So if NGS gets a AAA score, will it count as a AAA exclusive for the PS3?

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]It's not a port it's a remake like the developers said it is.. there are things that are not in the XBOX version(the next gen graphics being one of them and the extra content) therefore, the remake is considered a exclusive to PS3. And what makes you lemmings think every PS3 owner is a former XBOX owner... I'mm willing to bet at the moment PS3 users are former PS2 owners.. and they didn't get ninja gaiden on the PS2 did they, so therefore it's a NEW game to them.TheBigDrat

but I can play 80% of it on my Xbox 360 via NG:Black. therefore its not exclusive

But 80% of the xbox version has been remade for the PS3, not ported... The story and the level design are the same obviosly everything else is different. And this is NEXT GEN, why would you play a LAST GEN version over a NEXT GEN one... isnt this gen all about graphics? Or don't you lemmings care for graphics anymore?

[QUOTE="TheBigDrat"]

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]It's not a port it's a remake like the developers said it is.. there are things that are not in the XBOX version(the next gen graphics being one of them and the extra content) therefore, the remake is considered a exclusive to PS3. And what makes you lemmings think every PS3 owner is a former XBOX owner... I'mm willing to bet at the moment PS3 users are former PS2 owners.. and they didn't get ninja gaiden on the PS2 did they, so therefore it's a NEW game to them.Dahaka-UK

but I can play 80% of it on my Xbox 360 via NG:Black. therefore its not exclusive

But 80% of the xbox version has been remade for the PS3, not ported... The story and the level design are the same obviosly everything else is different. And this is NEXT GEN, why would you play a LAST GEN version over a NEXT GEN one... isnt this gen all about graphics? Or don't you lemmings care for graphics anymore?

Just because it's polished doesn't mean it's remade.  The game is a port.  Get over it.

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

People, NGS is NOT A PORT. it is a completely remade game, from the ground up. No porting involved.

Regardless of it's score, it's an exclusive. I don't care if you've played the same missions before, it's exclusive.

jg4xchamp

Port and remake are defiantly not the same thing. If Square Enix remade FFVII with all the same characters, environments items and dialoge, would you consider it a port?

Port= Taking a game and chaning it so it will play on another system, basically.

Remake= Creating an entire game, but with the key points of the game being the same as its original, basically.

NGS is a REMAKE. No reason why it shouldn't be considered an exclusive. 

resistance scores an 8.6 at gamespot. let's use gamerankings instead!!

ninja gaiden sigma...exclusive!!

what long standing system wars game rules are you guys going to try to change next?

CaseyWegner

if the drought of non-exclusive AAA titles keeps missing the PS3, they'll start to say they can play the AAA titles of the PS2 on the PS3 and that they should count as well..  I hope I didn't give them any ideas.

genma onimusha, REmake, ng:black, etc. were never considered exclusives. why start now?CaseyWegner

Why would Ninja Gaiden Black not counted as an exclusive when it came out? 

if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though. CaseyWegner

If being rebuilt completely doesn't alone not constitute being exclusive, what else does it need? Content? I feel NGS has enough extra content to be considered an exclusive. 

People, NGS is NOT A PORT. it is a completely remade game, from the ground up. No porting involved.

Regardless of it's score, it's an exclusive. I don't care if you've played the same missions before, it's exclusive. 

Not-A-Stalker

By your logic Unreal Tourny 3 will be a PS3 exclusive as well since it has an engine built from the ground up for the PS3.  Even though the game will essentially be the same as the 360 version (except for slightly slower framerates and slightly lower graphical prettiness).

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="TheBigDrat"]

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]It's not a port it's a remake like the developers said it is.. there are things that are not in the XBOX version(the next gen graphics being one of them and the extra content) therefore, the remake is considered a exclusive to PS3. And what makes you lemmings think every PS3 owner is a former XBOX owner... I'mm willing to bet at the moment PS3 users are former PS2 owners.. and they didn't get ninja gaiden on the PS2 did they, so therefore it's a NEW game to them.tempest91

but I can play 80% of it on my Xbox 360 via NG:Black. therefore its not exclusive

But 80% of the xbox version has been remade for the PS3, not ported... The story and the level design are the same obviosly everything else is different. And this is NEXT GEN, why would you play a LAST GEN version over a NEXT GEN one... isnt this gen all about graphics? Or don't you lemmings care for graphics anymore?

Just because it's polished doesn't mean it's remade. The game is a port. Get over it.

