So if NGS gets a AAA score, will it count as a AAA exclusive for the PS3?

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#1 eastside49er
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I would say no, mainly because after playing the demo, it sure seems to be nothing more than a glossed up port, with of course a few more things like an extra playable character and a few more levels in the final version, but nothing that would signify a completely new or different game from NGB or NG for the XBOX.

Any way, what do you guys think? Also do you think TN is going to put NGS on the 360 or are they just going to work on NG2 and that will be good enough?

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#2 -The-G-Man-
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Yes.  Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.
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Yes NGS, has 20% more gameplay than NGB (forgot where i read that). so it is not just the same game and it is not on wii or 360
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I am not really sure to tell you the truth. Hey , I have a great idea :idea: ..... lets make it count as half of an exclusive !

 

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#6 Snugenz
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Its a toughie alright, because on one hand it has exclusive content, on the other hand, you can play Black on the Xbox/360 that uses the same engine and has a good 80%+ of the content that Sigma has.

Maybe it could be classed as some kind've exclusive expansion pack ? 

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#7 AfterShafter
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If it does, so should 360's Oblivion... Same game + some exclusive content that the other system doesn't have.  Otherwise, they're both glorified ports.
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Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.-The-G-Man-

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA 

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#9 -The-G-Man-
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I am not really sure to tell you the truth. Hey , I have a great idea :idea: ..... lets make it count as half of an exclusive !

 

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*brain asplodes*

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#10 CaseyWegner
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genma onimusha, REmake, ng:black, etc. were never considered exclusives. why start now?
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.onewiththegame

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA 

So Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes is a port?  It's a REMAKE, just like Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

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#12 onewiththegame
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Yes NGS, has 20% more gameplay than NGB (forgot where i read that). so it is not just the same game and it is not on wii or 360downPlayDemon

MGS2:sub for the xbox had like 100+ vmissions added was it a new game or a port?

cows 

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#13 whodeysay85
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who cares? the game is gonna be great and will probably score high. I'll be enjoying playing it while you guys can argue about whether or not it deserves to be classified as an "exclusive" AAA
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#14 omgimba
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Yes NGS, has 20% more gameplay than NGB (forgot where i read that). so it is not just the same game and it is not on wii or 360downPlayDemon

OMG! MGS 2 is a ps2 exclusive! Omg! Re4 is both a ps2 exclusive and a gamecube exclusive!! Omg Super mario 64 DS is a ds exclusive (all people stating this is a mere n64 port most be retards, all reviewers are retards!!!! Darn thats logics now!...) !!!!  And Wow Oblivion is a ps3 exclusive!! (Well.. the other versions doesn't include the expansion..) (Sould calibur 2 was exclusive to all 3 consoles last gen? Well they weren't the same... since they had different chars..)

Um.. That doesn't make any sence, your logics fails..

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#15 Eltroz
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80% is a port so ya it is not a exclusive.
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#16 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.-The-G-Man-

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA

So Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes is a port? It's a REMAKE, just like Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

so it Metal Gear Sold: the Twin Snakes had got AAA

it was have been a EAAA for the cube?? NO

if I have played 90% of the game before its a port 

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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.onewiththegame

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA 

I kind of laugh at people who claim it isn't a port. Obviously these people never played NGB/NG for the XBOX, nor have they played the NGS demo for the PS3. All 3 are pretty much the same engine, same gameplay, etc. NGB of course has a few more things than NG and NGS will have a few more things than NGB. It is still a port and any cow who says otherwise is in denial.

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#18 D0013ER
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genma onimusha, REmake, ng:black, etc. were never considered exclusives. why start now?CaseyWegner

Desperation? 

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#19 mikasa
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No way! it's a port.  A very good port, but a port none-the-less.  Heck cows don't even count GRAW as exclusive even though it's completely different then the PC version (more different than NGS is vs. NGB).  So no way does NGS count as exclusive.

But I'm sure it's a great game and cows should be happy to play it.  They shouldn't be concerned that lemmings played it last gen on the xbox.

 

Edit: Had to add an ! to No Way so it would read correctly.

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#20 The_Ish
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genma onimusha, REmake, ng:black, etc. were never considered exclusives. why start now?CaseyWegner

Because fanboys need validation Casey, they need to know they are worth something.

