So if MGS:GZ looks best on PC and better on 360 how will cows react?

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#51 platniumgamer
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ignore all facts and say that it looks best on ps3.

inb4uall

you're delusional, bro. let's just ignore that halo reach has the best graphics on console as well.

stop saying that, bro! your making the other three of us look stupid:evil:

you're making us look fat. :cool:

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#52 parkurtommo
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Proof?

It is coming to PS3, you just need to accept the fact that PS3 can do great graphics too and your precious PC isn't as great as you think it is. I'm sorry you wasted so much money and time on it for nothing, but this game is proof that PS3 can do great graphics too.

You will be the one throwing a fit when it get's released on PS3 and looks and plays just like the trailer. But to be completely honest, I thought this was a next gen game when I saw it. Best looking game I have ever seen in my life.

ShadowMoses900

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

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No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...
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#53 Cheleman
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

you're delusional, bro. let's just ignore that halo reach has the best graphics on console as well.

platniumgamer

stop saying that, bro! your making the other three of us look stupid:evil:

you're making us look fat. :cool:

:lol:

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#54 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Proof?

It is coming to PS3, you just need to accept the fact that PS3 can do great graphics too and your precious PC isn't as great as you think it is. I'm sorry you wasted so much money and time on it for nothing, but this game is proof that PS3 can do great graphics too.

You will be the one throwing a fit when it get's released on PS3 and looks and plays just like the trailer. But to be completely honest, I thought this was a next gen game when I saw it. Best looking game I have ever seen in my life.

Sushiglutton

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

Honestly that's such marketing BS :lol:. I mean why, in the name of Zeus butthole, would they use a 7 year old PC for a super important marketing demo of a multimillion dollar project. I mean seriously Kojima I don't buy it.

A PC with current gen specs could imply just about any hardware combination availible on the market, it doesn't necessary implies the PC used to run it is matched with 360/PS3 power...

Also, read the other link, high-spec PC is mentioned. So as far as things go, current gen specs could mean anything...

The statement is strongly open to interpretation...

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#55 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] stop saying that, bro! your making the other three of us look stupid:evil:

Cheleman

you're making us look fat. :cool:

:lol:

shut up:cry:

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#56 platniumgamer
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

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No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

parkurtommo

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...

i'm almost more credible than him now. :)

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#57 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

platniumgamer

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...

i'm almost more credible than him now. :)

except you keep saying halo reach is the console graphics king:evil:

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#58 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

parkurtommo

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...

Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.



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#59 platniumgamer
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[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...inb4uall

i'm almost more credible than him now. :)

except you keep saying halo reach is the console graphics king:evil:

sorry... you can't handle the truth :shock:

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#60 Cheleman
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plat be trollingz:P

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#61 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Proof?

It is coming to PS3, you just need to accept the fact that PS3 can do great graphics too and your precious PC isn't as great as you think it is. I'm sorry you wasted so much money and time on it for nothing, but this game is proof that PS3 can do great graphics too.

You will be the one throwing a fit when it get's released on PS3 and looks and plays just like the trailer. But to be completely honest, I thought this was a next gen game when I saw it. Best looking game I have ever seen in my life.

ShadowMoses900

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

A strange supercomputer you got there, if PS3 is like 30 PCs in one, than why can't it run complex 3D games at full 1080p and 60 FPS?

Why isn't MGS:GZ proudly showcased on the "supercomputer" PS3?

Why BF3 can't handle 64 player maps on consoles?

I'd post you a TLoU pic to show you how well TLoU rivals PC games, but too lazy atm, sorry :(

As for 360, game will hold up fine, will probably come with multiple discs, but aside from that, all good, hardware-wise, 360 and the PS3 are on the equal ground more or less...

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#62 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

ShadowMoses900

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...

Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.



Trolololololololololol no wonder we still can't win the war in IRAQ. :lol:

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#63 Rocker6
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Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.

ShadowMoses900

Pretty words, but all that proves useless in practice, when "teh supercomputer" can't run complex 3D engines in full 1080p with stable frame rates...

