So is the Wii U Going to be the Wii All Over Again? A 3rd Party Wasteland

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Like I said in your Video Bond.

Possibly the main reason(s) why the WiiU isn't getting most of the new 3rd Party Games is probably

A) That strange CPU they got there.

and

B) The more Devices a Game is released, the Higher the Development costs. Which would make sense, since many 3rd Party PC games are either Delayed or Ported in favor of the Console. (Delayed and ported to cut costs.)

LegatoSkyheart

what games are those?

AMD C-50/C-60/E-350/E-450/Z-01/Z-60 examples

1. C-50's Gears Of War, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q40Dg6w9UZc

2. C-60's Portal 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chkChw_cEwA

3. C-60's Dirt 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7pLN1Bvqs

4. E-350's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teHC8mmOCGY

5. E-350's Mass Effect 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITcjnjIQsM

6. E-450's Dirt 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I-k0cPXAkc

AMD C-50/C-60/E-350/E-450/Z-01/Z-60 APUs uses dual core AMD Bobcat CPU cores (tiny CPU cores) and Radeon HD with 80 stream processors config.

Base on GPU's die size and 64bit DDR3 memory, Wii U's GPU is similar to Radeon HD 7550M/7570M (400 to 480 stream processor config) .

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] CPU shouldn't be an issue since it doesn't stop my tablet PC running console ported multi-platform games.ronvalencia

what games are those?

AMD C-50/C-60/E-350 APU examples

1. C-50's Gears Of War, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q40Dg6w9UZc

2. C-60's Portal 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chkChw_cEwA

3. C-60's Dirt 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7pLN1Bvqs

4. E-350's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teHC8mmOCGY

5. E-350's Mass Effect 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITcjnjIQsM

AMD C-50/C-60/E-350/E-450/Z-01/Z-60 APUs uses dual core AMD Bobcat CPU cores (tiny CPU cores) and Radeon HD with 80 stream processors config.

Base on GPU's die size and 64bit DDR3 memory, Wii U's GPU is similar to Radeon HD 7550M/7570M (400 to 480 stream processor config) .

hmm....must be Development costs then.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

what games are those?

LegatoSkyheart

AMD C-50/C-60/E-350 APU examples

1. C-50's Gears Of War, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q40Dg6w9UZc

2. C-60's Portal 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chkChw_cEwA

3. C-60's Dirt 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7pLN1Bvqs

4. E-350's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teHC8mmOCGY

5. E-350's Mass Effect 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITcjnjIQsM

AMD C-50/C-60/E-350/E-450/Z-01/Z-60 APUs uses dual core AMD Bobcat CPU cores (tiny CPU cores) and Radeon HD with 80 stream processors config.

Base on GPU's die size and 64bit DDR3 memory, Wii U's GPU is similar to Radeon HD 7550M/7570M (400 to 480 stream processor config) .

hmm....must be Development costs then.

Development costs vs install base.

What do people expect from a kiddy platform? I'm sure it'll get all the sesame street, fisher price and playskool games.

Development costs vs install base.

ronvalencia

kinda silly to blame install base, but yeah I'll dig.

What do people expect from a kiddy platform? I'm sure it'll get all the sesame street, fisher price and playskool games.

percuvius2

ha-ha

Ineed, its not even getting 360/ps3 multiplats never mind 720/ps4 games.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Development costs vs install base.

LegatoSkyheart

kinda silly to blame install base, but yeah I'll dig.

Well, PowerVR enabled tablets says hi i.e. they get plenty of 3rd party supports due to the install base and still has GPU performance worst than AMD Radeon HD 6250M. Btw, PowerVR SGX 54x has DX9 level features.

Wii U must build it's install base.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Development costs vs install base.

ronvalencia

kinda silly to blame install base, but yeah I'll dig.

Well, PowerVR enabled tablets says hi i.e. they get plenty of 3rd party supports due to the install base and still has GPU performance worst than AMD Radeon HD 6250M.

Wii U must build it's install base.

Like I said, I'll dig it. meaning I'll agree with ya.

