Funny, I've never heard of PS2's crashing anywhere near as much as 360s, and I know that Sony eventually fixed the problem. M$, on the other hand, just changed RROD to E74 to avoid warranty coverage, it seems.
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[QUOTE="lolfaqs"][QUOTE="bingbaocao"]
congratulations, you have just described sony and the PS2 last gen
bingbaocao
I never owned a PS2 until last weekend when I finally got a slim for $99. It's so cute! ^.^
What does this have to do with the 360 though?
both consoles had poor reliability and the PS2 users were the most milked of them all why do you think sony fanboys are called cows?The Irony eh? Cows are getting milked because they have to pay 50 dollars yearly for online play, they have to pay 150 dollars for a 120 GB harddrive, have to buy a 100 dollar wireless and a memory card of 512mb cost 50 dollars. OH WAIT THATS THE LEMMINGS THAT ARE GETTING MILKED.Lemmings also have nipples so they can get milked too :twisted:
Funny, I've never heard of PS2's crashing anywhere near as much as 360s, and I know that Sony eventually fixed the problem. M$, on the other hand, just changed RROD to E74 to avoid warranty coverage, it seems.
lolfaqs
Sony actually charged it's consumers to fix the PS2's issues, that didn't change until they were sued by the consumer, at least with microsoft it didn't reach up to that.
As far as i know the PS2's issues were only fixed once the PS2 slim was out, in other words 4 years after it's launch
Hey, I love the PS3 more myself. Honestly though, I would probably go nuts if I did not have a 360 as well. It is like Yin and Yang, my man. They compliment each other in order to create harmony for my gaming requirements. A perfect balance, if you will.:P
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]
I never owned a PS2 until last weekend when I finally got a slim for $99. It's so cute! ^.^
What does this have to do with the 360 though?
both consoles had poor reliability and the PS2 users were the most milked of them all why do you think sony fanboys are called cows?The Irony eh? Cows are getting milked because they have to pay 50 dollars yearly for online play, they have to pay 150 dollars for a 120 GB harddrive, have to buy a 100 dollar wireless and a memory card of 512mb cost 50 dollars. OH WAIT THATS THE LEMMINGS THAT ARE GETTING MILKED.Lemmings also have nipples so they can get milked too :twisted:
i agree, the 360 users are the most milked this gen. It's funny really how the playstation and xbox userbase seem to have switched places, all of a sudden playstation fanboys love shooters, love graphics and don't care about sales, just like the xbox last gen, while the 360 fanboys don't care about graphics, love sales and love RPGs, just like the playstation fanboys last genMan I hear you TC. I can't wait to get rid of my 360.
I just got my eleventy billionth RROD, I haven't played a game on it since 2008 (since, you know, exclusives like Halo Wars and Race Pro don't exist and neither do multiplats) I've driven myself into bankruptcy paying XBL fees and every time I turn the system on, it heats up so badly that I think I'm sitting next to the sun. :(
for the same reasons cows constantly bash Halo 3 and gears i'd wager[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]
and why do lems feel the constant need to bash KZ2?
bingbaocao
oh? so now it's about sales? Then i guess that makes the PS3 today's atari 7800, today's turbografix 16, today's saturn and today's gamecube :roll:Really? Thats why the PS2 sold 138 million console and had and still has over 200 more quality titles than the xbox 360.
Warzone876
[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]
Funny, I've never heard of PS2's crashing anywhere near as much as 360s, and I know that Sony eventually fixed the problem. M$, on the other hand, just changed RROD to E74 to avoid warranty coverage, it seems.
bingbaocao
Sony actually charged it's consumers to fix the PS2's issues, that didn't change until they were sued by the consumer, at least with microsoft it didn't reach up to that.
As far as i know the PS2's issues were only fixed once the PS2 slim was out, in other words 4 years after it's launch
uh, M$ was and is being sued by class action lawsuits. They still deny disc scratching, and they didn't extend the warranty for RROD until lawsuits and investigative journalism put pressure on them. And I really don't care about the PS2's DRE. I didn't own a PS2 back then, and the one I finally got is the sexy slim, which kicks all kinds of ass. But between PS3 and 360, the answer is clear as to who's doing the real milking, and it's definitely not the cows that are getting milked. :lol:
Man I hear you TC. I can't wait to get rid of my 360.
I just got my eleventy billionth RROD, I haven't played a game on it since 2008 (since, you know, exclusives like Halo Wars and Race Pro don't exist and neither do multiplats) I've driven myself into bankruptcy paying XBL fees and every time I turn the system on, it heats up so badly that I think I'm sitting next to the sun. :(
i still need to buy halo wars, how is it's online?My $200 360 came with a wireless controller... and hi-def cords (more than I can say for the PS3...) I don't have a PS3 yet but plan on getting one... face it, both systems have good exclusives... plus I gotta Jasper so I prob won't see the RROD...
you shoulda bought an Intellivion- those things never get RROD and have some great exclusives!