You're worse than a troll, you're a brainwashed drone lacking any form of rational, critical or independant thought...

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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Proof?

It is coming to PS3, you just need to accept the fact that PS3 can do great graphics too and your precious PC isn't as great as you think it is. I'm sorry you wasted so much money and time on it for nothing, but this game is proof that PS3 can do great graphics too.

You will be the one throwing a fit when it get's released on PS3 and looks and plays just like the trailer. But to be completely honest, I thought this was a next gen game when I saw it. Best looking game I have ever seen in my life.

ShadowMoses900

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

I honestly suspect you're fakeboying at this point.

You've become a cow parody.

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#65 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...inb4uall

Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.



Trolololololololololol no wonder we still can't win the war in IRAQ. :lol:

LOL, that won't end well! ;)

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#66 Sun_Universe
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

i'm almost more credible than him now. :)

platniumgamer

except you keep saying halo reach is the console graphics king:evil:

sorry... you can't handle the truth :shock:

You are a sheep and cow in disguised.

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#67 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

Rocker6

Honestly that's such marketing BS :lol:. I mean why, in the name of Zeus butthole, would they use a 7 year old PC for a super important marketing demo of a multimillion dollar project. I mean seriously Kojima I don't buy it.

A PC with current gen specs could imply just about any hardware combination availible on the market, it doesn't necessary implies the PC used to run it is matched with 360/PS3 power...

Also, read the other link, high-spec PC is mentioned. So as far as things go, current gen specs could mean anything...

The statement is strongly open to interpretation...

I see, yeah you can interpret it in both ways. Ok my apologize to Hideo (and to Nick Cage for randomly quoting him).
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

ShadowMoses900

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...

Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.



Off topic but when I read this, the first thing I thought was how much would the ps3 be behind the 360 if it wasn't for the Air Force buying them?
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#69 platniumgamer
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[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] except you keep saying halo reach is the console graphics king:evil:

Sun_Universe

sorry... you can't handle the truth :shock:

You are a sheep and cow in disguised.

neither.... i'm in the lem business. :cool:

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#70 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

Rocker6

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

A strange supercomputer you got there, if PS3 is like 30 PCs in one, than why can't it run complex 3D games at full 1080p and 60 FPS?

Why isn't MGS:GZ proudly showcased on the "supercomputer" PS3?

Why BF3 can't handle 64 player maps on consoles?

I'd post you a TLoU pic to show you how well TLoU rivals PC games, but too lazy atm, sorry :(

As for 360, game will hold up fine, will probably come with multiple discs, but aside from that, all good, hardware-wise, 360 and the PS3 are on the equal ground more or less...

You don't know anything about consoles, no matter how many times I teach you about it. Here, read and learn, it's lesson time!

First off plenty of PS3 games are in 1080p and 60 FPS, like COD, which is 1080p 60 FPS on both PS3 and 360. Skyrim is 1080p on consoles as well. So are plenty of other games.

Now that you know this, let's talk about BF. See there are actually some PS3 games like Resistance that have 64 players in it. MAG (which sucks) is like 300 people in it, BF is not 64 on consoles because the devs chose not to. That is the only reason why.

And finally, the PS3 and 360 are not equals. PS3 is far more powerful, this is why there are no games on 360 with amazing graphics. You can learn about console power here Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I also have an in-dept comparison I have done myself that I can show you. We are all uneducated about something at one point, but we can all learn. I will teach you, do not listen to your other fanboys like SeanyMcMuffins or whatever his name is (the overzealous PC fanboy).

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The engine was built for multiple platforms. If it turns out to look better 360, so be it.
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#72 Krelian-co
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I probably shouldn't indulge in these types of threads but I think this is an interesting turning point. MGS4 to cows has been one of the pinnacles of their system and they always boast how incredible the visuals are and the tech behind it. But since this new one is multiplat and they tend to look better on 360 over the PS3 and the fact that IF (stressing this) it comes to PC it will no doubt look much better as the demo shown was on PC but scaled back.

