So it's been about six months since the PS3 and Wii launched

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

CaseyWegner

Should that matter?  The idea of a good game is very subjective along with the ratings from gaming sites; it's all opinion, nothing more.  If everyone were to only play AAA games, a lot of fun would be missed.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?masterdeviance

Only a fool wouldn't wait for the games that are releasing this fall (on both the Wii and PS3). I have all three and I think that the Wii is lacking more compared to the other two consoles at the moment :(.

The only reason people tend to believe that there are no "good" games to play on the PS3 is becuase of no AAA title here on GameSpot. Fans forget that the PS3 is selling very well, especially with actual next-gen competition.

The Wii is somehow excused most of the time for lack of games due to it's crazy sales.

The Wii's success doesn't really have much to do with its gaming library at this point. The motion sensor technology has been the real selling point.

Yeah your right. That and the price point. But remember the software attatchment rate is low. Isn't this thread about games though?

Within 6 months, a console ought to at least have one killer app. I can count two for the Wii: Wii sports and LOZ:TP.

I can't count a single one for PS3 though...(and no, Resistance doesn't count, sorry)

masterdeviance

Killer app has to have AAA status. We go by gamespot scores. The PS3 has 1 AAA and so does wii. Different is Wii's has an  AAA overrated exclusive and the PS3 has a AAA year old mulitplat. 

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?hotdaisy18

Really?

6 months of X360 they had: CAll Duty 2, DOA 4, Madden, Need 4 Speed M. Wanted, Perfect DZ, PGR 3, Tony Hawk, King Kong, Quake 4, Kameo, Fight Night R 3, Full Auto, Ghost Recon A. War, Oufit, Battlfield 2, Burnout Rev, Rumble Rose XX, X-men 3.

Did I miss anything?

PS3 same time period: Tony Hawk, Marvel Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Resistance Fall of Man, Madden, NBA 07, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Carbon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Genji 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, F1 Racing, Def Jam Icon, NBA Street Homecourt, Motorstorm, Armored Core 4, Virtua Tennis3, Splinter Cell Doubt Agent, Spiderman 3, F.E.A.R, MLB 07.

Fanboy or not, if you didn't complain about X360's lineup and complain about PS3's lineup for the first 6 months......you don't have a leg to stand on.

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

Now it's about scores? Games are games regardless of scores. Looking outside of SW scores, they can be fair or less in comparison. But if you put those scores aside, then you have a even amount of games.

What was the point of this thread again?

Regarding the general gaming public, I would assume that Crackdown is the title to pick out of those four. I'm talking casuals and hardcore together. Michael85

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?CaseyWegner

Really?

6 months of X360 they had: CAll Duty 2, DOA 4, Madden, Need 4 Speed M. Wanted, Perfect DZ, PGR 3, Tony Hawk, King Kong, Quake 4, Kameo, Fight Night R 3, Full Auto, Ghost Recon A. War, Oufit, Battlfield 2, Burnout Rev, Rumble Rose XX, X-men 3.

Did I miss anything?

PS3 same time period: Tony Hawk, Marvel Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Resistance Fall of Man, Madden, NBA 07, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Carbon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Genji 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, F1 Racing, Def Jam Icon, NBA Street Homecourt, Motorstorm, Armored Core 4, Virtua Tennis3, Splinter Cell Doubt Agent, Spiderman 3, F.E.A.R, MLB 07.

Fanboy or not, if you didn't complain about X360's lineup and complain about PS3's lineup for the first 6 months......you don't have a leg to stand on.

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

Now wait a minute I'm confused.  You are asking what games are available.  Does a person who only owns a PS3 care if X360 has the same game?  I guess they would if they were some die hardfan of MS because then they would go into "my graphics pwn yours" type arguement HOWEVER your question was where are the games.

Technically speaking PS3 has more games and in my opinion BETTER games than X360 did for it's first 6 months.  Does that mean PS3 has better games when compared to X360 right now, no.  X360 by far has the best software BUT all that nice software came in the 4th qtr (year in its lifecycle). 

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360.  If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

I think the point of this thread is:

Wii
1 AAA (9.1)
14 AA


PS3
1 AAA (9.5)
16 AA

[QUOTE="masterdeviance"]

Within 6 months, a console ought to at least have one killer app. I can count two for the Wii: Wii sports and LOZ:TP.

I can't count a single one for PS3 though...(and no, Resistance doesn't count, sorry)

Silvereign

Killer app has to have AAA status. We go by gamespot scores. The PS3 has 1 AAA and so does wii. Different is Wii's has an  AAA overrated exclusive and the PS3 has a AAA year old mulitplat. 