Scoob64
and you have buy play and charge battery. i would have been much happier if it would had came with a wire controller. and the arcade does not come with hd cables. so stop lying anything you say afterward is irrelevent
Man I hear you TC. I can't wait to get rid of my 360.
I just got my eleventy billionth RROD, I haven't played a game on it since 2008 (since, you know, exclusives like Halo Wars and Race Pro don't exist and neither do multiplats) I've driven myself into bankruptcy paying XBL fees and every time I turn the system on, it heats up so badly that I think I'm sitting next to the sun. :(
i still need to buy halo wars, how is it's online? I haven't spent that much time with it (because I don't own it, yet), but I have played some 2 v 2 over a friend's house and it was pretty fun.It still amazes me how anyone can choose the PS3 over the the 360. Hardware issues aside, it's much better. Online is superior, the dashboard and guide are user friendly and extremely useful and you always feel connected to the community. The PS3 just doesn't have that. Besides, what games does the PS3 have that the 360 doesn't? Killzone 2, MGS 4....that's about it. Sure there are other exclusives, but they're not very good, are they? I can honestly say the PS3 is the only console I've ever regretted buying, purely because of the lack of good exclusives, and most multi-platform games I'm interested in, I've already got for the 360.karristonthe online is not superior. the guide menu freezes every four seconds and run slow as poop.
My $200 360 came with a wireless controller... and hi-def cords (more than I can say for the PS3...) I don't have a PS3 yet but plan on getting one... face it, both systems have good exclusives... plus I gotta Jasper so I prob won't see the RROD...
you shoulda bought an Intellivion- those things never get RROD and have some great exclusives!
Scoob64
RROD still effects the jasper units and not to mention e74 error that is starting to hit xbox, there is no way to evade the rrod unless you mod the system yourself.
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]i still need to buy halo wars, how is it's online?The_Game21xI haven't spent that much time with it (because I don't own it, yet), but I have played some 2 v 2 over a friend's house and it was pretty fun.
If I can offer my opinion, the online is actually really addicting. It's an amazingly fun multiplayer experience, not surprising consider it's Halo. The only thing I see becoming a problem once you rise in ranks is that most people play either Anders of the Prophet of Regret and games start to feel a bit repetitive as they all tend to do the same thing.
cows do not bash gears and halo combined as much as lems bash KZ2
check the pages, they are full with KZ2 topics
I don't remember the same for halo 3 nor gearsRhubarb9
The Halo bashing was much worse. There were threads for days about how much the game "sucked."
People even started using it's sales figures as proof how much it sucked...
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]i still need to buy halo wars, how is it's online?Man I hear you TC. I can't wait to get rid of my 360.
I just got my eleventy billionth RROD, I haven't played a game on it since 2008 (since, you know, exclusives like Halo Wars and Race Pro don't exist and neither do multiplats) I've driven myself into bankruptcy paying XBL fees and every time I turn the system on, it heats up so badly that I think I'm sitting next to the sun. :(
bingbaocao
Halo Wars is great, it really is a very good rts for consoles, The covenant are over powered in skirmish or mp but the game is still great.
cows do not bash gears and halo combined as much as lems bash KZ2
check the pages, they are full with KZ2 topics
I don't remember the same for halo 3 nor gearsRhubarb9
Dude, did you just start coming to this forum in 2008 or something? :?
Killzone 2 isn't bashed nearly as much as Halo 3 and Gears 1 and 2 were. Not by a long shot.
and is being sued by class action lawsuits. They still deny disc scratching, and they didn't extend the warranty for RROD until lawsuits and investigative journalism put pressure on them.
lolfaqs
It still doesn't change the fact that it took all that AND a sucessfull lawsuit for sony to finally extend the warranty for DRE
And I really don't care about the PS2's DRE. I didn't own a PS2 back then, and the one I finally got is the sexy slim, which kicks all kinds of ass.lolfaqs
You don't own a 360 either yet you're always bashing for and i quote: "Because it's pretty sad gaming has sunk to the level of the 360 where gamers are happy to let a company milk them to death with shoddy hardware."
Seems to me like you're just being a hypocrite
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But between PS3 and 360, the answer is clear as to who's doing the real milking, and it's definitely not the cows that are getting milked. :lol:lolfaqs
I agree
[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]
The Halo bashing was much worse. There were threads for days about how much the game "sucked."
People even started using it's sales figures as proof how much it sucked...
Halo 3 broke sales records so I dont know what SW you're coming from...
Wii fit broke sales records, does that mean it doesn't get any hate?[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]
The Halo bashing was much worse. There were threads for days about how much the game "sucked."