Not according to the developer interview that was posted on this very site... It's a remake... sorry... There fact > your opinion... I think you should get over the fact your never going to play the improved fun(er) version.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though. Not-A-Stalker

If being rebuilt completely doesn't alone not constitute being exclusive, what else does it need? Content? I feel NGS has enough extra content to be considered an exclusive. 

Great, so Guitar Hero 2 is 360 exclusive too then.  Yeah, right.

By this thinking Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance would be an exclusive xbox AA title as well.

Nice try Sony fans to land an exclusive by bending rules.

tempest91

Except that game was also on PC and Ps2. 

To be exclusive, the game needs to be an ENTIRELY NEW GAME. If it was remade and you play as a Motorcycle called Paul who takes on America using nothing but a plate of bacon as a weapon, it'd be exclusive, because it's something you CANT DO ON OTHER CONSOLES.

As it is, NG:S, is a non-exclusive remake, with some exclusive content. It's not an exclusive. 

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

People, NGS is NOT A PORT. it is a completely remade game, from the ground up. No porting involved.

Regardless of it's score, it's an exclusive. I don't care if you've played the same missions before, it's exclusive.

mikasa

By your logic Unreal Tourny 3 will be a PS3 exclusive as well since it has an engine built from the ground up for the PS3. Even though the game will essentially be the same as the 360 version (except for slightly slower framerates and slightly lower graphical prettiness).

No. Thats not my logic at all. :| What engines home is means nothing... And I'm pretty sure Unreal Engine3 is built for the PC. 

You silly cows, you can't just change the system wars rules like some above posters mentioned if NG:Sigma is exclusive then GRAW and Guitar Hero 2 are also Xbox360 exclusives, from what i have seen/read its basicly the same game with some new better graphics and some rachel action. Im not saying its a bad game or anything on the contrary its a great game but people that have an xbox or a xbox360 have probably alredy played it and its the same experience like in NG:Sigma.RevenMan

with all the additions its obviously a different experience... why would people buy it if its the same experience? this game will sell like hot cakes

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though. mikasa

If being rebuilt completely doesn't alone not constitute being exclusive, what else does it need? Content? I feel NGS has enough extra content to be considered an exclusive.

Great, so Guitar Hero 2 is 360 exclusive too then. Yeah, right.

... No. Correct me if I'm wrong, but GH2 was ported. 

[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="tempest91"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

By this thinking Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance would be an exclusive xbox AA title as well.

Nice try Sony fans to land an exclusive by bending rules.

tempest91

Substance was on PS2 also :P

six months after it was released on xbox.....likely the same thing that will happen to sigma when they realize that with sony's poor sales the game won't make any money.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/793/793679p1.html 

NG isnt known for its sales.. Neither Ninja gaiden or Black sold even a million.. 

so they don't make any money then?

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

People, NGS is NOT A PORT. it is a completely remade game, from the ground up. No porting involved.

Regardless of it's score, it's an exclusive. I don't care if you've played the same missions before, it's exclusive.

Not-A-Stalker

By your logic Unreal Tourny 3 will be a PS3 exclusive as well since it has an engine built from the ground up for the PS3. Even though the game will essentially be the same as the 360 version (except for slightly slower framerates and slightly lower graphical prettiness).

No. Thats not my logic at all. :| What engines home is means nothing... And I'm pretty sure Unreal Engine3 is built for the PC. 

Epic made UT3 from the ground up for the PS3.  They are doing the same thing for the PC.  The story will be the same as they just drop in their code that runs on top of their engine and then make changes to optimize for the engine it's running on.  But the engine running UT3 for the PS3 is NOT the same engine as the one on the PC.  In other words it's not a port, but it is the same game.  same story line, same gameplay, same character models. Sure the PC and 360 will look better, but that doesnt' make it exclusive to either platform. Also if epic adds extra content to each one (like soul caliber did) it won't make it exclsuive either.

it won't matter, because it won't get a AAA score... even though it's the best version of the game thus far.

then you'll get the weirdos coming in saying NGB is better because of the higher score.

as far as exclusivity goes.  it's PS3 exclusive so far.  GS says it themselves in their latest preview.  the improvement in visuals is indeed significant, and there's enough gameplay additions to set it apart from the others.

