So i was right in the end again.

https://www.foxnews.com/story/sony-playstation-3-can-help-cure-cancer

Sony are so much better.

That's the news headline but the PS3 were actually used for research. The PS3 group for Folding@home was the one with more processing power. So yeah, at least that wasn't BS unlike many of the stuff MS has said this gen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster

This is the single worst post I've seen on this board yet. You're trying to tell us that Sony using their consoles to help with medical research is the same as Microsoft lying to their customers all gen about Xbox One performance upgrades until they could stall for a mid-gen console? This is exactly why Microsoft feels emboldened to pull the garbage they do because of enablers like you.

come on I'm all for medical research but to claim its a supercomputer is just a PR stunt at the time it needed a lift, plus most of the claims where made by dev's/fans and not Microsoft.

@tormentos: How can you be right again when you have never been right once lol.

Sony made some exaggerated claims last gen, more than MS, but not really the research part (a cluster is by definition a supercomputer). This gen MS has been much more overboard with the marketing than Sony, Sony has been pretty straightforward and without much BS, MS has been the opposite.

The Mighty X1X 4k BC DX12 StormCloud MonsterBox MasterRace sure has'em shook. lol :P

People did. I made threads about it and people were in there quoting developers talking about the Xbox One was going to double its performance with DX12. A lot of cloud hype also happened around the time Crackdown 3 destruction was demoed.

The supercomputer claims are one thing, but it sounded like you were shitting on the purpose behind that quote.

Anyway, the fans didn't come up with terms like, "the power of the cloud" then boasted about the applications of DX12 toward their games. MS planted those seeds so their fans can run with it. They coax people on Twitter for a reason. They'll say just about anything to keep their name out there on social media when it comes to Xbox, whether it's true or not. Sony had their fair share of BS last gen, but MS seems to give zero shits about what they say about their consoles.

They know as long as they can stir up that anti-Sony resistance, akin to the MAGA movement. They know they'll be called out a lot less.

There is no difference. All factions do it and will continue to for the foreseeable future.

Really? They haven't? Well sucks I have to be always be online or can't sell my used games and all. Sure wish MS flipped a 180 prior to launching......oh wait they did. You must be talking about sales huh? Something every fanboy should prioritize above all else. I mean they do get profits from all those console sales don't they?

Of course games would be a matter of opinion right?

You actually think coming in 3rd place last gen was an accomplishment? Hahahahahahaah they had the largest market share of any console manufacturer. They were coming off the most successful console in history and managed to sell almost half of what they sold the previous gen. Everyone minus cows saw it as an epic fail. Even Sony say it as an epic fail which is why they went the direction they did with the PS4.

Still looks like it's selling to me. Maybe not as well as the PS4 or Switch but still selling. Only cows believe the shit that you just posted so I guess that would make you a cow.

Happy cowing

Last time I checked there are plenty of games to play cow/lem or are you one of the delusionals that believe it has no games because it shares a lot with PC?

Like I said, try harder cowgenja........ maybe one day you'll get that apology

Sorry cow but PS3 finished in 3rd at the start of the 8th gen launch. It sucks for cows but it's true.

Sony's PS3 $499 360 $399 =/= $200 difference. Xbox managed to sell 24M in gen 6 while the PS was well over 100M. MS took Sonys share in gen 7 and forced Sony to change it's approach for gen 8. Just go ahead and thank MS and be on your way cow.

MS did exactly what they were supposed to do and that was take market share and get a foothold in the console market. Sony was the biggest loser and lost the most market share despite being the most popular brand by far. Epic fail and ended in 3rd place. Sucks for you cow.

Sorry cow but you're still under the false impression Sony wasn't an epic fail last gen. Just thank MS and go back to inserting your head up Sony's ass.

BS! The Wii won last-gen and both PS3/Xbox 360 came in second place. In other words, it's a draw!

I would say the PS3 probably sold more since it was discontinued later than the 360. And all of that with a whole year less in the market and the 360 with inflated sales due to unprecedented failure rates.