See I don't think for the PS3 "just wait" should have been accepted. It isn't like the PS3 was in the same situation the Wii was when 3rd party developers came to the table extremely late having already written the system off. The PS3 and the 360 I believe had a ton of support and attention from the get go. The whole "just wait " shouldn't even be an issue with them. They had the following and support. It comes down to that price tag, they shot themselves in the foot with it. The waiting period for them should be over and even then it was generous I think to begin with.NeoStar9

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?hotdaisy18

Really?

6 months of X360 they had: CAll Duty 2, DOA 4, Madden, Need 4 Speed M. Wanted, Perfect DZ, PGR 3, Tony Hawk, King Kong, Quake 4, Kameo, Fight Night R 3, Full Auto, Ghost Recon A. War, Oufit, Battlfield 2, Burnout Rev, Rumble Rose XX, X-men 3.

Did I miss anything?

PS3 same time period: Tony Hawk, Marvel Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Resistance Fall of Man, Madden, NBA 07, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Carbon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Genji 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, F1 Racing, Def Jam Icon, NBA Street Homecourt, Motorstorm, Armored Core 4, Virtua Tennis3, Splinter Cell Doubt Agent, Spiderman 3, F.E.A.R, MLB 07.

Fanboy or not, if you didn't complain about X360's lineup and complain about PS3's lineup for the first 6 months......you don't have a leg to stand on.

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

Now it's about scores? Games are games regardless of scores. Looking outside of SW scores, they can be fair or less in comparison. But if you put those scores aside, then you have a even amount of games.

What was the point of this thread again?

now it's about scores? when was it not? :|

[QUOTE="masterdeviance"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?Episode_Eve

Only a fool wouldn't wait for the games that are releasing this fall (on both the Wii and PS3). I have all three and I think that the Wii is lacking more compared to the other two consoles at the moment :(.

The only reason people tend to believe that there are no "good" games to play on the PS3 is becuase of no AAA title here on GameSpot. Fans forget that the PS3 is selling very well, especially with actual next-gen competition.

The Wii is somehow excused most of the time for lack of games due to it's crazy sales.

The Wii's success doesn't really have much to do with its gaming library at this point. The motion sensor technology has been the real selling point.

Yeah your right. That and the price point. But remember the software attatchment rate is low. Isn't this thread about games though?

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

wii already has zelda as a killer app. later this year wii will get 3 more: pokeman, mario, metroid, and ssbb. what more could you ask for in wiis lineup. 5 of nintendo's top franchises in 1 year.

the good games will start rolling in this summer. remember it took 360 1 year to get its only killer app. just wait until the holiday season for the ps3. sony is going to annialate the competition this year.

kevbo77

Right, because PDZ, Oblivion, and GRAW, all of which were AAA titles werent system sellers? Not to mention R6V, Dead Rising, COD2, Madden 07 as well, all of which came out in the first year. Dude, your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinagenic drugs,...I see through you.

FYI, Dead Rising didn't release until August 06. 

Titles that were AAA back when they were rated WOULD NOT be AAA today.  That's the flaw in people's logic trying to compare "scores" of X360 games at launch and PS3 games at launch.

i forgot gears came out around this same time last year.

[QUOTE="masterdeviance"]

Within 6 months, a console ought to at least have one killer app. I can count two for the Wii: Wii sports and LOZ:TP.

I can't count a single one for PS3 though...(and no, Resistance doesn't count, sorry)

nickmag

judging by the sales, no. it's not close to a killer app. 

[QUOTE="masterdeviance"]

The Wii's success doesn't really have much to do with its gaming library at this point. The motion sensor technology has been the real selling point.

Iyethar

Wrong.  It's the motion-sensing software that the technology enables.  Only a small minority composed of enthusiasts purchase hardware because they actually have interest in the hardware itself.  For the bulk of the market, acquiring the hardware is simply an obstacle to overcome in order to play the games they want to play.  You're forced to buy a DVD player to watch movies, and you're forced to buy a Wii to play Wii Sports or Super Paper Mario or Rayman Raving Rabbids or Zelda.

