SM 3 bluray; death of HD dvd

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]Spider-Man 3 is trash. It had the biggest opening of the three movies, yet the lowest overall gross and fastest drop. Pathetic. Transformers came in only $18 million behind SM3, and will probably be even bigger than SM3 in DVD and HD-DVD sales because it's a better movie.-Jashan-

didnt sm3 get 600+mill budd?

it drop fast because everyone wanted to see it on its first day of release. of course its going to drop.

and with ur comment that i underlined, u can blame paramount for that stupid move

[QUOTE="SIP_YEK_NOD"]

system wars, not video format wars, GTFO

ps. transformers anyone?

pdias_92

lol BUT host said dont matter if Transformers better its cause SM 3 earned A LOT of $$$$$$$$$

It'll be interesting to see which movie earns the most in DVD sales. There are a lot of Spider Man fans out there that will buy this even though they didn't like it.

I picked up The Matrix Trilogy and I didn't really like 2 or 3. I just like 1 and felt like my collection would be incomplete.

We'll see how it turns out soon enough.

Spiderman 3 sucks hardcore.

Just so that people won't keep spouting dumb numbers:

Spider Man 3 (domestic Box Office): $336,530,303

Transformers (domestic Box Office): $318,781,032

Difference? 1.05%. Negligible.

So again, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out on the home video market.

Spiderman 3 sucks hardcore.

TheOwnerOner

AGAIN, this isnt about how good or bad spiderman is. SPIDERMAN SUCK TOPIC IS THAT WaAY

6x the quality of regular dvd. i guess thats ONE. i win

virtuas

[QUOTE="virtuas"]

6x the quality of regular dvd. i guess thats ONE. i win

HuusAsking

...which is part of the reason why DVD will probably win this format war.

Just so that people won't keep spouting dumb numbers:

Spider Man 3 (domestic Box Office): $336,530,303

Transformers (domestic Box Office): $318,781,032

Difference? 1.05%. Negligible.

So again, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out on the home video market.

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Spiderman 3 sucks hardcore.

virtuas

AGAIN, this isnt about how good or bad spiderman is. SPIDERMAN SUCK TOPIC IS THAT WaAY

Blu-ray movies vs HD DVD movies = take it to the AVS forum

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Spiderman 3 sucks hardcore.

virtuas

AGAIN, this isnt about how good or bad spiderman is. SPIDERMAN SUCK TOPIC IS THAT WaAY

It relates to people wanting to buy the Bluray

and having to go through the process of torturing themselves over again.

[QUOTE="virtuas"]

6x the quality of regular dvd. i guess thats ONE. i win

HuusAsking

my dad who is 64 yrs old with a thick LCD len for a glasses saw the diff. so i win

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

6x the quality of regular dvd. i guess thats ONE. i win

virtuas

my dad who is 64 yrs old with a thick LCD len for a glasses saw the diff. so i win

ownage approved....

and re-approved

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Just so that people won't keep spouting dumb numbers:

Spider Man 3 (domestic Box Office): $336,530,303

Transformers (domestic Box Office): $318,781,032

Difference? 1.05%. Negligible.

So again, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out on the home video market.

HuusAsking

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6180380.html?sid=6180380&action=convert

Halo 3 made almost as much in its first week as these movies made in their entire box office lifetime.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

6x the quality of regular dvd. i guess thats ONE. i win

virtuas

my dad who is 64 yrs old with a thick LCD len for a glasses saw the diff. so i win

You still live with him?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Just so that people won't keep spouting dumb numbers:

Spider Man 3 (domestic Box Office): $336,530,303

Transformers (domestic Box Office): $318,781,032

Difference? 1.05%. Negligible.

So again, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out on the home video market.

blazinpuertoroc

Don't know where to find those. I looked at imdb and didn't see any numbers. If you can find them, feel free. I simply posted what I found. It's not a conspiracy. Take your tinfoil hat off.

