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#1 gsx1100
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Somethings seriously wrong here.
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#2 aDDiKt24
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So according to your cow logic:

THPS3 > Every game reviewed on GS
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kameo,pgr3,doa4>>>>>>>>98% of ps3 games according to gamespot
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#4 gsx1100
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So according to your cow logic:

THPS3 > Every game reviewed on GS
aDDiKt24
That THPS3 score just shows how wrong Gamespot can get it sometimes. Just like they did with this VF5 score.
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#5 amourkiss
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Somethings seriously wrong here.
gsx1100

indeed, what's wrong with them?

even DoA is create base on VF's technology (SEGA was tech supporting Tecmo when they create DoA)

DoA4 is beautiful, but VF5 clearly is sharper and should at least score 9 or above for its graphic, and score at least 8.8 overally

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I wish they would post multiple reviews like mags (GI and EGM). because some of the scores are just plain wonkey
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#7 guch20
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It's obvious that the review had his ass handed to him by the A.I. and took it out on the score.
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#8 MasterBeebo
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stop crying...

Jeez that some people actually thought GS was a good review site after 2006...

Amazing for believing in these failure reviewers yet again -_-'

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DOA has more content than VF5. VF5 is lucky it got what it did.
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#10 danneswegman
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no, Vf5 wasn't there when DOA4 came out. you must concider the time factor too... if they were released in the same time, the score might have been different.
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[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]DOA has more content than VF5. VF5 is lucky it got what it did.Ghetto_Kid
Spoken like a true n00b. You probably just a fat as Gerstmann,anything that takes a little effort and commitment looses points.You'd probably start sweating if you tried playing VF. Stick to your button masher.

Is Smash a button masher?
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#13 flipknoc
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i like how the reviewer says that VF5 builds upon VF4 with new moves and characters, making for a great sequel, but vf4 got a 9.3.

so vf5 is an improvement from vf4, but it gets a lower score? wtf:?

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#14 11Marcel
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i like how the reviewer says that VF5 builds upon VF4 with new moves and characters, making for a great sequel, but vf4 got a 9.3.

so vf5 is an improvement from vf4, but it gets a lower score? wtf:?

flipknoc
I think they may have expected more of a next gen fighting game. Bars are raised all the time. It's up to the developers to keep up with it.
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[QUOTE="danneswegman"]no, Vf5 wasn't there when DOA4 came out. you must concider the time factor too... if they were released in the same time, the score might have been different.

Well maybe you forget all those lovely preview vids Sony showed of Vfs. Like alot of early 360 games, they were compared to that. PS3 are really feeling the scores now, becuase they overpromised on their power. What was it 2-3 times. I said it then and I say it now, the PS3 games should be looking 2-3 times as better then the 360 games, otherwise they should always score lower. Just like the Wii games should be docked points when it doesnt use the remote in any other way that a standard controller can be used. I say this because in both cases this is the biggest selling point of their console. It also is the points that have stopped people from buying other consoles to a degree. The same way a game on 360, maybe get docked points, because he online presentation isnt up to par or it doesnt really have much or any online if at all. VF5 scores in other places are like the Zelda scores. Too many fanbois cant review their fav games without being biased towards them. Blinds them from thier faults and let to many things slip by. The DOA series never had the fan base that niether Tekken or VF has.
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i like how the reviewer says that VF5 builds upon VF4 with new moves and characters, making for a great sequel, but vf4 got a 9.3.

so vf5 is an improvement from vf4, but it gets a lower score? wtf:?

flipknoc
If you dont understand, you never will so just give up. This isnt the PS2 generation, where teh PS2 could get away with that so much. To all you button masher screams out there. I will just say this GOW2:Extreme button masher and look at its scores.
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#17 flipknoc
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[QUOTE="flipknoc"]i like how the reviewer says that VF5 builds upon VF4 with new moves and characters, making for a great sequel, but vf4 got a 9.3.

so vf5 is an improvement from vf4, but it gets a lower score? wtf:?

ps3-nikita
If you dont understand, you never will so just give up. This isnt the PS2 generation, where teh PS2 could get away with that so much. To all you button masher screams out there. I will just say this GOW2:Extreme button masher and look at its scores.



vf5 and gow2.  different genres.  sorry.

