So do People still think PC Gaming is dead? (Poll)

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#51 Lucianu
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Well this is System Wars, and every system gets bashed here, and anyone who knows the rules should follow them like everybody else. If it bothers hermits so much that other people won't agree with them, or say something negative whether it's true or not, they should probably stick to the PC forums.Bigboi500

Hence why some of us hermits just make fun of the miss-informed and completely illogical opinions consolites make about PC gaming.

Because fanboys shall not read. Therefore, we just have fun.

Hell, i play what's fun, but sometimes its also fun to read some of these threads that are put around here, no joke.

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#52 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

Can someone please show me something tangible that PC gaming is dying? I don't think anyone can, and that's because IT'S NOT.

PC gamers on this cesspool of a forum are accused endlessly of being elitist when the majority of us only point out the obvious truth's about the platform when the console users try to pass over their system/s as superior over the PC, when they are simply not, in nearly every single way. Thread's like this, with people saying "let it die" when the death of PC gaming IS the death of any meaningful future of the industry is equally sad, stupid, shortsighted and infuriating.

Every time one of these pathetic threads are opened, their is always a number of posters who post a whole bunch of facts that show the health of PC gaming, and 90% of the time, these figures are ignored by the anti-PC brigade who continue to goad and troll us.

In my opinion, every single rubbish "PC gaming is dead" thread should be locked. There's no discussion here, it's been proven time and time again that it isn't. Common sense says that it isn't. It's simply a way for the trolls to get a few free shots in.

Zen_Light

Really? Because what I'm seeing in this thread is a bunch of hermits that can't keep their cool and directly insulting other posters instead of focusing on the argument itself. One of them directly insulted another poster by saying "crap people like you".That's direct flamming, and not allowed here.Why can't hermits keep the discussion civil?

You mean like this. Despite i post this quite often in threads like this one apparently no console user bother to look at it or answer instead the choose to ignore it and ususally go like "Pc gaming is dead" "pc gaming is shrinking" pc gaming sucks" etc etc etc etc while many pc users usually post links that shows that pc gaming not only is alive but is growing as well in the meantime i havent seen any link that says pc gaming is dying ( aside some links to some random blogs )

Ati shipped more than 16million DX11 cards

Pc Gaming revenue 13,1billion as opposed to 11 billion last year

Hear That knocking sound is pc gaming

THQOur Steam business is going through the roof, but that's again, not reported as part of NPD

Steam Now Has More Than 30 Million Users

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#53 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Is it really an intelligent discussion to ask this every month of every single year?

Mystic-G

people keep claiming PC gaming is dead/dying, so yeah, what do you think?

By people, you mean console fanboys. And by claiming you mean trolling.

not always trolling,a few companys have said PC gaming is dying/dead

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#54 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Well this is System Wars, and every system gets bashed here, and anyone who knows the rules should follow them like everybody else. If it bothers hermits so much that other people won't agree with them, or say something negative whether it's true or not, they should probably stick to the PC forums.Lucianu

Hence why some of us hermits just make fun of the miss-informed and completely illogical opinions consolites make about PC gaming.

Because fanboys shall not read. Therefore, we just have fun.

Hell, i play what's fun, but sometimes its also fun to read some of these threads that are put around here, no joke.

There's no excuse to attack posters personally in any situation and not follow the ToU.

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#55 TacticalDesire
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I say alive, though it does have more of a niche audience due to game library, complexity, and price.

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#56 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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it's quieter now on AAA front. it's just plain impossible for PC gaming to die away entirely.

good PC games sell a lot.

e: Bad Company 2 sold more on PC than on any console.

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#57 Lucianu
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Well this is System Wars, and every system gets bashed here, and anyone who knows the rules should follow them like everybody else. If it bothers hermits so much that other people won't agree with them, or say something negative whether it's true or not, they should probably stick to the PC forums.Bigboi500

Hence why some of us hermits just make fun of the miss-informed and completely illogical opinions consolites make about PC gaming.

Because fanboys shall not read. Therefore, we just have fun.

Hell, i play what's fun, but sometimes its also fun to read some of these threads that are put around here, no joke.

There's no excuse to attack posters personally in any situation and not follow the ToU.

Humans have a limited patience, my friend..

Sometimes, it happens. There's nothing we can do about it.

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#58 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Hence why some of us hermits just make fun of the miss-informed and completely illogical opinions consolites make about PC gaming.