 

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#21 eastside49er
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If it does, so should 360's Oblivion... Same game + some exclusive content that the other system doesn't have.  Otherwise, they're both glorified ports.AfterShafter

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#22 onewiththegame
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If it does, so should 360's Oblivion... Same game + some exclusive content that the other system doesn't have. Otherwise, they're both glorified ports.AfterShafter

True Story 

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#23 themyth01
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 Definately NOT. If RE4 gets AAA on Wii, it won't count as exclusive either. Should enhanced graphics make it a new game? of course not. Same game.
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#24 onewiththegame
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so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive 

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#25 D0013ER
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They shouldn't be concerned that lemmings played it last gen on the xbox.

mikasa

But they will be.  They're infinitely more worried about having bragging rights on forums than having good games to play. 

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#26 deangallop
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Nope, It's the same game as black but with exlusive content.

 

Edit: and prettier gfx.

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#27 _DeatH-MetaL_
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well i believe it should count but others would say no so i dunno.
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#28 eastside49er
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so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive 

onewiththegame

I agree.

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#29 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.eastside49er

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA 

I kind of laugh at people who claim it isn't a port. Obviously these people never played NGB/NG for the XBOX, nor have they played the NGS demo for the PS3. All 3 are pretty much the same engine, same gameplay, etc. NGB of course has a few more things than NG and NGS will have a few more things than NGB. It is still a port and any cow who says otherwise is in denial.

I consider it a remake.  And because I do, that makes me a cow?  Nice logic.

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#30 kingsfan_0333
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Abso-fricken-lutley not...but nice try though.  If we are going to look at it in terms of having more gameplay, than games like GRAW on the 360 should be considered exclusive AAA since there was absolutly no comparison on any other console.  But they weren't, so all those ps3 fanboys that cried that GRAW wasn't an exclusive have to suffer the consequences of their actions.

 

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#31 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive

eastside49er

I agree.

I also agree, but you just know this debate will reach boiling point if it does get AAA, and the front page will be full of "NG:S IS exclusive because ..." topics :lol: 

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#32 mikasa
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive 

eastside49er

I agree.

I agree as well.

/thread.

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so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive 

onewiththegame

I agree

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#34 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.onewiththegame

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA

So Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes is a port? It's a REMAKE, just like Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

so it Metal Gear Sold: the Twin Snakes had got AAA

it was have been a EAAA for the cube?? NO

if I have played 90% of the game before its a port 

Allow me to revise my statement.  I don't think it should any longer be counted as an exclusive AAA if it does make AAA, but I still stand by what I said: it's not a port, it's a remake.

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#35 mikasa
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive

Snugenz

I agree.

I also agree, but you just know this debate will reach boiling point if it does get AAA, and the front page will be full of "NG:S IS exclusive because ..." topics :lol: 

And if it doesn't get AAA, cows will say meh...it's a port anyway.

That's why they will avoid this thread like the plague.  But to be honest, it should get a AAA (unless they get docked for being a game that happened years ago; however, that doesn't seem to hurt mario).

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#36 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.-The-G-Man-

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA 

I kind of laugh at people who claim it isn't a port. Obviously these people never played NGB/NG for the XBOX, nor have they played the NGS demo for the PS3. All 3 are pretty much the same engine, same gameplay, etc. NGB of course has a few more things than NG and NGS will have a few more things than NGB. It is still a port and any cow who says otherwise is in denial.

I consider it a remake.  And because I do, that makes me a cow?  Nice logic.

It is a port. Already been proven over and over again in this very thread, otherwise every game that is ported/remade with extra content will all of the sudden be exclusive. So I guess RE4 for the PS2 is exclusive? How about RE4 for the Wii? How about Oblivion for the 360? How about GTA IV for the 360?

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#37 CaseyWegner
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i only made an official hype thread for it since i knew it would be a controversial gray area.
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#38 Grodus5
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I think it should, but I doubt it will make AAA.
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#39 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive

Snugenz

I agree.

I also agree, but you just know this debate will reach boiling point if it does get AAA, and the front page will be full of "NG:S IS exclusive because ..." topics :lol: 

:lol:

True which is why I made this now. Might as well sticky it to avoid a billion threads when it does get a AAA score because IMO it will. Still doesn't make it exclusive for obvious reasons.

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#40 TyrantDragon55
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well i believe it should count but others would say no so i dunno._DeatH-MetaL_

As someone else said, if we're going to count this as an exclusive than we might as well add GRAW to the 360's exclusive list since the only similarity between the 360 version and the other versions is the name.

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#41 mikasa
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i only made an official hype thread for it since i knew it would be a controversial gray area.CaseyWegner

So you're the one that is giving credibility to this bunk? 