I really don't care what the PS3 bashers on this forum have to say, if the game gets an AAA score it's AAA exclusive in my eyes.  I've never played the Xbox versions of the game so I'm really excited on this game.  Anyone can sit here and say, it's a port, it doesn't count or Forza 2 doesn't deserve the score it got, but at the end of the day the consumer will be happy with both games.  SergeantSnitch

Just like xbox has an exclusive version of Guitar Hero 2. And the wii is getting an exclusive Resident Evil 4.  Heck why not change all the rules we've been using in system wars to make the flopstation3 appear better than it is.

Why not count all PS2 AAA Exclusives as PS3 exclusives also?  I mean you can play them on the PS3 so why not?

[QUOTE="RevenMan"]You silly cows, you can't just change the system wars rules like some above posters mentioned if NG:Sigma is exclusive then GRAW and Guitar Hero 2 are also Xbox360 exclusives, from what i have seen/read its basicly the same game with some new better graphics and some rachel action. Im not saying its a bad game or anything on the contrary its a great game but people that have an xbox or a xbox360 have probably alredy played it and its the same experience like in NG:Sigma.e20Dylan

with all the additions its obviously a different experience... why would people buy it if its the same experience? this game will sell like hot cakes

 Ok so whay you are saying is that Guitar Hero 2 and GRAW are exclusives? I bet you haven't even played the original NG or NGB if you have you would know this game is the same with improved graphics and a little new content the gameplay is exactly the same.Like I said I don't think that people who have alredy played the original NG or NGB will be buying it but its still a must buy for the people that haven't played either.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]I really don't care what the PS3 bashers on this forum have to say, if the game gets an AAA score it's AAA exclusive in my eyes. I've never played the Xbox versions of the game so I'm really excited on this game. Anyone can sit here and say, it's a port, it doesn't count or Forza 2 doesn't deserve the score it got, but at the end of the day the consumer will be happy with both games. mikasa

Just like xbox has an exclusive version of Guitar Hero 2. And the wii is getting an exclusive Resident Evil 4. Heck why not change all the rules we've been using in system wars to make the flopstation3 appear better than it is.

Why not count all PS2 AAA Exclusives as PS3 exclusives also? I mean you can play them on the PS3 so why not?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]genma onimusha, REmake, ng:black, etc. were never considered exclusives. why start now?Sparky04

Why would Ninja Gaiden Black not counted as an exclusive when it came out? 

/shrug

cows said "no."

it's the same basic game but with some new stuff added.

Epic made UT3 from the ground up for the PS3. They are doing the same thing for the PC. The story will be the same as they just drop in their code that runs on top of their engine and then make changes to optimize for the engine it's running on. But the engine running UT3 for the PS3 is NOT the same engine as the one on the PC. In other words it's not a port, but it is the same game. same story line, same gameplay, same character models. Sure the PC and 360 will look better, but that doesnt' make it exclusive to either platform. Also if epic adds extra content to each one (like soul caliber did) it won't make it exclsuive either.

mikasa

Lead platform means nothing... And just like Casey said: " if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though."

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]I really don't care what the PS3 bashers on this forum have to say, if the game gets an AAA score it's AAA exclusive in my eyes. I've never played the Xbox versions of the game so I'm really excited on this game. Anyone can sit here and say, it's a port, it doesn't count or Forza 2 doesn't deserve the score it got, but at the end of the day the consumer will be happy with both games. SergeantSnitch

Just like xbox has an exclusive version of Guitar Hero 2. And the wii is getting an exclusive Resident Evil 4. Heck why not change all the rules we've been using in system wars to make the flopstation3 appear better than it is.

Why not count all PS2 AAA Exclusives as PS3 exclusives also? I mean you can play them on the PS3 so why not?

I agree with the consumer winning.  But why post here if you don't care what you have to say?

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

Epic made UT3 from the ground up for the PS3. They are doing the same thing for the PC. The story will be the same as they just drop in their code that runs on top of their engine and then make changes to optimize for the engine it's running on. But the engine running UT3 for the PS3 is NOT the same engine as the one on the PC. In other words it's not a port, but it is the same game. same story line, same gameplay, same character models. Sure the PC and 360 will look better, but that doesnt' make it exclusive to either platform. Also if epic adds extra content to each one (like soul caliber did) it won't make it exclsuive either.

Not-A-Stalker

Lead platform means nothing... And just like Casey said: " if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though."