Because fanboys shall not read. Therefore, we just have fun.

Hell, i play what's fun, but sometimes its also fun to read some of these threads that are put around here, no joke.

Lucianu

There's no excuse to attack posters personally in any situation and not follow the ToU.

Humans have a limited patience, my friend..

Sometimes, it happens. There's nothing we can do about it.

Well I read all kinds of ridiculous comments about systems and games I like too, and I manage to keep cool about it and not respond negatively, so we all have to follow the rules or face the consequences.

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#59 AnnoyedDragon
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My theory on why some people keep insisting the platform is dying/dead?

Development costs reached a unsustainable point this generation for big budget exclusive development, driving developers cross platform. This happened to all platforms that try to stay technologically up to date. Namely PS3, 360 and PC.

The result of this is there was very little difference between PS3's and 360s 3rd party line-ups, because of the sheer number of PS3/360/PC cross platform titles. This didn't sit well with the 1st party; who need you to pick their platform over the competitions, so they considerably increased their financial assistance in expanding the consoles big budget exclusive line-up.

The result? Even though this is something that is affecting all three platforms, Sony and Microsoft are supplementing their platforms; where as PC is on its own. The typical gamer sees 360 and PS3 getting big budget games like Halo and Killzone, but sees a significant reduction in big budget development on PC.

They therefore assume PC is being abandoned by such developers, despite them mostly only making games for 360/PS3 because they were paid to. When we look at which platforms are getting the most exclusive games, you can see that PC is still No. 1. But people are more impressed by big flashy games; than which platform is getting the most games.

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#60 theuncharted34
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It's dead to me. But no, it's alive and well.

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#61 foxhound_fox
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Of course. Tons of people eat up the spew coming from people who know nothing about PC gaming and its current state of affairs. Hell, even some developers are a part of the spewing crowd who think there is not "market" for their games on PC. Ironically, if they made their games for PC (and not just ported their console games to PC), they'd probably do better commercially than on consoles, which have a much smaller total install base.

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#62 HailCaesarHail
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dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell.
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#63 AnnoyedDragon
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dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. HailCaesarHail

Consoles line-up is more cross platform than PC, as you can see by the much larger density of exclusives on PC here.

So would that mean consoles are dying?

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[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. AnnoyedDragon

Consoles line-up is more cross platform than PC, as you can see by the much larger density of exclusives on PC here.

So would that mean consoles are dying?

consoles are getting stronger and stronger.
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#65 Bebi_vegeta
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dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. HailCaesarHail

Really? Most Devs go multi platforme... do you think they care about console? No, they care about cashing in. What do you think that means?

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#66 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. HailCaesarHail

Consoles line-up is more cross platform than PC, as you can see by the much larger density of exclusives on PC here.

So would that mean consoles are dying?

consoles are getting stronger and stronger.

How are they geting stronger?

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#67 AnnoyedDragon
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consoles are getting stronger and stronger.HailCaesarHail

That's not a argument, that's wishful thinking.

Unless of course you think having to spend more and more money to justify their platforms adoption is "getting stronger". Given that the 1st party want to keep as many games exclusive as possible, and costs continue to rise each generation, the investment on their part is going to grow until it's unsustainable.

There is always going to be demand for a convenience orientated mass produced platform like a console, but I think the console business model is due for a shake up.

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#68 GFugue
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I don't think anyone ever... thought this.

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#69 HaloinventedFPS
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>Epic games: The money is on consoles

>Blizzard: lol okay

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#70 lowe0
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It's definitely not dead, but developers quit making the games that I loved (Jedi Knight, X-Wing, Wing Commander, MechWarrior, etc.). What I enjoyed may be dead, but what grew in its place makes a bunch of other people happy, so I guess that's a good thing.
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#71 AnnoyedDragon
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>Epic games: The money is on consoles

HaloinventedFPS

That Epic games is under contract to produce Gears of War titles exclusively for the 360, I'm sure plays no role in the companies views.

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#72 devious742
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dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. HailCaesarHail


EA: PC becoming biggest platform, digital distribution profits doubled this year

EA has been making a killing in the PC space (unlike its performance with music-based games), the company revealed during its recent financial earnings report. Shacknews reports that EA has seen profits from digital distribution on the PC platform double over last year to $80 million, whereas the company's digital distribution revenue on the whole has generated $400 million for the company this fiscal year.