To me it's pretty clear...it's a port of a last gen game to a next gen system.

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#42 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.-The-G-Man-

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA

I kind of laugh at people who claim it isn't a port. Obviously these people never played NGB/NG for the XBOX, nor have they played the NGS demo for the PS3. All 3 are pretty much the same engine, same gameplay, etc. NGB of course has a few more things than NG and NGS will have a few more things than NGB. It is still a port and any cow who says otherwise is in denial.

I consider it a remake. And because I do, that makes me a cow? Nice logic.

When the same exact gameplay is intact along with more than 80% of the original content, its a port. The only difference is that NG is a glorified port, with extra features and better graphics.

 

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#43 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

so we all agree its a port and if it does get AAA (it should) good for the cows

but its not exclusive

mikasa

I agree.

I also agree, but you just know this debate will reach boiling point if it does get AAA, and the front page will be full of "NG:S IS exclusive because ..." topics :lol:

And if it doesn't get AAA, cows will say meh...it's a port anyway.

That's why they will avoid this thread like the plague. But to be honest, it should get a AAA (unless they get docked for being a game that happened years ago; however, that doesn't seem to hurt mario).

:lol:, yeah so true.

And i agree about the AAA, i really think it can get it, although GS could definately downplay it because its a port, but we'll see.

Either way its gonna be an awesome game regardless of the score it recieves and the cows should be happy enough with that. 

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#44 -The-G-Man-
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It is a port. Already been proven over and over again in this very thread, otherwise every game that is ported/remade with extra content will all of the sudden be exclusive. So I guess RE4 for the PS2 is exclusive? How about RE4 for the Wii? How about Oblivion for the 360? How about GTA IV for the 360? I could go on and on to prove my point, but I doubt you will ever sway so I will just stop.eastside49er

I have revised my stance in that I don't think it should count as exclusive should it indeed make AAA, but I still say it isn't a port.  A port is simply something that was moved over to another system with minimal enhancements.  Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a remade version of the game with more stuff to do.  See the difference?  RE4 on the PS2 or Wii weren't remade, were they?

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#45 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]Yes. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a port of Ninja Gaiden Black or Ninja Gaiden and it is not on any other console, so if it gets AAA it will be a AAA exclusive unless it comes out on another console.-The-G-Man-

it's not a port???? what????

it's the same game I played 3 years ago

yes its a port and no its not a EAAA

I kind of laugh at people who claim it isn't a port. Obviously these people never played NGB/NG for the XBOX, nor have they played the NGS demo for the PS3. All 3 are pretty much the same engine, same gameplay, etc. NGB of course has a few more things than NG and NGS will have a few more things than NGB. It is still a port and any cow who says otherwise is in denial.

I consider it a remake. And because I do, that makes me a cow? Nice logic.

your defending a PS game THAT makes you a cow 

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#46 rockydog1111
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Wait the first GRAW isnt considered exclusive? Wow these forums rules are odd. It was totally different from the other versions. If that isnt exclusive neither is NGS. I can play NGB on my 360, I'll still be buying NGS though. I love Team Ninja.
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#47 LosDaddie
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meh....I played the demo on PS3. Still a great game, but a game I basically played 3yrs ago.

To be honest, I wasn't blown away with the graphics either. They looked like exactly what they are; Upscaled NGB Graphics.

I'll buy NGS when it's around $40. No way am I paying $60 for a game I played 3yrs ago and still have in my game collection.

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#48 Natural_Mystic
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Cows can't catch a break this gen.  Even when a good game is released on their system they can't take credit for it. :(

 

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#49 D0013ER
Member since 2007 • 3765 Posts

Cows can't catch a break this gen. Even when a good game is released on their system they can't take credit for it. :(

 

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By their own rules, no they can't. 

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#50 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]It is a port. Already been proven over and over again in this very thread, otherwise every game that is ported/remade with extra content will all of the sudden be exclusive. So I guess RE4 for the PS2 is exclusive? How about RE4 for the Wii? How about Oblivion for the 360? How about GTA IV for the 360? I could go on and on to prove my point, but I doubt you will ever sway so I will just stop.-The-G-Man-

I have revised my stance in that I don't think it should count as exclusive should it indeed make AAA, but I still say it isn't a port. A port is simply something that was moved over to another system with minimal enhancements. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a remade version of the game with more stuff to do. See the difference? RE4 on the PS2 or Wii weren't remade, were they?

Remember REmake, that had an entirely new engine new story arcs etc., that was a remake, NG:S is definately more of a port than a remake. IMOÂ