[QUOTE="virtuas"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Spiderman 3 sucks hardcore.

Big_Gamer_Al

blu ray inside of ps3 and xbox capable of playing hd dvd. TOO BAD. it stays. this is a good topic by the way. i am tired of halo this, halo that. change is good

AGAIN, this isnt about how good or bad spiderman is. SPIDERMAN SUCK TOPIC IS THAT WaAY

Blu-ray movies vs HD DVD movies = take it to the AVS forum

[QUOTE="virtuas"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

6x the quality of regular dvd. i guess thats ONE. i win

Big_Gamer_Al

my dad who is 64 yrs old with a thick LCD len for a glasses saw the diff. so i win

You still live with him?

not going to say my number age, but i am underage to vote or drink or gamble.

[QUOTE="darcom1"]

PRoN industry will decide the next format war winer...... just like they did whit VHS-beta war IMO

just wait for PRoN in HD

Dreams-Visions

Pr0n is already on HD DVD. But it doesn't matter like it did in the VHS-Beta era. In fact, it wasn't the only deciding factor in that war. Beta looked better but could only hold an hour or so of content. VHS was cheap and flexible.

As for teh Pr0n, many simply get that for free on the internet. It doesn't have the weight that it once did.

porn is going to play an important part in this format war a BIG one , again IMO, sure you have the Internet for porn, then again if you dont need HD-DVD or BD for Porn Movies you don't need it for regular movies to, just go to the Internet and download them "in the future we will have a lot of legal movies distribution over the Internet" so way bother on a format that is not going to last because of the virtual distribution...... NO people like to buy things they can hold and store fiscally .... so playboy magazine and many others are going to disappear to ? NEVER

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

1.) You're not familiar with the Blu-Ray profile 1.1 or 2.0 are you? The fact that early players will at bare minimum not be able to use some features...and depending on how it works out, 1.0 players that can't upgrade (firmware or software) will simply not be able to play new movies at all.

Dreams-Visions

Gotta love it. Your earlier points were about how blu-ray isn't selling enough stabd-alone players. That HD-DVD is accelling at it. Well, PS3 is blu-ray's main seller and it is upgradable, no?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="darcom1"]

PRoN industry will decide the next format war winer...... just like they did whit VHS-beta war IMO

just wait for PRoN in HD

darcom1

Pr0n is already on HD DVD. But it doesn't matter like it did in the VHS-Beta era. In fact, it wasn't the only deciding factor in that war. Beta looked better but could only hold an hour or so of content. VHS was cheap and flexible.

As for teh Pr0n, many simply get that for free on the internet. It doesn't have the weight that it once did.

porn is going to play an important part in this format war a BIG one , again IMO, sure you have the Internet for porn, then again if you dont need HD-DVD or BD for Porn Movies you don't need it for regular movies to, just go to the Internet and download them "in the future we will have a lot of legal movies distribution over the Internet" so way bother on a format that is not going to last because of the virtual distribution...... NO people like to buy things they can hold and store fiscally .... so playboy magazine and many others are going to disappear to ? NEVER

Agreed. But it won't have the final say. I doubt that industry would go exclusive in either direction. Maybe HD DVD since it's the cheapest option for consumers...but meh. I doubt it.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) You're not familiar with the Blu-Ray profile 1.1 or 2.0 are you? The fact that early players will at bare minimum not be able to use some features...and depending on how it works out, 1.0 players that can't upgrade (firmware or software) will simply not be able to play new movies at all.

The_Crucible

Gotta love it. Your earlier points were about how blu-ray isn't selling enough stabd-alone players. That HD-DVD is accelling at it. Well, PS3 is blu-ray's main seller and it is upgradable, no?

