So it's NINTENDO'S fault we don't have GOLDENEYE on 360/Wii.

[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]

mario is owned by nintendo. goldeneye liscense is owned by activision. the game was made by rare.

-General_Ram-

i say its a matter of time. if banjo 1-2 can make it to XBLA then so can this. If activision is in full support that is.

It all depends on what contracts where signed. Banjo and Perfect Dark were completely owned by Rare and hence MS so Nintendo could do nothing. Its like Valve switching from Sierra to EA, the developer has complete controll of the IP. We wont see Donkey Kong 64 or Starfox games on the 360 because Nintendo ownes those IP's. With Goldeneye its allot more complected since apparently Nintondo, Rare (MS) and Activision have rights. Its not going to appear anywhere unless they all give the Ok and its Nintendo that's refusing to cooperate.

Lemmings don't care about GoldenEye when they have their Halo. AvIdGaMeR444

[QUOTE="EvilAshTwin"]

I cant help but wonder what game MS offered to be allowed to be published on VC. My thoughts is M$ offered up a crappy game in exchange for Goldeneye. So if you really think about it, its M$'s fault that noone has it right now.

Telling Nintendo to grow up because they refused to allow Goldeneye on XBLA is like telling M$ to grow up because they wont allow Gears of War to be published on the PS3.

CreepyBacon

Good GRIEF the amount of blind fanboyisem in this thread.

What are people not understanding? Microsoft wanted golden eye on the VC AND XBL. They was happy to have it on *both*.

Nintendo reaks the profits from the VC sales, microsoft from XBLA. It's WIN/WIN. Gamers win, Nintendo wins, Microsoft wins.

How can anybody argue differently? XD Are you really that in love with Nintendo? They simply put there foot down, ruined it for YOU, me, everyone. Sticking up for them over this is silly.

Glad someone got it! it's really not that difficult to comprehend, if they just read the article.

Nintendo obviously doesn't wan the legacy of this game to be on anything other then Nintendo. Given that Goldeneye is a huge name that this game would obviously push 360 more then Wii its easy to see why they don't want it to happen from a business standpoint.

Blackbond

Awww GoldenEye on XBL woulda bin sweet :DPhenom316

I understand their decision from a business standpoint. But as a gamer I think it's pretty greedy and somewhat childish :lol:. Then I think to myself... "Wouldn't all companies do this?"

Thats pretty lame Nintendo.

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Lemmings don't care about GoldenEye when they have their Halo. Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Nintendo obviously doesn't wan the legacy of this game to be on anything other then Nintendo. Given that Goldeneye is a huge name that this game would obviously push 360 more then Wii its easy to see why they don't want it to happen from a business standpoint.

Dreams-Visions

Goldeneye is one of the most revered games of all time. Nintendo in all likelyness doesn't want that game on anything other then a Nintendo platform. meaning it will only be remembered as a nintendo game.

[QUOTE="Phenom316"]Awww GoldenEye on XBL woulda bin sweet :DStevo_the_gamer

Indeed. I'd love a Perfect Dark revitalization.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Lemmings don't care about GoldenEye when they have their Halo. elektrixxx

be real.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Nintendo obviously doesn't wan the legacy of this game to be on anything other then Nintendo. Given that Goldeneye is a huge name that this game would obviously push 360 more then Wii its easy to see why they don't want it to happen from a business standpoint.

Blackbond

Goldeneye is one of the most revered games of all time. Nintendo in all likelyness doesn't want that game on anything other then a Nintendo platform. meaning it will only be remembered as a nintendo game.

And Banjo was almost equally as loved, yet they allowed those 2 games to be published. why those? hmm.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]Why is every one mad at nitnedo for not accepting the offer? Yes, it might seem like they would be losing out. But do you think it was just some spur for the moment decision they made just to hurt M$? They have teams of business strategists that would decide the best course of action for the company. If they felt that letting a upgraded version be released on XBLA would do more good for MS than it would for nintendo, it would be a logical choice for nintendo to refuse the releasesonicmj1

No.

As I said, this isn't a zero-sum game. Even if the decision also benefits Microsoft, it is better for Nintendo to make money than to not make money. Profits are more important than marketshare to a company and to its investors.

