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#1 arto1223
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Based on the new trailer, I would say that once again, a sequel is released for a game that doesn't look as good as the previous game modded on the PC. Consoles still holding PCs back in multiplatform releases. GTA IV with Icenhancer or any of its other mods look much better than than the footahe shown in th GTA V trailer.

Who knows though... maybe that was footage from a console version and the PC version will actually have some of the things that the modding community has shown Rockstar what their engine is really capable of when not limited to old hardware.

What do you guys think? Did GTA V look better or have devs once again not capatalized on what modern PCs can do?

EDIT:

Here is a video of a mod that makes CoD4: MW look better than MW2, CoD: BOs, and MW3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXFaT2TywBo

In fact, I think this looks better than BF3 on consoles, but BF3 on PC is still graphics king in my opinion.

Yet another sequel to a game that doesn't look better than a previous title in the series, and not just previous game, but three games ago.

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#2 Chris_Williams
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who cares, gta was never the best looking game around, i'm not expecting it to look realistic, i'm expecting it to be fun and engaging, if you don't like gta V because of its "graphics" then sorry your loss. So glad to see how gaming is going, this is why companies spend millions of dollars to make the game look good and the gameplay is the after thought, thanks for contribituing to it.

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Dear God...
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#4 LustForSoul
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Of course consoles held it back. Big part of sales will go to consoles.
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#5 mitu123
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And modded GTA V>modded GTA IV.

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#7 Giancar
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1) GTA V looks superb, graphics are important but not the only issue 2) Yeah, I think it's time for new consoles though
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#8 Mystic-G
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As a person who plays Modded GTA 4. Who cares? Vanilla GTA 5 > Vanilla GTA 4 Modded GTA 5 > Modded GTA 4
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#9 gameofthering
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I hope the PC version performs well.

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#10 razgriz_101
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GTA V has los santos that enough makes this whole topic invalid.

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#11 arto1223
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who cares, gta was never the best looking game around, i'm not expecting it to look realistic, i'm expecting it to be fun and engaging, if you don't like gta V because of its "graphics" then sorry your loss.

Chris_Williams

I never said the game wouldn't be good due to graphics. Typically, when a new game comes out in a series, aka a sequel, it improves upon itself. In this case, GTA V didn't improve really at all. In looking at what the game engine's capabilities shown by PC modders, GTA V is a step in the wrong direction in making improvements in terms of graphics. Again, I never said the game wouln't be good because of its graphics, but what you stare at the game every second that you play it... it's nice when it looks nice.

And modded GTA V>modded GTA IV.

mitu123

I hope so and look forward to that day, but it's a bummer we will have to wait.

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#12 Gamingclone
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And modded GTA V>modded GTA IV.

mitu123

So very true.

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#13 glez13
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I hope the PC version performs well.

gameofthering

This I hope Rockstar North actually works fulltime on the PC port like all the previous ones before IV. Come on Take 2 we don't want some other random Rockstar studio working on our GTA port. :evil:

Also that looked better than GTAIV, or is it just me?

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If you want great graphics go out in the real world, video games are meant to be fun, and so what if modded gta 4 looked good, rockstar can easily make great graphics its just the consoles cant handle them

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#15 SaltyMeatballs
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Deal with it. GTA IV modded looks better than BF3, supposedly the graphics king.

http://i.minus.com/iehNPs.png

More here:

http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/1079040-gtaiv-icenhancer-1-2-a.html

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#16 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

who cares, gta was never the best looking game around, i'm not expecting it to look realistic, i'm expecting it to be fun and engaging, if you don't like gta V because of its "graphics" then sorry your loss.

arto1223

I never said the game wouldn't be good due to graphics. Typically, when a new game comes out in a series, aka a sequel, it improves upon itself. In this case, GTA V didn't improve really at all. In looking at what the game engine's capabilities shown by PC modders, GTA V is a step in the wrong direction in making improvements in terms of graphics. Again, I never said the game wouln't be good because of its graphics, but what you stare at the game every second that you play it... it's nice when it looks nice.

And modded GTA V>modded GTA IV.

mitu123

I hope so and look forward to that day, but it's a bummer we will have to wait.

can i borrow your time machine? since you know so much about what gta V did and did not improve on? you get a 3 min trailer and you think you know everything about the game?
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#17 BillGates_Money
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mods mods mods..get off your high horse
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#18 arto1223
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If you want great graphics go out in the real world, video games are meant to be fun, and so what if modded gta 4 looked good, rockstar can easily make great graphics its just the consoles cant handle them

cee1gee

That was the whole point of me making this thread...