I disagree. With the exception of Zelda and Super Paper Mario, none of the Wii titles have sold very impressively. It's Wii Sports, which is already bundled in with the Wii, that is the real selling point. Thing is, it's hard to classify Wii sports as an actual game. I view it as more of a tech demo showcasing the appeal of the motion sensor control. Now, I'm not saying that the Wii will never sell due to it's software library. The new Mario Galaxy , Super Smash Bros. sequel and MP3 later on this year should provide plenty of reason to buy the Wii. I AM saying, however, that thus far, the Wii's game library has not been the selling point.

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360.  If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

darthogre

i don't have a 360. :|

compare AA and AAA exclusives for the first 6 months of each.

I AM saying, however, that thus far, the Wii's game library has not been the selling point. masterdeviance

[QUOTE="masterdeviance"]I AM saying, however, that thus far, the Wii's game library has not been the selling point. Jandurin

I love how people continue to dismiss Wii Sports.  It's the only game this industry has ever produced that's actually a contender to usurp the crown of the SMB pack-in. 

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360.  If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

CaseyWegner

i don't have a 360. :|

compare AA and AAA exclusives for the first 6 months of each.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360.  If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

CaseyWegner

i don't have a 360. :|

compare AA and AAA exclusives for the first 6 months of each.

Again, flawed comparison.

Those titles X360 released the first 6 months would NOT grade the same today.  PS3 suffers a lot because X360 has raised the bar ALOT when they had a lot of good software titles during the 4th qtr last year. 

I still find it funny that your question has now changed.....first it was where are the games and now it's where are the AAA exclusive games rofl.  Outside of the small percent of hardcore gamers no one cares that X360 had better games 1.5 years ago when all that was out there was PS2 and Wii games.

hahaha, just noticed I said Wii......meant GameCube but I suppose they are the same thing after all.

look at it this way, even if the amount of games available for 360 and ps3 are the same, thats not good enough to justify the extra 200 you have to spend on people who arent loyal to one side or the other, the extra 200 should get you better games a better experience and its 350 more than wii so it should be an experience lightyears past the wii, you get what you pay for right? well at this point you're not getting much from the ps3 spending all that extra money in some cases you're getting less IE software.mmirza23

[QUOTE="kevbo77"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

wii already has zelda as a killer app. later this year wii will get 3 more: pokeman, mario, metroid, and ssbb. what more could you ask for in wiis lineup. 5 of nintendo's top franchises in 1 year.

the good games will start rolling in this summer. remember it took 360 1 year to get its only killer app. just wait until the holiday season for the ps3. sony is going to annialate the competition this year.

darthogre

Right, because PDZ, Oblivion, and GRAW, all of which were AAA titles werent system sellers? Not to mention R6V, Dead Rising, COD2, Madden 07 as well, all of which came out in the first year. Dude, your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinagenic drugs,...I see through you.

FYI, Dead Rising didn't release until August 06.

Titles that were AAA back when they were rated WOULD NOT be AAA today. That's the flaw in people's logic trying to compare "scores" of X360 games at launch and PS3 games at launch.

True. Pretty much every sport game in 2006 got a AA+ score, even though many had less features than the last gen versions. 

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?CaseyWegner

Really?

6 months of X360 they had: CAll Duty 2, DOA 4, Madden, Need 4 Speed M. Wanted, Perfect DZ, PGR 3, Tony Hawk, King Kong, Quake 4, Kameo, Fight Night R 3, Full Auto, Ghost Recon A. War, Oufit, Battlfield 2, Burnout Rev, Rumble Rose XX, X-men 3.

Did I miss anything?

PS3 same time period: Tony Hawk, Marvel Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Resistance Fall of Man, Madden, NBA 07, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Carbon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Genji 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, F1 Racing, Def Jam Icon, NBA Street Homecourt, Motorstorm, Armored Core 4, Virtua Tennis3, Splinter Cell Doubt Agent, Spiderman 3, F.E.A.R, MLB 07.

Fanboy or not, if you didn't complain about X360's lineup and complain about PS3's lineup for the first 6 months......you don't have a leg to stand on.

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

Now it's about scores? Games are games regardless of scores. Looking outside of SW scores, they can be fair or less in comparison. But if you put those scores aside, then you have a even amount of games.

What was the point of this thread again?

now it's about scores? when was it not? :|

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

DementedDragon

Should that matter?  The idea of a good game is very subjective along with the ratings from gaming sites; it's all opinion, nothing more.  If everyone were to only play AAA games, a lot of fun would be missed.

we had to have some sort of standard to use here and gamespot's scores were what was decided.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?darthogre

Really?