This argument is starting to make me cry like Brett Favre does

[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Transformers > Spiderman 3.Apathetic-Irony

i agree. spiderman plot was terrible( her turned emo for crying out loud)

I love when every nerd on the planet calls somebody who's depressed "emo". The love of his life leaves him, his best friend is out to kill him, and everything just seems to be going downhill for him, of course he's going to be upset. Unless he locked himself in his room, dressed up in all black, and played loud music about suicide for 90 hours a week. He does turn into a jackass with the black suit, but he sure as hell doesn't turn "emo".

He actually styled his fringe like my frickin' Emo brother does.

And unless every single nerd in my vicinity was at the same screening I was in (which I can assure you they were not, as the SM series is appealing to a massive audience), I think the majority also saw him as quite an Emo.

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

Dreams-Visions

spiderman wins.

spider sting, web ball, this one for M.J.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) You're not familiar with the Blu-Ray profile 1.1 or 2.0 are you? The fact that early players will at bare minimum not be able to use some features...and depending on how it works out, 1.0 players that can't upgrade (firmware or software) will simply not be able to play new movies at all.

The_Crucible

Gotta love it. Your earlier points were about how blu-ray isn't selling enough stabd-alone players. That HD-DVD is accelling at it. Well, PS3 is blu-ray's main seller and it is upgradable, no?

It absolutely is. The problem is that tracking and estimating the contribution of current and future sales from our PS3 community is that most are not buying consoles to play Blu-Ray movies. As such, *most* are not using the feature at all.

Contrast with 360 HD DVD stand-alones or regular stand-alone players. If you're buying one of those, it's specifically because you want to watch movies.

Again, 20:1 hardware advantage for Blu-Ray is only creating a 2:1 nextGen DVD sales advantage. The PS3 community is almost not contributing at all.

Fun factoid: 60% of PS3 owners don't know they've got Blu-Ray.

And again, look at the earlier link I provided from NetFlix.

So yea. Hard to figure out what the PS3 community--who by and large just wants to play games--will do. They're like Gollem in LoTR. ;)

[QUOTE="darcom1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="darcom1"]

PRoN industry will decide the next format war winer...... just like they did whit VHS-beta war IMO

just wait for PRoN in HD

Dreams-Visions

Pr0n is already on HD DVD. But it doesn't matter like it did in the VHS-Beta era. In fact, it wasn't the only deciding factor in that war. Beta looked better but could only hold an hour or so of content. VHS was cheap and flexible.

As for teh Pr0n, many simply get that for free on the internet. It doesn't have the weight that it once did.

porn is going to play an important part in this format war a BIG one , again IMO, sure you have the Internet for porn, then again if you dont need HD-DVD or BD for Porn Movies you don't need it for regular movies to, just go to the Internet and download them "in the future we will have a lot of legal movies distribution over the Internet" so way bother on a format that is not going to last because of the virtual distribution...... NO people like to buy things they can hold and store fiscally .... so playboy magazine and many others are going to disappear to ? NEVER

Agreed. But it won't have the final say. I doubt that industry would go exclusive in either direction. Maybe HD DVD since it's the cheapest option for consumers...but meh. I doubt it.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

virtuas

spiderman wins.

spider sting, web ball, this one for M.J.

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

[QUOTE="virtuas"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

Dreams-Visions

spiderman wins.

spider sting, web ball, this one for M.J.

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

dude why are u living in denial.?

starting tomrow blurayand ps3 become moremainstream with spiderman 3 inside a $399 ps3.

its lights out for 360 and HD DVD.

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

Dreams-Visions

If you were a male between 15-30.

Spider-man is appealing to pre-teen girls, or better yet, a lot more females in general because not only is Peter Parker/Tobey Maguire a teen heartthrob, the love story that goes on in the series is extremely appealing to them, whereas we look at the whole superhero side of things.

Although I appreciate Michael Bay's strict direction of a human focus to gain more audience members, it still really was a male-oriented film.

But Michael Bay and better film dont mix mate. That's pretty LOL.

But yeah I didn't like SM3 much either.

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="virtuas"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

springz300

spiderman wins.

spider sting, web ball, this one for M.J.

