So if MGS:GZ looks best on PC and better on 360 how will cows react?

it's not gonna happen. Kojima and KojiPro likes Sony and the PS3 way too much. They have the most experience with the PS3 too. On top of this I would watch out for the insane compression on the Xbox version due to the cut-scenes. FFXIII anyone?

I would even dare to make a bet that on consoles the PS3 version will be the superior one. :cool:

Gue1

So you would claim ownage over the clarity of pre-rendered cutscenes and not the gameplay itself? now that's pretty low

You guys really can´t stop feeding useless trolls these days eh? lolArach666

but at least this is a good troll thread not like the ones charizard and free_sheep(milk) make. They just keep beating a dead horse. :)

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

Obviously_Right

As far as I'm concerned, a pirate+bro gamer in one would be a more pleasant thing than a deluded and entitled cow ;)

Sorry, gaming industry is bussiness, Sony doesn't care about you, only for your money. If you stop being a source of revenue, they'll abandon you in a second, and switch to someone else who seems more promising from a bussiness perspective...

You're evidently not too bright, that was the heart of my point in my previous post.

The existing fanbase is present on the PS3 at the moment, the people who will go out of their way to buy this game, Konami know this, so they will seek to fulfil the needs and wants of this group of players FIRST, prioritising them, whilst trying to expand to a wider audience at the same time secondarily.

They also run the risk of pissing off PS3 gamers and damaging their sales, of course.

What previous post? The one where you insult PC and 360 gamers just because a game isn't exclusive anymore? :?

Sorry, I haven't seen any point in that, just insults and feeling of entitlement...

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

seanmcloughlin

I never said they would shun them, just past experiences have thought us that multiplatform games look worse on the PS3. Even if just by a little.

Also I love how some people are still in denial about it being on 360 at all let alone PC despite the fact that it's confirmed for PS360

Nobody is denying GZ will be on the 360 and you know it.

All I see are jelly Hermits butthurt that the closest that they will ever get to this game is watching gameplay on Youtube.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

As far as I'm concerned, a pirate+bro gamer in one would be a more pleasant thing than a deluded and entitled cow ;)

Sorry, gaming industry is bussiness, Sony doesn't care about you, only for your money. If you stop being a source of revenue, they'll abandon you in a second, and switch to someone else who seems more promising from a bussiness perspective...

Rocker6

You're evidently not too bright, that was the heart of my point in my previous post.

The existing fanbase is present on the PS3 at the moment, the people who will go out of their way to buy this game, Konami know this, so they will seek to fulfil the needs and wants of this group of players FIRST, prioritising them, whilst trying to expand to a wider audience at the same time secondarily.

They also run the risk of pissing off PS3 gamers and damaging their sales, of course.

What previous post? The one where you insult PC and 360 gamers just because a game isn't exclusive anymore? :?

Sorry, I haven't seen any point in that, just insults and feeling of entitlement...

Take a deep breath, relax and then read it again in relation to the TC's op.

Unless you're too upset to do so of course.

The funny thing is I was actually agreeing with you.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

You're evidently not too bright, that was the heart of my point in my previous post.

The existing fanbase is present on the PS3 at the moment, the people who will go out of their way to buy this game, Konami know this, so they will seek to fulfil the needs and wants of this group of players FIRST, prioritising them, whilst trying to expand to a wider audience at the same time secondarily.

They also run the risk of pissing off PS3 gamers and damaging their sales, of course.

Obviously_Right

What previous post? The one where you insult PC and 360 gamers just because a game isn't exclusive anymore? :?

Sorry, I haven't seen any point in that, just insults and feeling of entitlement...

Take a deep breath, relax and then read it again in relation to the TC's op.

Unless you're too upset to do so of course.

The funny thing is I was actually agreeing with you.

Upset about what exactly? :?

All I see in the mentioned post are insults, you acting like PC and 360 gamers don't deserve to play the game, like it's reserved especially for the PS3 owners. I'm afraid such elitist attitude negates any point you were trying to make...

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Something something graphics don't matter unless it's exclusive, PC fans are graphics wh*res, lol the 360 has no games, lol Kinect, Uncharted 3 looks better anyway, and so on and so forth.

