So Dragon Age 2 is out in 3 months...where are the trailers?

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#102 Ross_the_Boss6
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I loved the first game and I was not very happy when I heard they were changing up the gameplay. With that said, the developer diary on the home page has made me feel much better about this game. I hope they are right in saying it will feel like Origins with needed improvements.

That's not to say I liked everything they discussed. That comment about one's party in DA:O not feeling like they were working as a team seemed strange to me. The way I set my party up had the opposite effect. I also don't like how we are restricted to playing as a human this time around.

However the game turns out, I will be buying it as I have never played a Bioware game I have not immensely enjoyed.

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#103 Yangire
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you all need to shut the **** up and stop whining over the fact the game is going to be different. i mean what the **** do you guys want the game to play like gothic 4?? eeeewwww just shut the **** up and stop complaining it plays like Jade empire, remember Jade empire and how cool that game was? yeah shut it with a donkeys hole, nerds.

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Calm down man, people have different opinions.. It's cool..

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#104 110million
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[QUOTE="AlphaJC"]

you all need to shut the **** up and stop whining over the fact the game is going to be different. i mean what the **** do you guys want the game to play like gothic 4?? eeeewwww just shut the **** up and stop complaining it plays like Jade empire, remember Jade empire and how cool that game was? yeah shut it with a donkeys hole, nerds.

Yangire

Calm down man, people have different opinions.. It's cool..

I think its impossible that hes serious, no one goes on game forums and calls people nerds, without being some form of.. troll.
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#105 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Game sucks as it is, why punish us with trailers.

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Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.

No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences. They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.

You can't equip your partners or level them up? Seriously? Good going, BioWare. Well, if that's true, I'm done with DAII.
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#106 Dead-Memories
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The making of DA2.

Game dev diary with a few PC gameplay fragments :

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/unnameddragonageprojectworkingtitle/video/6284996?tag=topslot;title;1

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people need to WATCH THIS!!!
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#107 Hakkai007
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people need to WATCH THIS!!! Dead-Memories

The game looks like a downgrade of the first.

The voice actor from Hawke reminds me of Alistair for some reason.

And it seems like they are ignoring the PC fans who love the tactical combat and want it to be more like a Baldur's Gate feel.

That fan base doesn't want a mindless hack and slash.

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#108 110million
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]people need to WATCH THIS!!! Hakkai007

The game looks like a downgrade of the first.

The voice actor fromHawke reminds me of Alistair for some reason.

Yes, I watched it, and all I heard was "Here is how we are masking the horrible downgrade" What the **** is this **** about making button presses attacks and no imaginary dice in the background? I swear, if you went back in time, and were to show DAII-era bioware ideas and goals to BG2-era bioware, they would commit suicide so it never comes to this for them. DA was one of the last high budget RPG with a little bit of depth at least, all this crap about making a game fun for them and that they aren't sacrificing anything in the meantime, :lol:

Edit: After your edit, it seems we're on the same page. :P

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#109 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]people need to WATCH THIS!!! 110million

The game looks like a downgrade of the first.

The voice actor fromHawke reminds me of Alistair for some reason.

Yes, I watched it, and all I heard was "Here is how we are masking the horrible downgrade" What the **** is this **** about making button presses attacks and no imaginary dice in the background? I swear, if you went back in time, and were to show DAII-era bioware ideas and goals to BG2-era bioware, they would commit suicide so it never comes to this for them. DA was one of the last high budget RPG with a little bit of depth at least, all this crap about making a game fun for them and that they aren't sacrificing anything in the meantime, :lol:

Edit: After your edit, it seems we're on the same page. :P

you can't expect them to stick to the same template FOREVER, come on, this is bioware, if they say they are taking it a step forward, then that's what they're doing. everyone relax, the game will be awesome.
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] you can't expect them to stick to the same template FOREVER, come on, this is bioware, if they say they are taking it a step forward, then that's what they're doing. everyone relax, the game will be awesome.

Okay lets see how this worked out in the past: ME1: Good sci-fi TPS with weak RPG gameplay elements -> ME2: Good Sci-Fi TPS with no RPG gameplay elements Result: Success, poor RPG elements are not worth including, ME2 was a much better game. DA1: Good Fantasy RPG with nice RPG elements -> DA2: Good Fantasy RPG with... no RPG elements? Result: Lolwat You can remove the RPG from a TPS, and get away with it, you can't do that for.. an RPG.
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#111 edo-tensei
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="110million"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

The game looks like a downgrade of the first.

The voice actor fromHawke reminds me of Alistair for some reason.

Yes, I watched it, and all I heard was "Here is how we are masking the horrible downgrade" What the **** is this **** about making button presses attacks and no imaginary dice in the background? I swear, if you went back in time, and were to show DAII-era bioware ideas and goals to BG2-era bioware, they would commit suicide so it never comes to this for them. DA was one of the last high budget RPG with a little bit of depth at least, all this crap about making a game fun for them and that they aren't sacrificing anything in the meantime, :lol:

YOU CAN"T PUT EQUIPMENT ON YOUR PARTNER CHARCATERS! How's that for "little faith." Dragon age took nearly 5 years to fevelop, do you expect the sequal has better of at least the same quality work in such a small amount of time? The game has been mass effected for the casuals, let's see if it doesn't qualify as an rpg like mass2.

