So Dragon Age 2 is out in 3 months...where are the trailers?

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#51 jjccjj92
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[QUOTE="jjccjj92"]

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

It has the potential to be good but until I see someone playing the PC version and seeing good combat I am going to assume it will suck. Like the stylized look though.

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He played the game and said the combat is more fluid and less clunky (which is a good thing considering the melee classes in Origins were almost unplayable) without sacrificing the strategic feel of the first game, so as far as I'm concerned, everyone's whining is completely unfounded.

That's Biowares PR talk. That's something they say, not what the previewer came up with himself. I've read a lot of previews and they say that its dumbed down.

lol and you know that how? You so obviously desperately want this game to fail. Give it a rest.

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#52 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="jjccjj92"]He played the game and said the combat is more fluid and less clunky (which is a good thing considering the melee classes in Origins were almost unplayable) without sacrificing the strategic feel of the first game, so as far as I'm concerned, everyone's whining is completely unfounded.

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That's Biowares PR talk. That's something they say, not what the previewer came up with himself. I've read a lot of previews and they say that its dumbed down.

lol and you know that how? You so obviously desperately want this game to fail. Give it a rest.

Why would i want it to fail? DA:O is one of my most played games this gen. I was looking forward to it.
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#53 IceBlazerX
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It doesn';t look too good,
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#54 Kokuro_Kun
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Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

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I'm still going to give it a chance,but I'm seriously disappointed with what bioware has been doing recently,

I blame EA.
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#55 bigboss5ak
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Ill be upset if this game isn't as good as the last one because i love that game.
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#56 DarkLink77
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Ill be upset if this game isn't as good as the last one because i love that game.bigboss5ak
Yeah, same. But so far, it looks like crap.
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#57 dreman999
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Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

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Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.
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#58 110million
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

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Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.

No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences. They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.
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#59 rolo107
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Why give us trailers? They know gamers have already made up their mind that the game sucks without seeing a damn thing.
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#60 Fizzman
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1st one was great. Second one looks like consolized trash.

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#61 DroidPhysX
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Why give us trailers? They know gamers have already made up their mind that the game sucks without seeing a damn thing. rolo107
The hate is strong in this one.

Which is why DA:O sucked?

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#62 RurouniSaiyajin
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

110million

Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.

No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences.

They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.

I'm afraid you're misinformed. Everything but the armor of companions is still customizable so that means belts, rings, amulets and weapons are chosen by the player. Also, the player chooses their skills as well. In addition to the usual tree they have access to like dual wielding and such, they now also have a unique tree. In Isabella's case, this unique tree is called the Swashbuckler.

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#63 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.RurouniSaiyajin

No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences.

They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.

I'm afraid you're misinformed. Everything but the armor of companions is still customizable so that means belts, rings, amulets and weapons are chosen by the player. Also, the player chooses their skills as well. In addition to the usual tree they have access to like dual wielding and such, they now also have a unique tree. In Isabella's case, this unique tree is called the Swashbuckler.

The unique tree stuff sounds like crap, they are re-arranging the menu to make it look more indepth, but its the same crap as before, just limiting your actual tech tree to this "unique tree" to make it look fancier than it actually is. And I don't care about deciding on all the small equips for a companion, that means the majority of what you could equip them with, is gone. Its not like armor was a thing, it was boots, gloves, headgear, body armor. You're putting it all into one category and making a big list out of accessories to make it seem less stupid.
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#64 Loco_Live
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▲ The game is probably really bad...Nobody likes Dragon Effect. ▲

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#65 rcignoni
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Well, pretty much every press release about the game tipped me off that it wouldn't be good anyways.
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#66 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="rolo107"]Why give us trailers? They know gamers have already made up their mind that the game sucks without seeing a damn thing. DroidPhysX

The hate is strong in this one.