CFO Eric Brown says EA's online business is growing at a phenomenal rate, "as much as 60% year over year." As such, EA says "the PC is becoming the largest gaming platform in the world," prompting the company to focus accordingly.

Gaming PCs outsell all consoles combined twice over

The PC Gaming Alliance has announced some of the results of a giant research project which claims that more gaming-capable PCs were sold in 2009 than all consoles on the market (not including handhelds).

Indeed, PCs outsold home consoles at a ratio larger than 2-to-1 last year, with revenues totaling $54.6 billion. That brings their total number to 212.6 million worldwide. PCGA expects those numbers to reach $61.3 billion and 322 million in the next 5 years. For comparison's sake, there are currently 73 million Wiis, 41.7 million Xbox 360s, and 36.3 million PlayStation 3s out there.

What is a gaming-capable PC? According to them, they're the ones with a discrete graphics card, i.e. not netbooks or others with integrated GPUs. Here's most of the press release:

SAN RAMON, Calif. – August 2, 2010 – The PC Gaming Alliance (PCGA), a nonprofit corporation dedicated to driving the worldwide growth of PC gaming, today unveiled its Horizons Hardware research report, an exclusive research study encompassing major aspects of the PC gaming hardware industry worldwide.

Among the key findings: Annual shipment volumes for the PC Gaming hardware market in 2009 were over two times larger than the combined Wii™, PlayStation® 2, PlayStation® 3 and Xbox 360® console units shipped in the same period. This trend for the PC Gaming hardware market to outpace all console shipments combined is expected to continue through the forecasted period of the research. In addition, revenues from consumer PCs capable of gaming that shipped with a discrete GPU (excludes Netbooks and integrated graphics-based PCs) totaled approximately $54.6 billion in 2009 and are forecasted to grow to $61.3 billion by 2014. These revenue figures are based on an estimated 61.5 million PCs (Desktop and Laptops) shipped in 2009 that can largely be associated with PC gaming as a key usage scenario.

The report also estimates the worldwide number of consumers gaming with discrete graphics solutions on their PCs (Desktop and Notebooks) to be 212.6 million for 2009 and expects this to grow to about 322 million by 2014. The report also includes detailed breakouts of various PC configurations (e.g. Basic, Mass Market, etc), by form factor and by geographic territory.

The Asia Pacific region continues to be the world's largest hardware gaming market with approximately 33% market share followed by Western Europe and the United States at 24% and 22% respectively. The rest of the world follows with 21.5%. Growth is expected to continue through 2014, largely driven by the Asia Pacific region.

"One of the biggest trends I'm seeing in the 2009 Horizon's hardware report indicates a strong demand for more capable mobile based systems by PC Gamers." said Matt Ployhar PCGA Research Committee Chairman. "PC Gamers are playing a central role in fueling healthier margins, and driving innovation in this space worldwide".

"PC gaming is the highest profile and most mature example of a new era of computing systems based on usage," said Richard Shim, research manager at IDC covering PCs. "These new usage-based systems are hardware configurations optimized for an improved user experience. Consumers are often willing to pay more for such an experience. In the case of gaming PCs, up to 25% more as compared to a mainstream system."

Microsoft to keep staggering PC and Xbox 360 releases

Microsoft Game Studios has said it will keep staggering PC and Xbox 360 releases so that desktop users have a reason to keep buying console titles.

Which is not to say the PC masterplan is any less important, argued MGS Europe business boss Peter Zetterberg - but given the platform choice in somewhere like Germany, then Xbox 360 sales would fall by the roadside.

"I would say that 90 per cent of the games that are pitched to us are on console. We're strongly perceived as a console publisher because we're the first-party publisher even though the Windows operating system is equally important to us," Zetterberg told GamesIndustry.biz.

"But in Germany for example, we want more gamers to buy our Xbox 360. If we launch a game that is on 360 and PC simultaneously, we basically shoot ourselves in the foot by allowing the German market to choose to play the PC version - because they are more likely to buy that than spend their money on the Xbox 360.

"If we launched a Halo game on PC and 360 in Germany simultaneously, 80 per cent of sales would be on the PC," he added.

Zetterberg also hinted that the future lies not just in projects with huge budgets, but in titles based around a free-to-play or browser-based model.

