So, Alan Wake Didn't Flop After All

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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Why? It's a good game.SpiritOfFire117

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

Alan Wake did flop, and as soon as this happened it got less fun. The box art is decaying now and I can't even look at the disc. OH THE HUMANITY!!!

xsubtownerx

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Alan Wake did flop, and as soon as this happened it got less fun. The box art is decaying now and I can't even look at the disc. OH THE HUMANITY!!!

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Don't you just hate when that happens? Stupid flops...VideoGameGuy

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

This game most have lost a ton of cash.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

Nerkcon

How do you keep playing them? The reviews cause them to disintegrate. My copy of too human was gone before I even played it.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] and im sure those ps3 games were good too, yet called flops,

1stPlaceWinner

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Don't you just hate when that happens? Stupid flops...VideoGameGuy

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] and im sure those ps3 games were good too, yet called flops,

Nerkcon

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

FIipMode

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] That's why i come here, GS is always so late with their reviews that i have time to play all these games before they might flop and they suddenly become unplayable.VideoGameGuy

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

Mine did for a bit, but the 360 drive shredded the remaining pieces...:?

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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] That's why i come here, GS is always so late with their reviews that i have time to play all these games before they might flop and they suddenly become unplayable.tempest91

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

Oh I understand you aren't serious but why are you bringing unplayable flops if no one ever said so?

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

FIipMode

Oh I understand you aren't serious but why are you bringing unplayable flops if no one ever said so?

For fun?

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tempest91

Oh I understand you aren't serious but why are you bringing unplayable flops if no one ever said so?

For fun?

Meh, by all means carry on then.

No, unfortunately it was a flop in sales too. The game took 5 years to make and who knows how much.

It's a flop on both fronts.

Chutebox

you can't determine that until we see development costs.

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No, unfortunately it was a flop in sales too. The game took 5 years to make and who knows how much.

It's a flop on both fronts.

HavocV3

you can't determine that until we see development costs.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

No, unfortunately it was a flop in sales too. The game took 5 years to make and who knows how much.

It's a flop on both fronts.

Nerkcon

you can't determine that until we see development costs.

what?

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]

you can't determine that until we see development costs.

HavocV3

what?

Sales do not make a flop.

Heavy rain didn't do much better at this point in its lifetime either but it did make platinum. Heavy Rain deserves more than this game does. But I still think Alan Wake was a flop, after this many years of development it didn't really accomplish a lot. Should have sold at least two million in my eyes, it deserves that.Kokuro_Kun

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hard_body79"]

:? I don't know, what did people expect this to sell?

zarshack

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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"] Do you expect to be low or normal when the game was in development for so long?Nerkcon

what?

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] More than Heavy Rain :Pjg4xchamp

Im pretty sure the game has flopped. It will most likely drop off the top 10 chart when the next NPD is released.

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

It didn't flop, it sold what was the expected sales.

Ondoval

Expected sales for near a 6 year development project by top notch study and promoted by Microsoft as one of his biggest AAA exclusive titles is around several millions (3-6 millions). But after Forza 3, Splinter Cell Conviction and now Alan Wake seems that Microsoft exclusives are now in a deathstreak.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]

what?

jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="zarshack"]That actually raises a good question. Why did Heavy Rain sell so much better then this? I mean no one was expecting Heavy Rain to sell very well at all.

nhh18

i love alan wakeLeo-Magic

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] -Time Frame: There really wasn't much to February. Where as Alan Wake had to compete with Red Dead Redemption. RDR had the attention of the 360 fanbase through great marketing on TV, and ON XBOX LIVE. The amount of preview content for RDR dwarfs that of Alan Wake -Unique factor: Alan Wake while refreshing in aesthetic is a game that we've all experience in one way. RE 4 and Dead Space are similiar in terms of gameplay, and horror games in general aren't new or anything. Heavy Rain has no real equal on the market Heavy Rain got a nice push for being so different I think and took advantage of basically having the attention of the entire PS3 fanbase because nothing else was really marketing itself well. I mean Bioshock 2 is a big seller, but it wasn't bringing in much hype. Where as Red Dead Redemption was marketed pretty heavily. jg4xchamp

um 5 years guy, and did you actually read your own link? might want to actually read it. jg4xchamp

I recall reading it had been in development since 2003, shortly after the release of Max Payne 2.