How are cows gonna react around here if their beloved MGS can actually be handles by the 360? and they can't claim it looks better on PS3 than say the PC.

seanmcloughlin

multiplats tendo to look better on 360?:lol:

dream on, pc is the only one with a noticeable difference, the rest are subhd blurry jiggies.

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#73 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

ShadowMoses900

A strange supercomputer you got there, if PS3 is like 30 PCs in one, than why can't it run complex 3D games at full 1080p and 60 FPS?

Why isn't MGS:GZ proudly showcased on the "supercomputer" PS3?

Why BF3 can't handle 64 player maps on consoles?

I'd post you a TLoU pic to show you how well TLoU rivals PC games, but too lazy atm, sorry :(

As for 360, game will hold up fine, will probably come with multiple discs, but aside from that, all good, hardware-wise, 360 and the PS3 are on the equal ground more or less...

You don't know anything about consoles, no matter how many times I teach you about it. Here, read and learn, it's lesson time!

First off plenty of PS3 games are in 1080p and 60 FPS, like COD, which is 1080p 60 FPS on both PS3 and 360. Skyrim is 1080p on consoles as well. So are plenty of other games.

Now that you know this, let's talk about BF. See there are actually some PS3 games like Resistance that have 64 players in it. MAG (which sucks) is like 300 people in it, BF is not 64 on consoles because the devs chose not to. That is the only reason why.

And finally, the PS3 and 360 are not equals. PS3 is far more powerful, this is why there are no games on 360 with amazing graphics. You can learn about console power here Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I also have an in-dept comparison I have done myself that I can show you. We are all uneducated about something at one point, but we can all learn. I will teach you, do not listen to your other fanboys like SeanyMcMuffins or whatever his name is (the overzealous PC fanboy).

LOL at that IGN comparison, it's completely broken, but I'm too lazy to correct it...

Instead, I'll focus on other stuff:

1. Very few games run on 60 FPS on consoles, and even when it happens, the frame rate won't remain stable, it'll fluctuate often.

2. There are no complex 3D games on consoles running at full 1080p, they're rendered at resolutions around 720p, than upscaled. Google native and upscaled resolutions, and learn a thing or two. While doing it, you'll find out 360 has an advantage at upscaling, since it has a built-in scalar chip, which produces great and balanced results, while PS3 is dependant on TV scalar, or on software upscaling which can be unbalanced (depends on the game and the developer)

3. Do MAG and Ressistance have destroyable enviroments? Frostbyte 2 is a newer and a much more complex engine that Ressistance or MAG engines, so your comparison is invalid.

Go ahead, show me your in-depth comparison. School starts tomorrow, I could use a laugh or two before going to sleep :)

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I don't think anyone really cares. We are all too hyped for the game that it dosen't make much of a difference at the moment.

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#75 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Proof?

It is coming to PS3, you just need to accept the fact that PS3 can do great graphics too and your precious PC isn't as great as you think it is. I'm sorry you wasted so much money and time on it for nothing, but this game is proof that PS3 can do great graphics too.

You will be the one throwing a fit when it get's released on PS3 and looks and plays just like the trailer. But to be completely honest, I thought this was a next gen game when I saw it. Best looking game I have ever seen in my life.

ShadowMoses900

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

too obvious troll, no one is that ignorant

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#76 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

A strange supercomputer you got there, if PS3 is like 30 PCs in one, than why can't it run complex 3D games at full 1080p and 60 FPS?

Why isn't MGS:GZ proudly showcased on the "supercomputer" PS3?

Why BF3 can't handle 64 player maps on consoles?

I'd post you a TLoU pic to show you how well TLoU rivals PC games, but too lazy atm, sorry :(

As for 360, game will hold up fine, will probably come with multiple discs, but aside from that, all good, hardware-wise, 360 and the PS3 are on the equal ground more or less...

Rocker6

You don't know anything about consoles, no matter how many times I teach you about it. Here, read and learn, it's lesson time!