"We need to not only do the big budget, big production value, global titles like Gears of War, but we also need to go with titles like World of Goo or Crayon Physics. Those are games that are made with an almost anarchistic approach to a business model," said Zetterberg.


PCs Played More Than Any Console, Reports NPD

PCs are used for gaming more than any console and PlayStation 3 owners are more likely to have multiple consoles, according to the results of the Games Segmentation 2008 report from sales tracking and research firm The NPD Group.

In addition to stating that PlayStation 3 owners are most likely to have other "next-generation" consoles than Wii and Xbox 360 owners, NPD claimed that only 10% of PS2 owners have a PS3. In the realm of portables, 45% of PSP owners have a Nintendo DS, but only 21% of DS owners have a PSP.

Despite the broad declarations, NPD did not provide specific figures for console and PC playtime. Likewise, an exact breakdown showing the ownership patterns of those that have multiple "next-generation" consoles was absent from the release.


BioWare Says the PC is "Made For Games"

BioWare designer Daniel Erickson says the PC is "made for games" and that despite the never-ending predictions of its imminent demise, it's the "natural" platform for BioWare's RPGs.

"There was not a question when we started Old Republic - or any of our games, for that matter - [what the lead format would be]," he said. "There's a reason the lead SKU for Dragon Age was [PC] as well. When we're developing an RPG, it's a natural place to be."

PC Most Popular Format For Euro Gamers

Who's the most popular gaming format, eh? Who is? Who is? Is it you? Is it? Awwwww, yes, you ARE the most popular gaming format! You big, loveable thing you…

Oh, I'm sorry, you've caught me having a chat with my PC. Because my beautiful little boy is the most popular kid in school. According to an MCV report, as I've been saying for the last four hundred million years, the PC is by far the most popular means of playing games in the UK.

ELSPA and ISFE (Interactive Software Federation of Europe) have conducted a survey of British gamers that finds 33% of all sentient gaming humans are playing their chosen distractions on the big grey box.


Valve: Don't Believe The US Press, PC Gaming Is Alive And Well

in an interview with Good Game that slipped under the radar, Valve's business manager, Jason Holtman, said all the talk about PC gaming dieing because of some super-game console comes from "North America press looking at North American reports". "And North America retail reports don't have Europe in them, and they don't have online PCs on them, they don't have micro-transactions PCs in it. Steam has 20 million users right now and you've got figures like the Cartner Group tells us there's 260 million online PC gamers in the world

Valve: PC Gaming Alive and Well, But Developers Off Their Game

Valve's marketing vice president and frequent spokesman, Doug Lombardi, laughed off the idea that PC gaming is dying, but said other developers need to get with the program.

"I mean, I think, we sort of laugh at it," Lombardi said of increasingly high-pitched concerns over the viability of PC gaming in an interview with Shacknews.com

"Because we've been wildly successful - we're very fortunate, you know. Our games have all done really, really well, Steam has taken off and become this whole other business for us, Valve has never been in better shape - and yet everybody is talking about how in the PC world, the sky is falling," said Lombardi.

Lombardi pointed out that the sales data often cited to buttress claims of a dying PC industry do not include MMOG subscribers, Steam users, other customers of digital download services, or even other countries.

"NPD, god love 'em, they release a U.S. retail sales report, and people take that and say that's the world picture. And it's just not true...if people were looking at WoW's subscriptions alone and factoring it in, looking at Steam sales and factoring it in...Just look at what Popcap's doing - Bejeweled and Peggle and all this stuff - they're not in that NPD data."

Lombardi also said part of the brouhaha was effective PR by console makers and the absence of anything similar on the PC front.

"It is absolutely a perception problem. I mean one of the things that happens is - Microsoft has an army of PR people that work for Microsoft. They have at least two agencies that are additional armies. Nintendo I'm not as familiar with their PR outline, but I'm sure it's similar. Sony is similar. The PC has nobody," he said.

At the same time, Lombardi blasted developers for not taking accurate stock of what computers gamers have, and for aiming only at the high-end. He contrasted this with his own company, which conducts surveys twice a year to gauge the horsepower of gamers' computers.

"You know, it's hard to be able to have games that scale, and to write performance on the high end, and write performance on the bottom end, but you know, winning in any industry means some hard work, and there's a certain level of hard work that developers have to take responsibility for," he observed.