Rocker6

Isn't it amusing how little GZ hype comes from the cows? :)

Feels like they're damage controlling in silence, an MGS game that looks miles better than MGS 4 is announced for the 360, so that visual difference plus the fact it's multiplat makes it worthless for the cows :lol:

It just goes to show that all their bullsh*t about MGS4 not being possible on the 360 was just that, bullsh*t. Anybody with a brain knew it was nonsense anyway. MGS4 is far from being the best looking game on either console.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

I very much doubt that TC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-15-platinum-metal-gear-rising-lead-platform-is-ps3

Especially when Rising's lead platform is PS3, why would they shun their main fanbase for the bro gamers on the 360, let alone the pirates on the PC.

Obviously_Right

I never said they would shun them, just past experiences have thought us that multiplatform games look worse on the PS3. Even if just by a little.

Also I love how some people are still in denial about it being on 360 at all let alone PC despite the fact that it's confirmed for PS360

Nobody is denying GZ will be on the 360 and you know it.

All I see are jelly Hermits butthurt that the closest that they will ever get to this game is watching gameplay on Youtube.

Your posts don't make sense sometimes and you say things out of nowhere

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...todd2r_Partdeux

Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.

It also makes me wonder if NORAD goes offline whenever PSN goes down.

Hahaha, was just thinking about it, that'd be one hell of a meltdown, I don't think this broken site would survive the damage control and the butthurt! :twisted:

Also, I'm fairly suprised how silent cows are, 360 version is announced, yet no butthurt threads or petitions have been created, very few cows are damage controlling, I only caught Shadowmoses...

Oh, and one thing:

Please, don't mention the PC version, there is no official confirmation, and chances for it are small, you guys are getting my hopes up, only to leave me dissapointed again and again. If it continues, I'll hunt you all down! :evil:

Rocker6

Why would cows be surprised in the 1st place? After Rising it would be obvious the series was going multiplat... I know I wasnt surprised...

Also TC thats a big IF. Life isnt made of IFs but we'll see what will happens when MGS:GZ releases

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Stop calling me a troll, I am not a troll. Everything I said was true.

Here read:

US Air Force PS3 supercomputer

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"

You guys are the trolls because no matter how many times I try to teach you about stuff you just damage control it and make fun of me.

slimjimbadboy

It also makes me wonder if NORAD goes offline whenever PSN goes down.

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But remember, the PS3 is a super computer, it is like 30 PC's in one. So it can easily handle this game, KZ3 rivals vanilla PC Crysis 2, TLOU rivals PC games already, so PS3 version of MGS GZ will be the same as the trailer. Even better since MGS is best on PS3 because PlayStation is the home of MGS.

The real question is how will the 360 version hold up? It couldn't handle MGS4 because it was too advanced for the system, so how will it handle this game? Either way I am excited, best game of the gen probably.

seanmcloughlin

Same, I was hoping for some effort or his old self where he actually tried. Rather than ranting utter crap like a PS3 LoosingENDS. It's not fun now

Join me...I've been reporting all his posts as "forum invasion" :P

hasnt been confirmed for pc Also... it'll be better on the 360 just as ff13 was better on it :cool:campzor

Yeah, I'm sure it'll be one of the rare multiplats that's better on the PS3 than the 360.

That sounds about right.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Honestly I would not care.

But Hermits over exaggerate PC graphics all the time and the PS3 version will be the best because MGS is best experienced on a PlayStation system. I do not know about the 360 version, MGS4 was too addvanced for 360 to handle, so there is no way it can handle Ground Zero, it looks even better than UC 3 and TLOU.

seanmcloughlin

Again the demo shown was so advanced that it was displayed using a PC and not a PS3. If the PS3 was so powerful then why wasn't it shown on that instead?