Perhaps it would be logical for Nintendo to negotiate for a better offer from Microsoft (because while they aren't losing here, they aren't getting as sweet a deal as Microsoft and Activision are), but to flat out refuse and then do nothing benefits no one, Nintendo included.

I think omgimba has pointed this out nicely but it serves to reinterate his points.

In the event Nintendo agrees to this deal, Goldeneye gets a ROM dump on the VC and gets an HD overall (along with the orginal version) on XBLM. LOTS of people played and enjoyed the hell of this game. For many, it was the start of great FPS games on consoles. Big market now for a remake right?

I'm going to make some conjecture here, (emphasis on CONJECTURE) many of these new found fans likely didn't stick it out with the Gamecube for varying reasons and moved to the next FPS phenom, Halo on Xbox or the juggernaut that was the PS2. Fewer still likely picked up the Wii given its lack of focus on graphics among other things. So, given the lackluster sales of hardcore audience games on the Wii, I think it's fair to say that there aren't too many Goldeneye vets gaming on a Wii. Most of them moved to the PS3 or 360. By virtue of these observances here, the sales potential for Goldeneye on the Wii is microscopic in comparison to the 360.

Big sales on the 360 would draw even more of these former Nintendo enthusiasts to the Xbox 360 platform and thus allow MS to further expand their market share by eating away at Nintendo's. MS reaps the bigger benefit of the deal, pure and simple. Obviously, that's a double whammy for Nintendo: give MS big sales while at the same time decreasing Nintendo's potential pool of customers for sales. The meager profits from the VC version wouldn't come close to covering the loss of customers.

Nintendo's decision at this time, makes good business sense.

And Banjo was almost equally as loved, yet they allowed those 2 games to be published. why those? hmm.

Dreams-Visions

You really can't compare Banjo to Goldeneye. Hell I can go out and ask someone if they know who Banjo is and they will look at me like huh? But if I said have you ever heard of Goldeneye on N64 even random chick in the dorm would know what the game was. Goldeneye was that big in the day. One of the biggest phenomeonms of that generation of gaming.

Nintendo in no way wants that game to be anything else other then a Nintendo game. For the people that say why don't they just do it because money benifits them. Hey why not just put Zelda OOT on PSN or XBLA. You get money right?

But Nintendo isn't going to do that because to them they probably believe its their game and theirs alone. Its obvious that they don't want to share.

Regardless of which this crap about Goldeneye should cease imo. Get Perfect Dark online on XBLA with smoother framerates please.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Phenom316"]Awww GoldenEye on XBL woulda bin sweet :DThe_Game21x

Indeed. I'd love a Perfect Dark revitalization.

Co-operative... and being able to play as the enemy while your buddy is on the other team in the storyline. :o

Hopefully GE will come soon or later...

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Phenom316"]Awww GoldenEye on XBL woulda bin sweet :DStevo_the_gamer

Indeed. I'd love a Perfect Dark revitalization.

Co-operative... and being able to play as the enemy while your buddy is on the other team in the storyline. :o

Ah yes, the infamous Counter-Operative mode. I loved that mode back in the day.

Honestly, if Microsoft could do it, I'd rather they try to revive that. Though Nintendo would likely try to screw Microsoft over there too...

Lemmings don't care about GoldenEye when they have their Halo. AvIdGaMeR444

But of course, being the greedy **** they are, Nintendo had to ruin it for everyone.

I cant help but wonder what game MS offered to be allowed to be published on VC. My thoughts is M$ offered up a crappy game in exchange for Goldeneye. So if you really think about it, its M$'s fault that noone has it right now.

Telling Nintendo to grow up because they refused to allow Goldeneye on XBLA is like telling M$ to grow up because they wont allow Gears of War to be published on the PS3.

EvilAshTwin

i nominate this for worst post of the year

to anyone defending nintendo: they are only hurt (us) the gamers in this deal, why defend them?Utensilman

[QUOTE="Utensilman"]to anyone defending nintendo: they are only hurt (us) the gamers in this deal, why defend them?V_Isle

Im not saying I dont disagree with this. The number 1 priority for major companies like M$ and Nintendo is the bottom dollar. Im not so naive to believe otherwise. However in this instance Nintendo would be the lesser of 2 evils. It was Microsoft's blind arrogance that ruined this for gamers, not Nintendo.

