SMG is incredibly overrated.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]the thing that SMG has over MGS4 and halo 3 is that EVERYONE loves it. it's impossible not to.taj7575

I think the only way to not love that game is if you have no soul.

exactly. that's why it has such GREAT reviews. not just some but all. like MGS4. 10/10 here, 92% average on metacritic. just show how to really dig MGS4you need to be into the previous ones... whereas with SMG it's just.... vazoom.

Games like Halo 3 and CoD4 are overrated. They don't do anything to distinguish themselves from their predecessors (Halo's forge/4 player Coop and CoD4's leveling system are not major improvements, especially when the latter can ultimately detract from the game, but that's due to it's poor matchmaking), nor do they do anything new for the genre.

A game doesn't need enough replay value to last you until the end of your life to be considered a great game. Too many people harp on multiplayer these days, sometimes to the extent that they forget what a great singleplayer experience is like. In the platforming genre, SMG does everything incredibly well and combines many gameplay elements as well as introduces new ones. SMG integrates the gravity into the core platforming gameplay so that it feels like it's a part of the game, unlike many "additions" (or gimmicks) that are apparent in many other games these days.
Saturos3091

Super Mario Galaxy is my favourite game this gen but I'm going to have to disagree with you there. My one problem with it is the larger galaxies like Beach Bowl and Gold Leaf. They weren't quite as, for a lack of better words, engaging, as say Bob-omb Battlefield back in Super Mario 64 nor were they quite as fun to explore unlike the rest of the galaxies.

Of course, it could be said that there should be variety in levels, some being calm while others are action-packed, so I can see why it was never brought up in any review I've seen, but nevertheless, there could've been one large one that was akin to Bob-omb Battlefield.

MGS4 is the most overrated game everFFXIII360

[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

IMO

I think the good Crash games were better than SMG..i always liked Crash better than Mario

IMO...

Pinkyimp

Have you even played it? I don't know how anyone who claims to be a gamer can say such a thing. SMG has so much class, where as Crash is just a hum drum excuse of a platformer.

Sorry.

well thats why its called an opinion...i dont care for mario..but i had more fun with crash...why is that so hard to understand...

ive played it and owned it and sold it..it wasent the second comeing that everyone made it out to be..it was ok...but i had more fun with crash

just my opinion dude...

I'm happy with opinions. I liked the first 2 Crash games and the first Rayman game, I also loved Bug. I help my son get through SMG and think it's well deserving of its 9.5 and GOTY award.

[QUOTE="FFXIII360"]MGS4 is the most overrated game everMike885

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots was released in 2008 (And right now it's 2008.) while Halo 3 was released in 2007...

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Games like Halo 3 and CoD4 are overrated. They don't do anything to distinguish themselves from their predecessors (Halo's forge/4 player Coop and CoD4's leveling system are not major improvements, especially when the latter can ultimately detract from the game, but that's due to it's poor matchmaking), nor do they do anything new for the genre.

A game doesn't need enough replay value to last you until the end of your life to be considered a great game. Too many people harp on multiplayer these days, sometimes to the extent that they forget what a great singleplayer experience is like. In the platforming genre, SMG does everything incredibly well and combines many gameplay elements as well as introduces new ones. SMG integrates the gravity into the core platforming gameplay so that it feels like it's a part of the game, unlike many "additions" (or gimmicks) that are apparent in many other games these days.
Technoweirdo

Super Mario Galaxy is my favourite game this gen but I'm going to have to disagree with you there. My one problem with it is the larger galaxies like Beach Bowl and Gold Leaf. They weren't quite as, for a lack of better words, engaging, as say Bob-omb Battlefield back in Super Mario 64 nor were they quite as fun to explore unlike the rest of the galaxies.

Of course, it could be said that there should be variety in levels, some being calm while others are action-packed, so I can see why it was never brought up in any review I've seen, but nevertheless, there could've been one large one that was akin to Bob-omb Battlefield.

[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

IMO

I think the good Crash games were better than SMG..i always liked Crash better than Mario

IMO...

