So, now maybe Forza 3 gets some deserved appreciation?

Just a thought. We have all been sitting around waiting for "the ultimate driver simulation" when one of the best games of that genre has already be out on the market for a year. Are any of you, who passed on Forza 3 all year, considering checking the game out now, especially those who are dissappointed with the new "driving simulator"?

im not dissapointed by GT5 in the slightest and there are other players who feel the same.

I love how so many new trolls are appearing out the woodwork for one games especially the lemmings who are probably out populating the people in the gt5 topic now its hard to actually have a discussion bout things in the game without some lemming logic stepping in the fray.

As i have said time and time again today both are excellent games,both have pro's and cons.

I doubt that people who wanted GT are going to look to Forza as GT does offer features that Forza doesn't, but I do think that people will appreciate Forza's visuals more and its overall feeling of polish since GT5 seems to have underdelivered in these areas.

Why is everybody talking about how great Forza is on the release date of GT5 :?

Some people are jumping the gun. The review isn't out yet :?

And GT5 is not disappointing at all. As a racing sim, GT5 is better then Forza 3.

GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT5Crystal-Rush

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

Why is everybody talking about how great Forza is on the release date of GT5 :?

AznKSor

Because it's System Wars and they want to rub it into the faces of the Playstation fanboys. It's how the forum works, I gather. I like GT5 and some of the things said are obvious hyperbole. The standard cars look fine, a lot of the tracks look great. The premium cars look amazing. There is a lot of features and go karts are amazingly fun. The only thing is would say badly about the game is that the shadows are blocky, you notice this quickly when the race starts and the camera moves around your car. I don't like the fact they didn't add interior view into standard cars either. It's not the second coming that people were hoping for but unlike others I never really hyped this game and I'm just enjoying a damn good racing game.

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT515strong

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

But alot of people think that those features in GT5 came at the expense of polish and some don't think that the features justify that.

That is only one perspective however.

Forza 3 is/was awesome. No game is going to change that.

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[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT5GreySeal9

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

But alot of people think that those features in GT5 came at the expense of polish and some don't think that the features justify that.

That is only one perspective however.

dude.. your sig is so awesome

It's already appreciated pretty well here.

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT515strong

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

ohthemanatee

But alot of people think that those features in GT5 came at the expense of polish and some don't think that the features justify that.

That is only one perspective however.

dude.. your sig is so awesome

Thanks. 8)

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

But alot of people think that those features in GT5 came at the expense of polish and some don't think that the features justify that.

That is only one perspective however.

GreySeal9

dude.. your sig is so awesome

Thanks. 8)

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT515strong

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

dude.. your sig is so awesome

racing1750

Thanks. 8)

Yeah, I thought it was pretty hilarious. It was pain to resize it though.

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Thanks. 8)

GreySeal9

Yeah, I thought it was pretty hilarious. It was pain to resize it though.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Never looked at your sig, but now that I have, awesometacular is my rating :Pracing1750

Yeah, I thought it was pretty hilarious. It was pain to resize it though.

My sig and avi are starting to need a update. I'm useless at making sigs though hehe!

racing1750

Nonsense! Top Gear never grows old! :o

Oh no, just because GT5's review scores are lower than Forza's (for now, at least) doesn't mean Forza 3 is finally going to get some attention. Hardcore and Casual GT fans alike are all going to line up and buy GT5 and completely ignore Forza 3, no matter how good Forza 3 is.

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty hilarious. It was pain to resize it though.

ohthemanatee

disagree. forza can never be on the same level as gran turismo. gt5 is the best racing game to date imho

[QUOTE="racing1750"]

My sig and avi are starting to need a update. I'm useless at making sigs though hehe!

psn8214

Nonsense! Top Gear never grows old! :o

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT5GreySeal9

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

But alot of people think that those features in GT5 came at the expense of polish and some don't think that the features justify that.

