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#1 TheMoreYouOwn
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Skyrim goes up against Dark Souls on GameTrailers bonus round.

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#2 calvinsora
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I don't think I'll be buying another Bethesda product anytime soon. So I'll be choosing Dark Souls many times over.

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#3 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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That's not fair. You're comparing two of the games I want the most. I'm just going to have to take and play both of them.

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#4 FlamesOfGrey
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The only fair ones are BF2 Vs. MW3 and the upcoming GEOW3 Vs. Uncharted 3 this Sunday. The Elder Scrolls is an well established franchise with a huge fanbase while Dark Souls is an insanely niche title. Demon's Souls even turned off alot of hardcore gamers with it's challenge and Dark Souls is supposed to be harder. Also the two games play very differently.
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#5 BigBoss255
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Thanks for the link. Anyway for me it's Skyrim all the way.
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#6 clone01
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Hmmm. Guess I'll have to go with both.

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#7 Basinboy
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Thread win for substantiave amount of awesome :D

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#8 ironcreed
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Both for me for what each will bring to the table. Nothing else will come close to either of them for me this year, except for maybe The Witcher 2 on the 360. It would not surprise me to see it get delayed until early next year, though.

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#9 ducati101
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Getting both, Skyrim on PC and Dark Souls on PS3 :)
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#10 TSNAKE617
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*Head asplodes*

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#11 CTR360
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getting both skyrim(360) dark souls (PS3&360) i cant wait for both gorgeous rpg games
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#12 padaporra
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I watched it yesterday and one of the guys said something very true: Game of Thrones will help Skyrim. I, for once, am only looking foward to it because of GoT... but the same goes for Dark Souls, they said the combat with sword/spear/shield is amazing and I really want a game with that. So I might get both, it will depend if they deliver or not.

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#13 caughtjoo
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Completely relevant that you need to wait for Bethesda to patch Skyrim. That being said, I will probably pick up Skyrim if it gets 33% on the steam sale, but would pick Dark Souls if it was on PC.
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#14 -Shooter-
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Definitively getting Dark Souls, Demon's Souls was one of my favorite games. Never played Elder Scrolls, so I don't know about Skyrim, but it does look great.

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#15 mrmusicman247
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Never played an Elder's Scrolls game. Never played Demon's Souls. But I'm leaning towards Skyrim.
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#16 PhazonBlazer
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I'll wait for Dark Souls to get a price drop. I'm probably getting Skyrim close to launch.

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#17 exiledsnake
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I agree that Game of Thrones making fantasy more mainstream will help Skyrim but also that multiple patches would be needed for Skyrim to be mostly playable. I think the question with Dark Souls is that will it be able to improve on Demon's Souls and judging by the previews and impressions, it seems that its on the way to being a great sequel.
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#18 Zero5000X
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I didn't really see the appeal of Demon's Souls. The gameplay was good and I liked the challenge, but it had no story, worthwhile characters, and I really didn't like how it handled multiplayer. I'd rather easily be able to jump in with a friend instead of jumping through hoops to get teamed up with the person I wanted to play with. I'm not the biggest Elder Scrolls fan, but Skyrim definitely looks good so I am going to go with that.
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#19 Elitro
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Dark Souls is the most anticipated game for me atm, but i'm going to enjoy playing both.

I do plan on completing DS with a friend this time thou, just hope the challenge will be the same :P!

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#20 WarTornRuston
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I am not a fan of RPG's so I will go to the one that will bore me the least. Skyrim. It is the first RPG I have seen since Windwaker (which I don't really count as an RPG), that I have some interest in. Thank God for Redbox. I wouldn't actually buy it new.
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#21 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Getting both. It's nice to have two great RPGs this year.

If HR delivers and TW2 is released this year, it will be very, very awesome.

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#22 ShadowDeathX
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Darks Souls on Day One Skyrim can wait....
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#23 finalstar2007
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Anyone got a link for the MW3 vs battlefield? :P.. i cant seem to make it work -_-

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#24 trollop_scat
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Dark Souls for me, easily. Bethesda games are great but kind of slow and plodding whereas you can die at alomst any time in Demons Souls, which made it constantly exciting...

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#25 Swift_Boss_A
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Dark Souls is going to run circles around Skyrim. While you guys are marrying your NPC's I'll be slaying a number of nasty demons 8)

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#26 -The-G-Man-
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A) Skyrim

B) Dark Souls

C) Buy them both because neither are ****ing exclusives

i'll go with C

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#27 Maroxad
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Going by developer history and what is known about both games.

Dark Souls 8.5/10
Skyrim 2.5/10

My personal hype level around both games.