6 months of X360 they had: CAll Duty 2, DOA 4, Madden, Need 4 Speed M. Wanted, Perfect DZ, PGR 3, Tony Hawk, King Kong, Quake 4, Kameo, Fight Night R 3, Full Auto, Ghost Recon A. War, Oufit, Battlfield 2, Burnout Rev, Rumble Rose XX, X-men 3.

Did I miss anything?

PS3 same time period: Tony Hawk, Marvel Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Resistance Fall of Man, Madden, NBA 07, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Carbon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Genji 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, F1 Racing, Def Jam Icon, NBA Street Homecourt, Motorstorm, Armored Core 4, Virtua Tennis3, Splinter Cell Doubt Agent, Spiderman 3, F.E.A.R, MLB 07.

Fanboy or not, if you didn't complain about X360's lineup and complain about PS3's lineup for the first 6 months......you don't have a leg to stand on.

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

Now wait a minute I'm confused. You are asking what games are available. Does a person who only owns a PS3 care if X360 has the same game? I guess they would if they were some die hardfan of MS because then they would go into "my graphics pwn yours" type arguement HOWEVER your question was where are the games.

Technically speaking PS3 has more games and in my opinion BETTER games than X360 did for it's first 6 months. Does that mean PS3 has better games when compared to X360 right now, no. X360 by far has the best software BUT all that nice software came in the 4th qtr (year in its lifecycle).

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360. If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]when are we going to stop hearing that we should give them time since they just launched? it's been six months. that sounds like plenty of time to me. :?pins_basic

Really?

6 months of X360 they had: CAll Duty 2, DOA 4, Madden, Need 4 Speed M. Wanted, Perfect DZ, PGR 3, Tony Hawk, King Kong, Quake 4, Kameo, Fight Night R 3, Full Auto, Ghost Recon A. War, Oufit, Battlfield 2, Burnout Rev, Rumble Rose XX, X-men 3.

Did I miss anything?

PS3 same time period: Tony Hawk, Marvel Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Resistance Fall of Man, Madden, NBA 07, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Carbon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Genji 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, F1 Racing, Def Jam Icon, NBA Street Homecourt, Motorstorm, Armored Core 4, Virtua Tennis3, Splinter Cell Doubt Agent, Spiderman 3, F.E.A.R, MLB 07.

Fanboy or not, if you didn't complain about X360's lineup and complain about PS3's lineup for the first 6 months......you don't have a leg to stand on.

compare AAA and AA exclusives. how does your list look after that?

Now wait a minute I'm confused. You are asking what games are available. Does a person who only owns a PS3 care if X360 has the same game? I guess they would if they were some die hardfan of MS because then they would go into "my graphics pwn yours" type arguement HOWEVER your question was where are the games.

Technically speaking PS3 has more games and in my opinion BETTER games than X360 did for it's first 6 months. Does that mean PS3 has better games when compared to X360 right now, no. X360 by far has the best software BUT all that nice software came in the 4th qtr (year in its lifecycle).

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360. If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

It's not a perfect list, just like I missed Virtua Fighter 3 for PS3.  Bottom line is the lineup qty and quality wise favors PS3 I believe.  That doesn't mean it can hold a candle to the CURRENT X360 games but it does mean if PS3 and X360 both launched at the same time, PS3 would probably fair higher in grades than X360.  It's an opinion of course but so are the very scores gamespot gives.  What I find funny is grading titles from SNES days higher than Spider-man 3.......are we sure we want to base an arguemnt on who is better when opinions like that exist on this website?

[QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="masterdeviance"]

The Wii's success doesn't really have much to do with its gaming library at this point. The motion sensor technology has been the real selling point.

masterdeviance

Wrong. It's the motion-sensing software that the technology enables. Only a small minority composed of enthusiasts purchase hardware because they actually have interest in the hardware itself. For the bulk of the market, acquiring the hardware is simply an obstacle to overcome in order to play the games they want to play. You're forced to buy a DVD player to watch movies, and you're forced to buy a Wii to play Wii Sports or Super Paper Mario or Rayman Raving Rabbids or Zelda.

I disagree. With the exception of Zelda and Super Paper Mario, none of the Wii titles have sold very impressively. It's Wii Sports, which is already bundled in with the Wii, that is the real selling point. Thing is, it's hard to classify Wii sports as an actual game. I view it as more of a tech demo showcasing the appeal of the motion sensor control. Now, I'm not saying that the Wii will never sell due to it's software library. The new Mario Galaxy , Super Smash Bros. sequel and MP3 later on this year should provide plenty of reason to buy the Wii. I AM saying, however, that thus far, the Wii's game library has not been the selling point.