That is only one perspective however.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Looks good mate ;) My sig and avi are started to need a update. I'm useless and making sigs though hehe!racing1750

Adding your username to a still picture is easy, you can even do it with MS paint

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

JohnF111

But alot of people think that those features in GT5 came at the expense of polish and some don't think that the features justify that.

That is only one perspective however.

actually no, some reviews have criticized a lack of polish, I think IGN was one of them

Some people are jumping the gun. The review isn't out yet :?

And GT5 is not disappointing at all. As a racing sim, GT5 is better then Forza 3.

dream431ca

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]nah, everyone loves top gear even people who aren't into cars love top gear

ohthemanatee

Adding your username to a still picture is easy, you can even do it with MS paint

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]GT5 was in the oven for too long. It definitely feels dated. Sorry to say but Forza 3 is a lot more polished even though it came out a year before GT5Crystal-Rush

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

You are kidding right? I got the game today and after playing it for a while it seemed that the driving physics is what PD nailed in GT5 more than any other racing game (on consoles at least since I never tried PC simulation games) but I agree the game feels unpolished in certain parts.

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Forza does not have half the features GT5 has. All aboard the GT5 hate train.

Kashiwaba

You are kidding right? I got the game today and after playing it for a while it seemed that the driving physics is what PD nailed in GT5 more than any other racing game (on consoles at least since I never tried PC simulation games) but I agree the game feels unpolished in certain parts.

Hey, i never said i hated GT5.

But, just having played about 1 hour in the arcade mode, i have to ask, " why cant a car that weighs over 1000 lbs go through a flimsy plastic fence instead of bouncing off of it like it was a brick wall" ?

It is this kind of "detail" that really drags down any believability in the game. The 2-D trees and people dont help much either. The graphics appear quiet excellent in the presentation while you are moving, though. It just seems like this is a old PS2 game with Hi Rez coat of paint.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]I don't hate GT5, i have the game and have played quite a bit of it. It may have a lot of features but because of that other areas lack quality. The most important part being physics. They should have cut the 1000 cars to 500 so they can focus on making each and every car perfect. Parts of the game also feel unfinished because there are just too many features. When i'm playing GT5 it feels like i'm playing a game from 2 years ago.SaltyMeatballs

You are kidding right? I got the game today and after playing it for a while it seemed that the driving physics is what PD nailed in GT5 more than any other racing game (on consoles at least since I never tried PC simulation games) but I agree the game feels unpolished in certain parts.

Hey, i never said i hated GT5.

But, just having played about 1 hour in the arcade mode, i have to ask, " why cant a car that weighs over 1000 lbs go through a flimsy plastic fence instead of bouncing off of it like it was a brick wall" ?

It is this kind of "detail" that really drags down any believability in the game. The 2-D trees and people dont help much either. The graphics appear quiet excellent in the presentation while you are moving, though. It just seems like this is a old PS2 game with Hi Rez coat of paint.

Videodogg

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

You are kidding right? I got the game today and after playing it for a while it seemed that the driving physics is what PD nailed in GT5 more than any other racing game (on consoles at least since I never tried PC simulation games) but I agree the game feels unpolished in certain parts.

racing1750

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Worst game menu I have seen in a while, from what I saw on GS's Now Playing.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Hey, i never said i hated GT5.

But, just having played about 1 hour in the arcade mode, i have to ask, " why cant a car that weighs over 1000 lbs go through a flimsy plastic fence instead of bouncing off of it like it was a brick wall" ?

It is this kind of "detail" that really drags down any believability in the game. The 2-D trees and people dont help much either. The graphics appear quiet excellent in the presentation while you are moving, though. It just seems like this is a old PS2 game with Hi Rez coat of paint.

racing1750

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] I like my TG sig, but I would like my username in there. My avatar is when the stig took of his helmet. But I would like another Stig icon. It's a pain finding a good sized one thoughracing1750

Adding your username to a still picture is easy, you can even do it with MS paint

Sorry, I'm more of a 3d guy, not into 2d design, but I just threw your in name into the image.