I find it strange that this wasn't confirmed for PC yet shown ON a PC emulating current gen visuals. Either it's coming to PC or it's one of the biggest bullshotted trailers we've seen and only shown that way to grab attention

Kojima said it was running on a PC with "PS3 specs", which could very easily mean a PS3 devkit, and that wouldn't be too surprising. A lot of console games are shown in early demos using a devkit, because it's just simpler than finalizing a "work in progress" version and putting it on a disc, to show on the actual console. And I don't think those graphics are really THAT unbelievable on the current gen hardware. Kojima and company have a knack for pulling previously unheard of power out of a console. He also specifically stated the PS3 and 360 versions of the games will look "comparable" to what was shown on that demo. I'd assume, if nothing else, it'll probably run at a bit lower resolution, as they probably spiked the resolution for that demo, just because something rendered at 720-1080p(ish) stretched onto that big demo screen wouldn't look that crisp.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Honestly I would not care.

But Hermits over exaggerate PC graphics all the time and the PS3 version will be the best because MGS is best experienced on a PlayStation system. I do not know about the 360 version, MGS4 was too addvanced for 360 to handle, so there is no way it can handle Ground Zero, it looks even better than UC 3 and TLOU.

the_bi99man

Again the demo shown was so advanced that it was displayed using a PC and not a PS3. If the PS3 was so powerful then why wasn't it shown on that instead?

I find it strange that this wasn't confirmed for PC yet shown ON a PC emulating current gen visuals. Either it's coming to PC or it's one of the biggest bullshotted trailers we've seen and only shown that way to grab attention

Kojima said it was running on a PC with "PS3 specs", which could very easily mean a PS3 devkit, and that wouldn't be too surprising. A lot of console games are shown in early demos using a devkit, because it's just simpler than finalizing a "work in progress" version and putting it on a disc, to show on the actual console. And I don't think those graphics are really THAT unbelievable on the current gen hardware. Kojima and company have a knack for pulling previously unheard of power out of a console. He also specifically stated the PS3 and 360 versions of the games will look "comparable" to what was shown on that demo. I'd assume, if nothing else, it'll probably run at a bit lower resolution, as they probably spiked the resolution for that demo, just because something rendered at 720-1080p(ish) stretched onto that big demo screen wouldn't look that crisp.

Something comparable could just mean all the assets will be there but like you said resolution will be brought down and so will framerate

MGS4 was so advanced that not other console was able to handle : sub HD resolution,not even 720p no antialiasing crappy framerate low re textures. :lol:Tessellation

Honestly, the only thing about MGS4 that the 360 couldn't technically handle (without using several discs) is all the feature-length cutscenes, with uncompressed audio. Uncompressed audio is the biggest thing taking up that Blu-Ray space, not only in PS3 games, but in High-Def bluray movies, as well. Three or even four hours of full 1080p video, with standard, compressed audio takes up far less than 9 gigs (ie: not too much to fit on a regular DVD). Uncompressed audio gets real big, real fast, though. If there was ever to be a port of MGS4 to the 360, they'd just do standard compression on the audio, fit the game on one DVD, and no one would be able to tell the difference without good headphones, or a badass home theater surround sound system.

Also, I've been wondering this for a while now; who is that nasty fat kid in your sig? Is it some pic you just found somewhere, or is that someone you know?

It will look best on PS4

It will look best on PS4

AM-Gamer

Possibly, if they decide to do a cross-generation release. As I said in your thead, the PS3 and 360 logos are in your face and unmistakable in the end of the trailer/demo. I don't know where you got the idea that it's "not confirmed for current gen". That's all it's confirmed for.

Considering that the footage was done with PC hardware, the FOX engine is multiplat, and the fact that Kojima himself saidit will be coming to PC, it's safe to assume that MGS: GZ is IN FACT, coming to PC. To me, it sounds like a bunch of butthurt console peasants are upset their next MGS game will be overshadowed by the superior PC version.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/kojima-hiring-for-next-metal-gear-solid-6350832

"the next Metal Gear Solid is "targeted for high-end consoles and PC" and will use the FOX Engine."

Considering that the footage was done with PC hardware, the FOX engine is multiplat, and the fact that Kojima himself saidit will be coming to PC, it's safe to assume that MGS: GZ is IN FACT, coming to PC. To me, it sounds like a bunch of butthurt console peasants are upset their next MGS game will be overshadowed by the superior PC version.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/kojima-hiring-for-next-metal-gear-solid-6350832

"the next Metal Gear Solid is "targeted for high-end consoles and PC" and will use the FOX Engine."