BioWare: PC gaming is in fine health

More PC players and more money being generated "than ever before"


The CEO of BioWare has told us that, contrary to numerous 'PC gaming is dying' claims, the sector's in fine health on a number of fronts.


I think there are more people playing PC games and more dollars being spent on the PC space than ever before, but it's taking a different form," Ray Muzyka said in a recent interview.




Study: PC Software Sales Up 3% To $13.1 Billion In 2009


The PC Gaming Alliance (PCGA), a non-profit PC gaming advocacy group, revealed a new research study indicating that PC gaming software revenues worldwide reached $13.1 billion in 2009, a 3 percent increase over the previous year.

That increase came in spite of decreased retail boxed sales for PC games, which suffered the "biggest downturn" out of all the sales categories PCGA tracked and now accounts for less than 20 percent of total software revenue for the year.

Digital distribution growth also largely offset losses in other PC gaming software categories. In its surveys of PC gamers in North America and Europe, the report found that 70 percent of respondents have purchased a full game online.

"The most notable trend in recent years has been the movement to digital distribution and payment for subscriptions, and the growing popularity with consumers of online games as a service," says PCGA president and Intel director Randy Stude.


Tales of PC gaming's death have been greatly exaggerated

The "death of PC gaming" has become reliable column and blog fodder for tech journalists. Perhaps it stems from lingering bitterness over time wasted editing Warcraft batch files in DOS 6.0. Regardless, you shouldn't take the idea seriously.

To prove it, we won't even lean on that most tempting pillar of PC gaming, the 12 million-strong World of Warcraft monthly subscription-paying player base. Instead we'll point to a report by Rock, Paper, Shotgun's Kieron Gillen from Britain's Develop 09 conference, specifically from a presentation on digital distribution.

Chart Track also estimated that digital distribution makes up 22 percent of the $13 billion global PC market, which boils down to $2.86 billion. If global digital distribution sales follow the same growth pattern that Chart Track projects for Steam for 2009, worldwide digital game sales will climb by $2.23 billion. That brings the global digital from from $2.86 billion in 2008 to almost $5.1 billion for 2009.

Now let's look at retail, in this case we'll use NPD's $701 million in U.S retail sales. Globally, Chart Track says PC retail sales represent 24 percent of the $13 billion pie, or $3.12 billion. That means NPD's $701 million figure represents approximately 23 percent of the worldwide retail market in 2008.

To recap our estimates for 2009:

* Global retail PC game sales: $2.37 billion (23% decrease)
* Global digital PC game sales: $5.09 billion (78% increase)
* Global in-game PC ad sales: $1.32 billion (26.8% increase)
* Global subscription and microtransactions: >$5.98 billion (unknown % increase)
* Total 2009 global PC game sales: $14.76 billion-plus (minimum 13.5% increase)

Blizzard: PC gaming is not dying out, BlizzCon proves it

In an interview with Gamasutra, Kevin Martens, Blizzard Lead Content Designer, revealed his opinion on the "PC gaming is dead" mentality that has been of much discussion lately. Martens feels that Blizzard counteracts this best by keeping system requirements low while making sure its games are still marketable.

"The death knell of PC has risen and fallen over the years, and we keep releasing PC games, and they keep doing incredibly well," said Martens. "I think that there is a market out there for PC games. The latest consoles are great; it's easy to get the game running and all that. They're useful.

"But everyone has a PC, and we try to keep our system requirements down as low as possible. That's one of the ways that we can make sure to appeal to enough people. Some of the really cutting edge games that come out for PC require a brand new video card and probably more RAM at least, if not a new CPU as well. That's really rare with Blizzard games. I think that's one of the reasons we still keep doing well.

"The best evidence that the PC market is not actually dying is the 20,000 people that showed up this year at Blizzcon, and the fact that those tickets sold out in one minute flat.

"That doesn't seem to me, that it's really good evidence, of a platform with a problem."


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#73 linkin_guy109
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i logged in to steam last night and i think i saw something like 2.6 million people online, pc gaming far from dead, its alive and well

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#75 SuperBobz
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PC gaming is very much alive, it is just evolving.

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#76 alexside1
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[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. devious742

*huge wall of text*

It stricks me as cherry picking. These are the same companies that create mulitpads/ports to the consoles. If EA statment is true then, why do games they own like Crysis turn into multiplatform.?