I'm not talking lead platform (besides Epic changed that).  I'm saying the PS3 version has a custom engine made specifically for the cell.  No porting what-so-ever.  So if NG:S is exclusive by your logic so is UT3.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though. Not-A-Stalker

If being rebuilt completely doesn't alone not constitute being exclusive, what else does it need? Content? I feel NGS has enough extra content to be considered an exclusive. 

different story, different level design, different controls, etc.

It is an exclusive because it provides that NEXT GEN experience that cannot be done on the XBOX(that was LAST GEN) and also gives me that extra content, thats enough for those who have played it before to buy it again but lets face it those who have played it before are xbox owners so.. they would have to have a PS3 and I really doubt the majority of XBOX owners are now PS3 owners.. PS2 owners didn't get Ninja Gaiden, so it will be a totally different and NEW game to those who moved from PS2 to PS3(The majority at the moment)...  Everyone wouldn't be screaming for an FF7 remake if they could just go play the FF7 for PS1 and get the same experience out of it.Dahaka-UK

Actually the majority are going to the 360 or Wii.  PS2 owners are either jumping ship or sitting tight.

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

Epic made UT3 from the ground up for the PS3. They are doing the same thing for the PC. The story will be the same as they just drop in their code that runs on top of their engine and then make changes to optimize for the engine it's running on. But the engine running UT3 for the PS3 is NOT the same engine as the one on the PC. In other words it's not a port, but it is the same game. same story line, same gameplay, same character models. Sure the PC and 360 will look better, but that doesnt' make it exclusive to either platform. Also if epic adds extra content to each one (like soul caliber did) it won't make it exclsuive either.

mikasa

Lead platform means nothing... And just like Casey said: " if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though."

I'm not talking lead platform (besides Epic changed that). I'm saying the PS3 version has a custom engine made specifically for the cell. No porting what-so-ever. So if NG:S is exclusive by your logic so is UT3.

What engine they use means nothing! That is not my logic at all! UT3 for PC,360 and PS3 will be the exact same game, but will probably have a little gameplay tweaking on the PS3 due to using a different engine.

NGS however, is far from being the exact same game as NGB. 

I copied this from the NGS page here on Gamespot:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Publisher:Tecmo
Developer:Team Ninja

Release Date:Jun 26, 2007(more)

Guitar Hero II

Publisher:RedOctane
Developer:Harmonix Music
Release Date:Apr 3, 2007(more)
Also On: PS2

AKA: Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (US)

Publisher:Ubisoft
Developer:Ubisoft Paris

Release Date:Mar 9, 2006(more)

Also On: PC | PS2 | XBOX

So according to Gamespot, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is PS3 exclusive.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

Epic made UT3 from the ground up for the PS3. They are doing the same thing for the PC. The story will be the same as they just drop in their code that runs on top of their engine and then make changes to optimize for the engine it's running on. But the engine running UT3 for the PS3 is NOT the same engine as the one on the PC. In other words it's not a port, but it is the same game. same story line, same gameplay, same character models. Sure the PC and 360 will look better, but that doesnt' make it exclusive to either platform. Also if epic adds extra content to each one (like soul caliber did) it won't make it exclsuive either.

Not-A-Stalker

Lead platform means nothing... And just like Casey said: " if it's rebuilt from the ground up then it's not a port. this doesn't always mean it's exclusive either, though."

I'm not talking lead platform (besides Epic changed that). I'm saying the PS3 version has a custom engine made specifically for the cell. No porting what-so-ever. So if NG:S is exclusive by your logic so is UT3.

What engine they use means nothing! That is not my logic at all! UT3 for PC,360 and PS3 will be the exact same game, but will probably have a little gameplay tweaking on the PS3 due to using a different engine.

NGS however, is far from being the exact same game as NGB. 

First you claimed since it wasn't a port but new code from the ground up (which means new engine) makes it exclusive.
Now you say 20% extra content makes it a completly different game.  Whatever, you'll say anything to find an exclusive AAA on the PS3.  ANd even then it has the potential to flop since it's the 3rd iteration of the same game.

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]It is an exclusive because it provides that NEXT GEN experience that cannot be done on the XBOX(that was LAST GEN) and also gives me that extra content, thats enough for those who have played it before to buy it again but lets face it those who have played it before are xbox owners so.. they would have to have a PS3 and I really doubt the majority of XBOX owners are now PS3 owners.. PS2 owners didn't get Ninja Gaiden, so it will be a totally different and NEW game to those who moved from PS2 to PS3(The majority at the moment)... Everyone wouldn't be screaming for an FF7 remake if they could just go play the FF7 for PS1 and get the same experience out of it.mikasa

Actually the majority are going to the 360 or Wii. PS2 owners are either jumping ship or sitting tight.

