So Bayonetta 2 bombs in Japan

I really hope you are being sarcastic.

Even Knack sold and will sell more.

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@KungfuKitten

You should tread carefully..... You might say something you didn't mean to say.

:) Hmm ok. Thanks for the warning. I don't know about Japan or its culture and I'm curious how or what can direct a great amount of people so precisely. I just gave some example thoughts of what it could be, because I didn't want to come across as someone who asks a question without thinking about it first. But I understand that a real answer could be insulting to people. So maybe this is not the place. I just don't know what would be the place. A place where people don't play games of social standards and guilt.

@KungfuKitten

Well I always thought of Japan (the whole of east Asia actually) as very different, more so than other places... I keep the rest of the things I think to myself.... Just as a precaution.... I'l on voice them if they bring it up them selves.... Which is unlikely since I don't speak Japanese.... I will say this though..... Ninjas are Awesome ! :p

keep in mind this is commercial bombing, critically Famitsu gave it a 10/9/10/9, Edge gave it a 10/10 so far

looks to be a good game, but yeah I doubt it's going to sell well at all, which probably means a limited inventory of the game with retailers, so pick up a tangible copy while you can, I will

with something selling this low commercially yet getting high critical reception, I wonder if production will be low but later a demand for it will cause prices of limited existing inventory to skyrocket... might be an investment to pick up an extra copy and sit on it

sad though, these low sales will make it difficult to find financial backing for future titles unless Platinum can come up with the financing on their own

anyhow, the first Bayonetta didn't sell well right off the bat, but good word of mouth I think helped sell the game a little longer, hopefully this game gets a lot of fanfare to keep sales up a bit longer, I think it'd help a great deal to keep Bayonetta 1 + 2 deal a permanent feature with the title on Wii U rather than a limited/timed thing, to help support future sales

Yeah :D

I currently live in Tokyo and have been here for more than 2 years already. I can read and speak Japanese although not on a native level. I'm studying game development in a technical school and let me tell you that the world of the Japanese I've met so far is really very insular. Since all of my classmates can't understand English they really don't know anything that hasn't been translated to Japanese. There's this one guy I know who thought only Japanese eat rice. There's another one who was surprised there are other countries that have 4 seasons. Another one is scared to visit America when I asked him if he would like to visit US. Apparently he thinks it's so dangerous that he's scared to go. PC gaming is virtually non-existent here. Batman, Starcraft, DotA, etc. are unknown aside for a few. They frequently use phrases such as "We Japanese..." and "If it was a Japanese.." as if all the Japanese think and act the same.

Your point falls flat on its face because Japan doesn't care about Watch Dogs either... To date sold 170K in Japan combined on all consoles.

Well, what was it expected to sell in Japan? According to the sales numbers, it is third in sales this week, which isn't all that bad.

Knack was bundled with every PS4 in Japan

Because it s made by SONY and is obviously a system seller.

Sad to hear as I really love the series. It was expectable though

I guess one more great series is dead... :(

It actually sold pretty decent. Especially on the PS3, ya kno, a console were its version was complete and utter shit when compared to the 360 version. Was it a proper version made for PS3 and I'm sure it could have sold way more. The only reason why I didnt bought it at launch and only at half price was because of that. I refused to pay the same as 360 owners for a lesser version of the game. The PS3 version had too much bad publicity around it at the time and it still sold the most out of the two versions... what does that tell you? Remember many hack'n'slash fans are PS fans cause they grew up with DMC, GoW and many others

Probably, but maybe we should wait until the game releases in regions that still play console games before we declare it dead once and for all.

@Vatusus: the series would've been dead to begin with if nintendo didn't fund the bill for the sequel

They'll be lucky if they hit 150k worldwide.

I disagree with the pessimistic view people have. Sales correlated to console games have been low in Japan for a wile now in comparison to handheld, so it's no surprise that a exclusive niche game isn't performing on one console. Secondly, it hasn't released in the North America or Europe yet, neither do we know how it'll perform over time, so i don't know why people are jumping the gun after 5 days in Japan's shrinking console market.

Also people seem to have forgotten that this IP was dead, the only reason why we ever got a sequel was because Nintendo pushed for it, as it pushed for Wonderful 101, which performed much worse than Bayonetta 2. It's obvious they knew that these projects wouldn't be successful, thus i doubt low sales will affect them to a noticeable degree (by noticeable, i mean cancelling other projects in the oven by Platinum).