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These very same people that question the well-being of PC gaming are the very same people that think Tupac Shakur is still alive on a desolated island,
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#78 devious742
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[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]dying, its irrelevant to me. devs are starting to go console aswell. alexside1

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It stricks me as cherry picking. These are the same companies that create mulitpads/ports to the consoles. If EA statment is true then, why do games they own like Crysis turn into multiplatform.?

According to what I read.. Cevat yerli wants/wanted Crysis to be the next Halo...also...EA is showing initiative in the pc market but not in the way you think... Ea is releasing Free-2-play versions of their games like Need for Speed, BF2, BFHeroes, Fifa Online, etc.. You have to understand also that....why would EA limit themselves to only one platform when you can multiply the sales by adding it on multiple platforms...

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#79 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="devious742"]

*huge wall of text*

devious742

It stricks me as cherry picking. These are the same companies that create mulitpads/ports to the consoles. If EA statment is true then, why do games they own like Crysis turn into multiplatform.?

According to what I read.. Cevat yerli wants/wanted Crysis to be the next Halo...also...EA is showing initiative in the pc market but not in the way you think... Ea is releasing Free-2-play versions of their games like Need for Speed, BF2, BFHeroes, Fifa Online, etc.. You have to understand also that....why would EA limit themselves to only one platform when you can multiply the sales by adding it on multiple platforms...

You can do that by porting it, instead of making it multiplatform. You can release free-2-play on consoles if you wanted to. Why in the world dose he want crysis to be the next halo? I play halo and it's not the same thing. I don't want to be the same thing. I want to be different.

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#80 AnnoyedDragon
Member since 2006 • 9948 Posts

You can do that by porting it, instead of making it multiplatform.

alexside1

Crysis 1 couldn't be ported, because it took advantage of PC specific memory advantages that could not be replicated on consoles.

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#81 devious742
Member since 2003 • 3924 Posts

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

It stricks me as cherry picking. These are the same companies that create mulitpads/ports to the consoles. If EA statment is true then, why do games they own like Crysis turn into multiplatform.?

alexside1

According to what I read.. Cevat yerli wants/wanted Crysis to be the next Halo...also...EA is showing initiative in the pc market but not in the way you think... Ea is releasing Free-2-play versions of their games like Need for Speed, BF2, BFHeroes, Fifa Online, etc.. You have to understand also that....why would EA limit themselves to only one platform when you can multiply the sales by adding it on multiple platforms...

You can do that by porting it, instead of making it multiplatform. You can release free-2-play on consoles if you wanted to. Why in the world dose he want crysis to be the next halo? I play halo and it's not the same thing. I don't want to be the same thing. I want to be different.

F2P games would be very difficult to do on consoles...not only do F2P require to be constantly patched and maintained... you also have in-game stores to buy with actual money like boost packs, weapons, etc....thats how those games work...Its similar to a MMO model which is something that would never work on consoles..the only one that has been somewhat succesful is FF14

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#82 garrett_daniels
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I wouldn't give a **** if it went under anyway.ZippySlappy
Except for the little fact that the hardware in your console is derived from PC innovations. GPU manufacturers sink billions into R&D, but they couldn't warrant such cost if their work was just ending up in consoles. The success and stability of the PC gaming market has a direct impact on console hardware advancement. Even if you don't game on PC at all, you want the PC to succeed so you will have a better console next gen.
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#83 Puckhog04
Member since 2003 • 22814 Posts

Alive and kicking. It's the strongest platform financially and stability wise. Game wise as well. This has been proven time and time again.

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#84 Lost-Memory
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Only not very bright people or console kids like to say that PC gaming is dead... All that happened was the screamers went to xbox and left PC alone and turned it into a nice little haven.JohnF111
Got that right :) No PC gaming ain't dead, nor is it dying. As long as there are games to play, there WILL be PC's to play them.
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#85 dontshackzmii
Member since 2009 • 6026 Posts

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hermits are the only ones talking about it these days.

Birdy09

And yet its more played than your consoles combined, try harder :)

thats not one i ment . What i said is hermits are the only ones talking about it dying

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#86 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

hermits are the only ones talking about it these days.

dontshackzmii

And yet its more played than your consoles combined, try harder :)

thats not one i ment . What i said is hermits are the only ones talking about it dying

Ha What? You must have not been in system wars long then dontshackzmii.. Every year atleast 20+ threads is made if not more stating Pc gaming is dead, has no games, too expensive, is horrible, dumb, pointless, alluding that PC is worthless. Been like that for 6 years atleast. To state its "ONLY hermits"(which again I state to system wars naming people hermits, cows, sheep etc is a bit insulting) is very offbase.