Well at the moment there are about 3 mill PS3 owners... I'm guessing they are all hardcore sony fans that owned a PS2...  

I copied this from the NGS page here on Gamespot:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Publisher:Tecmo
Developer:Team Ninja

Release Date:Jun 26, 2007(more)

 

Notice how it doesn't say "Also On:" like these do?

Guitar Hero II

Publisher:RedOctane
Developer:Harmonix Music
Release Date:Apr 3, 2007(more)
Also On: PS

 

AKA: Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (US)

Publisher:Ubisoft
Developer:Ubisoft Paris

Release Date:Mar 9, 2006(more)

Also On: PC | PS2 | XBOX

 

So according to Gamespot, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is PS3 exclusive. ultima-flare

So does that mean you can also claim all PS2 exclusive AAA as PS3 exclusive AAA?  didn't think so.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

People, NGS is NOT A PORT. it is a completely remade game, from the ground up. No porting involved.

Regardless of it's score, it's an exclusive. I don't care if you've played the same missions before, it's exclusive.

Not-A-Stalker

Port and remake are defiantly not the same thing. If Square Enix remade FFVII with all the same characters, environments items and dialoge, would you consider it a port?

Port= Taking a game and chaning it so it will play on another system, basically.

Remake= Creating an entire game, but with the key points of the game being the same as its original, basically.

NGS is a REMAKE. No reason why it shouldn't be considered an exclusive. 

I copied this from the NGS page here on Gamespot:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Publisher:Tecmo
Developer:Team Ninja

Release Date:Jun 26, 2007(more)

 

Notice how it doesn't say "Also On:" like these do?

Guitar Hero II

Publisher:RedOctane
Developer:Harmonix Music
Release Date:Apr 3, 2007(more)
Also On: PS

 

AKA: Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (US)

Publisher:Ubisoft
Developer:Ubisoft Paris

Release Date:Mar 9, 2006(more)

Also On: PC | PS2 | XBOX

 

So according to Gamespot, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is PS3 exclusive.

 

 

 

ultima-flare

Kind of ironic since the 360 version of GRAW is more of an exclusive then Ninja Gaiden for the PS3... 

Yes it is.  Ninja Gaiden Sigma is different from NG and NG:B

Huge graphics upgrade, new levels, new missions, more gameplay, etc. 

[QUOTE="ultima-flare"]

I copied this from the NGS page here on Gamespot:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Publisher:Tecmo
Developer:Team Ninja

Release Date:Jun 26, 2007(more)

 

Notice how it doesn't say "Also On:" like these do?

Guitar Hero II

Publisher:RedOctane
Developer:Harmonix Music
Release Date:Apr 3, 2007(more)
Also On: PS

 

AKA: Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (US)

Publisher:Ubisoft
Developer:Ubisoft Paris

Release Date:Mar 9, 2006(more)

Also On: PC | PS2 | XBOX

 

So according to Gamespot, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is PS3 exclusive. mikasa

So does that mean you can also claim all PS2 exclusive AAA as PS3 exclusive AAA? didn't think so.

Uhh no. Gamespot has PS2 games in the PS2 section. IDK where you pulled that from. 

[QUOTE="ultima-flare"]

Baird-06

Kind of ironic since the 360 version of GRAW is more of an exclusive then Ninja Gaiden for the PS3...

I agree GRAW on 360 should be considered exclusive, but unfortunately,Gamespot doesn't have it listed as exclusive.

First you claimed since it wasn't a port but new code from the ground up (which means new engine) makes it exclusive.
Now you say 20% extra content makes it a completly different game. Whatever, you'll say anything to find an exclusive AAA on the PS3. ANd even then it has the potential to flop since it's the 3rd iteration of the same game.

mikasa

I never said anything about codes or engines... I don't care about that. A new engine measn nothing.

And 20% is a crap-load of content. That, plus EXTREMELY beefed graphics and environments.  

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="ultima-flare"]

I copied this from the NGS page here on Gamespot:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Publisher:Tecmo
Developer:Team Ninja

Release Date:Jun 26, 2007(more)

 

Notice how it doesn't say "Also On:" like these do?