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#18 FearlessSpirit
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He was generous with the score.

Lack of single player variety and no online play pretty much should have brought the value down to a 6 at best. Yet he gave it a 7.
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well, looks like Imma have to wait and see what the 360 version gets.
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#20 gsx1100
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He was generous with the score.

Lack of single player variety and no online play pretty much should have brought the value down to a 6 at best. Yet he gave it a 7.
FearlessSpirit

I f you played any version of VF you would know that isn't true.All the chracters in VF are completly different,even Jacky/Sarah amd Lau/Pai who have similar fighting forbidden>
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[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="danneswegman"]no, Vf5 wasn't there when DOA4 came out. you must concider the time factor too... if they were released in the same time, the score might have been different.

Well maybe you forget all those lovely preview vids Sony showed of Vfs. Like alot of early 360 games, they were compared to that. PS3 are really feeling the scores now, becuase they overpromised on their power. What was it 2-3 times. I said it then and I say it now, the PS3 games should be looking 2-3 times as better then the 360 games, otherwise they should always score lower. Just like the Wii games should be docked points when it doesnt use the remote in any other way that a standard controller can be used. I say this because in both cases this is the biggest selling point of their console. It also is the points that have stopped people from buying other consoles to a degree. The same way a game on 360, maybe get docked points, because he online presentation isnt up to par or it doesnt really have much or any online if at all. VF5 scores in other places are like the Zelda scores. Too many fanbois cant review their fav games without being biased towards them. Blinds them from thier faults and let to many things slip by. The DOA series never had the fan base that niether Tekken or VF has.

A game should be judged on its merits, not the console it is on. Thus your point is redundent.
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[QUOTE="danneswegman"]no, Vf5 wasn't there when DOA4 came out. you must concider the time factor too... if they were released in the same time, the score might have been different.ps3-nikita
Well maybe you forget all those lovely preview vids Sony showed of Vfs. Like alot of early 360 games, they were compared to that. PS3 are really feeling the scores now, becuase they overpromised on their power. What was it 2-3 times. I said it then and I say it now, the PS3 games should be looking 2-3 times as better then the 360 games, otherwise they should always score lower. Just like the Wii games should be docked points when it doesnt use the remote in any other way that a standard controller can be used. I say this because in both cases this is the biggest selling point of their console. It also is the points that have stopped people from buying other consoles to a degree. The same way a game on 360, maybe get docked points, because he online presentation isnt up to par or it doesnt really have much or any online if at all. VF5 scores in other places are like the Zelda scores. Too many fanbois cant review their fav games without being biased towards them. Blinds them from thier faults and let to many things slip by. The DOA series never had the fan base that niether Tekken or VF has.

I don't know what you're talking about. VF5 looks amazing. Especially considering it is basically a launch game. You cannot compare 360 and PS3 at this point. Too ealry in the PS3's life to judge it. Also, way too much emphasis is being placed on online play. Online should be an added feature, not the main attraction.

Game scores are one persons OPINION. You should take them with a grain of salt and form your own opinion AFTER you play the game.

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#23 trasherhead
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that cause they are all sexist guys who gets off by looking at the bouncing breasts and don't care about the game play.
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#24 Heri012
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GS love DOA4  so much coz all female fighters in DOA4 have BIG BREAST and have a HENTAI STYLE on it......If Tekken 6 got below 9.00 score I will not visit GS anymore.....
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#25 shungokustasu
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So according to your cow logic:

THPS3 > Every game reviewed on GS
aDDiKt24
That don't make sense. It's only fair to compare a Fighter with a FIGHTER. Not a Genre to all Genre.
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#26 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="aDDiKt24"]So according to your cow logic:

THPS3 > Every game reviewed on GS
shungokustasu
That don't make sense. It's only fair to compare a Fighter with a FIGHTER. Not a Genre to all Genre.