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#19 arto1223
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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

I never said the game wouldn't be good due to graphics. Typically, when a new game comes out in a series, aka a sequel, it improves upon itself. In this case, GTA V didn't improve really at all. In looking at what the game engine's capabilities shown by PC modders, GTA V is a step in the wrong direction in making improvements in terms of graphics. Again, I never said the game wouln't be good because of its graphics, but what you stare at the game every second that you play it... it's nice when it looks nice.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

And modded GTA V>modded GTA IV.

Chris_Williams

I hope so and look forward to that day, but it's a bummer we will have to wait.

can i borrow your time machine? since you know so much about what gta V did and did not improve on? you get a 3 min trailer and you think you know everything about the game?

Please read my posts. All I am talking about are the graphics since that is really all we can discuss right now. I never mention gameplay/story/etc... because I have yet to get my hands on the game.

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#20 rasengan2552
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Deal with it. GTA IV modded looks better than BF3, supposedly the graphics king.

http://i.minus.com/iehNPs.png

More here:

http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/1079040-gtaiv-icenhancer-1-2-a.htmlSaltyMeatballs

where the hell is the blur ? thats a bit too sharp ... like a cartoon drawing.

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#21 foxhound_fox
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I don't recall any of the GTA games ever looking particularly good.
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#22 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

I hope so and look forward to that day, but it's a bummer we will have to wait.

arto1223

can i borrow your time machine? since you know so much about what gta V did and did not improve on? you get a 3 min trailer and you think you know everything about the game?

Please read my posts. All I am talking about are the graphics since that is really all we can discuss right now. I never mention gameplay/story/etc... because I have yet to get my hands on the game.

and how do you know thats the final build of the game? the game looks great nonetheless but like i said you know nothing about the game and your already saying it doesn't look good from a 3 min trailer and you don't know when the game is even coming out.
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#23 The_Pacific
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:lol: the hate wagone already begins with just one trailer. SW these days.
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#24 cain006
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where the hell is the blur ? thats a bit too sharp ... like a cartoon drawing.

rasengan2552

You wantthe game to be blurry? Why?

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#25 arto1223
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

Deal with it. GTA IV modded looks better than BF3, supposedly the graphics king.

http://i.minus.com/iehNPs.png

where the hell is the blur ? thats a bit too sharp ... like a cartoon drawing.

rasengan2552

You can turn motion blur off in the graphics settings of PC games...

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#26 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]where the hell is the blur ? thats a bit too sharp ... like a cartoon drawing.

cain006

You wantthe game to be blurry? Why?

have you ever played a game without blur ? it doesn't look very nice, textures become too sharp. you need a little bit of blur.
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#27 AvatarMan96
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I hate how everyone cares more about graphics than they do actual gameplay.

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#28 Ravensmash
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I think I'm more excited by GTA V than some shiny road textures.
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#29 LORD_BLACKGULT
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Modded GTA IV > Vanilla GTA V

Modded TES III: Morrowind > Vanilla TES IV:Oblivion

Modded Crysis > Vanilla Crysis II

Coincidence? I think not....

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And who cares? Honestly, if you're playing GTA for graphics and GTA V's graphics bother you, then you're playing GTA for the wrong reasons. Very wrong.
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#31 Am_Confucius
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This time, I want it to be possible to actually run it, instead of it looking great.

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#32 Warhawk_
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GTA was never about graphics and since it started on consoles (GTA3 and not GTA 1 since it started the 3D in it's series) I wouldn't care if it did hold back pc's since it never started out as a PC exclusives like Crysis and many well known pc exclusives that now start on consoles first rather then pc. All I care about is gameplay.

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#33 freedomfreak
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GTA4 modded>every game.

You can't expect GTAV to look like the modded one on consoles.

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#34 Just-Breathe
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Because graphics mean everything?
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#35 rasengan2552
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And who cares? Honestly, if you're playing GTA for graphics and GTA V's graphics bother you, then you're playing GTA for the wrong reasons. Very wrong.AcidSoldner
victory post. these people nagging about the graphics are also the same people who won't even touch the Saints Row series because they think bad graphics = bad game.
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have you ever played a game without blur ? it doesn't look very nice, textures become too sharp. you need a little bit of blur.rasengan2552

Ah consoles gamers are their silly notion that blur is good. Guess they've become too used to it.

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#37 R4gn4r0k
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Is anyone surprised about this ?

Who cares anyway if modders can make texture packs and new lighting systems.

I'd rather have a well-optimized PC game from Rockstar.

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#38 Riverwolf007
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gta 4 modded will look way better than a console version of gta 5.