First off plenty of PS3 games are in 1080p and 60 FPS, like COD, which is 1080p 60 FPS on both PS3 and 360. Skyrim is 1080p on consoles as well. So are plenty of other games.

Now that you know this, let's talk about BF. See there are actually some PS3 games like Resistance that have 64 players in it. MAG (which sucks) is like 300 people in it, BF is not 64 on consoles because the devs chose not to. That is the only reason why.

And finally, the PS3 and 360 are not equals. PS3 is far more powerful, this is why there are no games on 360 with amazing graphics. You can learn about console power here Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I also have an in-dept comparison I have done myself that I can show you. We are all uneducated about something at one point, but we can all learn. I will teach you, do not listen to your other fanboys like SeanyMcMuffins or whatever his name is (the overzealous PC fanboy).

LOL at that IGN comparison, it's completely broken, but I'm too lazy to correct it...

Instead, I'll focus on other stuff:

1. Very few games run on 60 FPS on consoles, and even when it happens, the frame rate won't remain stable, it'll fluctuate often.

2. There are no complex 3D games on consoles running at full 1080p, they're rendered at resolutions around 720p, than upscaled. Google native and upscaled resolutions, and learn a thing or two. While doing it, you'll find out 360 has an advantage at upscaling, since it has a built-in scalar chip, which produces great and balanced results, while PS3 is dependant on TV scalar, or on software upscaling which can be unbalanced (depends on the game and the developer)

3. Do MAG and Ressistance have destroyable enviroments? Frostbyte 2 is a newer and a much more complex engine that Ressistance or MAG engines, so your comparison is invalid.

Go ahead, show me your in-depth comparison. School starts tomorrow, I could use a laugh or two before going to sleep :)

School starts for you tomorrow? What? Mine does not start until next month. You start college pretty early.

And no IGN is right, they are tech experts who get paid for their knowledge. You are not, just some internet fanboy.

And you can laugh it off, but this destroys your argument completely. Here is my in-depth comparison, all backed up by facts.

This post proves the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, everything in this post is made up of evidence, facts, and proof. Not from me, but from people who all work in the game industry, devs, tech analysts, and even the US Military. People who know what they are talking about. So now I present to you the facts.

Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

Uncharted, Killzone, God of War ect... are all impossible on 360. It simply cannot handle them.

Killzone 2 Can't Work on Xbox 360 - Softpedia

Why God of War III is only possible on PS3 | GamesRadar

Uncharted 2 "impossible" on Xbox 360 News ? News ? PlayStation 3 ...

The 360 simply can't handle it. The devs said so themselves. In fact several devs have many things to say on PS3 and 360 power.

EA VP says the Xbox 360 is maxed out but not PS3-- Engadget

BioWare: 360 maxed out - NowGamer

PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Industry Devs - IndustryGamers

And if your dumb enough to argue with the devs, you know, people who know more than you and I do. Then I would like to see you argue with the US Military Tech Team.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

Yep they made a super computer using PS3's they even said that no other console was powerful enough to do it. Not 360 and not the Wii, just the PS3. Are you going to argue the US Military? Proud men and women who were selected and trained to be the best fighter and tech engineers for air craft and computer systes, are you going to suggest you know more than they do? Didn't think so.

And if that still doesn't do it for you, then let's look at some upcoming games shall we?

Halo 4 - Gameplay Demo Walkthrough E3 2012 [HD] (XBOX 360 ...

The Last of Us E3 2012 HD Gameplay - YouTube

God of War: Ascension E3 2012 Gameplay Demo [HD] - YouTube

No game on 360 even comes close, not even upcoming ones. And if your still going to run from the truth, then all you need to do is look at the pudding for the proof, look at the games. There is NOTHING on 360 that comes close to Uncharted or Killzone or God of War ect...nothing. It can't match it's visuals or tech. So if what you say is true, the then why haven't any 360 games done it yet?

Let's look at the best looking games for each system shall we?

