So i was right in the end again.

Is 2018 the xbox one X is here is powerful and all but i notice something since the xbox one X was first announced as Project Scorpio.

DX12 hyping was basically stop by MS,so was cloud hyping as well.

Fast forward again to 2018,and you don't hear anything about DX12 any more,and the cloud is probably what is holding back CD3.

I think the XBO X proved without shadow of a doubt that DX12 was basically a hoax and that would never increase power like it was hyped,and the cloud was even more of a hoax,in the end of the day CPU usage on consoles has always been streamline and while on PC DX12 or Mantle and other may have bring some performance games on consoles it just didn't.

You also dont hear about UWP, exclooosives or uncompromised 4k anymore. Basically MS spent this gen talking crap.

@tormentos: People actually believed all that lol? I thought it was widely agreed it was PR talk meant to damage control the humiliation the Xbox was suffering at the hands of the PS4 and now the Switch tol.

Funny how all the equivalent bits to DX12 on the PS4 isn't talked about no more either.

Does that make them a hoax also.

No new tech comes out gets talked about (often over hyped by all companies), settles in and then taken as the norm. At which point it doesn't get spoken about.

Just like FP16 was going to make the Pro match the X.

You mean companies bringing new products to market hype up those products? yeah I concede you're right how did nobody else see this?

Companies hype their products in a capitalist free market and water is wet. Yep you really called it big guy ?

I remember when Microsoft claimed the cloud would change gaming forever.

Then nothing happened in the last 5 years and Crackdown 3 looks to become the biggest flop of the generation.

Blackace did at the time, he was hyping DX12 on original Xbox One to believe it'll give the system a huge boost in graphics, but later on, Phil Spencer had to clarify this and the whole DX12 inside Xbox One was nothing but a sham.

Hell, DX12 itself is a failure by MS and it sure did blew up in their faces.

If people are stupid enough to swallow MS PR, there's nothing you can do about it ^^

They may even argue wait till 2020 and you'll see!!!

Some people never learn.

And el tormented believes everything Sony says. Does that mean he speaks for every Sony fan?

Every Xbox fanboy on this site thought DX12 was going to be some sort of savior. Blew up right in their faces.

Savior of what, anyone with an ounce of sense would know Xbox one wouldn't catch up and beat the PS4 performance with any kind of software?

There was a number of improvements early on to close the gap (first development kits was shocking) but that was more than DX12 and pretty standard with console releases.

Holy shit, it's almost like you have this super-power where you basically just share the same opinions as thousands of other people...

ROFLMAO and like Sony never did any of this *cough* *cough* Rapid Packed Math HAHAHAHA!

Intel released a demo showing a computer generated asteroid field, in which DirectX 12 was claimed to be 50%-70% more efficient than DirectX 11 in rendering speed and CPU power consumption.

The performance improvements of DirectX 12 on the Xbox one is not as substantial as on the PC, and everyone with half a brain knew this right from the beginning.

Thanks for the heads up there Nostradamus. ?

Ahhh, the daily cow insecurity thread.

Remember when Eddie Makuch used to post lots of DX12 articles? Those articles sure did bring out a lot of Xbox fanboys believing DX12 on Xbox One would be saving grace over the original PS4 at the time was powerful and boy, Phil Spencer told the fans it's not and it crush all the Xbox fans hopes & dreams. System Wars Xbox fans on the other hand.

Even DX12 on PC is a failure as it is.

You remember when Sony said the PS2 would be capable of Toy Story type graphics, when they said the PS3 would cure cancer, PS3 would produce the greatest graphics ever created because of the cell or you'd get 2 jobs to get one? Cows sure did eat all that shit up didn't they.

Good times were had by all......except cows

They basically threw the kitchen sink at PRing their way out of having to spend money on games that would walk the walk for all their talk. XBox diehards settled for a revolving door of talk, so that is what MS gave them. It's only ever been that simple, since 2014 onward. You could set a clock to the chalkboard all generation long.

Tick - A promise is made

Tock - A promise is broken and another promise made.

@kingtito: For it's time, I never knew Toy Story was used for benchmarks games and I wasn't even around when Sony said such a thing that PS2 would match Pixars graphics, so I really can't say much on that topic, despite I heard stories about it lol.

Riiiiggghhhtttttt because it was a choice between PR or games. One had nothing to do with the other but you keep trying cowgenja

@kingtito: his statement sums up perfectly what ms has been doing this entire gen

@davillain-: Oh yea, the daily Makuch articles. Back when dx12 was going to improve performance by like 50% as the xbots would preach. I miss those days.