Wii Sports was first on my list, y'ken?  And the other games on my list have sold well.  Anecdotally, I've watched each one sell systems and NPD backs me up.  Your semantics do nothing to change the fact that Wii Sports is software, and that Wii Sports and other software for the system is selling it.  No-one would buy it if they were not going to play software on it.

The software library is always the selling point for every platform.  The Wii and DS are not somehow exempt from this rule.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360.  If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

darthogre

i don't have a 360. :|

compare AA and AAA exclusives for the first 6 months of each.

Again, flawed comparison.

Those titles X360 released the first 6 months would NOT grade the same today.  PS3 suffers a lot because X360 has raised the bar ALOT when they had a lot of good software titles during the 4th qtr last year. 

I still find it funny that your question has now changed.....first it was where are the games and now it's where are the AAA exclusive games rofl.  Outside of the small percent of hardcore gamers no one cares that X360 had better games 1.5 years ago when all that was out there was PS2 and Wii games.

hahaha, just noticed I said Wii......meant GameCube but I suppose they are the same thing after all.

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

nobody takes gamespots scores serious around the net, everyone uses gamerankings now. when games are as expensive as they are now and consoles cost as much as cheap cars, youd be dumb to go off scores from one site especially when their credibility has taken hits.

also pc ports arent exclusive.Chris-Hansen

when did i say they were? :|

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

CaseyWegner

I'm not sure that the SW community cares about it so much anymore except for making flop/not-flop hype predictions. 

[QUOTE="masterdeviance"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="masterdeviance"]

The Wii's success doesn't really have much to do with its gaming library at this point. The motion sensor technology has been the real selling point.

Iyethar

Wrong. It's the motion-sensing software that the technology enables. Only a small minority composed of enthusiasts purchase hardware because they actually have interest in the hardware itself. For the bulk of the market, acquiring the hardware is simply an obstacle to overcome in order to play the games they want to play. You're forced to buy a DVD player to watch movies, and you're forced to buy a Wii to play Wii Sports or Super Paper Mario or Rayman Raving Rabbids or Zelda.

I disagree. With the exception of Zelda and Super Paper Mario, none of the Wii titles have sold very impressively. It's Wii Sports, which is already bundled in with the Wii, that is the real selling point. Thing is, it's hard to classify Wii sports as an actual game. I view it as more of a tech demo showcasing the appeal of the motion sensor control. Now, I'm not saying that the Wii will never sell due to it's software library. The new Mario Galaxy , Super Smash Bros. sequel and MP3 later on this year should provide plenty of reason to buy the Wii. I AM saying, however, that thus far, the Wii's game library has not been the selling point.

Wii Sports was first on my list, y'ken?  And the other games on my list have sold well.  Anecdotally, I've watched each one sell systems and NPD backs me up.  Your semantics do nothing to change the fact that Wii Sports is software, and that Wii Sports and other software for the system is selling it.  No-one would buy it if they were not going to play software on it.

The software library is always the selling point for every platform.  The Wii and DS are not somehow exempt from this rule.

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

You asked a question and I'll answer it, you have to wait just as long as you did for X360.  If that isn't good enough for you I think it's clear your judgement is impaired by loyaty to another console.

CaseyWegner

i don't have a 360. :|

compare AA and AAA exclusives for the first 6 months of each.

Again, flawed comparison.

Those titles X360 released the first 6 months would NOT grade the same today.  PS3 suffers a lot because X360 has raised the bar ALOT when they had a lot of good software titles during the 4th qtr last year. 

I still find it funny that your question has now changed.....first it was where are the games and now it's where are the AAA exclusive games rofl.  Outside of the small percent of hardcore gamers no one cares that X360 had better games 1.5 years ago when all that was out there was PS2 and Wii games.

hahaha, just noticed I said Wii......meant GameCube but I suppose they are the same thing after all.

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

lol, does this mean SNES > X360?

I mean if it had more AAA games during it's first 6 months of launch it must be better rofl.

I'm not calling you an idoit but I am finding it funny you want to start an argument with flawed logic but defend it because that is "system war standards".  Forgive me but I didn't honestly think the system war forum had standards.

