So Microsoft claims there games will be 1080p 60fps

The reason why some are not (CoD and Ryse) is because they don't quite have the system optimized fully to allow more power for game developers. Supposedly there is a lot of power not used and they are going to unlock more of this power with driver updates and optimizing the Kinect OS to unlock that extra 10%.

Personally, I'm not to worried with IGN, eurogamer and now Gamespot proclaiming Ryse as having the best graphics of any next gen game.

What do you guys think, DC or is there some truth to this?

Barely any xbone and ps4 games are 1080p+60fps, better try next gen. Leave the superiority to PC.

lol That's a good one.

Sony speaks with action, Microsoft speaks with words.

They know you lemmings can't tell the difference from upscaling because you all have shit vision.

substitute "lemmings", with "most people" and you got a deal.

1080p is a helluva marketing ploy though.

Yeah, but the game will look like a PS2 game.

Microsoft will compete with the PS4 by locking res at 720p. The graphics will be mildly better than current-gen consoles.

Xbone is the wii of this gen.

Once they start offloading computations onto the cloud - as Turn 10 did with Forza 5, they'll be able to meet that.

Lemmings all have 720p HDTV, they never seen 1080p in person before. Cows and Hermits all have 1080p HDTv, so we can see the difference

Killzone MP sometimes not 60fps.

dont put yourself in the same group with the master race console peasant.

1080P at 120 frames in 4D right ?

Shoot for the sun !

@BattlefieldFan1: So you think the Xbox Ones graphics will regress? Now that Ryse is considered the best graphics of next gen games from IGN, Eurogamer and now Gamespot, I find it hard to believe they will look like PS2 games. Are you saying that out if anger for the Xbox One producing better graphics then the PS4 or do you actually believe that? Share your feelings cow. This is a safe place.

master race are people with high end gaming pc rigged. you dont have high end, you have low to mid end

damn straight 8)

Really?

Forza 5 is claimed to have 1080p/60 fps.

@ronvalencia: I know that. It's just some are not 1080p or 60fps or both. Obviously the Xbox One is a superior system. But curious if MS is just doing damage control over really a none issue or not.

Forza 5 is 1080p 60 FPS

I don't believe them. I call BS

There are a few 1080p games such as Forza on the Xbone. But think about it, its not the graphics that get effected, its the Quality, which doesn't matter, one because you wont notice it and 2 because the human eye can't bearlly tell the difference. So stop making stupid threads about 720p and 1080p.

lol if u think 10% is what it takes to get to 1080p/60fps ur not a tech person

Taking the safety route...

@stereointegrity: I did not say that, neither has MS. There was a late hardware change according to MS and the GPU needs a few drivers updates to unlock 100% of its power and that they are also altering the kinects OS to unlock the extra 10%.

Some are not? None are but what? 1 or two games? Xbone is a POS: 720p Edition. Its gonna be funny when in two years they'll be making games under 720p to handle new engines.

It is true, having the hardware isn't enough, if the software isn't good, it won't perform at it's best.

that may be true... Playing halo 2 from 2004-07 for 10+ hours every day, then going to halo 3 from 07-10 for 5+ hours everyday will do a number on your eyeballs

Troll, have you even bothered to look at Xbox One games, Ryse has the best graphics of any next gen game. Killzone and knack major flops and the only thing worth playing is an indie game.

wot is this nonensense

The only thing that matters is the final output. Ryse bar far is the best looking next gen game period and its native resolution is 900p

hard to believe when Forza is the only one doing it, and it seems that it's doing it with the cost of other graphical detail.

If they ever did get 1080p 60 FPS get ready for the jags and even more low res 2D objects then they have now.

There will be no 10% unlock,that part is reserve for the system snap features and Kinect,if you eliminate that 10% on what it will run.? It takes 10% in the first place because it requires heavy recources compute on Kinect is not done on a separate chip,but on the GPU it self.

And Ryse is all smoek and mirrors is a game very enclosed,with nothing to explore,is build like a fightin game,basically all is non interactive crap.

And last 10% will not make for a 720p to 1080p difference,if that could be achieve by only 10% imagine how much stronger the PS4 would be than the xbox one,is basically 40% stronger.

of course there will be games in 1080/60p, i mean come on this is a brand new console they want to support for the next 10 years...

This whole topic is based on the MS claim their games will be 1080P at 60FPS.

I never seen them claim that as that would be idiotic, do you have a source for this ??

That's why tons of feature on the PS4 are actually absent?

im going to say this again for the dummies 1080p through frame buffer + 1080p on display plane + TV at 1080p you wont be able to tell the difference not even pixel counting.

You'd have to be the world's biggest fanboy to not believe Xbox One will have native 1080P pretty soon. Launch games are sadly nothing to base a generation off of, just look at the insane leaps that this past generation took from 2005 until now. Just a world of difference. Hard to even play a game that's older than 5 years because of the graphics and such. Games will get better on both systems, and both will have awesome experiences.

Damage controlling before the system is even released..lmao

Again, is there a source for MS claiming this ??

Just so we're all on the same page, the only launch game that's 1080p/60 is Forza 5, right? Arcade games don't count because they are technically inferior with low textures and polygons.

I think Forza 5 is a big smokescreen.

From the videos I've seen, the cars are the only thing with legit 1080p textures.

It looks like the environments aren't even 3D rendered - they look like 2D background scrolls with just plastic trees and generic buildings lining the tracks for effect.

I think that's how they achieve "1080p native" resolution.

How can you see the difference with those cow bangs covering your cow eyes.

It will be how it always is. In a year or two people optimize and the graphic fidelity of launch titles are considered to be simply unacceptable. It's always been like this and will probably always be like this.

Shit, flame-bait thread. Give us a source or gtfo silly little lemming.

Im pretty sure the Wii U is the Wii of this gen, being about half as strong as either of the other consoles.

Xbox will eventually be 1080p with optimization, and I can't wait for that day because Sony fans will have nothing left to throw at Xbox gamers.

Oh and whats the best looking game on consoles right now? Ryse, an Xbox title. So much for it looking like a PS2 game.

Funny how MS say that when the X1 compared to the PS4 uses a now inferior RAM and a slower CPU/GPU. Only time will tell.

@bumsonfire: Please tell me you don't actually believe what you post

Microsoft strikes with their bs again

Anyone who thinks they will go from 720p and 30 fps to 1080p and 60 fps with the magical 10% and TEH OPTIMIZATION (tm) is seriously ignorant about hardware.