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#39 Macutchi
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if you're a pc gamer then you should be praying for a well optimised game not something so ridiculoulsy demanding only a handful of pc gamers will be able to run it at acceptable framerates

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#40 GulliversTravel
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Theres been huge improvements to the engine, so a modded PC game can now go ever further.
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#41 CwlHeddwyn
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After looking at the overclockers link it seems you need a pretty hefty gaming rig to run the modded version of GTAIV. One guy talks about take an i7 2600k CPU (an expensive chip in itself) and overclocking it to 5ghz to play the game at 1080p. This is way beyond what most average people with a average rigs can do.
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#42 arto1223
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I hate how everyone cares more about graphics than they do actual gameplay.

AvatarMan96

Well, we haven't been shown any real gameplay yet, just a montage of some walking, driving, and city... stuff...

I'm just working with what I've been given.

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]And who cares? Honestly, if you're playing GTA for graphics and GTA V's graphics bother you, then you're playing GTA for the wrong reasons. Very wrong.rasengan2552
victory post. these people nagging about the graphics are also the same people who won't even touch the Saints Row series because they think bad graphics = bad game.

I will be getting SR3 because it looks fun. Great graphics and great gameplay are not mutually exclisive things and if I can have both that is great but if I had to pick, I go gameplay every time. I am not playing GTA for its graphics, but again, it is nice if they look great. If the game had the art style of Borderlands/Firefall or Limbo/Braid, then I really wouldn't care, but the game is going for a realistic artstyle so, for me in this case, would like the graphics to seem as real as possible.

Please stop putting words in my mouth and actually read AND think about what I'm writting here.

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#43 arto1223
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After looking at the overclockers link it seems you need a pretty hefty gaming rig to run the modded version of GTAIV. One guy talks about take an i7 2600k CPU (an expensive chip in itself) and overclocking it to 5ghz to play the game at 1080p. This is way beyond what most average people with a average rigs can do.CwlHeddwyn

I have a 2-3 year old PC that has stock settings and I play modded GTA IV perfectly fine. My CPU is a Q9550 @ 2.8 by the way.

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At low res and low frame rate I'm Sure but the guys on over lockers are talking about 1080p high fps, max settings etc.
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#45 ChubbyGuy40
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At low res and low frame rate I'm Sure but the guys on over lockers are talking about 1080p high fps, max settings etc.CwlHeddwyn

You only need a quad core and a hefty GPU. You don't need a 2600k at 5GHz. Those guys are full of crap.

This is what happens when you use hacks + a game that's is one of the worst ports ever.

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#46 cain006
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]where the hell is the blur ? thats a bit too sharp ... like a cartoon drawing.

rasengan2552

You wantthe game to be blurry? Why?

have you ever played a game without blur ? it doesn't look very nice, textures become too sharp. you need a little bit of blur.

Yes, and GTA4 looks awful with the default blur on. It blurs everything way too much. I much prefer nothing at all over the blury mess that it makes.

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I hope the PC version performs well.

gameofthering
What PC version.
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#48 FrozenLiquid
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The art direction of the GTA IV graphics mod is crap. You got high res and shiny everything, but the art styIe suffers incredibly for it. I uninstalled the mod after a quarter way through the game.

I don't mind the lack of minute detail in Rockstar's games because their games are so visually consistent it doesn't break immersion. Even a good looking game like Crysis would have small breaks in immersion with fugly rock textures and stuff.

The only thing that's gonna get me is the sub-30 framerate on consoles, and if it happens, the poor optimization on PC.

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#49 GhoX
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The art direction of the GTA IV graphics mod is crap. You got high res and shiny everything, but the art styIe suffers incredibly for it. I uninstalled the mod after a quarter way through the game.

I don't mind the lack of minute detail in Rockstar's games because their games are so visually consistent it doesn't break immersion. Even a good looking game like Crysis would have small breaks in immersion with fugly rock textures and stuff.

The only thing that's gonna get me is the sub-30 framerate on consoles, and if it happens, the poor optimization on PC.

FrozenLiquid
Use some earlier incarnations of the mod (1.2 or before 1.2). It was only in the last couple patches did they introduce all the exaggerated bloom, lens glare and DOF.
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#50 AvatarMan96
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[QUOTE="AvatarMan96"]

I hate how everyone cares more about graphics than they do actual gameplay.

arto1223

Well, we haven't been shown any real gameplay yet, just a montage of some walking, driving, and city... stuff...

I'm just working with what I've been given.

Then why are you complaining about the graphics if the game isn't even done being made?!?!