So... How long before PSN starts having a monthly fee?

The GAMING division of Sony is doing FINE.

It would be stupid for them to force charge a fee, ESPECIALLY if it was anywhere close to microsofts fee.

[QUOTE="gensigns"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

It will always be free

you mad troll? :D

Heil68

Are you insane? You realize it's down almost by half in the last year.

Online fees? Selling off studios?

This sounds familiar.

Online fees? Selling off studios?

This sounds familiar.

Pug-Nasty

It's a selling point for the PS3, so probably not in its' lifetime.

But the PS4 will probably have a monthly fee.

SW__Troll

That's what I think.

It will always be free

you mad troll? :D

finalstar2007

This gen, at least. I don't know about next gen.

How long before Xbox Live becomes free?

Is sading to see people think that online console multiplayer need to be paid to be good because Xbox Live is paid.... MS hold on your balls

Someone's jelly they have to pay $50 to unlock their "multiplayer" achievement. :)ispeakfact

Wow, been a very long time since lems asked that.

Are you insane? You realize it's down almost by half in the last year.gensigns

PSN+ seems like an utter failure, but I still think it's a conditioning tool to get people used to the idea of having to pay. Most likely features will be updated strictly through it and then a super introductory sale will take place.

I think standard PSN will be stripped or unsupported so a pricing scheme can be implemented without officialy naming it an onlive fee.

When PSN becomes worth paying for in comparison to Xbox Live.

Wow, been a very long time since lems asked that.

Chutebox

It´s because it will be ownage to RIP OFF Ps users like LIVE.

Instead of asking MS to change their revenue structure, they pray other companies start doing the same sh!t :lol:

and PC gaming does the same as live and better! If Sony does that, I will play only mp games for the PC. No way I am paying for that!

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Sony really coulda used those extra funds this gen that a PSN subscription fee would have delivered. :o

If only cows weren't so cheap, Sony would be in much better financial standing today. :twisted:

SecretPolice

Anyhoo, thank you sir, may I have another ? :twisted:

You do realise that it costs next to nothing to let people play online for FREE right? All your doing is using YOUR OWN internet as badnwidth and connecting to another person's connection (the Host) or the other way around sometimes (if your the Host). All XBL is doing is charging you twice for the same thing, you pay for your internet each month, and then you pay again just so MS will let you have access to your internet on games that you just bought, they basically lock out your MP on your game.

It costs nothing to have FREE online gaming, and it makes your system more attractive to the consumer. I'm sorry your getting ripped off and everyone else isn't. If this bothers you (which by making this thread clearly shows it does) then either cancel your your Live subscription or just buy a PS3.

You do realise that it costs next to nothing to let people play online for FREE right? All your doing is using YOUR OWN internet as badnwidth and connecting to another person's connection (the Host) or the other way around sometimes (if your the Host). All XBL is doing is charging you twice for the same thing, you pay for your internet each month, and then you pay again just so MS will let you have access to your internet on games that you just bought, they basically lock out your MP on your game.

It costs nothing to have FREE online gaming, and it makes your system more attractive to the consumer. I'm sorry your getting ripped off and everyone else isn't. If this bothers you (which by making this thread clearly shows it does) then either cancel your your Live subscription or just buy a PS3.

ShadowMoses900

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

What's the matter, you to broke to pay monthly fees? Damn I get sick of kids complaining about prices here. :(

Bigboi500

It's a matter of principles. Im not paying for something that i can get for free elsewhere.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Who the heck wants to pay monthly fees? Especially when you can get them for free elsewhere.FlamesOfGrey

It's a matter of principles. Im not paying for something that i can get for free elsewhere.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You do realise that it costs next to nothing to let people play online for FREE right? All your doing is using YOUR OWN internet as badnwidth and connecting to another person's connection (the Host) or the other way around sometimes (if your the Host). All XBL is doing is charging you twice for the same thing, you pay for your internet each month, and then you pay again just so MS will let you have access to your internet on games that you just bought, they basically lock out your MP on your game.

It costs nothing to have FREE online gaming, and it makes your system more attractive to the consumer. I'm sorry your getting ripped off and everyone else isn't. If this bothers you (which by making this thread clearly shows it does) then either cancel your your Live subscription or just buy a PS3.

SW__Troll

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

It costs virtually nothing to let people play their games over their own internet connection. p2p doesn't really cost anything, dedicated servers do though. Which ironically PSN has MORE games with dedicated servers than XBL (which is almost always p2p).

You Lems sure do get what you pay for huh? ;)

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You do realise that it costs next to nothing to let people play online for FREE right? All your doing is using YOUR OWN internet as badnwidth and connecting to another person's connection (the Host) or the other way around sometimes (if your the Host). All XBL is doing is charging you twice for the same thing, you pay for your internet each month, and then you pay again just so MS will let you have access to your internet on games that you just bought, they basically lock out your MP on your game.