I tried to make the name perspective match the road perspective, but it was too distorted.

If you have some specific ideas on what you would like for a sig, or specific images just PM me and I'll make it.

^ nice one mate. I was thinking of a less dark tone, and faded into the background. It's hard when you've got three men taking up the whole pic. Maybe the name should go above Richards head at top left :) If you could do me one like that, then I'd really appreciate it :)racing1750

Sounds easy enough. I gotta run to the store real quick, but I should have that to you shortly.

I doubt that people who wanted GT are going to look to Forza as GT does offer features that Forza doesn't, but I do think that people will appreciate Forza's visuals more and its overall feeling of polish since GT5 seems to have underdelivered in these areas.

GreySeal9

[QUOTE="racing1750"]^ nice one mate. I was thinking of a less dark tone, and faded into the background. It's hard when you've got three men taking up the whole pic. Maybe the name should go above Richards head at top left :) If you could do me one like that, then I'd really appreciate it :)sandbox3d

Sounds easy enough. I gotta run to the store real quick, but I should have that to you shortly.

Forza 3 is what Forza 2 should have already been. Maybe GT5 did dissapoint a little (considering the development time and hype), but I still see Forza just as a solid GT copy. After all, look at what the next Forza will be - a Kinect game. Face it, the Forza team knows who's the King and that they can't compete directly with GT anymore. Even Xombies know GT is the better game they just don't want to say it. But I will say that Forza has better track detail. 360's memory subsystem is just better.

Forza 3 is what Forza 2 should have already been. Maybe GT5 did dissapoint a little (considering the development time and hype), but I still see Forza just as a solid GT copy. After all, look at what the next Forza will be - a Kinect game. Face it, the Forza team knows who's the King and that they can't compete directly with GT anymore. Even Xombies know GT is the better game they just don't want to say it. But I will say that Forza has better track detail. 360's memory subsystem is just better.

nameless12345

and Forza has been outscoring GT since inception, if you prefer GT that's fine, but GT hasn't been king for a decade now

im not dissapointed by GT5 in the slightest and there are other players who feel the same.

I love how so many new trolls are appearing out the woodwork for one games especially the lemmings who are probably out populating the people in the gt5 topic now its hard to actually have a discussion bout things in the game without some lemming logic stepping in the fray.

As i have said time and time again today both are excellent games,both have pro's and cons.

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Forza 3 is what Forza 2 should have already been. Maybe GT5 did dissapoint a little (considering the development time and hype), but I still see Forza just as a solid GT copy. After all, look at what the next Forza will be - a Kinect game. Face it, the Forza team knows who's the King and that they can't compete directly with GT anymore. Even Xombies know GT is the better game they just don't want to say it. But I will say that Forza has better track detail. 360's memory subsystem is just better.

ohthemanatee

and Forza has been outscoring GT since inception, if you prefer GT that's fine, but GT hasn't been king for a decade now

I don't really consider GameSpot's scores as a "de facto" measure of a game's (or series') overall quality ;)

Infact I will argue about Metacritic general scores being of any real revelance of showing a game's quality too.

It's just mass opinion by some people who call themselves "game critics".

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Forza 3 is what Forza 2 should have already been. Maybe GT5 did dissapoint a little (considering the development time and hype), but I still see Forza just as a solid GT copy. After all, look at what the next Forza will be - a Kinect game. Face it, the Forza team knows who's the King and that they can't compete directly with GT anymore. Even Xombies know GT is the better game they just don't want to say it. But I will say that Forza has better track detail. 360's memory subsystem is just better.

nameless12345

and Forza has been outscoring GT since inception, if you prefer GT that's fine, but GT hasn't been king for a decade now

I don't really consider GameSpot's scores as a "de facto" measure of a game's (or series') overall quality ;)

Infact I will argue about Metacritic general scores being of any real revelance of showing a game's quality too.

It's just mass opinion by some people who call themselves "game critics".

my point still stands though