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textures and character models couldn't be done. yes uncharted has great textures but it is lacking technically.
in before the powah of the cell
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)Cedmln
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)mephisto_11
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-textures and character models couldn't be done. yes uncharted has great textures but it is lacking technically.
in before the powah of the cell
mephisto_11
I love when people say games look great but are "lacking technically." What the hell does that even mean?
If it looks good, it looks good. End of story.
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)Blanco98
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
[QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)mephisto_11
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
well here it the gamespot forums. so MGS4>halo 3,smg and gears
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]textures and character models couldn't be done. yes uncharted has great textures but it is lacking technically.
in before the powah of the cell
Jared2720
I love when people say games look great but are "lacking technically." What the hell does that even mean?
If it looks good, it looks good. End of story.
it means that you can make the game look really good but you water down most other aspects to achieve that level of visual fidelity. ie uncharted's weak character models, no splitscreen, no online, no coop, 4 enemies on screen, corridor "jungles". but sure the leaves and water look pretty if you tone down everything else.
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)imapieceofwood
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
well here it the gamespot forums. so MGS4>halo 3,smg and gears
lol ok live in your fantasy gamespot forum.
[QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)mephisto_11
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
well your in gamespot now....and if you knw well enough we go by the SCORE of this website not others which actually makes sense, if you wanna brag go elsewherelol ok live in your fantasy gamespot forum.
mephisto_11
Its not really a fantasy. Its a real forum. We are all posting on it right now, so unless we are all part of the same fantasy, I would argue its pretty real.
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]textures and character models couldn't be done. yes uncharted has great textures but it is lacking technically.
in before the powah of the cell
Jared2720
I love when people say games look great but are "lacking technically." What the hell does that even mean?
If it looks good, it looks good. End of story.
It depends on what the topic is. If you're talking strictly about a games look, then yes if it looks good, it looks good. When you are talking about what can and can't be done on a particular machine, HOW those graphics are achieved are of paramount importance to the discussion.[QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)mephisto_11
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
It's amazing how cows change their tune once GS scores one of their beloved (HIGHLY overrated) franchises so high. I'm wondering where all those cows went to that called Gamespot "Lemmingspot" before. Seems as if they don't feel that way anymore. Here's the truth cows, MGS4 is a pile that ONLY scored as high as it did mainly due to hype. Same thing happend with Halo3 and only a blind fanboy would say otherwise. You don't have to look too far in order to find videos showing off some SERIOUS flaws gameplay wise that sould've kept it from scoring an obsured 10. MGS4 is not perfect. In fact, no game is or will ever be. MGS4 should've scored no higher then a 9 here and you know it as well as many others.UT3 looks better then gears.....so i dont see why it cant be donestereointegrity
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]UT3 looks better then gears.....so i dont see why it cant be doneMojondeVACA
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]lol ok live in your fantasy gamespot forum.
SpruceCaboose
Its not really a fantasy. Its a real forum. We are all posting on it right now, so unless we are all part of the same fantasy, I would argue its pretty real.
anyone who only takes 1 reviewers opinion on a games is, no offense, quite stupid. yeah these board has these little "rules" but i honestly dont care. i dont judge games by 1 review. lair got 9's, pdz got 9, zelda tp scored less than assassin's creed. so yeah you can claim "ownage " all day i dont care. and i've already played mgs4, worst purchase i ever made.
[QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)mephisto_11
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
if that is so, then go write reviews on metacritic. This is gamespot, not metacriticIt's amazing how cows change their tune once GS scores one of their beloved (HIGHLY overrated) franchises so high. I'm wondering where all those cows went to that called Gamespot "Lemmingspot" before. Seems as if they don't feel that way anymore. Here's the truth cows, MGS4 is a pile that ONLY scored as high as it did mainly due to hype. Same thing happend with Halo3 and only a blind fanboy would say otherwise. You don't have to look too far in order to find videos showing off some SERIOUS flaws gameplay wise that sould've kept it from scoring an obsured 10. MGS4 is not perfect. In fact, no game is or will ever be. MGS4 should've scored no higher then a 9 here and you know it as well as many others.Nedemis
As much as I think MGS4 is not a 10, it is hardly "a pile" as you put it. And again, a 10 does not represent a perfect game.