Btw, Skyrim is more of an action adventure than an RPG, a lot of hardcore rpg fans are disappointed in skyrim, especially fans of Morrowind, Arena and Daggerfall. They are most likely right about Skyrim being buggy at release though.

Oh and there are way harder games this gen than Demons Souls, there have been plenty of cult hits (for instance, minecraft could be described as a cult game initially when it was released 2009), the multiplayer options in Demons Souls were either poorly designed or just backwards from what PC games have had for over a decade. There are also several games that also have the whole sword cant hit through walls before Demons Souls/Dark Souls, even action RPGs.

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#28 jwsoul
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That's not fair. You're comparing two of the games I want the most. I'm just going to have to take and play both of them.

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Same here to be honest.
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#29 PAL360
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I cant wait for both games but Skyrim is my most antecipated game this year. I believe it will be Game of the Year in most places also.

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#30 loosingENDS
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Withcer 2, Skyrim, Dark Souls

Xbox 360 wins

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#31 Maroxad
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Withcer 2, Skyrim, Dark Souls

Xbox 360 wins

loosingENDS

Age of Decadence, Eschalon Book 2, Soldak's Space RPG, Dead State, Grim Dawn, Chantelise and the best versions of Witcher 2 and Skyrim

PC wins

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Going by developer history and what is known about both games.

Dark Souls 8.5/10
Skyrim 2.5/10

My personal hype level around both games.

Btw, Skyrim is more of an action adventure than an RPG, a lot of hardcore rpg fans are disappointed in skyrim, especially fans of Morrowind, Arena and Daggerfall. They are most likely right about Skyrim being buggy at release though.

Oh and there are way harder games this gen than Demons Souls, there have been plenty of cult hits (for instance, minecraft could be described as a cult game initially when it was released 2009), the multiplayer options in Demons Souls were either poorly designed or just backwards from what PC games have had for over a decade. There are also several games that also have the whole sword cant hit through walls before Demons Souls/Dark Souls, even action RPGs.

Maroxad

How can they be disappointed in a game they have yet to play?

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#33 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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skyrim will be alot better imo
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#34 thatisfalse
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those games are nothing alike. sure, they kind of share the same genre, but... iono, they're insanely different.

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#35 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Going by developer history and what is known about both games.

Dark Souls 8.5/10
Skyrim 2.5/10

My personal hype level around both games.

Btw, Skyrim is more of an action adventure than an RPG, a lot of hardcore rpg fans are disappointed in skyrim, especially fans of Morrowind, Arena and Daggerfall. They are most likely right about Skyrim being buggy at release though.

Oh and there are way harder games this gen than Demons Souls, there have been plenty of cult hits (for instance, minecraft could be described as a cult game initially when it was released 2009), the multiplayer options in Demons Souls were either poorly designed or just backwards from what PC games have had for over a decade. There are also several games that also have the whole sword cant hit through walls before Demons Souls/Dark Souls, even action RPGs.

Jagged3dge

How can they be disappointed in a game they have yet to play?

They are disappointed in what they are hearing. They were hoping for something with more depth than Oblivion, instead they get the contrary. But others are underwhelmed or let down. As for me, the more I am hearing of Skyrim, the worse it seems.

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#36 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Going by developer history and what is known about both games.

Dark Souls 8.5/10
Skyrim 2.5/10

My personal hype level around both games.

Btw, Skyrim is more of an action adventure than an RPG, a lot of hardcore rpg fans are disappointed in skyrim, especially fans of Morrowind, Arena and Daggerfall. They are most likely right about Skyrim being buggy at release though.

Oh and there are way harder games this gen than Demons Souls, there have been plenty of cult hits (for instance, minecraft could be described as a cult game initially when it was released 2009), the multiplayer options in Demons Souls were either poorly designed or just backwards from what PC games have had for over a decade. There are also several games that also have the whole sword cant hit through walls before Demons Souls/Dark Souls, even action RPGs.

Maroxad

How can they be disappointed in a game they have yet to play?

They are disappointed in what they are hearing. They were hoping for something with more depth than Oblivion, instead they get the contrary.

didn't they say Skyrim on the PC would have a much better user interface and that the environments will remind people of morrowind?

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#37 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

They are disappointed in what they are hearing. They were hoping for something with more depth than Oblivion, instead they get the contrary.

lawlessx

didn't they say Skyrim on the PC would have a much better user interface and that the environments will remind people of morrowind?

They will have a seperate UI for the PC version? If so, I will need to change my sig. Environments look better than Oblivion for sure, but so far I am unimpressed by the environments I have seen so far. Maybe my standards are too high though. I have been awfully pessimistic and difficult to please since Civilization 5 (AKA Civilization Revolution 2).