Edit: After your edit, it seems we're on the same page. :P

you can't expect them to stick to the same template FOREVER, come on, this is bioware, if they say they are taking it a step forward, then that's what they're doing. everyone relax, the game will be awesome.

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#112 EVOLV3
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Dragon Age Origins was one of my favorite games so far this generation, but the more I see of Dragon Age 2 the less hyped I am for it.

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You can't equip your partners or level them up? Seriously? Good going, BioWare. Well, if that's true, I'm done with DAII.DarkLink77

He's wrong. You can level up your partners and equip them. All that is known about the game so far, some minor spoilers:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Dragon-Age-II/Dragon-Age-II-General-Discussion/What-do-we-KNOW-so-far-Updated-11-Nov-2010-spoilers-3064634-1.html

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

You can't equip your partners or level them up? Seriously? Good going, BioWare. Well, if that's true, I'm done with DAII.Icarian

He's wrong. You can level up your partners and equip them. All that is known about the game so far, some minor spoilers:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Dragon-Age-II/Dragon-Age-II-General-Discussion/What-do-we-KNOW-so-far-Updated-11-Nov-2010-spoilers-3064634-1.html

Leveling them up is closer to Fable 3 than Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate. You can't equip them anything visible, rings, and accessory type items were always the last thing I cared about, a couple extra points of magic here, a little bit of HP there, but no longer can you equip arms, legs, head, body, its just fingers and belt pretty much. Also I see a number of lies and things that were changed from your link. For an example, it says the PC camera is similar to the Origins one, but that isn't true, in another interview recently they said that you can zoom out but not up, you aren't changing the angle, so its pretty irrelevant how far you can zoom out.
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#115 Androvinus
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"]Thoughts? Should we be concerned?

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Yes, from what I have already seen it looks terrible, and not just the graphics.

please..I'm still annoyed about the changes.

your sig.... I dont remember that being part of code geass. what is it ?
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Leveling them up is closer to Fable 3 than Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate. You can't equip them anything visible, rings, and accessory type items were always the last thing I cared about, a couple extra points of magic here, a little bit of HP there, but no longer can you equip arms, legs, head, body, its just fingers and belt pretty much. Also I see a number of lies and things that were changed from your link. For an example, it says the PC camera is similar to the Origins one, but that isn't true, in another interview recently they said that you can zoom out but not up, you aren't changing the angle, so its pretty irrelevant how far you can zoom out. 110million

If you read the original 1up preview of the game, where they demoed the tactical camera, it gives a better view over the battle, but it isn't isometric like in Origins. It's in the middle of third-person view and overhead. And the gameplay in PC version is mostly similar to Origins. This hasn't changed.

I don't see a big problem with that you can't give all your leftover armors to your followers. Now in DA2 your followers will wear what they are themselves comfortable with and you can still upgrade their armors/clothes. I think it should add to their personality. Only thing I'm a little bit disappointed is that I can't be an elf or a dwarf, but if BioWare'll give me a better story I won't mind that much.

I'm not sure about how they have changed the leveling and talent trees, but what I've seen they seem to be mostly similar to Origins, though there are fewer talents/spells, but this time you can upgrade and customize your talents/spells. Which one is better, we will see when the game is out.

Both console and PC versions will have auto-attack. PC version has auto-attack as a default and console versions have an option to turn it on. So button mashing is only for those, who like it that way.

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#117 demonic_85
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I think bioware has released enough info thru previews and interviews to give people a good reason not to get too excited if you loved everything about the first game.lawlessx

So its going to be a major improvement upon the first game?

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#118 110million
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"] I think bioware has released enough info thru previews and interviews to give people a good reason not to get too excited if you loved everything about the first game.demonic_85

So its going to be a major improvement upon the first game?

Yes, these days, if you get 6 stale donuts, its actually an improvement over 12 delicious and fresh ones.
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#119 h575309
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WTF bioware, stop messing with your games. For chrissakes, what was wrong with Dragon Age that they had to change everything? Hopefully it turns out like ME2 and is better, but Im holding my breath.

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#120 svenus97
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Who would it suck? The pc version of DA2 is the same as DA1 but faster. It still has auto battle, pause and play, and stratagy. You just play as a human and you have no over head view.

No, its not. That interview was cleared up later. When they say "no difference on PC" they mean from every other version DA2 not from DA1. They said it will be the same game on PC and consoles, on PC you can zoom out a little, and when you choose attack, the character attacks automatically instead of having to click a button everytime. That is pretty much all they said in terms of differences. They removed equipping your partners, and progressing them through a proper skill tree and all that, these things are for every version.

You can't equip your partners or level them up? Seriously? Good going, BioWare. Well, if that's true, I'm done with DAII.

You can equip your companions with armor, by "progressing them through a proper skill tree" he meant that every companion has a special talent tree. Isabela for example has the swashbuckler tree.
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#121 AcidSoldner
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I really enjoyed the first Dragon Age but I'm a bit skeptical on DA2. Not that there is anything wrong with improving and changing up the gameplay formula, its just that they are moving away a bit too much from what made Dragon Age "the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate." Bioware has yet to let me down but this is by far the least hyped game I've ever had from them.