Gears of War 3 Gameplay: Beast Mode -HD - YouTube

The Witcher 2: Xbox 360 HD Game Play- YouTube

Now let's look at the PS3:

Uncharted 3 'Desert Village Gameplay' HD

Uncharted 2 - Village Gameplay HD - YouTube

KILLZONE 2 (HD) GAMEPLAY - YouTube

Killzone 3: Kaznan Jungle Multiplayer Gameplay [HD]

God of War 3 - Kratos vs Cronos Boss Battle Pt 1 (HD) - YouTube

God of War 3 - Poseidon Battle HD - YouTube

There is the proof right there. You can see it all for yourself. Why can't the best looking 360 games match the PS3 games? Because it can't. It's that simple. This doesn't mean 360 is a bad console mind you, or that it has bad graphics, both Gears and Witcher look great, so does Halo 4. But you would be lying to yourself if you thought they looked just as good or better as many PS3 exclusives do.

This is the TRUTH. This is a FACT. I don't know why you just can't accept it? All the proof and evidence shows it, listen to your logic and reason, not your emotions.

There you go, all that is proof.

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#77 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

ShadowMoses900

A strange supercomputer you got there, if PS3 is like 30 PCs in one, than why can't it run complex 3D games at full 1080p and 60 FPS?

Why isn't MGS:GZ proudly showcased on the "supercomputer" PS3?

Why BF3 can't handle 64 player maps on consoles?

I'd post you a TLoU pic to show you how well TLoU rivals PC games, but too lazy atm, sorry :(

As for 360, game will hold up fine, will probably come with multiple discs, but aside from that, all good, hardware-wise, 360 and the PS3 are on the equal ground more or less...

You don't know anything about consoles, no matter how many times I teach you about it. Here, read and learn, it's lesson time!

First off plenty of PS3 games are in 1080p and 60 FPS, like COD, which is 1080p 60 FPS on both PS3 and 360. Skyrim is 1080p on consoles as well. So are plenty of other games.

Now that you know this, let's talk about BF. See there are actually some PS3 games like Resistance that have 64 players in it. MAG (which sucks) is like 300 people in it, BF is not 64 on consoles because the devs chose not to. That is the only reason why.

And finally, the PS3 and 360 are not equals. PS3 is far more powerful, this is why there are no games on 360 with amazing graphics. You can learn about console power here Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I also have an in-dept comparison I have done myself that I can show you. We are all uneducated about something at one point, but we can all learn. I will teach you, do not listen to your other fanboys like SeanyMcMuffins or whatever his name is (the overzealous PC fanboy).

COD 1080p native resolution on PS3 ???

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#78 jimmyrussle117
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Honestly I would not care.

But Hermits over exaggerate PC graphics all the time and the PS3 version will be the best because MGS is best experienced on a PlayStation system. I do not know about the 360 version, MGS4 was too addvanced for 360 to handle, so there is no way it can handle Ground Zero, it looks even better than UC 3 and TLOU.

ShadowMoses900

And why exactly would it bestexperienced on a playstation system? Also the same could be said about the PS3 not being able to handle skyrim :lol:

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I don't know. If Halo 4 scores a 6, how will lems react?
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#80 Arach666
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You guys really can´t stop feeding useless trolls these days eh? lol
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#81 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

A strange supercomputer you got there, if PS3 is like 30 PCs in one, than why can't it run complex 3D games at full 1080p and 60 FPS?

Why isn't MGS:GZ proudly showcased on the "supercomputer" PS3?

Why BF3 can't handle 64 player maps on consoles?

I'd post you a TLoU pic to show you how well TLoU rivals PC games, but too lazy atm, sorry :(

As for 360, game will hold up fine, will probably come with multiple discs, but aside from that, all good, hardware-wise, 360 and the PS3 are on the equal ground more or less...

Bebi_vegeta

You don't know anything about consoles, no matter how many times I teach you about it. Here, read and learn, it's lesson time!

First off plenty of PS3 games are in 1080p and 60 FPS, like COD, which is 1080p 60 FPS on both PS3 and 360. Skyrim is 1080p on consoles as well. So are plenty of other games.

