA3 is released, especially if they go back to repeating DAO flaws because the fans complain, especially with characters (at least they WILL bring back the talking protagonist and the rivalry/friendship system).Like I said. Quote me if you want.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Diablo III is more of the same, it will not win, just like Starcraft II. GW2 is just another MMO. ME3 will easily win RPG of the year, their is no real competition.texasgoldrush
Mass Effect 3 is not going to be game of the year.
[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]however Dungeons are an absolutely monumental improvement and have some striking diversity in Skyrim, particularly in the aesthetic and architecture department.FrozenLiquid
The biggest issue with Skyrim's dungeons is that it sends you to so many, and after 30 or 40 hours, it's really wears down and becomes extremely dull and boring. Nord dungeons are cool at first, but never, ever change after that. Dwemer dungeons are dull in general, and take forever to get through them. It felt like those are suited for dungeon crawlers, but it doesn't have the proper loot system to sustain interest.
Yeah, that's the problem I have with the dungeon crawling. I really wanted unique reasons to go into them. There was enough diversity in the level design, but not enough in mission/reward variety. Because once again, the poor leveling system...which insures you not so good gear and weak gold rewards.....nevermind that it doesn't level you up in itself unlike Fallout games.Then what is ME3's competition than?...Bioshock infinite is moved out of 2012. Really the only competition is ACIII. A well constructed extended cut only will improve its chances. Nevermind Bioshock won the most GOTY awards in 2007 with its questionable ending. And no I won't downplay the sucess of ME3 when DA3 is released, especially if they go back to repeating DAO flaws because the fans complain, especially with characters (at least they WILL bring back the talking protagonist and the rivalry/friendship system).Like I said. Quote me if you want.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]God damn mad hahaha. Intense butt devestation from Bioware's recent givings I assume. I'm sure one day you'll get over it. Gonna love it once Dragon Age 3 is released and you downplay the success of DA2 and ME3.
Vaasman
Mass Effect 3 is not going to be game of the year.
Then what will? Really the only thing that will keep ME3 from a great chance is that either a big suprise comes out or the extended cut isn't good.Yeah, that's the problem I have with the dungeon crawling. I really wanted unique reasons to go into them. There was enough diversity in the level design, but not enough in mission/reward variety.FrozenLiquid
Only uniqueness that the dungeons had were at the very end, which took forever to get to. Not even 40 hours in and I had the best gear I could get. For the 80 or so hours after that, I used nothing else. There wasn't any reason to go to dungeons for quests except to see what happened next. Gold and items were useless since...what was I going to do with it at that point?
[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] Yeah, that's the problem I have with the dungeon crawling. I really wanted unique reasons to go into them. There was enough diversity in the level design, but not enough in mission/reward variety.ChubbyGuy40
Only uniqueness that the dungeons had were at the very end, which took forever to get to. Not even 40 hours in and I had the best gear I could get. For the 80 or so hours after that, I used nothing else. There wasn't any reason to go to dungeons for quests except to see what happened next. Gold and items were useless since...what was I going to do with it at that point?
Really I had the mace of molag bal equipped nearly the entire game. I found nothing better for a long time.Then what will? Really the only thing that will keep ME3 from a great chance is that either a big suprise comes out or the extended cut isn't good.texasgoldrush
Diablo 3
The Last of Us
Guild Wars 2
Dota 2
Counter Strike: GO
Many unannounced Wii-U games
Hell maybe even Resident Evil 6.
There are so many games that are and will be better than ME3 this year. I don't even feel like listing them all. Hell even Dear Esther has a better chance.
Really I had the mace of molag bal equipped nearly the entire game. I found nothing better for a long time.texasgoldrush
That's either because you found it early and then went straight to the main quest and nothing else, or found it at the end.
EDIT: oh wait, I don't think it was one of the level scaling weapons, was it? I can't remember.