Choosing PR over games? Hahaha ummm apples and oranges cows

So then everybody is and was on the same page from the beginning?

I remember many lemmings falling for it,and some like Blackace claimed 3 to 5 times performance increase..lol

Which are those.?

lol.

Please quote people saying that,i was one of those that claimed FP16 would help the PS4 Pro but i sure as hell noted that it would not beat the xbox one X ever.

UNlike Ronvalencia and several lemmings who took a ride on the DX12 train,and unlike the xbox one X where ron claimed it would surpass a 1080GTX based on nothing but FP16.

@sts106mat said:

"Reporting Live for Sony TV

It's Me...........Eltooorrmooooo"

Hahahahaa i freaking love that pic..

I was right since the beginning when I said these consoles were shit. LOL

So, how was Fable and Scalebound? Got a release date for Crackdown, yet? Sequel to Quantum Break still exclusive brah? Do you even XBox One or do you think everyone else has the attention span of a goldfish around here?

Spoiler alert: Cloud Power is still infinite as long as you don't actually have to show anyone...

NO.

And unlike you i didn't change my stance from graphics don't matter to they matter.hahaha

Devs React to DX 12 Doubling Xbox One GPU Speed

Name of the thread.

Your Reply on the very first page.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/devs-react-to-dx-12-doubling-xbox-one-gpu-speed-31196539/

You make an argument for it you try to validate Brad Wardell claim,only to try to play it safer by the next sentence only to end saying it would have BIG improvements.

So yeah you were on the DX12 hype train as well.

Doubling the xbox one performance means 2.6TF of power from 1.3TF,there is no other way to look at it,double power requires double resources or even more.

So basically yeah i had common sense you didn't.

And yet you're in it.......

I've had enough talking about it now, there's no point until E3 (unless someone releases something earlier). I will end by saying I'm under no elusions that the PS4 has better hardware and expect it to settle at 900p/1080p everything the same and if you where that bothered at that point you would get a PC.

Nice of you to take the time to dive into history 4 year ago, but that's basically where you live. At the time it was you screaming that the difference between Xbox One and PS4 was 720p and 1080p. DX12 and better development kits (amongst other things) made a massive impact to bringing the gap to the correct amount. Exactly what I said would happen.

Time and time again I said it would be 900p and 1080p or 720p and 900p and in 90%+ games that had a difference this was the case.

You are the only person I've seen on this forum that has the requirement to actually create a post to try and boast you where right about something 4 years ago. Its not cool man.

So you're saying those games are delayed or canceled because MS decided to use money for PR? Hhahahaah you pathetic delusional cow or was it lem....help me out with that.

Delusional much cowgenja? So sorry you never got that apology from MS.......or I'm not cause you're a sad cow/lem (so confused on your status)

Try harder cowgenja

I know right...ppffftttt cows. They sure thought they were getting dual HDMI outputs, RRRIIIIDDDGGGGGEEEE RRRRRRAACCCCEEEERRRRR!!!!, and 2 jobs...........believing PR sure does suck

Lot of ownage in here

I really miss Sega. I would love a new Sega console at this point. Nintendo rockin it with the Switch has really brought back memories of the fun filled Sega consoles of old. Even the Dreamcast was amazing but just got crushed by the competition but if you look at those games it was such a fun gaming console. Microsoft should really stick with PC.

Oh, I thought it was clear. Checked my computer settings to make sure I am typing English and everything. I said you got PR instead of games.

@tormentos: Yes dude, I'm totally going to waste my time searching through your posts. Hold on, I'll get back to you as soon as I can.

@elitegaming247: Always the case sadly. Nothing matters until a console pushes it and then it suddenly is the absolute factor for games even if it means absolute nothing.

And the endless spining excluding whatever information in order to make it look like something that is not.

The X is 40% more powerful than Pro. /thread

@xhawk27: the pro has 100% of the best looking games /thread

Aren't you the same guy who got butth.urt 2 years ago because I stated that Death Stranding won't come out until 2020 and you were saying that 2017 and 2018 were a strong possibility?

So....people hyped that Xbox would be more powerful, and is, but since its not cause of DX12, people are fools?!?

I rather people here have opinions and "blow up in their faces", than have a bunch of people with no opinions telling others they're dumb for having them. At least I can argue and talk shit on someone for a reason. What is there really to say.

State a lie as fact, double down then keep repeating it and stupid people will believe it especially when the 'gaming press' read out the PR statements for them.

They spent an entire gen spouting snake oil because they got wrecked. And for some reason, people think we should still buy their box. They have no ethics when it comes to business, all because they can't take an L.