Now that you know this, let's talk about BF. See there are actually some PS3 games like Resistance that have 64 players in it. MAG (which sucks) is like 300 people in it, BF is not 64 on consoles because the devs chose not to. That is the only reason why.

And finally, the PS3 and 360 are not equals. PS3 is far more powerful, this is why there are no games on 360 with amazing graphics. You can learn about console power here Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I also have an in-dept comparison I have done myself that I can show you. We are all uneducated about something at one point, but we can all learn. I will teach you, do not listen to your other fanboys like SeanyMcMuffins or whatever his name is (the overzealous PC fanboy).

COD 1080p native resolution on PS3 ???

Yep it's true, it's 1080p on 360 too. The back of the box says 1080p and my TV tells me what resolution a game is when I put it in. COD is 1080p.

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#82 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You don't know anything about consoles, no matter how many times I teach you about it. Here, read and learn, it's lesson time!

First off plenty of PS3 games are in 1080p and 60 FPS, like COD, which is 1080p 60 FPS on both PS3 and 360. Skyrim is 1080p on consoles as well. So are plenty of other games.

Now that you know this, let's talk about BF. See there are actually some PS3 games like Resistance that have 64 players in it. MAG (which sucks) is like 300 people in it, BF is not 64 on consoles because the devs chose not to. That is the only reason why.

And finally, the PS3 and 360 are not equals. PS3 is far more powerful, this is why there are no games on 360 with amazing graphics. You can learn about console power here Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I also have an in-dept comparison I have done myself that I can show you. We are all uneducated about something at one point, but we can all learn. I will teach you, do not listen to your other fanboys like SeanyMcMuffins or whatever his name is (the overzealous PC fanboy).

ShadowMoses900

COD 1080p native resolution on PS3 ???

Yep it's true, it's 1080p on 360 too. The back of the box says 1080p and my TV tells me what resolution a game is when I put it in. COD is 1080p.

I'm talking about native resolution... not stretch to fit your HDTV screen. You need to inform yourself.

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#83 Rocker6
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There you go, all that is proof.

ShadowMoses900

All you managed to prove is the fact how PS3 exclusives look slightly better than the 360 ones, but there are no "miles" of difference, everything looks similiar, as I said, both consoles are aged hardware at this point, and there are no noticeable differences in hardware power.

You can prove me wrong only by coming up with a damn good explanation why "teh supercomputer" PS3 can't render complex 3D games at native full 1080p + 60 FPS. If you can't do that, you proved yourself how the hardware is on equal ground...

BTW I don't care about that military supercomputer, I can duct tape two of my GPUs together and outperform it :P

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#84 Rocker6
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You guys really can´t stop feeding useless trolls these days eh? lolArach666

Yep, hard to resist when it's so fun :)

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#85 locopatho
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

COD 1080p native resolution on PS3 ???

Bebi_vegeta

Yep it's true, it's 1080p on 360 too. The back of the box says 1080p and my TV tells me what resolution a game is when I put it in. COD is 1080p.

I'm talking about native resolution... not stretch to fit your HDTV screen. You need to inform yourself.

Don't bother, he doesn't understand what resolution is, he thinks anything on a Blu Ray disc is automatically HD...
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#86 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Honestly I would not care.

But Hermits over exaggerate PC graphics all the time and the PS3 version will be the best because MGS is best experienced on a PlayStation system. I do not know about the 360 version, MGS4 was too addvanced for 360 to handle, so there is no way it can handle Ground Zero, it looks even better than UC 3 and TLOU.

jimmyrussle117

And why exactly would it bestexperienced on a playstation system? Also the same could be said about the PS3 not being able to handle skyrim :lol:

Well MGS is home on the PlayStation, the games are full of references to Sony and the PlayStation brand. And the controls are made for PS3 controller, the 360 one is not that good for it because it doesn't have things like pressure sensitive buttons. But there is nothing wrong with MGS going to 360, more people get to play it.

And PS3 can handle Skyrim, it was just devs being lazy. They fixed the game with an update and it runs just like the 360 version now.