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Then what will? Really the only thing that will keep ME3 from a great chance is that either a big suprise comes out or the extended cut isn't good.ChubbyGuy40
Diablo 3
The Last of Us
Guild Wars 2
Dota 2
Counter Strike: GO
Many unannounced Wii-U games
Hell maybe even Resident Evil 6.
There are so many games that are and will be better than ME3 this year. I don't even feel like listing them all. Hell even Dear Esther has a better chance.
No, more of the same. Maybe has a chance. No No I love CS, but no chance in hell RE6....ummm no, especially if its another RE5. The closest competitor is Assassin;s Creed III.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Really I had the mace of molag bal equipped nearly the entire game. I found nothing better for a long time.ChubbyGuy40
That's either because you found it early and then went straight to the main quest and nothing else, or found it at the end.
No I found it 25% through my playthrough and kept it for a long time until deadric swords.No, more of the same.
Maybe has a chance.
No
No
I love CS, but no chance in hell
RE6....ummm no, especially if its another RE5.
The closest competitor is Assassin;s Creed III.texasgoldrush
More of the same? Please enlighten us how it's more of Diablo 1 and 2 when those fans won't stop complaining about how much it's changed.
Critics eat up Naughty God's games. It has a much better chance. It could even had a crappy ending and still be more eligible.
Better story, better graphics, better music, better gameplay. Another game with a far better chance.
More popular than all of Valve's titles and it's still in beta. Ohohohohoho it has a very high chance.
Only thing stopping this is if the reviewers are CS1.6 fanboys.
Assassin's Creed 3 will be good, no doubt. Only thing stopping it is if Ubisoft set it's goals too high and can't meet it.
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]
No, more of the same.
Maybe has a chance.
No
No
I love CS, but no chance in hell
RE6....ummm no, especially if its another RE5.
The closest competitor is Assassin;s Creed III.ChubbyGuy40
More of the same? Please enlighten us how it's more of Diablo 1 and 2 when those fans won't stop complaining about how much it's changed.
Critics eat up Naughty God's games. It has a much better chance. It could even had a crappy ending and still be more eligible.
Better story, better graphics, better music, better gameplay. Another game with a far better chance.
More popular than all of Valve's titles and it's still in beta. Ohohohohoho it has a very high chance.
Only thing stopping this is if the reviewers are CS1.6 fanboys.
Assassin's Creed 3 will be good, no doubt. Only thing stopping it is if Ubisoft set it's goals too high and can't meet it.
But still is just another dungeon hack and slash, the series was more inventive before but it will not establsih or innovate anything now. They didn;t gove Uncharted 3 too many gOTY awards. Perhaps its more of the same. Guild Wars 2 has no chance, sorry. Just because DOTA 2 is popular doesn't mean it'll win. Or the fact that CS GO is just an update And you forget why ME3 may win, because its a very emotional game with very strong characters, nevermind the effect of ending a series. And from some of these same reasons, ACIII has a big chance as well, more than almost anyone else. its the end of a series too. Bioshock Infinite, which I though WAS the favorite, moved out.
Signs of a stupid topic and a stupid opinion
- Topic made by texasgoldrush
- saying oblivion was better than skyrim (lol hell no)
- saying failout 3 bugvegas is better than skyrim
Skyrim had it's issues like bugs and the ps3 version was just bad, it was still a fun game, hell I put over 100 hours into it and I've yet to beat it, hell I've actually owned the ps3,pc and 360 versions.
Bethesda are too busy counting their money. You think they will listen to you? The only thing you're probably annoyed with like every other rant is the lack of prop variety and environmental diversity. Bethesda got their ass bent over and handed to rich publishers. They've learned a much quicker and easier method to get money. You should've knew it.
It is to spend most of the money on ads,cinematics,orchestra soundtracks,sponsors to overhype the console kiddies. You will always will get a limited number of sales if you're expecting them from mentally stable and developed grown humans who look up for their next upcoming games carefully.
PC gaming is dying with entire gaming itself. Get used to it and stop being condescending
[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]
No, more of the same.
Maybe has a chance.