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)Nedemis
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
It's amazing how cows change their tune once GS scores one of their beloved (HIGHLY overrated) franchises so high. I'm wondering where all those cows went to that called Gamespot "Lemmingspot" before. Seems as if they don't feel that way anymore. Here's the truth cows, MGS4 is a pile that ONLY scored as high as it did mainly due to hype. Same thing happend with Halo3 and only a blind fanboy would say otherwise. You don't have to look too far in order to find videos showing off some SERIOUS flaws gameplay wise that sould've kept it from scoring an obsured 10. MGS4 is not perfect. In fact, no game is or will ever be. MGS4 should've scored no higher then a 9 here and you know it as well as many others.yup exactly. when lair and r + c flopped, the cows were going beserk and begging for gamerankings. but once they got a 10 score here they all love gamespot reviews
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]UT3 looks better then gears.....so i dont see why it cant be doneMojondeVACA
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]lol ok live in your fantasy gamespot forum.
mephisto_11
Its not really a fantasy. Its a real forum. We are all posting on it right now, so unless we are all part of the same fantasy, I would argue its pretty real.
anyone who only takes 1 reviewers opinion on a games is, no offense, quite stupid. yeah these board has these little "rules" but i honestly dont care. i dont judge games by 1 review. lair got 9's, pdz got 9, zelda tp scored less than assassin's creed. so yeah you can claim "ownage " all day i dont care. and i've already played mgs4, worst purchase i ever made.
Its because you need to own a ps3 to play the game on.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]lol ok live in your fantasy gamespot forum.
mephisto_11
Its not really a fantasy. Its a real forum. We are all posting on it right now, so unless we are all part of the same fantasy, I would argue its pretty real.
anyone who only takes 1 reviewers opinion on a games is, no offense, quite stupid. yeah these board has these little "rules" but i honestly dont care. i dont judge games by 1 review. lair got 9's, pdz got 9, zelda tp scored less than assassin's creed. so yeah you can claim "ownage " all day i dont care. and i've already played mgs4, worst purchase i ever made.
I don't take any review besides my own as "real". But we are on GameSpot's forum, and as such, it is the final say on the games on these forums.
Those are the rules. Don't like it, pack up your ball and go to a different court.
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)DarkSan00
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
if that is so, then go write reviews on metacritic. This is gamespot, not metacritici dont write reviews i read them
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)Cedmln
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
No, it isn't the same. The 360's architecture is more flexible than the PS3's. If a game NEEDS more than 256 meg of RAM for either the CPU or the GPU, the 360 can do it. The PS3 is more rigidly stuck in a 256/256 split between the two pools of RAM(yes you can get around it but there are penalties for doing so). This is the reason that games develop on the PS3 and port to the 360 when doing it the other way presented problems. The 360's flexibility can allow it to run PS3 friendly code and resource allocation, MUCH easier than the PS3 can cope with the varying 360 resource allocation. The biggest advantage the PS3 has over the 360(storage space) CAN be overcome with multiple discs. The 360's flexible architecture can cause the PS3 fits. There is no techinical reason MGS4 couldn't be done on the 360, while certain design philosophies COULD make a 360 game VERY hard for the PS3 to run properly.[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]lol ok live in your fantasy gamespot forum.
SpruceCaboose
Its not really a fantasy. Its a real forum. We are all posting on it right now, so unless we are all part of the same fantasy, I would argue its pretty real.
anyone who only takes 1 reviewers opinion on a games is, no offense, quite stupid. yeah these board has these little "rules" but i honestly dont care. i dont judge games by 1 review. lair got 9's, pdz got 9, zelda tp scored less than assassin's creed. so yeah you can claim "ownage " all day i dont care. and i've already played mgs4, worst purchase i ever made.