Rayne718

Hm. I forgot about that announcement. I guess a PC release is more likely than I thought. Although, I suppose it's at least slightly possible that that job posting was referring to MGS5, rather than Ground Zeroes.

Wasnt FF13 suppsoed to look better on 360 to because it was multiplat , I mean what massive ownage it was going to be when one of the best looking multipalts that was once a long time Ps exclusive franchise looks better on the 360....... Oh wait ... instead the 360 version looked like garbage and the PS3 version came out on top by a wide margin. As for the PC version im sure it will be as awesome as the new Dark souls....... oh wait.

Wasnt FF13 suppsoed to look better on 360 to because it was multiplat , I mean what massive ownage it was going to be when one of the best looking multipalts that was once a long time Ps exclusive franchise looks better on the 360....... Oh wait ... instead the 360 version looked like garbage and the PS3 version came out on top by a wide margin. As for the PC version im sure it will be as awesome as the new Dark souls....... oh wait.

AM-Gamer

Cows always fall back on the FFXIII arguement and just downplay the numerous other games that look worse and perform worse on PS3. Bayonetta, Skyrim, RDR, Crysis 2 etc. Sure they may not be a whole lot better but they're still better and why that is interesting is cows always said 360 can't handle MGS4, yet here is GZ and it not only looks far greater than MGS4 but it's coming to the 360 too. Totally nullifying their arguements over the last few years

Oh and as for dark souls, can the console version run at 1080p and run at a constant 30 fps? nope didn't think so. Dark souls may be a shoddy port but it's still better than the console version funnily

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Wasnt FF13 suppsoed to look better on 360 to because it was multiplat , I mean what massive ownage it was going to be when one of the best looking multipalts that was once a long time Ps exclusive franchise looks better on the 360....... Oh wait ... instead the 360 version looked like garbage and the PS3 version came out on top by a wide margin. As for the PC version im sure it will be as awesome as the new Dark souls....... oh wait.

seanmcloughlin

Cows always fall back on the FFXIII arguement and just downplay the numerous other games that look worse and perform worse on PS3. Bayonetta, Skyrim, RDR, Crysis 2 etc. Sure they may not be a whole lot better but they're still better and why that is interesting is cows always said 360 can't handle MGS4, yet here is GZ and it not only looks far greater than MGS4 but it's coming to the 360 too. Totally nullifying their arguements over the last few years

Oh and as for dark souls, can the console version run at 1080p and run at a constant 30 fps? nope didn't think so. Dark souls may be a shoddy port but it's still better than the console version funnily

yeah, Dark Souls had the misfortune of being terribly ported right off the bat, but with the simple resolution and DOF fixes (along with the additional "Prepare to Die Edition" content), it's easily the best version available. So long as you don't mind playing with a controller. And I don't think many do.

Wasnt FF13 suppsoed to look better on 360 to because it was multiplat , I mean what massive ownage it was going to be when one of the best looking multipalts that was once a long time Ps exclusive franchise looks better on the 360....... Oh wait ... instead the 360 version looked like garbage and the PS3 version came out on top by a wide margin. As for the PC version im sure it will be as awesome as the new Dark souls....... oh wait.

AM-Gamer

Because it's logical to expect that this will be one of the handful of multiplats that looks better on the PS3 when the vast majority have favored the 360?

Good luck with that.