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

i didnt like both movies. i thought transformer was as bad as sm3

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) You're not familiar with the Blu-Ray profile 1.1 or 2.0 are you? The fact that early players will at bare minimum not be able to use some features...and depending on how it works out, 1.0 players that can't upgrade (firmware or software) will simply not be able to play new movies at all.

Dreams-Visions

Gotta love it. Your earlier points were about how blu-ray isn't selling enough stabd-alone players. That HD-DVD is accelling at it. Well, PS3 is blu-ray's main seller and it is upgradable, no?

It absolutely is. The problem is that tracking and estimating the contribution of current and future sales from our PS3 community is that most are not buying consoles to play Blu-Ray movies. As such, *most* are not using the feature at all.

Contrast with 360 HD DVD stand-alones or regular stand-alone players. If you're buying one of those, it's specifically because you want to watch movies.

Again, 20:1 hardware advantage for Blu-Ray is only creating a 2:1 nextGen DVD sales advantage. The PS3 community is almost not contributing at all.

Fun factoid: 60% of PS3 owners don't know they've got Blu-Ray.

And again, look at the earlier link I provided from NetFlix.

So yea. Hard to figure out what the PS3 community--who by and large just wants to play games--will do. They're like Gollem in LoTR. ;)

And once again you keep ignoring the final result. It doesn't matter if PS3 owners are each buying blu-ray movies. Just so long as more blu-ray movies are sold.

You also need to consider the growth of HDTV. As more PS3 owners get HDTV's their interest in blu-ray will dramatically increase. The stand-alone HD-DVD owners already, more than very likely, have HDTV's and their interest is as peaked as it will get.

[QUOTE="tacubano"]Just wait for the Lord of the Rings in HD-DVD....crush anything, also Titanic in HD-DVD...could sell tonsShockerD19

Lord of the Rings would also come to Blu-ray since it is New Line (Warner Bros.)

I wish they would release the extended editions in HD-DVD/Blu-Ray instead of just the theatrical version.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="virtuas"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

springz300

spiderman wins.

spider sting, web ball, this one for M.J.

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

dude why are u living in denial.?

starting tomrow blurayand ps3 become moremainstream with spiderman 3 inside a $399 ps3.

its lights out for 360 and HD DVD.

lol ooooook. so...when I call you on November 1st and the lights are still on, party still going strong, what will the excuse be? :)

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

FrozenLiquid

If you were a male between 15-30.

Spider-man is appealing to pre-teen girls, or better yet, a lot more females in general because not only is Peter Parker/Tobey Maguire a teen heartthrob, the love story that goes on in the series is extremely appealing to them, whereas we look at the whole superhero side of things.

Although I appreciate Michael Bay's strict direction of a human focus to gain more audience members, it still really was a male-oriented film.

But Michael Bay and better film dont mix mate. That's pretty LOL.

But yeah I didn't like SM3 much either.

True. The girls LOVED that emo movie. LOVED it. :?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

blazinpuertoroc

Fair enough. Blu-Ray is as good a bet as anything. Personally, I'd put mine on DVD.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) You're not familiar with the Blu-Ray profile 1.1 or 2.0 are you? The fact that early players will at bare minimum not be able to use some features...and depending on how it works out, 1.0 players that can't upgrade (firmware or software) will simply not be able to play new movies at all.

The_Crucible

Gotta love it. Your earlier points were about how blu-ray isn't selling enough stabd-alone players. That HD-DVD is accelling at it. Well, PS3 is blu-ray's main seller and it is upgradable, no?

It absolutely is. The problem is that tracking and estimating the contribution of current and future sales from our PS3 community is that most are not buying consoles to play Blu-Ray movies. As such, *most* are not using the feature at all.

Contrast with 360 HD DVD stand-alones or regular stand-alone players. If you're buying one of those, it's specifically because you want to watch movies.