Pinkyimp

Have you even played it? I don't know how anyone who claims to be a gamer can say such a thing. SMG has so much class, where as Crash is just a hum drum excuse of a platformer.

Sorry.

well thats why its called an opinion...i dont care for mario..but i had more fun with crash...why is that so hard to understand...

ive played it and owned it and sold it..it wasent the second comeing that everyone made it out to be..it was ok...but i had more fun with crash

just my opinion dude...

However there aren't many 3D platformers that could top Rayman 2. That game was just great.

yeah, i think the SMG is overrated, did not deserve gun of the year one bit!

the shotgun is much better IMO!

Wow why are you people so ignorant? Read through all my posts. I like platformers, I even like SMG. I just don't think it deserved GOTY or all the praise it's getting :?

ChrnoTrigger

sheep don't like teh insults, and yes they consider 'smg is not goty material but a very good game' an insult. remember yahtzee and smash, sums up why they are called sheep.

You were expecting an epic story from a Mario platformer?air_wolf_cubed

Gotta agree with him there. The primary objectives have always been:

1. Rescue Peach/kick Bowser's butt

2. Survive so you can do so

[QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

I'm honestly baffled at how much praise SMG gets. I rented the game sometime in december of 07 and while I liked it, it did not deserve a 9.5 or GOTY.

Platforming elements were good and it was funbut it just didn't have the quality of a GOTY. How the heck did it get GOTY when games like CoD4 and Halo 3 came out?

The story was almost non-existant and collecting stars just got tedious after a while. Damn, what did I miss that you guys had so much fun with that you made you make outrageous claims such as "It deserved a 10 like mgs4 and gta4!"?

stepat201

= GOTY

Huh. So I guess any game that pulls off it's main elements well and is also fun = GOTY?

what you want more from a game if not fun ?

its my personal goty like many many more game on other platforms ! if you like it its GOTY for you.

for me its just funny that some people need others too say what is goty and what is not and those people are unhappy if there favorite game dont get GOTY :P

in short

game that makes fun too play = GOTY for me)

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]You were expecting an epic story from a Mario platformer?Shadow_of_Kirby

Gotta agree with him there. The primary objectives have always been:

1. Rescue Peach/kick Bowser's butt

2. Survive so you can do so

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

How the heck did it get GOTY when games like CoD4 and Halo 3 came out?

Paleo_Orca

Your credibility ended there. Exactly how long have you been gaming?

And the story was very... meh.

ChrnoTrigger

Since when did Mario platformers have a good story? Actually SMG story was a lot better then the other Mario platformers. But seriously Mario Platformers were never meant to have epic stories or something like that.

IMO

I think the good Crash games were better than SMG..i always liked Crash better than Mario

IMO...

Pinkyimp

One, SMG deserved GOTY in every way shape and form. It was an incredible game.

Two, you don't deserve to have Chrono Trigger as your name. No way.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Not being a shooter =/= a bad game. I had a lot more fun with it than pretty much any other game this gen.HarlockJC

Shooters are all that matters :roll:

just because it isn't a shooter doesn't make it "original" or "innovative"

imo smg was alright for a few weeks but it got old quick and without a story (in my opinion one of the biggest factors of making a game great) was nonexistent.

COD4 and Halo 3 were both games I forgot about 3 minutes after I played them while Galaxy was a beautiful console game.

Im guessing you played both COD4 and HALO3 on a console. To me mario galaxy is much better than any fps on any console, COD4 on the pc was ok but nothing special in the end.

its a great platformer. its score is based on the platformer genre. if youre not into that genre, then its score might confuse you...

all the score says is that for a platformer, it is considered by many to be the cream of the crop.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

How the heck did it get GOTY when games like CoD4 and Halo 3 came out?

Paleo_Orca

Your credibility ended there. Exactly how long have you been gaming?

Super Mario Galaxy didn't deserve that GoTY award.thrones

heh. no matter what game got GOTY, somebody always has to say that it didnt deserve it. no GOTY (or any game for that matter) is ever gonna appeal to everyone...

