So now that its the end of the console cycle, how many Xboys feel ripped off?

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#1 om28v
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So the 360 came out in 2005. Online costs $50. So in total, many of you spent $450 EXTRA just to game online. How does it feel that you could have used that $450 to put toward something else, like maybe the Kinectbox 720?
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Got my 360 in 2007 for 400 euros. Came with 3 games and 2 controllers. Live cost me another 200 or so for 5 years. Overall, it's been great. 360 has had the best games this gen, some of the best exclusives in Halo/Gears/Forza, lotsa crazy XBLA games and PC games, the best multiplats, the best controller, the best online, no silly sh!t like friend codes/forced motion controls/mandatory installs/20 minute updates that the other consoles had. I have all three of the 7th gen consoles and 360 is by far my favourite :D
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#3 StormyJoe
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I have had my 360 since launch, and I couldn't have been happier. I can acknowledge that the PS3 is a good console - but I just prefer the games an online experience of the 360.

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#4 Chutebox
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It's sad when this type of thread seems original...

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#5 RR360DD
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Ripped off? I got the best library this gen, the best online service this gen, the best controller this gen. Nope, feeling pretty satisfied with my 360.
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#6 LegatoSkyheart
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The Xbox 360 is a pretty cool console.

Only thing bad about it is to Pay to Use Basic Online Features.

It was cool at first, Online for Consoles? Sick!

That is until the other systems got it and it was free and it was the same basic service.

Really now, Xbox Live is such a rip off.

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Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

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#8 arfy2
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I have had my 360 since launch, and I couldn't have been happier. I can acknowledge that the PS3 is a good console - but I just prefer the games and online experience of the 360.

 

StormyJoe

 

Exactly my words also. I prefer the overall experience of the 360. Also I love Halo and Gears

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#9 kuraimen
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Only the smart ones.
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#10 Clock-w0rk
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Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

timbers_WSU

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#11 Murderstyle75
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Ripped off? I got the best library this gen, the best online service this gen, the best controller this gen. Nope, feeling pretty satisfied with my 360. RR360DD
So you are enjoying Nike+ Kinect Training? Or is it Wii umm I mean Kinect Sports.
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#12 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

Clock-w0rk

gotta remember. The 360 had the better multiplats for mostly this generation. It also got a lot of Multiplats first during the first half.

360 was the go to console of this gen.

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#13 freedomfreak
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Xboys sounds naughty.
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#14 Michael0134567
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Xbox 360 is definitely one of the better consoles.

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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

Clock-w0rk

Mad? Its better than the PS3, Dreamcast, Gamecube, Original XBOX, and the 16 bit consoles. The N64 was the only console I enjoyed more. Don't like my opinion then that is your problem.
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#16 om28v
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I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for.
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#17 ShadowDeathX
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Best console this gen until 2010 hit. I've barely used the thing since 2010. So sad.
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Ripped off? I got the best library this gen, the best online service this gen, the best controller this gen. Nope, feeling pretty satisfied with my 360. Murderstyle75
So you are enjoying Nike+ Kinect Training? Or is it Wii umm I mean Kinect Sports.

A lot more than I enjoyed Sports Champions LOL
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#19 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

Clock-w0rk

Extremely low standards confirmed.
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#20 kuraimen
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I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for. om28v
Stockholm syndrome.
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#21 Ly_the_Fairy
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I think I've spent more money playing a small handful of PC games online this gen than someone who has paid for Live since it began in 2002.

With that said 360 was the best console this gen.

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#22 yellosnolvr
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almost got my money's worth i guess. i stopped playing it in 07 lmao
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#23 LegatoSkyheart
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I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for. om28v

back then it was probably the best service.

Now with PSN being better than it was back before 2009 (before Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and Modern Warfare 2 hit) Xbox Live just gradually went down hill.

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#24 locopatho
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The Xbox 360 is a pretty cool console.

Only thing bad about it is to Pay to Use Basic Online Features.

It was cool at first, Online for Consoles? Sick!

That is until the other systems got it and it was free and it was the same basic service.

Really now, Xbox Live is such a rip off.

LegatoSkyheart
The thing is, it was fine for last gen because N and Sony were so far behind. LIVE's awesomeness forced them to vastly improve. I won't be paying for Live next gen but was glad to this gen :)
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#25 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

The Xbox 360 is a pretty cool console.