Which is why DA:O sucked?

i honestly think this is the most hated game for next year, it's mind boggling, it's universally getting raped by the community. i'm going to defend it until the end though, you can quote me on an 8.5 at least.
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#67 RurouniSaiyajin
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The unique tree stuff sounds like crap, they are re-arranging the menu to make it look more indepth, but its the same crap as before, just limiting your actual tech tree to this "unique tree" to make it look fancier than it actually is. And I don't care about deciding on all the small equips for a companion, that means the majority of what you could equip them with, is gone. Its not like armor was a thing, it was boots, gloves, headgear, body armor. You're putting it all into one category and making a big list out of accessories to make it seem less stupid. 110million

1) Once again, there is more than the unique tree. Everything else the companion would have had access to before is still there. You don't even have to put any points into the unique tree at all. You can just use the regular trees like the general Rogue tree or the Dual Wield tree.

2) I'm not interested in what sounds less stupid. I'm interested in facts and I gave them to you to fix your original statement. My job here is done.

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#68 dreman999
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.

No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences. They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.

......No that'snot what they mean at all. Go to the bioware forums sometimes and READ the preview clearly. The what you refuring to is the game in general not the combate, which is what ypu all are complaining about. Combat has been clear to be different pc vs xbox/ps3. The xbox /ps3 is has more action. The pc version is a faster version of the DA PC combat. What you get form da1 you get again but faster.
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#69 dreman999
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="110million"] No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences.

They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.

I'm afraid you're misinformed. Everything but the armor of companions is still customizable so that means belts, rings, amulets and weapons are chosen by the player. Also, the player chooses their skills as well. In addition to the usual tree they have access to like dual wielding and such, they now also have a unique tree. In Isabella's case, this unique tree is called the Swashbuckler.

The unique tree stuff sounds like crap, they are re-arranging the menu to make it look more indepth, but its the same crap as before, just limiting your actual tech tree to this "unique tree" to make it look fancier than it actually is. And I don't care about deciding on all the small equips for a companion, that means the majority of what you could equip them with, is gone. Its not like armor was a thing, it was boots, gloves, headgear, body armor. You're putting it all into one category and making a big list out of accessories to make it seem less stupid.

My god...Just go to the bioware forum. Their list of all this info there that clears everything up.
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#70 UnknownSniper65
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I agree with the general consensus that the direction they went with the game was completely opposite of what fans wanted. What footage and details we have seen looks pretty disappointing in comparison to the first game.

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#71 Cherokee_Jack
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It's not out in 3 months, come on.
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#72 SiKh22
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I think we are quick to question but the changes they made to mass effects 2 won a lot of people over, likely DA 2 will do the same, streamline the game.
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#73 dreman999
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I think we are quick to question but the changes they made to mass effects 2 won a lot of people over, likely DA 2 will do the same, streamline the game. SiKh22
Smart man.
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#74 UnknownSniper65
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I think we are quick to question but the changes they made to mass effects 2 won a lot of people over, likely DA 2 will do the same, streamline the game. SiKh22

Two completely different game. More than likely the changes made to DA2 will just alienate fans of the first one.

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#75 lawlessx
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I think we are quick to question but the changes they made to mass effects 2 won a lot of people over, likely DA 2 will do the same, streamline the game. SiKh22

[QUOTE="SiKh22"]I think we are quick to question but the changes they made to mass effects 2 won a lot of people over, likely DA 2 will do the same, streamline the game. UnknownSniper65


Two completely different game types. More than likely the changes made to DA2 will just alienate fans of the first one.

strange how not many people are figuring that part out.

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#76 Hakkai007
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I wish Bioware stuck with the original character models for DA 1 but they changed that when they brought it out.

Hopefully they make the second game easy to mod for.

I already have my characters changed to reflect the Sacred Ashes trailer.

I doubt DA 2 will look this good.

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#77 lawlessx
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^^^ .......why didn't i buy Dragon Age for my PC :cry:
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#78 Hakkai007
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And some close ups.

I also added the sacred ashes version and lore version for Sten and the other characters.

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#79 icyseanfitz
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the one thing this game has going for it is that bioware is making it and they have yet to make a bad game, if its bad im blaming ea

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#81 abuabed
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I dunno about the trailers but I'm assured that it will be one of the best games for next year.
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#82 110million
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[QUOTE="dreman999"] My god...Just go to the bioware forum. Their list of all this info there that clears everything up.