Not only that but standards change considerably in 6 years
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#27 Timstuff
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This is just plain moronic. I am starting to loose faith in Jeff. Sheep, I finally understand why you hated him so much when he flopped Zelda TP. The man truly is a black sheep, rogue missile, or whatever you want to call him.
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#28 shungokustasu
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This is just plain moronic. I am starting to loose faith in Jeff. Sheep, I finally understand why you hated him so much when he flopped Zelda TP. The man truly is a black sheep, rogue missile, or whatever you want to call him.Timstuff
Don't blame Jeff. It's his opinion. He's doing a job, and I know we will disagree with him sometimes, but in the end only your opinion counts.
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[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="danneswegman"]no, Vf5 wasn't there when DOA4 came out. you must concider the time factor too... if they were released in the same time, the score might have been different.mazdero

Well maybe you forget all those lovely preview vids Sony showed of Vfs. Like alot of early 360 games, they were compared to that. PS3 are really feeling the scores now, becuase they overpromised on their power. What was it 2-3 times. I said it then and I say it now, the PS3 games should be looking 2-3 times as better then the 360 games, otherwise they should always score lower. Just like the Wii games should be docked points when it doesnt use the remote in any other way that a standard controller can be used. I say this because in both cases this is the biggest selling point of their console. It also is the points that have stopped people from buying other consoles to a degree. The same way a game on 360, maybe get docked points, because he online presentation isnt up to par or it doesnt really have much or any online if at all. VF5 scores in other places are like the Zelda scores. Too many fanbois cant review their fav games without being biased towards them. Blinds them from thier faults and let to many things slip by. The DOA series never had the fan base that niether Tekken or VF has.

I don't know what you're talking about. VF5 looks amazing. Especially considering it is basically a launch game. You cannot compare 360 and PS3 at this point. Too ealry in the PS3's life to judge it. Also, way too much emphasis is being placed on online play. Online should be an added feature, not the main attraction.

Game scores are one persons OPINION. You should take them with a grain of salt and form your own opinion AFTER you play the game.

The PS3 should be compared to the 360 after all Sony was bragging how much more powerful of a machine that it is. Remember when the original Xbox launched it was more powerful and it proved it from day 1 against the PS2.

Also about the online, any fighting game that is released this Gen. should have online. People don't have strangers coming over to their house to play games and the best part of fighting games is taking on a variety of compation 

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well doa4 does pwn virtua fighter 5
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I can understand most of the scores, like a 7 in sound, but gameplay 8? Is that what you get for being one of the deepest and most well balanced fighters in the genre?
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kameo,pgr3,doa4>>>>>>>>98% of ps3 games according to gamespotwiistation360
Does PS3 have a game that scored over 8.6?
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8.1 seemed generous to me.

No online play for a next-gen multiplayer game would have killed the score for me.

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#34 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="mazdero"]

[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="danneswegman"]no, Vf5 wasn't there when DOA4 came out. you must concider the time factor too... if they were released in the same time, the score might have been different.-Super-Fly-

Well maybe you forget all those lovely preview vids Sony showed of Vfs. Like alot of early 360 games, they were compared to that. PS3 are really feeling the scores now, becuase they overpromised on their power. What was it 2-3 times. I said it then and I say it now, the PS3 games should be looking 2-3 times as better then the 360 games, otherwise they should always score lower. Just like the Wii games should be docked points when it doesnt use the remote in any other way that a standard controller can be used. I say this because in both cases this is the biggest selling point of their console. It also is the points that have stopped people from buying other consoles to a degree. The same way a game on 360, maybe get docked points, because he online presentation isnt up to par or it doesnt really have much or any online if at all. VF5 scores in other places are like the Zelda scores. Too many fanbois cant review their fav games without being biased towards them. Blinds them from thier faults and let to many things slip by. The DOA series never had the fan base that niether Tekken or VF has.

I don't know what you're talking about. VF5 looks amazing. Especially considering it is basically a launch game. You cannot compare 360 and PS3 at this point. Too ealry in the PS3's life to judge it. Also, way too much emphasis is being placed on online play. Online should be an added feature, not the main attraction.

Game scores are one persons OPINION. You should take them with a grain of salt and form your own opinion AFTER you play the game.

The PS3 should be compared to the 360 after all Sony was bragging how much more powerful of a machine that it is. Remember when the original Xbox launched it was more powerful and it proved it from day 1 against the PS2.