People even started using it's sales figures as proof how much it sucked...
Rhubarb9
Halo 3 broke sales records so I dont know what SW you're coming from...
Exactly. It didn't make any sense to use H3's sales figures, but people did anyway.
Damn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
No Exclusives Really? Lost Odyssey, Star Ocean, Gears, Crackdown, Rockstar Table Tennis, Condemned Criminal Origins, The Lost and Damned.Seriously, RROD still continues, No exclusives, great Sony exclusives, No XBL fees, Wireless included with ps3, no more scratched discs...
It boggles my mind why anyone would want to continue with the 360 at this point. The fun times have come and gone.
thetruespin
But why Does it matter if you can afford as many as you want?Damn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
lolfaqs
[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]But why Does it matter if you can afford as many as you want?Damn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
Animal-Mother
Well, I also don't want a 360. None of its real exclusives interest me much other than Star Ocean, and even that one didn't live up to the hype completely. I already own 3 of the 4 systems I want: PS2, PS3, gaming PC (building a new gaming PC for Starcraft II and Diablo III though). All I need now is a Wii for Wii and GCN games, and my set is complete.
It still amazes me how anyone can choose the PS3 over the the 360. Hardware issues aside, it's much better. Online is superior, the dashboard and guide are user friendly and extremely useful and you always feel connected to the community. The PS3 just doesn't have that. Besides, what games does the PS3 have that the 360 doesn't? Killzone 2, MGS 4....that's about it. Sure there are other exclusives, but they're not very good, are they? I can honestly say the PS3 is the only console I've ever regretted buying, purely because of the lack of good exclusives, and most multi-platform games I'm interested in, I've already got for the 360.karriston
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I think your credibility goes out the window when I look at your review of KZ2 = 6.5 "Broken". Excuse me if I call your objectivity into question with such an obvious bias.
[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"]
The Halo bashing was much worse. There were threads for days about how much the game "sucked."
People even started using it's sales figures as proof how much it sucked...
bingbaocao
Halo 3 broke sales records so I dont know what SW you're coming from...
Wii fit broke sales records, does that mean it doesn't get any hate?But why Does it matter if you can afford as many as you want?[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]
Damn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
lolfaqs
Well, I also don't want a 360. None of its real exclusives interest me much other than Star Ocean, and even that one didn't live up to the hype completely. I already own 3 of the 4 systems I want: PS2, PS3, gaming PC (building a new gaming PC for Starcraft II and Diablo III though). All I need now is a Wii for Wii and GCN games, and my set is complete.
Contructive arguements for the winWii fit broke sales records, does that mean it doesn't get any hate?[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]
Halo 3 broke sales records so I dont know what SW you're coming from...
Rhubarb9
both halo 3 and wii fit are criticized by fanboys for selling "too much"
But why Does it matter if you can afford as many as you want?[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]
Damn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
lolfaqs
Well, I also don't want a 360. None of its real exclusives interest me much other than Star Ocean, and even that one didn't live up to the hype completely. I already own 3 of the 4 systems I want: PS2, PS3, gaming PC (building a new gaming PC for Starcraft II and Diablo III though). All I need now is a Wii for Wii and GCN games, and my set is complete.
i'm still waiting for your answer on our previous conversation[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]i'm still waiting for your answer on our previous conversation
lolfaqs
Try reading the posts after your posts and you might see the answers I posted.
i see no answerreferringyour hipocrisyDamn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]i'm still waiting for your answer on our previous conversation
Try reading the posts after your posts and you might see the answers I posted.
i seeno answer about my acusation of hipocrisy You're giving him way too much credit here. Even he admits he is a troll.you still didn't answer my question, you bash the 360 constantly for having poor hardware, but when it comes to the PS2 you simply say that "you don't own a PS2"? you don't own a 360 either what you are doing is hipocritical and fanboyism at it's finestDamn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
lolfaqs
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]i seeno answer about my acusation of hipocrisy You're giving him way too much credit here. Even he admits he is a troll. wait, i thought he admited he was an attourney? :lol:Try reading the posts after your posts and you might see the answers I posted.
jjenkins78x
seriously i heard he did
[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]you still didn't answer my question, you bash the 360 constantly for having poor hardware, but when it comes to the PS2 you simply say that "you don't own a PS2"? you don't own a 360 either what you are doing it hipocritical and fanboyism at it's finestDamn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
bingbaocao
yeah, and? I'm a PS3 fanboy, not a Sony fanboy. Hell, I didn't even own a PS2 until last weekend. And PS2 is no excuse for the ~30% failure rate of the 360, a problem M$ will likely never be able to fix due to the poor design of the 360 itself. And PS2's problems definitely were not as widespread as the 360's problems.