I cant help but wonder what game MS offered to be allowed to be published on VC. My thoughts is M$ offered up a crappy game in exchange for Goldeneye. So if you really think about it, its M$'s fault that noone has it right now.

Telling Nintendo to grow up because they refused to allow Goldeneye on XBLA is like telling M$ to grow up because they wont allow Gears of War to be published on the PS3.

EvilAshTwin

Omg.....

Please Nintendo, don't this to us. That remake looks like WIN.

I can understand why they did that. Through I still kinda angry that it probably won't come on VC.Wanderer5

do you think nintendo will let one of thier top selling n64 games go to the xbox arcade?metroidfan9956

[QUOTE="fbigent34"]if you really want goldeneye go bye n64 and goldeneye there you go.kage_53

If godeneye gets relased it wouldn't have online muitplayer from the start :roll:

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="fbigent34"]if you really want goldeneye go bye n64 and goldeneye there you go.fbigent34

If godeneye gets relased it wouldn't have online muitplayer from the start :roll:

Hopefully this problem will be sorted soon....I need my Goldeneye HD fix

In theory its two rich companies being stubborn, similar to what is happening with Itunes and Music companies

[QUOTE="fbigent34"]

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="fbigent34"]if you really want goldeneye go bye n64 and goldeneye there you go.HuusAsking

If godeneye gets relased it wouldn't have online muitplayer from the start :roll:

again and again it wouldn't of been a muiltplayer game. this why it didnt get relased and the fact that ms dosent want to pay competion money.

Hopefully this problem will be sorted soon....I need my Gldeneye HD fix

WWIAB

Put it this way. If you held the deed to a valuable house and knew it was worth more than the housing market would be willing to pay you for it, the prudent course would be to not sell since the house's value will still appreciate over time.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="fbigent34"]

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="fbigent34"]if you really want goldeneye go bye n64 and goldeneye there you go.fbigent34

If godeneye gets relased it wouldn't have online muitplayer from the start :roll:

again and again it wouldn't of been a muiltplayer game. this why it didnt get relased and the fact that ms dosent want to pay competion money.

Spin it all you want, but everyone knows the real reason for the stall, and it cannot be negotiated away: Virtual Console does not support networking.

O RLY? Note the second paragraph.

Spin it all you want, but everyone knows the real reason for the stall, and it cannot be negotiated away: Virtual Console does not support networking.

HuusAsking

Well there is one way around that. Nintendo could perhaps outsource the game to a third party, have the game dolled up a bit with improved graphics and online features and release it as a Wii Ware title, which, if I'm not mistaken, supports online networking.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

O RLY? Note the second paragraph.

Spin it all you want, but everyone knows the real reason for the stall, and it cannot be negotiated away: Virtual Console does not support networking.

The_Game21x

Well there is one way around that. Nintendo could perhaps outsource the game to a third party, have the game dolled up a bit with improved graphics and online features and release it as a Wii Ware title, which, if I'm not mistaken, supports online networking.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

O RLY? Note the second paragraph.

Spin it all you want, but everyone knows the real reason for the stall, and it cannot be negotiated away: Virtual Console does not support networking.

HuusAsking

Well there is one way around that. Nintendo could perhaps outsource the game to a third party, have the game dolled up a bit with improved graphics and online features and release it as a Wii Ware title, which, if I'm not mistaken, supports online networking.

Ah, I thought that might be a problem...

Oh well, there goes my hopes for a Goldeneye re-release. :(

Danm, if Goldeneye did appear on XBL I would make getting a 360 my main priority, that game was and still is near perfect in the multiplayer department, playing it online with friends and voice chat would be a dream come true.ONLYDOD

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Danm, if Goldeneye did appear on XBL I would make getting a 360 my main priority, that game was and still is near perfect in the multiplayer department, playing it online with friends and voice chat would be a dream come true.gunswordfist

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Lemmings don't care about GoldenEye when they have their Halo. V_Isle

But of course, being the greedy **** they are, Nintendo had to ruin it for everyone.

*slow clap*