BS!!!! PS3 came in 3rd....choke on it cow.....j/k

Except when gen 8 started the official numbers had the 360 ahead. Placement is determined by who is ahead at the start of next gen. After it starts sale after mean nothing except for the corporations making the sales. I know it sucks huh

Yes we all heard that and it only took 7 years to catch up. 7 years to catch a console that managed to sell only 24M the gen before. A console plagued with hardware issues going against the monster manufacturer in Sony. The console that was supposed to be surpassed in sales within the 1st couple of months. Yep those WW sales were fantastic!!!!!

Hey pot, I ever introduce you to kettle????

Stardock CEO Brad Wardell who made the claims has experience of working with AMD Mantle and DirectX 11 and now 12. He has the experience to back up his claims.

Dev's will be sceptical until they have seen it in action.

I don't believe it will double performance except in specific situation's but it will have a big improvement.

You were in period.

You try to validate Brad claim and you claimed it would have BIG improvements which didn't happen.

Bullshit what bringed the gap closer was the 10% reservation MS dropped for Kinect and not actually DX12 or newer dev kits,you have 10% of your system reserve you kill that reservation and you get something back that is what happened and still thye PS4 deliver 1080p and some other improvements over the xbox one version still to this year.

Yeah quantify 900p vs 1080p and ad that many times the PS4 also has faster frames or some effect the xbox one version lack which ad to that gap.

@tormentos said:

SinceFunny thing is i didn't see you complain when it was Ronvalencia claiming Scorpio exceeded a 1080GTX based on nothing but FP16,which he believed was going to be inside scorpio..lol

Scorpio is 6TF and he believed it was Vega based that mean with FP16 it was 12TF,which i did make fun off. lol

FP16 may boost performance but will never double performance simply because not all operations can be FP16.

@tormentos said:

Downplaying FP16 is a joke,as much as over hyping it as some sort of secret sauce,when Ronvalencia claimed that Scorpio was 12TF using FP16 not a single lemming challenge his argument,only i did and i knew it was Mark Cerny who first make the claim about 8.4TF, if FP16 was ideal for all purposes i would agree but is not.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/a-year-later-scorpio-doesnt-have-significant-vega--33388038/?page=1

Let me save you the pain of looking.

So no i didn't hype FP16 as some sort of secret sauce,it was Ronvalencia a lemming who did,well he did until he found out Scorpio didn't have FP16 then he instantly begin to downplay it..Hahahahaaa

@kingtito: LOL keep playing delusional.

I can also believe this as well. Xbox 360 may have a good start back in 2005, but MS got so lazy after 2010 with the exclusive games and too much focus on media, the 360 did lost a lot of momentum and PS3 did sure creep up to 360 later on.

Fair do's apologies I wouldn't shit on the purpose, if you knew me you would understand why.

MS got desperate this gen, due to the poor start. Often though its dev's making the claims and MS keeping quiet.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/dx12-and-its-total-failure-on-xbox-one-33361056/?page=1

You really need to get a new hobby @tormentos and stop digging up the past, doing it once is bad enough, but to try and self gloat again is a sign of desperation.

WTF...Hahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That was folding@home and not only the PS3 took part on that research so did many PC and manby GPU's using compute as well.

And the PS3 did help on the fight i don't see there where sony is saying it will cure cancer.

Over 15 million users took part in the project, contributing a total of over 100 million computation hours. The official Folding@home site says that the PS3's unusual Cell processor was uniquely suited to the task and offered computational speeds far in advance of typical PCs or competing consoles like the Xbox 360.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/10/22/3537502/sony-removing-ps3-folding-home

Please tell me what sony invented there.?

Foldinghome was real DX12 and the cloud power were not,at least not on xbox where CPU usage was never bad to begin with.

Lets see windows with 171,795 CPU's was generating 163TF of computational power,the PS3 with 33,825 which is what? 5 times less processors? Was generating 805TF of computations power which is what? Almost 5 times more performance than PC were?