Only thing bad about it is to Pay to Use Basic Online Features.

It was cool at first, Online for Consoles? Sick!

That is until the other systems got it and it was free and it was the same basic service.

Really now, Xbox Live is such a rip off.

locopatho

The thing is, it was fine for last gen because N and Sony were so far behind. LIVE's awesomeness forced them to vastly improve. I won't be paying for Live next gen but was glad to this gen :)

See it was a good system till 2009 hit when Sony got a lot of Online titles and wised up.

Xbox Live was pretty good. The Halo 3 golden age was a good place to hop on board, but when I got on it was a ghost town there.

But I had a blast playing Reach, Gears 2, Gears 3, and other online titles.

But at the end of April I won't be paying for it anymore.

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#26 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

The Xbox 360 is a pretty cool console.

Only thing bad about it is to Pay to Use Basic Online Features.

It was cool at first, Online for Consoles? Sick!

That is until the other systems got it and it was free and it was the same basic service.

Really now, Xbox Live is such a rip off.

LegatoSkyheart

The thing is, it was fine for last gen because N and Sony were so far behind. LIVE's awesomeness forced them to vastly improve. I won't be paying for Live next gen but was glad to this gen :)

See it was a good system till 2009 hit when Sony got a lot of Online titles and wised up.

Xbox Live was pretty good. The Halo 3 golden age was a good place to hop on board, but when I got on it was a ghost town there.

But I had a blast playing Reach, Gears 2, Gears 3, and other online titles.

But at the end of April I won't be paying for it anymore.

End of May for me. PS3 got better but I still just can't handle the 20 minute updates. Hoping PS4 won't suffer from them.
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#27 j_assassin
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I felt ripped off back in 07 with i bought the ps3, it didnt have any games so I nearly traded it for the 360 if it wasnt for the rrod, now im glad i stick with a ps3 and was able to experience demons souls, mgs4, valkyria chronicles, infamous, uncharted, lbp, ni no kuni, etc..
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#28 olart4618
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I have a job so money is not a problem, I enjoy every minute with my 360 like I did with all my consoles sinces the nes

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#29 om28v
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I felt ripped off back in 07 with i bought the ps3, it didnt have any games so I nearly traded it for the 360 if it wasnt for the rrod, now im glad i stick with a ps3 and was able to experience demons souls, mgs4, valkyria chronicles, infamous, uncharted, lbp, ni no kuni, etc..j_assassin
Yup! Demon's Souls was the highlight for me too. I remember playing it every morning during the Christmas holidays. Mind you, I was 20 years old at the time. Felt great to feel like a little kid again.
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#30 SolidSnake35
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Having to pay for online is such a shambles now that multiplayer is a major part of many games.
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#31 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="om28v"]I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for. kuraimen
Stockholm syndrome.

:lol: So true. Lemmings seem to like getting milked by M$. I don't know how anybody can defend an obvious scam like this. Sane lemmings (if there is such a thing) are probably mad about getting ripped off but won't admit it or they just living in denial about it. $450 is a lot of money that can be used for doing other things. You could buy games or upgrade your PC with a beefy graphics card for that kind of money.
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#32 humpmasterflex
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

Clock-w0rk

 

LMAO

 

timbers is confirmed to be 15 yrs of age or younger. LOL

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#34 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Best console I have ever owned and it isn't even close.

Clock-w0rk

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#35 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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Not really. I enjoyed the 360. Best controller, and better than DS3, imo. But XBLG is still a ripoff. IMO. Money is no problem, it's the principle. I hardly play online, so what's the point? PSN offers it for free and when I do go online for MP on PSN, it's really for sh!ts and giggles.

Offline, 360 is a great console, though. There's countless of Multiplat games for cheap. Plus I like the selection of downloadable games on XBL.

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#36 om28v
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I think a lot of the Xbox owners here that have Live dont even pay for the service themselves. Once they get older and have to pay for school, textbooks, cell phone bill, etc., paying for Xbox Live is a joke when you can just get close to the same service on PSN for free.
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#37 Harisemo
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Bought Xbox 360 in Jan 2006, since then I have gone through many 360s but have no regrets at all.

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Believe it or not, good subscribers only make up about 25 to 30% of consoles sold. This is why they are charging for apps. Because most gamers don't care about multiplayer to begin with.
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#39 locopatho
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="om28v"]I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for. I_can_haz
Stockholm syndrome.