Don't really feel like searching through the forum for what should be obvious information a few months before launch. You can't "clear up" removing aspects of a game.
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#83 sonny2dap
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Love bioware, looking at DA2 and not feeling confident, me2 works with a set character and the slim lining introduced after ME1 flowed fairly nicely into ME2, DA2 on the other hand is a complete departure from the first one as far as anyone can tell. My biggest problem is DA1 = play as elf, dwarf, human helps to enhance the any man ideal of the greywardens, DA2=Human. to me that indicates DA1 will have to be ignored for anything other than broad sweeping story points.
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#84 dommeus
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

Since the combat is going to be horrible i hope at the least the moral decisions will actually mean something.

GeneralShowzer

There is a system similar to the paragon - regenerade thing. So don't bet on it.

I thought the combat was pretty balls in DA 1 anyway. it wasn't nearly as good as either of the KOTOR games. Bioware implemented real time combat into Jade Empire and it was still a great game.

EDIT - talking about the 360 version.

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#85 GeneralShowzer
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The Bioware forums are a joke. There are forum rats there that spent 12 hours a day and will attack you and turn the thread into a joke thread, if you question any of the decisions.

Also these people think they're the developers closest friends...

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Also, there's no mod support.

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#87 zekere
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I liked DA O ...I love Mass Effect . I won't like Mass Origins ... I smell EA quick cash-in . Oh, well, every game is quick cash-in today . so little inspiration ... the last real original games I played were Heavy Rain and demon's Souls . All the rest was "been there done that" .

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#88 SecretPolice
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Hate to say but this is the first Bioware game in ummm, Ages :P that I have almost no interest in.. at least at this time.

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#89 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

dreman999
Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.

Yes because this looks the same as Origins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAT1OmZnVH4&feature=related
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#90 heytheredarlin
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The first one sucked so I doubt the sequel will be much different.

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#91 Dantus12
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The making of DA2.

Game dev diary with a few PC gameplay fragments :

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/unnameddragonageprojectworkingtitle/video/6284996?tag=topslot;title;1

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#92 ironcreed
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I have my copy pre-ordered. Loved the first one and am sure that I will love DAII at least as much. As has been often said, BioWare has not let me down yet and I don't expect that they will here. Can't wait.

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#93 edo-tensei
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[QUOTE="110million"]The unique tree stuff sounds like crap, they are re-arranging the menu to make it look more indepth, but its the same crap as before, just limiting your actual tech tree to this "unique tree" to make it look fancier than it actually is. And I don't care about deciding on all the small equips for a companion, that means the majority of what you could equip them with, is gone. Its not like armor was a thing, it was boots, gloves, headgear, body armor. You're putting it all into one category and making a big list out of accessories to make it seem less stupid. RurouniSaiyajin

1) Once again, there is more than the unique tree. Everything else the companion would have had access to before is still there. You don't even have to put any points into the unique tree at all. You can just use the regular trees like the general Rogue tree or the Dual Wield tree.

2) I'm not interested in what sounds less stupid. I'm interested in facts and I gave them to you to fix your original statement. My job here is done.

Everything in the game has been dumbed down: equipment, class system, skill-tree, origin race, even the story. But since they're taking the approach of mass effect with this sequal i'm pretty sure all these casual reviewers on this site will give it a AAA score regardless.
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#95 edo-tensei
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you all need to shut the cock up and stop whining over the fact the game is going to be different. i mean what the dick do you guys want the game to play like gothic 4?? eeeewwww just shut the tit up and stop complaining it plays like Jade mepire remember Jade empire and how cool that game was? yeah shut it with a donkeys hole, nerds.AlphaJC
lol, get moded son. If kids can't handle opinions then get out the kitchen.
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#99 edo-tensei
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="AlphaJC"]you all need to shut the cock up and stop whining over the fact the game is going to be different. i mean what the dick do you guys want the game to play like gothic 4?? eeeewwww just shut the tit up and stop complaining it plays like Jade mepire remember Jade empire and how cool that game was? yeah shut it with a donkeys hole, nerds.AlphaJC

lol, get moded son. If kids can't handle opinions then get out the kitchen.

maybe you need to get out of the desk chair, padlock your kitchen so you can stop eating hotpockets and get some fresh air kid, go chug asscock.

And he strikes again. With this, I'll probably get you banned:lol:

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#100 edo-tensei
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Great job AlphaJC thanks to you the thread will get locked lol.