[QUOTE="humpmasterflex"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Yes, the devs are going to move onto next gen hardware, the Wii U won't be able to handle the same games. They'll get different ones by the same publisher, like with the Wii.

straightedge_X

The WiiU is a flop right out of the gate. dead on arrival with no games. No bioshock for it either lol

Bioware don't make Bioshock you FN tard

Ill get a Wii U when it has a 64 GB hard drive, is $199 and has tons of exclusives already out and discounted.caseypayne69

Most of those games had already started development before the Wiiu had been announced. So I can see why developers wouldn't bother. But from here on a lot more games should be coming over

Most of those games had already started development before the Wiiu had been announced. So I can see why developers wouldn't bother. But from here on a lot more games should be coming over

VendettaRed07

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Most of those games had already started development before the Wiiu had been announced. So I can see why developers wouldn't bother. But from here on a lot more games should be coming over

Chris_Williams

Most likely. Not really why I would buy a WiiU though.

Certainly seems that way. And a lot of those who bought into the hype of the original Wii only to toss it in their closets after a month aren't likely to be so willing to give the Wii part 2 a shot.

Seems a bit better than Wii was but still not much better...

I think they will soon have to resort to plan b, that is making/getting as many attractive and good exclusives as they can.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Once again, Nintendo has made a system that will end up only being good for playing the games Nintendo publishes themselves, and as I have ever since I stopped buying Gamecube games, I question why they are even in the console race anymore.

Timstuff

They intentionally did it. For a system that sells for $350 you can get a lot better tech inside if you wanted. Nintendo designed the WiiU to be a 1st-party haven with massive profits on hardware. They want to stifle the competition.

Except back then everyone wanted to make games for them but today they have to bribe the 3rd parties to even consider making games for their (home) systems...

I'm ok with it. As long as Nintendo keeps producing a solid stream of the best 1st party titles in the industry as they have done for every generation prior to this one, I'm satisfied. I usually have Nintendo's console for their exclusives and Sony's console for the multiplats every generation.

Unfortunately it looks like it

Blackbond

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

While I agree it's baron right now, aren't a lot of these games that had planned development cycles?

santoron

/grammarnazi.jpg:P

Absolutely. At the same time, the publishers had more notice than we did about the WiiU's launch and capabilities... and we knew 1 1/2 years in advance.

Every game on the list has it's own challenges in development, but a healthy number could've been prepped for a WiiU release if the publishers wanted them. And hey, several of them still might. If Nintendo was serious about wanting to bring core gamers back to their system, then they are likely pushing hard with publishers to expand support ASAP.

wait?! no spartacus legends???!! Nooooooooooooooooooo

Give the Wii U time, it will eventually have a library.

[QUOTE="humpmasterflex"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Yes, the devs are going to move onto next gen hardware, the Wii U won't be able to handle the same games. They'll get different ones by the same publisher, like with the Wii.

straightedge_X

The WiiU is a flop right out of the gate. dead on arrival with no games. No bioshock for it either lol

Bioware?? Oh lawddddd :lol:

DumbassSheep haha

3rd party support should be better than the Wii but that's not saying much. Either way, I think most 3rd party publishers will ignore the WiiU

2014 should look great.

Well we will have to see what the devs do with it. So far the multiplats for it look the same as the other two systems, no point in rebuying them. I will be getting a Wii U because I think it's going to be a great system, but there is no way it's going to be considered true next gen. It simply won't be able to handle the real next gen games.

It hasn't even been out a month yet and already you're judging this? It already has all the big name games as well as Nintendos assurance that they are focusing on getting third parties. Seriously, you complain about it on the Wii and then when they try and fix it, you judge them within a month of launch. Just sad.

[QUOTE="straightedge_X"][QUOTE="humpmasterflex"]

The WiiU is a flop right out of the gate. dead on arrival with no games. No bioshock for it either lol

Obviously_Right

Bioware?? Oh lawddddd :lol:

DumbassSheep haha

• Western multiplats? Yes
• Japanese core? Undecided. We will see how the battle for Japan will unfold. There is nothing stopping Wii U from taking the role as the core home console (as well as casual), gaining more marketshare from Sony there, thus securing Japanese 3rd party support in the same way 3DS destroyed Vita.
• If Wii U is a success there and PS4 only mildly so, we will probably see the western-centric Japanese tier (MGS, RE, Hitman, FF) make an appearance on Wii U.

Still, Wii didn't have games of the Rayman Legends, MH 3U, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2 caliber in its 1st year on the market.

I'm personally more concerned about the Japanese core market. I hope that Wii U becomes the go to machine for 1st party Nintendo and 3rd party Japanese games. That way I don't need a secondary home console, and can play some PS4/720 games I want on Steam instead. Basically I want my Dynasty Warriors / Platinum Games games / Metal Gear Solid / etc. fix without having to shell out for a new, rather expensive, system.