Those are the rules. Don't like it, pack up your ball and go to a different court.
no thanks i'll continue to post here and use gamerankings. i dont play the "system wars" game rules lol
[QUOTE="Nedemis"]It's amazing how cows change their tune once GS scores one of their beloved (HIGHLY overrated) franchises so high. I'm wondering where all those cows went to that called Gamespot "Lemmingspot" before. Seems as if they don't feel that way anymore. Here's the truth cows, MGS4 is a pile that ONLY scored as high as it did mainly due to hype. Same thing happend with Halo3 and only a blind fanboy would say otherwise. You don't have to look too far in order to find videos showing off some SERIOUS flaws gameplay wise that sould've kept it from scoring an obsured 10. MGS4 is not perfect. In fact, no game is or will ever be. MGS4 should've scored no higher then a 9 here and you know it as well as many others.SpruceCaboose
As much as I think MGS4 is not a 10, it is hardly "a pile" as you put it. And again, a 10 does not represent a perfect game.
By GS old standards, yes it does. While it may not be a pile, it's hardly something revolutionary or even something great. MGS4's AI is an absolute joke and one would think that with all this praise about BR by Kojima, he'd at least used a VERY small portion of that for AI. As it stands, I have yet to see a game as bad as it in that department. Army of Two is VERY close, but it's laughable how sites such as GS could've over looked such a serious over sight. Especially in a game that's praised for it's story and gameplay.no thanks i'll continue to post here and use gamerankings. i dont play the "system wars" game rules lol
mephisto_11
Then don't expect anyone to take your arguments seriously.
By GS old standards, yes it does. While it may not be a pile, it's hardly something revolutionary or even something great. MGS4's AI is an absolute joke and one would think that with all this praise about BR by Kojima, he'd at least used a VERY small portion of that for AI. As it stands, I have yet to see a game as bad as it in that department. Army of Two is VERY close, but it's laughable how sites such as GS could've over looked such a serious over sight. Especially in a game that's praised for it's story and gameplay. Nedemis
We are no longer in Old GameSpot.
And MGS4 is a great game. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but it is. It is also a huge step forward for games as a story-telling vehicle.
And the AI has quirks, but overall, the AI is fairly solid.
Actually, MGS4 couldn't be done on PS3, so they made it into a movie instead...jk.
Any game that could be done on 360 can be done on PS3, and vice versa. The specs of the systems are so close it's obvious that they are equal. The major difference between the two is the manner in which they handle shaders. Other than that, I would say 360/PS3 games have models with same poly count and textures that are the same resolution.
It all comes down to the mix of HDR lighting, bump/normal mapping, and blur filters the devs choose to implement.
[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)Blanco98
Just like MGS 4 can't be done on the 360.
yeah im sure that ps1 level texture quality would make the 360 sweat
And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-Yeah...throw that 10 around...lol
But there are alot of horrible jaggies in MGS4.
[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Blanco98"]And im pretty sure 360 has an exclusive 10? right? -__-mephisto_11
yeah only on gamespot but on gr and metacritic which tallies every site: gears 1, halo 3, smg > mgs4
mgs 4 didnt even make the top50.
It's amazing how cows change their tune once GS scores one of their beloved (HIGHLY overrated) franchises so high. I'm wondering where all those cows went to that called Gamespot "Lemmingspot" before. Seems as if they don't feel that way anymore. Here's the truth cows, MGS4 is a pile that ONLY scored as high as it did mainly due to hype. Same thing happend with Halo3 and only a blind fanboy would say otherwise. You don't have to look too far in order to find videos showing off some SERIOUS flaws gameplay wise that sould've kept it from scoring an obsured 10. MGS4 is not perfect. In fact, no game is or will ever be. MGS4 should've scored no higher then a 9 here and you know it as well as many others.yup exactly. when lair and r + c flopped, the cows were going beserk and begging for gamerankings. but once they got a 10 score here they all love gamespot reviews
yes, and have you noticed how lemmings all of a sudden stopped using GS scores when MGS4 got a 10? It's not just cows. Lemmings are just as bad.
I can see this being true to some extent because of the way the ram is on the PS3. http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1066963-1.html Have fun:)vaderhater
The PS3 has 2 pools of Ram. 256 for Memory and 256 for graphics. However the PS3 can pull ram from the memory pool and use it in graphics. Hence using what ever it needs.
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