Also about the online, any fighting game that is released this Gen. should have online. People don't have strangers coming over to their house to play games and the best part of fighting games is taking on a variety of compation

Online with VF is currently a technical impossibility at the time due to lag on current internet technology. VF4 with no online > no VF4 at all. Stop holding this up like it's a legitimate reason for such a low score, because it's not. Jeff gave DOA4 a better score because it has bouncy hentai chicks, and VF4 doesn't. End of story.
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#35 Doomshine
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Jeff gave DOA4 a better score because it has bouncy hentai chicks, and VF4 doesn't. End of story.Timstuff


Greg reviewed DOA4, he also reviewed VF4.
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#36 console_fanboy
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yes u r right. ANd also 360 VF5 version > PS3 VF5 version.
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#37 nickmag
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good graphics =/= good game no idea as to why virtua fighter is rated less
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]kameo,pgr3,doa4>>>>>>>>98% of ps3 games according to gamespotpins_basic
Does PS3 have a game that scored over 8.6?

rfom.all the 360 games i listed scored 8.8
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[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]DOA has more content than VF5. VF5 is lucky it got what it did.Ghetto_Kid
Spoken like a true n00b. You probably just a fat as Gerstmann,anything that takes a little effort and commitment looses points.You'd probably start sweating if you tried playing VF. Stick to your button masher.



Worst comeback ever.
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#40 tag_001
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DOA 4 has online wich makes the replay value at least a 100X better and the game more enjoyable at the same time.

That's where VF5 lost alot of points IMO, without online and a pretty basic SP and AI your pretty much left out to find some friends who own the game and practice at it to have some fun with it.
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#41 Dups79
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If you actually read the review you realize that he points out the flaws that he finds important. No online.... as soon as I heard this I thought to myself. Well I won't be able to play this game with my friend that lives 8 hours away. He is my gaming friend and we always game together. We both laughed and said... well... We wont be buying this game. Seriously, AI can only go so far. What seperates this game from any other fighter? What originial idea do they have? Yes they have a realistic fighting engine but it's nothing that blows other fighters out of the water. The player AI mode? Well, that's trying to compensate for the lack of online play and it is shallow.
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#42 rockydog1111
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GS scores are the worst ever, I only come here for the Forums.
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#43 solidte
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Eh whatever both games are great nonetheless but DOA had the upper hand with online and seriously the Virtua Fighter series needs to start using new sound effects.
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#44 tacomh
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as times progress the reviews get harder, they expect more from next gen
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#45 nyoroism
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Why does everyone call DOA4 a button-masher? Sure, you can mash buttons, but you will be severely beaten very quickly. You can't button mash in that game and expect to win against someone unless that someone has 0 experience with the game.
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#46 osusfaith
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I hope this finally lets people realize no-online in a next gen fighter IS NOT ACCEPTABLE Make it work devs....SOMEHOW....make it work. You hear this Namco?!
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#47 Blackbond
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This is just plain moronic. I am starting to loose faith in Jeff. Sheep, I finally understand why you hated him so much when he flopped Zelda TP. The man truly is a black sheep, rogue missile, or whatever you want to call him.Timstuff


Yet you were one of the first to praise Jeff claiming good I'm glad he didn't give it AAA and just follow everyone else's opinion. Zelda TP deserved what it got. So how's it feel to be in the same boat as the sheep now?
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#48 osusfaith
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]This is just plain moronic. I am starting to loose faith in Jeff. Sheep, I finally understand why you hated him so much when he flopped Zelda TP. The man truly is a black sheep, rogue missile, or whatever you want to call him.Blackbond


Yet you were one of the first to praise Jeff claiming good I'm glad he didn't give it AAA and just follow everyone else's opinion. Zelda TP deserved what it got. So how's it feel to be in the same boat as the sheep now?

His criticisms aren't invalid either. VF5 is an AAAA game if you want super technical fighting, and are constantly surrounded by high level competition to play. If you are stuck having to play by yourself, you don't have online, and you don't have a lot of single player modes, so then it's only 8.1 game for you They try to rate games based on what's good for the masses.
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#49 DireToad
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It's obvious that the review had his ass handed to him by the A.I. and took it out on the score.guch20

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#50 Acenso
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So a lot of damage control here

How much crap did we hear for LP and Zelda?

As they say karma. It comes around No AAA for the PS3