For every one member claim like this, there is 3-4 trolling members who constantly push a thread about Pc gaming is dying who are not Pc gamers.

Just a FYI... I don't know if you can classify the TC into a pc side of things with a name of Haloinventedfps.

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#87 DudeNtheRoom
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Of coarse its dead.......theres no game on the PC that has say 12 million ppl playing, or is the most succesful game this decade, or can only be done on a PC, is a living breathing world. NONE OF THAT!......................I mean WOW, what a stupid question.
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#88 04dcarraher
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If you think about it Consoles are dying. Every 4-6 years a new generation comes out meaning those consoles die out. then with this last two generations have copied more Pc features and items from Pc. Which is making a console turn more into a Pc, most likely in two generations consoles wont be considered consoles in todays or pass terms.

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#89 HaloinventedFPS
Member since 2010 • 4738 Posts

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] And yet its more played than your consoles combined, try harder :)jedikevin2

thats not one i ment . What i said is hermits are the only ones talking about it dying

Ha What? You must have not been in system wars long then dontshackzmii.. Every year atleast 20+ threads is made if not more stating Pc gaming is dead, has no games, too expensive, is horrible, dumb, pointless, alluding that PC is worthless. Been like that for 6 years atleast. To state its "ONLY hermits"(which again I state to system wars naming people hermits, cows, sheep etc is a bit insulting) is very offbase.

For every one member claim like this, there is 3-4 trolling members who constantly push a thread about Pc gaming is dying who are not Pc gamers.

Just a FYI... I don't know if you can classify the TC into a pc side of things with a name of Haloinventedfps.

im not a halo fan

and im aware it wasnt the first FPS, Halo invented fps is a little internet meme that use to get chucked around a bit to make fun of Xbox gamers

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#90 Wii4Fun
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PC elitism does get really annoying, so I guess console gamers had to find some way to annoy PC gamers. Thus 'PC gaming is dying' was born.

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#91 coolmonkeykid
Member since 2004 • 3276 Posts

How does this arguement still exist? It's a well known fact that PC is best, and as I write this, there are 3 million people on steam.

If anything, Consoles are dying.

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#92 Mr_Cumberdale
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Not dying, but the majority of gaming hours on it is from MMORPGs or casual games. So it's more of a casual system since many people don't have gaming PCs.
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#93 lawlessx
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the PC's 2011 Lineup says Hi
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#94 kyacat
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Pc gaming isn't even close to dying and it won't die. like or not pc gaming here to stay
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#95 marcogamer07
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WoW Cataclysm is coming out in 2 days. I do not see PC gaming going anywhere.

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#96 ChubbyGuy40
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WoW Cataclysm is coming out in 2 days. I do not see PC gaming going anywhere.

marcogamer07

Agreed. PC Gaming was never dying and it never did die. It simply evolved past consoles and seperated the market.

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#97 rpgs_shall_rule
Member since 2006 • 1943 Posts

PC elitism does get really annoying, so I guess console gamers had to find some way to annoy PC gamers. Thus 'PC gaming is dying' was born.

Wii4Fun

Console elitism is annoying *and* misguided. :P

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#98 D00nut
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I can think of many reasons why PC gaming is not dead. Here are 3 examples:

Minecraft: This small-time game is making a big impact on the PC community. Anyone who has explored, dug, fight, and survived in the world of Minecraft knows this.

League of Legends: This DOTA-inspired game has been staying strong for a game that is not a MMO and is using the free-to-play approach.

Starcraft II: For a series that has been labeled the official e-sport of South Korea, I can't see how such a game of a nation could disappear easily. A game like SC2 helps to indicate the PC's presence in the East and West. Let's face it, PC is strong everywhere.

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#99 marcogamer07
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PC elitism does get really annoying, so I guess console gamers had to find some way to annoy PC gamers. Thus 'PC gaming is dying' was born.

Wii4Fun

Console elitism isn't much better. You guys don't get a free pass just because there's that few bit of jackasses that have too much pride in what they own and need to work on their insecurity issues.

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#100 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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I wouldn't call it dead, but its very closing and there's really no denying that. There's not much on it in terms of big releases other than RTS and RPGs.