It's amazing from what I played so far. I understand why people love it so much.Aljosa23

It's quite funny actually, whilst playing the game I thought, "Wow this is really good fun" Then once I completed it I was like meh kind of bored now so I sold it. But then I played it again at my friends house, and realised "I wish I hadn't sold this", because it's one of those games you want to complete every few months just because of how fresh it all feels. I might actually rebuy it if I can get it for a decent price.

It was a typical Mario game. Fun and annoying but nothing really new. You are correct, I don't own that laughable Wii but did play it at a friend's house before he sold the Wii.Sins-of-Mosin

The fact that you say SMG is overrated then say that Cod4 and Halo 3 aren't proves you have terrible taste. Listen, I don't think, in term of actual rating (on this scale at least), that any of these games are overrated. I think that, in terms of reception by the gamers themselves, CoD4 is outrageously overrated. the fact that people would ACTUALLY consider it one of the finest this gen seriously indicated that peoples tastes are extremely shallow. Bad AI, poor level design, short campaign. But because it's highly cinematic, crowds drool over it. What happened to depth?

Oh crap, I went off on my CoD4 rant again:oops:

TC lost his credibility when he bashed the story of a platformer..

According to this one guy at insomniac games, he basically implied that SMG was only worth playing once, super mario world (SNES) on the other hand was one of the best games and platformers ever.munu9

Super Mario World was awesome :D

I actually agree with TC. SMG has been a huge disappointment to me and I really don't think it deserved all the praise it got. Maybe 3d mario games just aren't for me. I've never really cared much for any of the 3d mario games. The old 2d ones are awesome though :)

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

How the heck did it get GOTY when games like CoD4 and Halo 3 came out?

Paleo_Orca

Your credibility ended there. Exactly how long have you been gaming?

what's wrong with what he said. I have beaten SMG twice and got bored.

I am still playing COD4 and halo 3 on live (and so are 300,000 people at any given time).

[QUOTE="Paleo_Orca"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

How the heck did it get GOTY when games like CoD4 and Halo 3 came out?

elite_ferns1

Your credibility ended there. Exactly how long have you been gaming?

what's wrong with what he said. I have beaten SMG twice and got bored.

I am still playing COD4 and halo 3 on live (and so are 300,000 people at any given time).

I bought it a while ago, and haven't really scratched the surface of it, but i don't think i'm going to enjoy it as much as everyone else has. It's not often i buy a game and don't play it much.

Then again, i haven't really enjoyed Mario since he went 3D. Funnily enough, though, i think Banjo-Kazooie is the best platformer ever made, and it plays quite similairly to Mario 64.

I also agree with the poster who said the old Crash games are really good. Crash 1 -3 are right behind Banjo IMO.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

IMO

I think the good Crash games were better than SMG..i always liked Crash better than Mario

IMO...

Pinkyimp

When was the last time you played a crash game. They have not been good in ages.

no no no not the new crap...i mean the old PS1 games..warped, CTR, CB:2 those one i loved

Omg Same here!

I own every Crash Bandicoot game on PS1 and would of owned every crash game on Ps2 if Naughtydog carried on making it

I'm honestly baffled at how much praise SMG gets. I rented the game sometime in december of 07 and while I liked it, it did not deserve a 9.5 or GOTY.

Platforming elements were good and it was fun but it just didn't have the quality of a GOTY. How the heck did it get GOTY when games like CoD4 and Halo 3 came out?

The story was almost non-existant and collecting stars just got tedious after a while. Damn, what did I miss that you guys had so much fun with that you made you make outrageous claims such as "It deserved a 10 like mgs4 and gta4!"?

ChrnoTrigger

Thats your opinion. Opinion =/= Fact. Deal with it!

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

IMO

I think the good Crash games were better than SMG..i always liked Crash better than Mario

IMO...

fabz_95

When was the last time you played a crash game. They have not been good in ages.

no no no not the new crap...i mean the old PS1 games..warped, CTR, CB:2 those one i loved

Omg Same here!

I own every Crash Bandicoot game on PS1 and would of owned every crash game on Ps2 if Naughtydog carried on making it

Yeah I had Crash for the PS1 too. BTW why didn't Naugtydog carry on making it?