The whole supercomputer crap was a bit off but the PS3 was spanking CPU on PC in folding home badly.

Windows had 137970 more PC's than the PS3 yet was generating 5 times less performance seen pretty super to me,for every PS3 there were like 5 PC.

Yet people somehow see the xbox 360 as a success with a 50% fail rate and a year head start all generation $100 cheaper and still ended 3rd.

And no the machines didn't stop selling when the xbox one or PS4 came out,just like the PS2 didn't stop selling when the 360 came out.

You must have me confused with you cows. Sorry cow but your faction is without doubt the most delusional

blah blah blah bunch of cow fanboy bullshit and denial.....about sums it up.

Thought I introduced you to kettle mr pot.

You do cow. It's the reason you responded to me in the 1st place. Might want to check yo self before you wreck yo self cow

yeah i remember kuu and some other lemmings were hyping up dx12 and kingtito hyping it up to be like the end all be all

it didn't do anything and its just trash man ps4 is stronger than the xbox one and some games on pro are running better than the x like call of duty higher framerates thats just sad

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@BenjaminBanklin said:

They spent an entire gen spouting snake oil because they got wrecked. And for some reason, people think we should still buy their box. They have no ethics when it comes to business, all because they can't take an L.

https://www.foxnews.com/story/sony-playstation-3-can-help-cure-cancer

Sony are so much better.

WTF...Hahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That was folding@home and not only the PS3 took part on that research so did many PC and manby GPU's using compute as well.

And the PS3 did help on the fight i don't see there where sony is saying it will cure cancer.

Over 15 million users took part in the project, contributing a total of over 100 million computation hours. The official Folding@home site says that the PS3's unusual Cell processor was uniquely suited to the task and offered computational speeds far in advance of typical PCs or competing consoles like the Xbox 360.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/10/22/3537502/sony-removing-ps3-folding-home

Please tell me what sony invented there.?

Foldinghome was real DX12 and the cloud power were not,at least not on xbox where CPU usage was never bad to begin with.

@tdkmillsy said:

come on I'm all for medical research but to claim its a supercomputer is just a PR stunt at the time it needed a lift, plus most of the claims where made by dev's/fans and not Microsoft.

Lets see windows with 171,795 CPU's was generating 163TF of computational power,the PS3 with 33,825 which is what? 5 times less processors? Was generating 805TF of computations power which is what? Almost 5 times more performance than PC were?

The whole supercomputer crap was a bit off but the PS3 was spanking CPU on PC in folding home badly.

Windows had 137970 more PC's than the PS3 yet was generating 5 times less performance seen pretty super to me,for every PS3 there were like 5 PC.

@kingtito said:

There is no difference. All factions do it and will continue to for the foreseeable future.

Really? They haven't? Well sucks I have to be always be online or can't sell my used games and all. Sure wish MS flipped a 180 prior to launching......oh wait they did. You must be talking about sales huh? Something every fanboy should prioritize above all else. I mean they do get profits from all those console sales don't they?

Of course games would be a matter of opinion right?

You actually think coming in 3rd place last gen was an accomplishment? Hahahahahahaah they had the largest market share of any console manufacturer. They were coming off the most successful console in history and managed to sell almost half of what they sold the previous gen. Everyone minus cows saw it as an epic fail. Even Sony say it as an epic fail which is why they went the direction they did with the PS4.

Still looks like it's selling to me. Maybe not as well as the PS4 or Switch but still selling. Only cows believe the shit that you just posted so I guess that would make you a cow.

Happy cowing

Yet people somehow see the xbox 360 as a success with a 50% fail rate and a year head start all generation $100 cheaper and still ended 3rd.

And no the machines didn't stop selling when the xbox one or PS4 came out,just like the PS2 didn't stop selling when the 360 came out.

Launch consoles el tormented. Corrected it for you but somehow I doubt you'll comprehend it.