You're giving him way too much credit here. Even he admits he is a troll. wait, i thought he admited he was an attourney? :lol:[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"][QUOTE="bingbaocao"]i seeno answer about my acusation of hipocrisybingbaocao
seriously i heard he did
It's "attorney," and, yes, I am. :)
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]
Damn straight I don't own a 360. When 5 of my friends have a 360, and all 5 of them have been hit with RROD or E74 and some are on their 4th or 5th 360, I know to avoid it like the plague. And I really don't care about the extended warranty. When I buy a console, I plan on playing it for more than 3 years.
you still didn't answer my question, you bash the 360 constantly for having poor hardware, but when it comes to the PS2 you simply say that "you don't own a PS2"? you don't own a 360 either what you are doing it hipocritical and fanboyism at it's finestyeah, and? I'm a PS3 fanboy, not a Sony fanboy. Hell, I didn't even own a PS2 until last weekend. And PS2 is no excuse for the ~30% failure rate of the 360, a problem M$ will likely never be able to fix due to the poor design of the 360 itself. And PS2's problems definitely were not as widespread as the 360's problems.
so you admit that you're just a hypcorite and that you're a fanboy? :? but if you are a fanboy and you need to bash the 360 constantly then why you say that you're happy with the PS3? if you were happy you wouldn't see the need to bash it's competition now would you?[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]
You're giving him way too much credit here. Even he admits he is a troll. jjenkins78xwait, i thought he admited he was an attourney? :lol:
seriously i heard he did
It's "attorney," and, yes, I am. :)
then i'm sure you can easilly explain the meaning of: habeas corpus ad hominem post hocso you admit that you're just a hypcorite and that you're a fanboy? :? but if you are a fanboy and you need to bash the 360 constantly then why you say that you're happy with the PS3? if you were happy you wouldn't see the need to bash it's competition now would you?bingbaocao
I admit I'm a huge fan of the PS3, which is easily the best console of this generation and could possibly be one of the greatest consoles of all time by the end of its 10 year run. I also admit that the 360 is a sad piece of craftsmanship that sucks up money like a vacuum. Finally, I admit that I'm loving the PS2 slim I just bought last weekend since I never owned a PS2 before. =)
[QUOTE="lolfaqs"][QUOTE="bingbaocao"] wait, i thought he admited he was an attourney? :lol:
seriously i heard he did
bingbaocao
It's "attorney," and, yes, I am. :)
then i'm sure you can easilly explain the meaning of: habeas corpus ad hominem post hocAnyone with access to wikipedia or a philosophy degree (like me) can answer that. Ask something harder related to law.
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]so you admit that you're just a hypcorite and that you're a fanboy? :? but if you are a fanboy and you need to bash the 360 constantly then why you say that you're happy with the PS3? if you were happy you wouldn't see the need to bash it's competition now would you?lolfaqs
I admit I'm a huge fan of the PS3, which is easily the best console of this generation and could possibly be one of the greatest consoles of all time by the end of its 10 year run. I also admit that the 360 is a sad piece of craftsmanship that sucks up money like a vacuum. Finally, I admit that I'm loving the PS2 slim I just bought last weekend since I never owned a PS2 before. =)
dodging the question now aren't we? ;)[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] Wii fit broke sales records, does that mean it doesn't get any hate?bingbaocao
both halo 3 and wii fit are criticized by fanboys for selling "too much"
[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]
It's "attorney," and, yes, I am. :)
then i'm sure you can easilly explain the meaning of: habeas corpus ad hominem post hocAnyone with access to wikipedia or a philosophy degree (like me) can answer that. Ask something harder related to law.
less running more answeringThat is not what i meant and you know it, come on Mr. attorney surely you can do better than thatIf bashing the 360 because of its 30% fail rate, lack of good exclusives, and money-milking business model makes me a hypocrite, then, yes, I'm a hypocrite.
lolfaqs
[QUOTE="lolfaqs"][QUOTE="bingbaocao"] you still didn't answer my question, you bash the 360 constantly for having poor hardware, but when it comes to the PS2 you simply say that "you don't own a PS2"? you don't own a 360 either what you are doing it hipocritical and fanboyism at it's finestbingbaocao
yeah, and? I'm a PS3 fanboy, not a Sony fanboy. Hell, I didn't even own a PS2 until last weekend. And PS2 is no excuse for the ~30% failure rate of the 360, a problem M$ will likely never be able to fix due to the poor design of the 360 itself. And PS2's problems definitely were not as widespread as the 360's problems.
so you admit that you're just a hypcorite and that you're a fanboy? :? but if you are a fanboy and you need to bash the 360 constantly then why you say that you're happy with the PS3? if you were happy you wouldn't see the need to bash it's competition now would you?Andrew_Xavier came up with the perfect definition of SW in one sentence.
"System Wars in enitirely about rubbing it in."
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