Wii has an attachment rate of 4.9 compared to the 360s 5.4....so yeah someone is buying Wii games.VideoGameGuy

That's shipped games.  The real Wii attach ratio is probably somewhere around 3 to 3.5, not including Wii Sports.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

Iyethar

I'm not sure that the SW community cares about it so much anymore except for making flop/not-flop hype predictions. 

the hundreds of threads made here about the quality of games games say otherwise.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Wii has an attachment rate of 4.9 compared to the 360s 5.4....so yeah someone is buying Wii games.Iyethar

That's shipped games. The real Wii attach ratio is probably somewhere around 3 to 3.5, not including Wii Sports.

You know the xbox360 attach ratio is calculated the same way? 

we had to have some sort of standard to use here and gamespot's scores were what was decided.CaseyWegner

What very high standards this board has.  In the real world, most individuals wouldn't base the purchase of a product on opinionated ratings alone; it would only be a minor factor in their decision.  Because with opinion comes the power of persuasion.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]we had to have some sort of standard to use here and gamespot's scores were what was decided.DementedDragon

What very high standards this board has. In the real world, most individuals wouldn't base the purchase of a product on opinionated ratings alone; it would only be a minor factor in their decision. Because with opinion comes the power of persuasion.

Nithing we say in SW matters in the real world anyway ;) 

[QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

CaseyWegner

I'm not sure that the SW community cares about it so much anymore except for making flop/not-flop hype predictions.

the hundreds of threads made here about the quality of games games say otherwise.

Compared to the thousands of threads made about stuff that has no relation to GS review scores? 

lol, does this mean SNES > X360?

I mean if it had more AAA games during it's first 6 months of launch it must be better rofl.

I'm not calling you an idoit but I am finding it funny you want to start an argument with flawed logic but defend it because that is "system war standards".  Forgive me but I didn't honestly think the system war forum had standards.

darthogre

come back to the boat. you're drifting away. do you even realize that i didn't even mention the 360 until somebody else brought it up? i've never once even said that the 360 is better...i don't even have one. why are you bringing this snes into this?

there is no flaw in my logic. this is system wars so we use system wars standards.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Wii has an attachment rate of 4.9 compared to the 360s 5.4....so yeah someone is buying Wii games.loco145

That's shipped games. The real Wii attach ratio is probably somewhere around 3 to 3.5, not including Wii Sports.

You know the xbox360 attach ratio is calculated the same way?

ORLY?  Can you support this, I did not know that. 

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

Iyethar

I'm not sure that the SW community cares about it so much anymore except for making flop/not-flop hype predictions.

the hundreds of threads made here about the quality of games games say otherwise.

Compared to the thousands of threads made about stuff that has no relation to GS review scores? 

yes.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

my question hasn't changed at all. i'm not an idiot. i know there are lots of games for each system. what's the point in listing them if they aren't any good by system wars standards?

Iyethar

I'm not sure that the SW community cares about it so much anymore except for making flop/not-flop hype predictions.

the hundreds of threads made here about the quality of games games say otherwise.

Compared to the thousands of threads made about stuff that has no relation to GS review scores? 

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Plenty of time to do what?CaseyWegner

a common complaint is the lack of "good" games. how long should we have to wait?

ask the game devs.

games usually take like 18 months don't they?

and not all devs. have even gotten dev kits for Wii and ps3, especially ps3. 

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]nobody takes gamespots scores serious around the net, everyone uses gamerankings now. when games are as expensive as they are now and consoles cost as much as cheap cars, youd be dumb to go off scores from one site especially when their credibility has taken hits.

also pc ports arent exclusive.CaseyWegner

when did i say they were? :|

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

lol, does this mean SNES > X360?

I mean if it had more AAA games during it's first 6 months of launch it must be better rofl.

I'm not calling you an idoit but I am finding it funny you want to start an argument with flawed logic but defend it because that is "system war standards". Forgive me but I didn't honestly think the system war forum had standards.

CaseyWegner

come back to the boat. you're drifting away. do you even realize that i didn't even mention the 360 until somebody else brought it up? i've never once even said that the 360 is better...i don't even have one. why are you bringing this snes into this?

there is no flaw in my logic. this is system wars so we use system wars standards.

:lol:

which is what exactly?

system wars standards: PS TRIPLE IS DA **** WII SHOULD COPY PS TRIPLES GAMES.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Wii has an attachment rate of 4.9 compared to the 360s 5.4....so yeah someone is buying Wii games.Iyethar

That's shipped games. The real Wii attach ratio is probably somewhere around 3 to 3.5, not including Wii Sports.

You know the xbox360 attach ratio is calculated the same way?

ORLY? Can you support this, I did not know that.

How else you think is calculated? Most of the NPD data is restrained and isn't worldwide.