No
No
I love CS, but no chance in hell
RE6....ummm no, especially if its another RE5.
The closest competitor is Assassin;s Creed III.texasgoldrush
More of the same? Please enlighten us how it's more of Diablo 1 and 2 when those fans won't stop complaining about how much it's changed.
Critics eat up Naughty God's games. It has a much better chance. It could even had a crappy ending and still be more eligible.
Better story, better graphics, better music, better gameplay. Another game with a far better chance.
More popular than all of Valve's titles and it's still in beta. Ohohohohoho it has a very high chance.
Only thing stopping this is if the reviewers are CS1.6 fanboys.
Assassin's Creed 3 will be good, no doubt. Only thing stopping it is if Ubisoft set it's goals too high and can't meet it.
But still is just another dungeon hack and slash, the series was more inventive before but it will not establsih or innovate anything now. They didn;t gove Uncharted 3 too many gOTY awards. Perhaps its more of the same. Guild Wars 2 has no chance, sorry. Just because DOTA 2 is popular doesn't mean it'll win. Or the fact that CS GO is just an update And you forget why ME3 may win, because its a very emotional game with very strong characters, nevermind the effect of ending a series. And from some of these same reasons, ACIII has a big chance as well, more than almost anyone else. its the end of a series too. Bioshock Infinite, which I though WAS the favorite, moved out.You can talk as much **** as you want those all have a good chance, more than ME3 I would say in some cases.And if you had been in the GW2 beta you would know it's not just another MMO and has a very solid chance at game of the year.
I am not saying my preferences are end all, but for what it tries to do, Skyrim is flawed because of the horrific leveling system.texasgoldrushNo you're citing preferences. Skyrim does a lot right, as well as plenty wrong. No one is saying it is without faults, however you focusing entirely on those and failing to see its strengths is a massive failure on your behalf. Which says more about your perception and values then the actual game.Your preference isn't the rule.
Indeed there is content burn out as far as I'm concerned in terms of level design - honestly I can understand why. Designing 40+ hours of dungeon content, keeping it original and able for players to stumble upon at any given time is absurdly difficult. Far from perfect indeed, but there's a wealth of good stuff on display.The biggest issue with Skyrim's dungeons is that it sends you to so many, and after 30 or 40 hours, it's really wears down and becomes extremely dull and boring. Nord dungeons are cool at first, but never, ever change after that. They only have 3 puzzles as well, which never change in how you solve them. Dwemer dungeons are dull in general, and take forever to get through them. It felt like those are suited for dungeon crawlers, but it doesn't have the proper loot system to sustain interest.
ChubbyGuy40
But still is just another dungeon hack and slash, the series was more inventive before but it will not establsih or innovate anything now.
They didn;t gove Uncharted 3 too many gOTY awards. Perhaps its more of the same.
Guild Wars 2 has no chance, sorry.
Just because DOTA 2 is popular doesn't mean it'll win.
Or the fact that CS GO is just an update
And you forget why ME3 may win, because its a very emotional game with very strong characters, nevermind the effect of ending a series. And from some of these same reasons, ACIII has a big chance as well, more than almost anyone else. its the end of a series too.texasgoldrush
Please continue to try and talk it down. Not just another hack and slash. This isn't Dungeon Siege 3.
Because TLoU is Uncharted 4, correct?
Has the best chance of any RPG this year since GS doesn't appear to enjoy WoW anymore. Wanna tell us how it's just another MMO now?
Not just popular, but leagues better than the other F2P MOBA games and it's still just in beta.
No, seriously, shut the hell up and quit talking.
Very dull game, no life in it's characters, one of the worst endings in recent years, choices don't matter, previous saves don't matter. Combat is terrible and so is the multiplayer.
Maybe it's the nostalgia speaking, but I honestly found Oblivion to be much more fun and interesting than Skyrim. Skyrim is just so... grey.001011000101101
IMO, anything that lets the rats at the very beginning of the game scale with your level is terrible and will never get any better. Nevermind the immense technicaly difficulties the game had.
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