You mean started $100 more expensive, coming off the most successful console in history with ALL the momentum and finished 3rd. Fixed it for you el tormented

No but the race for 1st, 2nd and 3rd did stop. Once the new gen launches that officially ends the previous gen...SWs rules el tormented..choke on it son

Bag it..

The PS2 sold 156 million units not 100 millions blind lemming,by your pathetic argument it didn't apparently because once the 360 came out in 2005 the units sold stopped counting somehow..lol

But this is the shitty argument you are trying to hold to,to try and portrait the PS3 as some sort of failure,the xbox starting at $299 could not sell 30 million units,the PS3 started at $600 sold more than 86 millions,you make the math on which sucked more.

Fact is if the 360 started at $600 it would have die a horrible death even more if the PS3 was $100 less or up to $300 less,like it was the case on a core 360 vs a premium PS3,and still sony make a comeback and sended MS to the last place after starting the generation 1 year before everyone else.

The most successful platform mean nothing when the PS3 was double the price of the PS2,look at how badly the xbox one was selling and was just $100 more than a premium 360 for like 7 months only.

NO it did not and when the final tally was set the results were clear the 360 endes selling less consoles than the wii and PS3 even that had millions of rebuy units do to failure.

The generation ended like this.

The final tally was this.

wii >PS3 >xbox 360.

The rest is just nonsense trying to twist the final results.

Lets not forget GDDR5 and HUMA.

NO you need a backbone.

You rided DX12 pretty simple and i prove it.

That's why I said more than 100M el tormented. Comprehension strikes again.

Except according to cows they purchased 2 or 3 360s el tormented. That would == more than $600. MIND == BLOWN huh el tormented

Funny you should say that because that is exactly what you do on a daily basis.

I quoted someone and said in a specific scenario it would have big effects, which specific benchmarks showed. I also said it wouldn't match the PS4. You knew the Xbox One 720p resolution got sorted early on (as you have stated in this thread), yet you constantly shouted the Xbox One was a 720p console since then.

As far as you are concerned if someone posts in a thread even with any kind of rationality it puts you in a certain camp. Its like being in a playground.

Roll on next year for the same old chapter from the famously boring @tormentos

Then your memory is as shit as your post. Why won't you have el tormented look thru my post to find me hyping DX12 to be the end all be all cow.

Now shhhhhhhhhh grown folks are talking

Says the cow that just had to respond to a post of mine then crying about last gen sales then claiming who cares. Hahaha typical delusional cry baby cow.

Once again says a cow that litters the front page with post constantly bashing the console they've deemed irrelevant. Just screams of insecurity if you ask me but by all means continue to deny it cow.

What do you get when a manufacturer "wins" a gen? You get a cut of the profilts? Hahaha how pathetic that your life revolves around some random no caring company "wins" a console sales war for a gen.

Thought you didn't care about last gen sales son? I see you're still crying about the PS3 landing in 3rd last gen. I know I know, it really sucks for you

Are you el tormenteds alt? Sure seems like it since your reading comprehension seems to be just as bad since, you know, I said at the start of gen 8. The sales matter not AFTER the next starts for SWs purposes. Continue your crying

NO you TRY to validate Brad wardell argument as someone whith experience to back up HIS CLAIM. In other words you try to pass his argument as been true based on his experience,DX12 never EVER deliver a 100% boost of performance on xbox one.

In Fact what we could quantify was Project Cars developer stating a 7% gain on their game which wasn't even close to 60FPS most of the time.

The xbox one still getting 720p games dude and some even lower.

Get a backbone.

The PS2 sold 156 million units,the PSone arrived at 100 million almost 10 years after release which is 4 years after the PS2 generation started,when consoles are counted the N64 sold 32 million the PSone 104.

That is how it went.

lol that bold part is funny coming from someone who OWN 3 xbox one including a X1X,and the xbox one doesn't have even close a fail rate of the 360.

Imagine how bad it was last gen,oh i remember now all xbox 360 came with a eternal warranty that never expire...Hahahahahaaha

Quote me saying it would receive 100% improvements, good old Tormentos when in doubt put words in someones mouth.