Guitar Hero II

Publisher:RedOctane
Developer:Harmonix Music
Release Date:Apr 3, 2007(more)
Also On: PS

 

AKA: Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (US)

Publisher:Ubisoft
Developer:Ubisoft Paris

Release Date:Mar 9, 2006(more)

Also On: PC | PS2 | XBOX

 

So according to Gamespot, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is PS3 exclusive. ultima-flare

So does that mean you can also claim all PS2 exclusive AAA as PS3 exclusive AAA? didn't think so.

Uhh no. Gamespot has PS2 games in the PS2 section. IDK where you pulled that from. 

Because you can play them on teh PS3 and now the PS3 upscales them as well, so they are better on PS3 (minus the rumble).

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

First you claimed since it wasn't a port but new code from the ground up (which means new engine) makes it exclusive.
Now you say 20% extra content makes it a completly different game. Whatever, you'll say anything to find an exclusive AAA on the PS3. ANd even then it has the potential to flop since it's the 3rd iteration of the same game.

Not-A-Stalker

I never said anything about codes or engines... I don't care about that. A new engine measn nothing.

And 20% is a crap-load of content. That, plus EXTREMELY beefed graphics and environments.  

But you said they started from the ground up.  That my friend is saying they have a new engine whether you realize it or not.

[QUOTE="ultima-flare"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="ultima-flare"]

mikasa

So does that mean you can also claim all PS2 exclusive AAA as PS3 exclusive AAA? didn't think so.

Uhh no. Gamespot has PS2 games in the PS2 section. IDK where you pulled that from.

Because you can play them on teh PS3 and now the PS3 upscales them as well, so they are better on PS3 (minus the rumble).

They say PlayStation 2 on their boxes. They are listed as PS2 games on Gamespot. They are PS2 games, not PS3 games. 

who cares? the game is gonna be great and will probably score high. I'll be enjoying playing it while you guys can argue about whether or not it deserves to be classified as an "exclusive" AAAwhodeysay85

Well, Sigma itself is on PS3 only so I think yes

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

First you claimed since it wasn't a port but new code from the ground up (which means new engine) makes it exclusive.
Now you say 20% extra content makes it a completly different game. Whatever, you'll say anything to find an exclusive AAA on the PS3. ANd even then it has the potential to flop since it's the 3rd iteration of the same game.

mikasa

I never said anything about codes or engines... I don't care about that. A new engine measn nothing.

And 20% is a crap-load of content. That, plus EXTREMELY beefed graphics and environments.

But you said they started from the ground up. That my friend is saying they have a new engine whether you realize it or not.

Not necessarily. :| They could use the same engine and make a new game with it...

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

First you claimed since it wasn't a port but new code from the ground up (which means new engine) makes it exclusive.
Now you say 20% extra content makes it a completly different game. Whatever, you'll say anything to find an exclusive AAA on the PS3. ANd even then it has the potential to flop since it's the 3rd iteration of the same game.

Not-A-Stalker

I never said anything about codes or engines... I don't care about that. A new engine measn nothing.

And 20% is a crap-load of content. That, plus EXTREMELY beefed graphics and environments.

But you said they started from the ground up. That my friend is saying they have a new engine whether you realize it or not.

Not necessarily. :| They could use the same engine and make a new game with it...

Do you know anything about computer architectures?  If so, you'll know what is meant by port and remake.  You claim remake (which I'm not arguing). But I am saying a remake != exclusive. where you are saying remake == exclusive.

Also remake == new engine & new graphics. 

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

First you claimed since it wasn't a port but new code from the ground up (which means new engine) makes it exclusive.
Now you say 20% extra content makes it a completly different game. Whatever, you'll say anything to find an exclusive AAA on the PS3. ANd even then it has the potential to flop since it's the 3rd iteration of the same game.

mikasa

I never said anything about codes or engines... I don't care about that. A new engine measn nothing.

And 20% is a crap-load of content. That, plus EXTREMELY beefed graphics and environments.

But you said they started from the ground up. That my friend is saying they have a new engine whether you realize it or not.

Not necessarily. :| They could use the same engine and make a new game with it...

Do you know anything about computer architectures? If so, you'll know what is meant by port and remake. You claim remake (which I'm not arguing). But I am saying a remake != exclusive. where you are saying remake == exclusive.

Also remake == new engine & new graphics.

I don't know anything aboutr computer architectures. But I do know what a port or a remake is.

And remake does not necessarily mean its using a new engine or has better graphics. Graphics aren't everything...