Here watch this: Elders Scroll's Skyrim - Xbox 360, Ps3 & PC comparison

The 360 cannot handle MGS4 which is why MGS4 never came to it. The 360 is too weak.

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#87 lundy86_4
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Yep it's true, it's 1080p on 360 too. The back of the box says 1080p and my TV tells me what resolution a game is when I put it in. COD is 1080p.

ShadowMoses900

That's upscaled resolutions, bro. For a list of rendering resolutions, see here.

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#88 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yep it's true, it's 1080p on 360 too. The back of the box says 1080p and my TV tells me what resolution a game is when I put it in. COD is 1080p.

locopatho

I'm talking about native resolution... not stretch to fit your HDTV screen. You need to inform yourself.

Don't bother, he doesn't understand what resolution is, he thinks anything on a Blu Ray disc is automatically HD...

Man that is sad...

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You guys really can´t stop feeding useless trolls these days eh? lolArach666

trolls gotta eat too...

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Why does everybody on this forum have such a hard on for bashing cows? On topic IF that happens it'll most likely be small differences. Also I wonder how many lems will hype this game but in the same breath bash mgs4.
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#91 soapman72
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Honestly I would not care.

But Hermits over exaggerate PC graphics all the time and the PS3 version will be the best because MGS is best experienced on a PlayStation system. I do not know about the 360 version, MGS4 was too addvanced for 360 to handle, so there is no way it can handle Ground Zero, it looks even better than UC 3 and TLOU.

SNIPER4321

How many times u will repeat same thing in every thread??

Ask yourself the same question

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#92 Obviously_Right
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I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

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I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

Obviously_Right
Gotta love that unjustified sense of entitlement you guys have! :lol:
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I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

Obviously_Right

As far as I'm concerned, a pirate+bro gamer in one would be a more pleasant thing than a deluded and entitled cow ;)

Sorry, gaming industry is bussiness, Sony and Kojima don't care about you, only for your money. If you stop being a source of revenue, they'll abandon you in a second, and switch to someone else who seems more promising from a bussiness perspective...

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#95 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

The_Game21x

Gotta love that unjustified sense of entitlement you guys have! :lol:

ha.

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#96 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

Rocker6

As far as I'm concerned, a pirate+bro gamer in one would be a more pleasant thing than a deluded and entitled cow ;)

Sorry, gaming industry is bussiness, Sony doesn't care about you, only for your money. If you stop being a source of revenue, they'll abandon you in a second, and switch to someone else who seems more promising from a bussiness perspective...

You're evidently not too bright, that was the heart of my point in my previous post.

The existing fanbase is present on the PS3 at the moment, the people who will go out of their way to buy this game, Konami know this, so they will seek to fulfil the needs and wants of this group of players FIRST, prioritising them, whilst trying to expand to a wider audience at the same time secondarily.

They also run the risk of pissing off PS3 gamers and damaging their sales, of course.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

"@kazamatsuri said, "Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes demo was truly amazing, running on a PC at current-gen specs. Wow."

Source

No worries, it's IGN, you like them, they're credible! :)

There's this too:

"Attendees were shown a 20 minute Ground Zeroes gameplay demo running on a high-spec PC that remained secret, until now."

parkurtommo

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...

Same, I was hoping for some effort or his old self where he actually tried. Rather than ranting utter crap like a PS3 LoosingENDS. It's not fun now

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#98 Gue1
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it's not gonna happen. Kojima and KojiPro likes Sony and the PS3 way too much. They have the most experience with the PS3 too. On top of this I would watch out for the insane compression on the Xbox version due to the cut-scenes. FFXIII anyone?

I would even dare to make a bet that on consoles the PS3 version will be the superior one. :cool:

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#99 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

Obviously_Right

I never said they would shun them, just past experiences have thought us that multiplatform games look worse on the PS3. Even if just by a little.

Also I love how some people are still in denial about it being on 360 at all let alone PC despite the fact that it's confirmed for PS360

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#100 Chutebox
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I'm guessing by playing the game on PS3.