Finally, does its first week performance make the game less fun? No? Ok.

I honestly didn't find the first game to be anything special. It was too "anime" for me.

If Platinum Games is so well known by gamers then why do their games sell so poorly?

They have complex control schemes that require more than 1 or 2 buttons.

@majadamus: They don't make FPS.

The first sold badly and to be honest I wasn't keen on it and the second one the sales don't surprise me.

May it rest in peace. As soon as I heard that Nintendo, of all companies, was looking to revive it, I knew this would be the outcome.

This game deserved to be on the PS4, Xbox One and PC. Not the Wii U...

And yet the critical reception is stellar so far. What stake in sales do you have? So you own stock in any of these companies?

I think the excuse that Ninty fans wont buy games that aren't Nintendo is bullshit, and I think your argument that "hardcore" don't care about Nintendo consoles is bullshit. If Nintendo had maintained great relationships with 3rd parties and made consoles that were in the ballpark graphically of PS4 and X1 then I believe those consumers would see them as an option as a main console. But Nintendo went with a console that is lagging in graphics to the other 2 and their history with 3rd party relations is not great.

Oh well. They tried.

Didn't Bayo1 also bomb in Japan?

Why?

So? would you rather have it dead instead? because it wasn't going to be ever in any other console.

And no one pays attention to this.. those are one day sales. Im sure an entire week would look better.

Because it's going to end up like The Wonderful 101. I called it too... so predictable.

What a waste.

Thanks for living in f'ing Tokyo (that is so cool) AND being informative. I thought everybody in Japan had English cIass in school. I sort of expected that everybody in Japan could speak English to some degree. If you are limited to a language that is almost exclusively spoken in your country then that makes it a whole lot easier to understand this 'We Japanese...' thought process and why they would basically ignore a large part of the industry. I mean I ignore most Japanese and Korean games because I can't read any of that. I tried playing Phantasy Star and being unable to read anything was incredibly annoying. Sure there are translations you can look up but that is not the way to play a game.

So if Starcraft and Dota would be translated to Japanese would you think that those games would stand a chance at least?
I found this post from a Japanese gamer which I thought was cool and would suggest that you are on to something:

BaryshBey: "Hello. I am Starcraft2 player from japan.

PC gaming is not very popular here in Japan. Most people may say that is becouse of big number of other gaming consoles like PS3, Nintendo, Wii and so on. I cannot disagree with this.
But still it seems to me that biggest problem is that there is not enough games translated into japanese. Most games imported here are in English. In schools we learn English as our second language. As you can tell from this text:-) this not enough to fully understand and enjoy the gameplay.Particulary with Starcraft2, there are only about 400 people playing(based on SC2JP community site(there may be much more but this is the only information I have)).I think that this is kinda wierd, Japan have a good gaming market and number of people who interested in PC gaming.

What do you guys think about BLIZZARD making Japanese version of SC2?"

This is very interesting to me because his English seems OK. My English is not much better... yet I can understand everything in English videogames. I bet he would be able to play most English games without looking up a single word.

Considering that was the logic of that outrage back in 2012.

You heard Nintendo was looking to revive it after The Wondeful 101 came out?

No. Try harder.

Honestly? Yes, I would rather have it dead. Watching the "franchise" end like this is fucking sad.

As another user said, even putting it on Steam would've had a better outcome.

Well, I get to play the game this way. I do feel sorry for those who have the misfortune of picking the wrong console this gen, but as a Wii U owner, I'm pretty pumped about next month.

So, you'd rather it dead because you hate Nintendo (and don't give me that "I don't love/hate any company" nonsense). That about sums it up.

Would you rather Activision or EA have it (not that any of them would)?

If that meant more sales, then yes. That said, I can't 100% guarantee that sales would be amazing on the PS4 or the Xbox One. What I can guarantee, is that they were always going to be absolutely abysmal on the Wii U.

I'm sure you can understand my stance on this. I'm going to play the game either way, have plenty of friends with Wii Us -- ok, not plenty, but at least three.

come to think of it, the game released September 20th, last day of the week, hopefully it has much stronger second week sales

According to Media Create, the game sold 67.29% of its stock on September 20th.

Oh well.

The first game didn't sell well on the PS3 or 360 either. I'm betting this one sells even worse in the West, but at least there is a second one.

Should've released it for 3DS since it seems to be the only relevant Nintendo system this gen.

Your timeline makes no sense.

HAHAhaha holy shit I can't