It costs nothing to have FREE online gaming, and it makes your system more attractive to the consumer. I'm sorry your getting ripped off and everyone else isn't. If this bothers you (which by making this thread clearly shows it does) then either cancel your your Live subscription or just buy a PS3.

ShadowMoses900

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

It costs virtually nothing to let people play their games over their own internet connection. p2p doesn't really cost anything, dedicated servers do though. Which ironically PSN has MORE games with dedicated servers than XBL (which is almost always p2p).

You Lems sure do get what you pay for huh? ;)

So you think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You do realise that it costs next to nothing to let people play online for FREE right? All your doing is using YOUR OWN internet as badnwidth and connecting to another person's connection (the Host) or the other way around sometimes (if your the Host). All XBL is doing is charging you twice for the same thing, you pay for your internet each month, and then you pay again just so MS will let you have access to your internet on games that you just bought, they basically lock out your MP on your game.

It costs nothing to have FREE online gaming, and it makes your system more attractive to the consumer. I'm sorry your getting ripped off and everyone else isn't. If this bothers you (which by making this thread clearly shows it does) then either cancel your your Live subscription or just buy a PS3.

SW__Troll

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

SW__Troll

Do you think it costs $0 to run Amazon?

No but it's their own expense related to running a store on the internet.

2 consoles connecting over the internet is not a service of Xbox Live.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

sts106mat

literally. I want to read comments of all opinions, but his aren't even opinions He has a blog (don't bother) where he admits all he's doing is trolling. I appreciate that he knows he's a waste of time, but he doesn't seem able to mature to the point where he knows he's a waste of time and then stops being a waste of time. Nothing personal against him, but he does it deliberately so he shouldn't get his feelings hurt by me calling him out on it.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

LazySloth718

Do you think it costs $0 to run Amazon?

No but it's their own expense related to running a store on the internet.

2 consoles connecting over the internet is not a service of Xbox Live.

That'd be a wonderful analogy if both Amazon and XBL provided the same services

there is little point typing a long paragraph

sts106mat

As for his blog, he called me a liar recently and we went back and forth. I like to look people up in those situations to see if they're full of crap.

The short version is: A friend of his died so now he feels like it's okay to treat everyone on here like crap and act like a bully.

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

You think it costs $0 to run XBL and PSN?

SW__Troll

Do you think it costs $0 to run Amazon?

No but it's their own expense related to running a store on the internet.

2 consoles connecting over the internet is not a service of Xbox Live.

That'd be a wonderful analogy if both Amazon and XBL provided the same services

Amazon provides more services than XBL.

Remember, peer to peer networking is not a service.

It is your choice to continue being ripped off, but don't lecture me about what it costs to run a service.

PSN has 150+ dedicated servers for games.

XBL has very few.

Would you rather blab on the mic or have a lag free connection.

I know what's more valuable to me.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Do you think it costs $0 to run Amazon?

No but it's their own expense related to running a store on the internet.

2 consoles connecting over the internet is not a service of Xbox Live.

LazySloth718

That'd be a wonderful analogy if both Amazon and XBL provided the same services

Amazon provides more services than XBL.

Remember, peer to peer networking is not a service.

It is your choice to continue being ripped off, but don't lecture me about what it costs to run a service.

PSN has 150+ dedicated servers for games.

XBL has very few.

Would you rather blab on the mic or have a lag free connection.

I know what's more valuable to me.

Ok, well call me the day when the ONLY FEATURE of XBL is playing games online. Perhaps I'll agree with you.

And if you can provide a source for your numbers that'd be nice too.

IF you get POM or whatever the official magazine is they state that they will (almost definitely) charge next gen. Look in the issues from last spring (2011), it was in one of the articles in the front.

Keep in mind that Sony doesn't care about system wars, neither does Microsoft. TO them it's just whats financially viable, they don't look at it like it's a club.

Ok, well call me the day when the ONLY FEATURE of XBL is playing games online. Perhaps I'll agree with you.

And if you can provide a source for your numbers that'd be nice too.

SW__Troll

Then they should charge for the services they actually provide, rather than the services that your ISP provides.

Do you think it's justifiable to charge a fee to access your Netflix account?

Here is a link for you to read :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSN

I wont have a problem with monthly fee fees if more games have dedicated servers i don't understand why i should pay for p2pmetal_zombie

When they can actually keep your credit card info safe. :lol:

When they can actually keep your credit card info safe. :lol:

DireOwl

PSN+ already exists.

It's whether they will start charging for online play, and I think they'll fight to keep that feature free. It's a selling point over the competition at the end of the day.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

When they can actually keep your credit card info safe. :lol:

Syn_Valence

They're just playing!

Well today's Friday so... never.

It might be, but it also costs hundreds of millions of dollars to operate.

SW__Troll

Source?