Again, 20:1 hardware advantage for Blu-Ray is only creating a 2:1 nextGen DVD sales advantage. The PS3 community is almost not contributing at all.

Fun factoid: 60% of PS3 owners don't know they've got Blu-Ray.

And again, look at the earlier link I provided from NetFlix.

So yea. Hard to figure out what the PS3 community--who by and large just wants to play games--will do. They're like Gollem in LoTR. ;)

And once again you keep ignoring the final result. It doesn't matter if PS3 owners are each buying blu-ray movies. Just so long as more blu-ray movies are sold.

You also need to consider the growth of HDTV. As more PS3 owners get HDTV's their interest in blu-ray will dramatically increase. The stand-alone HD-DVD owners already, more than very likely, have HDTV's and their interest is as peaked as it will get.

your final could very well be true. But the fact of the matter is that it's all speculation and conjecture at this point. The market will decide...and as of today, the market officially has $200 nextGen DVD players available to them.

We'll all see what happens. Your stating "Teh Boo-Way will winz!" is no more factual than me saying DVD or HD DVD will win in the end.

The market will decide. That is the bottom line. The market has yet to move either way.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="virtuas"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

found the world-wide sales:

Spider Man 3 (global Box Office): $890,983,299 (62% of total intake from foreign sales)

Transformers (global Box Office): $702,376,570 (55% of total intake from foreign sales)

Difference? 1.26%

happy now, blazinpuertoroc? Basically the same % difference.

springz300

spiderman wins.

spider sting, web ball, this one for M.J.

lol.

1% isn't the biggest advantage I've seen. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the home video market. Will the market lean towards the better film, or will they look to complete their collections?

One thing is for sure: SM3 was a very polarizing film; either you liked it or you really didn't. Transformers...well...if you saw it, you probably loved it.

dude why are u living in denial.?

starting tomrow blurayand ps3 become moremainstream with spiderman 3 inside a $399 ps3.

its lights out for 360 and HD DVD.

anyway you spin it, blu-ray is outselling hd dvd, and it will continue to do so, actually its going to be an even bigger gap as more ps3 are put into more homes. and with the capacity of blu-ray its an obvious choice.

Shrek the Third will sell more than Spider-Man 3.

The DVD versions of both will sell far more than the HD versions, so this is a completely useless argument.

Shrek the Third will sell more than Spider-Man 3.

The DVD versions of both will sell far more than the HD versions, so this is a completely useless argument.

i_like_pizza

wat makes u think shrek will sell more than sm3. sm3 beat out sherk 3 in the box office. history will repeat itself. beside, shrek is in hd dvd. its been proven over and over that hd dvd movies cant beat blu ray movies in sales

[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Transformers > Spiderman 3.Apathetic-Irony

i agree. spiderman plot was terrible( her turned emo for crying out loud)

I love when every nerd on the planet calls somebody who's depressed "emo". The love of his life leaves him, his best friend is out to kill him, and everything just seems to be going downhill for him, of course he's going to be upset. Unless he locked himself in his room, dressed up in all black, and played loud music about suicide for 90 hours a week. He does turn into a jackass with the black suit, but he sure as hell doesn't turn "emo".

I guess you haven't seen his emo hair cut then?

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Transformers > Spiderman 3._Peoples_Champ_

i agree. spiderman plot was terrible( her turned emo for crying out loud)

I love when every nerd on the planet calls somebody who's depressed "emo". The love of his life leaves him, his best friend is out to kill him, and everything just seems to be going downhill for him, of course he's going to be upset. Unless he locked himself in his room, dressed up in all black, and played loud music about suicide for 90 hours a week. He does turn into a jackass with the black suit, but he sure as hell doesn't turn "emo".

I guess you haven't seen his emo hair cut then?

SPIDERMAN IS THE COOLEST EMO IN THE WORLD. only spideremo can pull it off

Transformers > Spiderman 3.Pro_wrestler

seconded.

Also, Bourne Ultimatum > Spiderman