The reason they are let down is because the game removes attributes, some skills (including my favorite, Athletics), merged leggings and chest slots, no classes and romances... something a lot of RPG gamers seem to hate with their guts.

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#38 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Skyrim will smash Dark Souls just because of the mods on the PC version. I can see Dark Souls winning if its just console versions though.

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#39 Shielder7
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Skyrim No online = make me sad..... Dark Souls online = :) It's a close call but Dark souls online won it for me Bethesdas refusal to do online cost them
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#40 Maroxad
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Skyrim No online = make me sad..... Dark Souls online = :) It's a close call but Dark souls online won it for me Bethesdas refusal to do online cost themShielder7

Skyrim not having online is a good thing. The mechanics are built around a single player experience anyway, so many things about skyrim would not translate well to online multiplayer.

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#41 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Darks Souls on Day One Skyrim can wait....

100% agreed with no online the only thing you're going to miss in Skyrim is playing without patches.
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#42 el3m2tigre
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i do plan on getting both. I'll probably get skyrim before dark souls.

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#43 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"]Skyrim No online = make me sad..... Dark Souls online = :) It's a close call but Dark souls online won it for me Bethesdas refusal to do online cost themMaroxad

Skyrim not having online is a good thing. The mechanics are built around a single player experience anyway, so many things about skyrim would not translate well to online multiplayer.

For you maybe not for me and a lot of great games that are built around a single player experience also have great multiplayer.
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#44 LazyMushroom
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It's gonna have to be Skyrim for me.

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#45 MercenaryMafia
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Skyrim!
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#46 VensInferno
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Dark Souls for me. I was considering Skyrim until I purchased Oblivion.... What a waste of 40 $ :?

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#47 xsubtownerx
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I'll be getting both so I don't really care.
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#48 dawso0n
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Daemon souls was amazing the gameplay darkworld/lightworld black/blue phantoms and the game was hard but for me that it, i put about 150 hours into demon souls completing NG+. Dark souls will be more of the same.

In oblivion i would just choose a direction and go, the feeling of being lost in this unknown world and everyplace you go is a new experience was something truely great, I must have put about 300+ into oblivion. Skyrim will be more of the same.

I'm with skyrim.

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#49 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]Skyrim No online = make me sad..... Dark Souls online = :) It's a close call but Dark souls online won it for me Bethesdas refusal to do online cost themShielder7

Skyrim not having online is a good thing. The mechanics are built around a single player experience anyway, so many things about skyrim would not translate well to online multiplayer.

For you maybe not for me and a lot of great games that are built around a single player experience also have great multiplayer.

While it is true that there are games with great SP and great MP. Skyrim would not be such a game. Do you understand why MP for Skyrim would be a problem? I will list out all the problems with a MP in an elder scrolls game.

  1. Level Design would be have to be designed to allow for more players
  2. Encounter design
  3. Lore, you are the last remaining Dragonborn, if you play MP where did those other Dragonborns come from?
  4. Radiant Story would be miles more difficult to program if it has to account for more than 1 player
  5. The game adjusts itself after your playstyle, this combined with level scalling
  6. The games moddable nature means there will be a lot of mod conflicts
  7. Bethesda games are in general, very buggy, if they add a MP mode that means less resources is spent on polishing up their game.
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#50 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Skyrim not having online is a good thing. The mechanics are built around a single player experience anyway, so many things about skyrim would not translate well to online multiplayer.

Maroxad

For you maybe not for me and a lot of great games that are built around a single player experience also have great multiplayer.

While it is true that there are games with great SP and great MP. Skyrim would not be such a game. Do you understand why MP for Skyrim would be a problem? I will list out all the problems with a MP in an elder scrolls game.

  1. Level Design would be have to be designed to allow for more players
  2. Encounter design
  3. Lore, you are the last remaining Dragonborn, if you play MP where did those other Dragonborns come from?
  4. Radiant Story would be miles more difficult to program if it has to account for more than 1 player
  5. The game adjusts itself after your playstyle, this combined with level scalling
  6. The games moddable nature means there will be a lot of mod conflicts
  7. Bethesda games are in general, very buggy, if they add a MP mode that means less resources is spent on polishing up their game.

1. Not if Multiplayer was seperate from single player they could have seperate mapes, lands quests for multiplayer like NWN or Two Worlds Two (which was the only part of that game that didn't suck).

2. See above

3. There are so many ways to get around this I don't know where to begin see above for starters they could take a page from Fable 3

4. Not really no see above for why

5. Not a problem if theres a level restriction to join your world or to join together

6. It worked well for NWN

7. Bethesda polishing up their games? Since when? Also under that logic no Video game should have multiplayer.