720p - So is the PRO you know the console designed for 4k TV's and advertised as a 4k console.

Ummm ok. I'll chalk that one up to your piss poor reading skills as usual. It really is astounding how poor it is, on a reading forum no less.

Must be funny for you considering that has nothing to do with what you said but we'll chalk that up to comprehension skills as well. Damn dude, how do you function.

It must really burn inside knowing people actually used a warranty by a console manufacturer to replace a broken one. Guess having no choice but to pay to replace a one due to DRE or YLOD really really sucks huh. I'm guessing you never had those issues since you really haven't owned many consoles much less owned one at launch.

Cows not you in particular. Referring to cows as in YOUR faction. I'll use pictures and large letters next time

Nah cow, you can't handle PS3 came in 3rd. That's why you just had to post a response to me. You're still crying about it. Funny how you keep responding yet claim you don't care. Sure, we totally believe you

Sooooo sad we're all in a gaming forum arguing over companies that only care about our money. Would you like a tissue kid?

But I don't care about that fact kid. IF you bothered to read or at least understand it, you'd have noticed I said once gen 8 started. SWs rules kid, learn them, live them, love them or the Sony forums is that way------>

Squandered? They sold more than triple what the OG Xbox did. They took Sony's NA market share away and forced them to re-evaluate what the PS4 was/is going to be. They squandered this gen but not last. You need to pull your head out of Sony's ass kid. It's clouding your judgement.

I see I need to bring kettle back eh pot. They only meltdown is coming from the kid that has an issue with someone saying the PS3 came in 3rd last gen. Just look at your responses LOLOLOLOLOLOL It would be sad if it wasn't so pathetic

@tormentos: Why would I bother engaging in a conversation with Ron? You are just about the max level of crazy I can endure around here. Everything he posts is next level crazy.

Na if you are going to chalk it on something,try your lack of spine or your bullshit fanboysm.

No it doesn't at all i actually use it as well,but unlike you my 360 didn't have an eternal warranty,mine expire in 3 years,so my launch unit by 2008 was out of warranty.

The fun part is how you selectively ignore facts presented to and you continue to spew the same lies and bullshit all around,all people who bought an xbox 360 from launch by 2008 were out of warranty,2006 models in 2009,2007 models on 2010,2008 models on 2011 < this was reality which you chose to ignore,even if you got a new model or a repair one your warranty was limit to the remaining time you have left,you didn't get a repair console and 3 more years,if you bought a launch unit and got repair in august august 2007 you didn't have 3 more years you only had 1 year and 2 months left.

So all 2006 model by 2009 were out of warranty when the S model came in 2010 basically there were millions without warranty MILLIONS. So please spare me your lies and bullshit RROD sparked millions of rebuys,and no DRE nor YLOD were even close to RROD,in fact the xbox,xbox 360,PS3,PS2,dreamcast all suffer from DRE as any optical drive will suffer from it.

You know what the truly sad part is? That if we overlap the xbox one sales vs the PS3 ones,the PS3 without effort would kick the xbox one ass. So what happen to MS market share? I guess when you don't have to rebuy millions of units is not quite the same...Hahahahaa

Sony PlayStation 3 sales hit 50 million worldwide

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/sony-playstation-3-sales-hit-50-million-worldwide/

You know what the hilarious thing is about this? That you get in flames when some one call the xbox one a failure,yet you can't stop pretending that the PS3 was a failure even that sales wise it sold faster per year that the 360 and is killing the xbox one if we compare sales.

The xbox one hasn't even hit 40 millions and in 1 month it turns 5 years old,it took the PS3 4 years and 5 months to hit 50 millions.

By november 2011 it had like 56 millions a nice gap on the xbox one which you consider not a failure somehow..lol

Don't mind kingtito he can't even admit been a lemming,let alone been wrong.lol

He actually believe the PS3 ended 3rd..lol

This gen has been a total disaster for XBOX, hanging on for its life at this point.