:lol: So true. Lemmings seem to like getting milked by M$. I don't know how anybody can defend an obvious scam like this. Sane lemmings (if there is such a thing) are probably mad about getting ripped off but won't admit it or they just living in denial about it. $450 is a lot of money that can be used for doing other things. You could buy games or upgrade your PC with a beefy graphics card for that kind of money.

Less then a weeks wages over the course of 8 years? Cows are so poor.
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#40 Yusuke420
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Now that PSN and playstation Plus has improved so drastically in the last 3 or four years (home excluded as it is terrible) that is has made me reconsider it a bit. If I had to do it again though I would just have both services. 

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#41 Ghost120x
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I have a 360 and only payed for live for about 9 months total just to play gears of war. Console online multiplayer sucks because the communites die within weeks, so I never payed until knew i was going to be gaming onlline for a while and that the game was fairly populated. I bought a 3 month card every time I bought a new gears of war game (except judgment, didn't buy) and I got my moneys worth. 

So as long as people feel or believe that they got what they payed for  they are not going to say they feel ripped off, especially on SW (too many ego's at stake.

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#42 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="om28v"]I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for. I_can_haz
Stockholm syndrome.

$450 is a lot of money

LOL get a job

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#43 CaptainGamespot
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So the 360 came out in 2005. Online costs $50. So in total, many of you spent $450 EXTRA just to game online. How does it feel that you could have used that $450 to put toward something else, like maybe the Kinectbox 720? om28v

online did cost $50, it changed to $60 years ago tho.

inb4 people cite deals/discounts. anything sold at retail u can get discounts, duh.

as far as online costs, i knew going in that i would end up buying a wii & ps3 with online costs. m$ smart. they got many like me to forgo buying a wii or ps3, and fund xbox live fees.

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I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

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#45 locopatho
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I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

-Patrick_92-
Here in 2013 with modern PSN and WiiU it's pretty pointless to pay for it. For most of the gen, with garbage Wii and creaky as hell PS3 online, it was very worth it.
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#46 RR360DD
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I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

-Patrick_92-

Bro it goes both ways. You can't understand why some people defend XBL fees. I can't understand why some people continue to ignore that XBL still offers more.

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#47 LegatoSkyheart
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lol at the people saying "I have job so I can afford it."

Well I have a job too. one that pays weekly.

and I still think paying $10 a month, $30 for 3 months and $60 for a Year so you could use Basic Online Features for your Xbox 360 is lame and pathetic.

You could be buying groceries with that money, or games from Steam or just new Games in General.

Xbox Live is a thing of the past. Deal with it.

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[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

locopatho

Here in 2013 with modern PSN and WiiU it's pretty pointless to pay for it. For most of the gen, with garbage Wii and creaky as hell PS3 online, it was very worth it.

In the beginning of the gen, yeah XBL was pretty appealing in comparison to PSN.  That changed (at least for me) in 2008 when the 2.40 update came out and we could finally use the XMB in game, there was no real benefit to paying for XBL after that.  Then PS+ came out and made it even more evident that XBL was a rip-off. 


And it's not like cross game chat is worth the $60 a year, Vita does it for free.

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#49 -Patrick_92-
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[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

RR360DD

Bro it goes both ways. You can't understand why some people defend XBL fees. I can't understand why some people continue to ignore that XBL still offers more.

What exactly does XBL offer more than PSN? I can't think of anything other than cross game chat (Vita does it for free), voice messages, and beacons (a feature that seems pretty useless to me).

 

 

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#50 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

-Patrick_92-

Here in 2013 with modern PSN and WiiU it's pretty pointless to pay for it. For most of the gen, with garbage Wii and creaky as hell PS3 online, it was very worth it.

In the beginning of the gen, yeah XBL was pretty appealing in comparison to PSN.  That changed (at least for me) in 2008 when the 2.40 update came out and we could finally use the XMB in game, there was no real benefit to paying for XBL after that.  Then PS+ came out and made it even more evident that XBL was a rip-off. 


And it's not like cross game chat is worth the $60 a year, Vita does it for free.

The main thing for me is avoiding 20 minute installs and updates. That sh!t drives me mental. Also much prefer 360 controller for everything except fighters. So to me it's still worth it. If I can get 30 second updates on PS4, I won't be paying for Live again.