-Time Frame: There really wasn't much to February.jg4xchamp

While it released in February, it was at the very end of February (so the numbers for Heavy Rain in NPD are only for like 4 days of tracking), and while there wasn't a single game there were a slew of games in the same release window, including Final Fantasy XIII.

So I imagine while Red Dead did have a huge impact, it wasn't the sole predominant factor. Competitions, ineffective marketing, lower than expected reviews and probably userbase demographics as well, all factored in, imo.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]So you insist on attacking a game just to "get back" at someone. Hardly what I would call rational. You see, I don't view things in the context of 360 game/PS3 game. I just view them as games that just so happen to be on a different system. No shift in standards.

SpiritOfFire117

Wow 500k is now good for a blockbuster exclusive on console? Ha.. no way man the game flopped hard.

lol, it matched Monster Hunter in North America? That's pretty meh, this isn't some niche ass game here. half a mill is okay, but it should haqve done far better.

Yeah, it flopped in sales and scores! Still one of the best sp experiences this gen, it´s really a great game!

Alan Wake flopped in terms of sales and score. Its simple as that.

New data: Joystiq revealed that Alan Wake had May sales (two weeks) of 145K.

Combined with three weeks of sales in the UK for 55K, and two weeks in Japan for 19K, that puts it at a combined 219K for May for US/UK/JPN.

The only unknown is continental Europe, which I would guesstimate would bring the May total up to ~300K.

Unless it had legs like a Mario game, which I doubt it did considering how fast it fell in the UK, then it's June sales would probably put it around 400K worldwide since it's launch. Maybe less.

For a triple-A budget, 5+ years in the making, exclusive blockbuster that is a flop in anyone's books.

It's not a complete bomb though... Blur sold 30K in the US on both systems combined. :/

I just hope it sells enough so MS sees the need for a sequel. I CANNOT wait for the new episodes. I really wonder how they will connect to the rest of the game.wolverine4262

MS should've ****ing advertised it. I didn't see a single TV, internet or poster advert for it in the UK.

Yes, it was a flop, hype was AAA and it got AA, so it was a flop.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I hate them so much. I had it sitting near Demon's Souls and that has rays of sunshine cast upon it all the time after winning GOTY. The decaying chunks coming from Alan Wake are quite depressing.

FIipMode

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] That's why i come here, GS is always so late with their reviews that i have time to play all these games before they might flop and they suddenly become unplayable.Rockman999

What I don't understand is where you got this idea that people think a flop is something unplayable, who said that?

No I got the sarcasm perfectly, and it probably would have made more sense if someone had actually said that flops were unplayable games but since no one did it just seemed pointless to me.

Alan Wake is the 6th best selling game for May in the UK. While this week, Demon's Souls drops from #7 to #21.... LOLKittenWishes

One game has been essentially re-released in Europe, but has been available for 9-16 months as a region-free import.

One game has just been released and charted 6th in the UK for May for 55K units.

One game garnered very positive reviews for a metascore of 90, including a 9.0 and GOTY Award here.

One game got an 8.5 here when it was hyped AAA, with a metascore of 83.

One game was virtually unknown before it started getting buzz from its positive reception, and has sold on positive reviews and word-of-mouth alone.

One game has been known and hyped for more than half a decade.

One game has a LTD (14/03/10) of ~190K in Japan.

One game has a LTD of ~19K in Japan.

One game was supply constrained during its launch month and still charted on the NPD for 150K+, and sold almost four times what the publisher was expecting in North America, with 280K+ sold through.

One game's developers stated that they were "betting the farm" on the project and that they'd "rather ship a game that sells 4 million units every four years than release a game that sells 1 million units every year" with the implication being that it was expected to sell multimillions, but ended up with a launch month of 145K.

One game is almost universally regarded as a textbook sleeper hit, by the publisher, by the industry, by gamers.

The other is Alan Wake.

You could just accept that Alan Wake hasn't sold what people were expecting and let the topic die. But instead you try and make yourself feel better by deriding a well-regarded game. Misery wants company?

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.