It will look best on Wii or Wii:U.... :|
:lol:

Am just glad 360 and PS3 owners can both play this masterpiece. The differences will be minuscule.
Hopefully Kojima will listen to fans and make a PC version also.
Depends how badly the people want it.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Wasnt FF13 suppsoed to look better on 360 to because it was multiplat , I mean what massive ownage it was going to be when one of the best looking multipalts that was once a long time Ps exclusive franchise looks better on the 360....... Oh wait ... instead the 360 version looked like garbage and the PS3 version came out on top by a wide margin. As for the PC version im sure it will be as awesome as the new Dark souls....... oh wait.

the_bi99man

Cows always fall back on the FFXIII arguement and just downplay the numerous other games that look worse and perform worse on PS3. Bayonetta, Skyrim, RDR, Crysis 2 etc. Sure they may not be a whole lot better but they're still better and why that is interesting is cows always said 360 can't handle MGS4, yet here is GZ and it not only looks far greater than MGS4 but it's coming to the 360 too. Totally nullifying their arguements over the last few years

Oh and as for dark souls, can the console version run at 1080p and run at a constant 30 fps? nope didn't think so. Dark souls may be a shoddy port but it's still better than the console version funnily

yeah, Dark Souls had the misfortune of being terribly ported right off the bat, but with the simple resolution and DOF fixes (along with the additional "Prepare to Die Edition" content), it's easily the best version available. So long as you don't mind playing with a controller. And I don't think many do.

Cows still have demon's souls you know. Sony owns the IP and I doubt it'll ever get released to any other platform.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]I see you've turned in to a regular SW troll, I remember when you were almost credible... almost...wis3boi

Same, I was hoping for some effort or his old self where he actually tried. Rather than ranting utter crap like a PS3 LoosingENDS. It's not fun now

Join me...I've been reporting all his posts as "forum invasion" :P

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Cows always fall back on the FFXIII arguement and just downplay the numerous other games that look worse and perform worse on PS3. Bayonetta, Skyrim, RDR, Crysis 2 etc. Sure they may not be a whole lot better but they're still better and why that is interesting is cows always said 360 can't handle MGS4, yet here is GZ and it not only looks far greater than MGS4 but it's coming to the 360 too. Totally nullifying their arguements over the last few years

Oh and as for dark souls, can the console version run at 1080p and run at a constant 30 fps? nope didn't think so. Dark souls may be a shoddy port but it's still better than the console version funnily

Ironbash

yeah, Dark Souls had the misfortune of being terribly ported right off the bat, but with the simple resolution and DOF fixes (along with the additional "Prepare to Die Edition" content), it's easily the best version available. So long as you don't mind playing with a controller. And I don't think many do.

Cows still have demon's souls you know. Sony owns the IP and I doubt it'll ever get released to any other platform.

And? From what I've seen anyway Dark Souls is more my style. I don't think I'd like the hub system of demon's souls and much prefer the more open world feel. Also Dark Souls has much cooler looking bosses

Wasnt FF13 suppsoed to look better on 360 to because it was multiplat , I mean what massive ownage it was going to be when one of the best looking multipalts that was once a long time Ps exclusive franchise looks better on the 360....... Oh wait ... instead the 360 version looked like garbage and the PS3 version came out on top by a wide margin. As for the PC version im sure it will be as awesome as the new Dark souls....... oh wait.

AM-Gamer

They'll react like idiots, as all fanboys are idiots.clone01

I think there's good chance of it coming to PC, we'll certainly see a lot more of the marketing build playing on a PC and a sh1t load of bullshots (PC screenshots), even if it doesn't get a full release.

Want to know why?

Because the consoles are out dated tech and the devs (all devs) want to show off what they are capable of doing, if given the power to do it and ,quite frankly, they are probably fed up with having to scale back the games after putting so much effort in to them on their powerful development PC's (you know the ones all games are written on before being cut down for the consoles).

It's the same reason why we get tech demos for new engines show cased on top of the range hardware.

and here's a real super computer

http://www.top500.org/lists/2012/06/press-release

15 disks for the 360 confirmed

Honestly I would not care.

But Hermits over exaggerate PC graphics all the time and the PS3 version will be the best because MGS is best experienced on a PlayStation system. I do not know about the 360 version, MGS4 was too addvanced for 360 to handle, so there is no way it can handle Ground Zero, it looks even better than UC 3 and TLOU.

ShadowMoses900

Wow, look at all of these damage control by Cows! Cows are such a bunch of delusional/scared fanboys comfirmed. As a reward for your hard work on DC, I present this special gift for all you Cows to enjoy...:lol: