So now that VR is offically coming to the Wii..IS THIS THE END OF SONY AND MS ??

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#101 Spider-Jones
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[QUOTE="wemhim"]If this is done more simple, it could create some awesome FPS games, aim the gun AND the camera separately. wemhim

Well it works amazingly well with the Wiimote. The gameplay possibilities really are endless.

It'd be cool to move with analog, aim with the Wii mote, then move the camera around in third person games, and up down left right in first person games, since camera moving has been quite difficult for awhile. I'd love to have a game where your head is like a 3rd analog stick, your left analog stick is just that, the left analog, and you have a pointer for extra aiming, it's like a 360 or PS3 FPS with an added pointer, FUN. Up till now, the FPS games weren't too great.

Amazing gameplay possibiltities... every gamer should be excited about this. It really is ultimate immersion.
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#102 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]If this is done more simple, it could create some awesome FPS games, aim the gun AND the camera separately. Spider-Jones

Well it works amazingly well with the Wiimote. The gameplay possibilities really are endless.

It'd be cool to move with analog, aim with the Wii mote, then move the camera around in third person games, and up down left right in first person games, since camera moving has been quite difficult for awhile. I'd love to have a game where your head is like a 3rd analog stick, your left analog stick is just that, the left analog, and you have a pointer for extra aiming, it's like a 360 or PS3 FPS with an added pointer, FUN. Up till now, the FPS games weren't too great.

Amazing gameplay possibiltities... every gamer should be excited about this. It really is ultimate immersion.

I think if this is delivered through first party hardware and very simple like, this could lead to a big thing for next gen, the biggest issue with the Wiimote is the camera control, since it's not really a 3rd analog, but this WITH the pointer, PWNS a second analog in every way, the pointer alone is awesome, but analog has it's benefits, but this and the pointer beats it by lots.
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#103 Stabby2486
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You know what I give up just keep thinking that this has noting to do with processingposter

Motion sensing has nothing to do with hardware power. Look at your Wii-mote, on the front end of it is a infrared light sensor, the sensor bar which comes with the Wii emits infrared lights, which is used as a reference point by the Wii-mote to tell how far it is from the sensor bar and how high or low it is. It detects tilt by it self and has a laser pointer. Of course if move the infrared sensor out of sight of the sensor bar it can't detect where it is, this could be fixed by adding adjustable sensitivity so that you could make pointing the Wii-mote 10 degrees left will make it turn 20 degrees left, this could be adjusted until you're comfortable with it, and TrackIR (which is a headtracking device for PC) supporting games have done this before.

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#104 Aidenfury19
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ONLY WITH MODS, OR ACCESSORIES, WII DOESN'T NEED THIS.

nintendo-4life

Yes it does.

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#105 blitzcloud
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xtm-Uvtt8Zk

TC am fail.
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#106 wemhim
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[QUOTE="poster"]You know what I give up just keep thinking that this has noting to do with processingStabby2486

Motion sensing has nothing to do with hardware power. Look at your Wii-mote, on the front end of it is a infrared light sensor, the sensor bar which comes with the Wii emits infrared lights, which is used as a reference point by the Wii-mote to tell how far it is from the sensor bar and how high or low it is. It detects tilt by it self and has a laser pointer. Of course if move the infrared sensor out of sight of the sensor bar it can't detect where it is, this could be fixed by adding adjustable sensitivity so that you could make pointing the Wii-mote 10 degrees left will make it turn 20 degrees left, this could be adjusted until you're comfortable with it, and TrackIR (which is a headtracking device for PC) supporting games have done this before.

TrackIR pwns all.
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#107 Sgt_Crow
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Saw that video a while ago.
Looks amazingly fun.

All lazy people and fanboys; your loss. ;)

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#108 jeffwulf
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[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="Spider-Jones"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="Spider-Jones"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="CossackNoodle"]I hope some has pointed out PS EYE CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING! there is a vid somewhere showing the exact thing he just clips on a lense and it tracks the two points on his glasses so SONY can do it with pseyeMasterC5

Exactly it is no big freaking deal

You people make me laugh... this is nothing like eyetoy.

It's really quite amazing. Watch the demo video :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I watched it nothing mindblowing.

:) MS and Sony are screwed. Deep down you know it ;)

No just no because with the wiis ram you wont be able ti make much more then puzzle games that use this, you cant make a full fpos taking advantage of this with the wiis ram and processing power no freaking way!

You guys and your graphics :lol:

Look at the demo, it only used simply geometry yet still looked awesome as hell, the gameplay possibilities are endless;)

Its not about graphics you fool it is simply th amount of ram it wqoul take to process it in a fool game I am not talking about the graphics, in motion do you now how much power this would take to pull off with tons of stuff happening on screen? to say the wii could easily pull that off is laughable, the beat you can get out of this is going to be puzzle games most likely sad but true.

It doesnt require any additional graphic power. You have no idea what your taleking about. The head tracking display and the capabilities of the video output have absolutley nothing to do with eachother. Your embarassing yourself.

Wrong you have been talking about how it could be implemented into genres like fps, do you have any idea how much ram would be required to get this to work with a ton of stuff movin on screen like in an FPS this has nothing to do with graphjics but processing power your the one that is looking like a fool here.

I know how much RAM would be required for this! The exact same ammount as pushing a directional button on a Control pad! All this does is change the camera location, like a 3d right analog stick in a first person shooter. It would require no RAM to implement, and only a few more CPU cycles to determine the position with the addition of another dimension.

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#109 animation_imp
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xtm-Uvtt8Zk

TC am fail.blitzcloud

I was just going to post this.

The tech is as easy to use on the ps3

All you need is the usb camera and a infra red filter.

Then you put two infrared leds on some glasses and voila.

The Wii works the same, but you need one or two extra wii-motes.

Also this tech only works for the person wearing the glasses.

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#110 SecretPolice
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Yeah, I remember buying the SEGA 3D glasses, I think for Master System.

Took them back the next day !

VR on Wii so the TC thinks the end is near for MS :lol:

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#111 Masterfubu
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You're gonna get flamed for saying the console war is over, but yeah, this is serious potential and may cause further trouble for Sony and MS.Erebyssial

wow this looks nice btw on yer sig its that the real disaster doc box art?

VRwill b nice

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#112 deactivated-598fc45371265
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AH! Sony an Microsoft are teh doomzed!!!!!
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#113 DireToad
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Keep reaching for that dream!

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#114 SecretPolice
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Keep reaching for that dream!

DireToad

:lol: happy I never made the purchase though it was close.

I wonder if this new stab at VR will yield the usual plethora of games supporting such a gimmicky device ! :twisted:

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#115 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]You're gonna get flamed for saying the console war is over, but yeah, this is serious potential and may cause further trouble for Sony and MS.Masterfubu

wow this looks nice btw on yer sig its that the real disaster doc box art?

VRwill b nice

Nah, just fan art. I think it looks great though.

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#116 Skunk_Mullet
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am i the only person to imagine playing re:uc type games with head tracking? this combined with pointer definitely has potential.
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#117 sexy_chimp
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It's funny watching the fanboys damage control and they obviously know nothing about it.
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#118 m_machine024
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Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.
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Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.m_machine024
.. i'm sorry but i don't see how this is not a big feature, not in bloom blox but as a whole.
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#120 sexy_chimp
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Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.m_machine024

It's not a big deal in Boom Blox but imagine playing an FPS with it? (And I hope Valve uses this idea since they want to develop something for the Wii)

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#121 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.nintendo-4life
.. i'm sorry but i don't see how this is not a big feature, not in bloom blox but as a whole.

Well... it's just my overall feeling about the whole thing. I mean... it's all visuals really. Maybe my post felt that I don't like the thing but it's just that the TC is blowing this way out of proportion. End of Sony and MS? Please... it's mostly on that I said it's no big deal... for them. But it's a very great feature indeed... just let's keep it real.
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#122 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.sexy_chimp

It's not a big deal in Boom Blox but imagine playing an FPS with it? (And I hope Valve uses this idea since they want to develop something for the Wii)

The question is how many devs will use this idea? Like max 5% of Wii owners will try this. Won't be worth the time for most of the devs. Yeah would be cool and all but I just being realistic. Don't expect this to become standard or something.
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#123 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="m_machine024"]Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.m_machine024

It's not a big deal in Boom Blox but imagine playing an FPS with it? (And I hope Valve uses this idea since they want to develop something for the Wii)

The question is how many devs will use this idea? Like max 5% of Wii owners will try this. Won't be worth the time for most of the devs. Yeah would be cool and all but I just being realistic. Don't expect this to become standard or something.

It's sales depend on the game using it.

Of course if the game has no hype or advertising (Which Boom Blox does't have) it won't sell that well. But if its a huge blockbuster game with tons of hype and advertising it will sell well.

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#124 LINKloco
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It's cute. That's all I'm giving it right now.
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.m_machine024
.. i'm sorry but i don't see how this is not a big feature, not in bloom blox but as a whole.

Well... it's just my overall feeling about the whole thing. I mean... it's all visuals really. Maybe my post felt that I don't like the thing but it's just that the TC is blowing this way out of proportion. End of Sony and MS? Please... it's mostly on that I said it's no big deal... for them. But it's a very great feature indeed... just let's keep it real.

oh you meant about THAT comment, well yeah of course he is overdoing it bit but this is the SW way you know, i mean everythin here equals death, one good month of sony = death of MS, release of any major exclusive = death of all other companies, etc. it's never ending .but the feature itself can be a killer if put to good use, most people just think of FPS which i find quite disappointing really, what about point and click games? where you much check every nook and crany.. LITRALLY this time, or puzzle games like bloom blox where they can truly be 3D for the first time, or horror titles like FF4, it's endless really.
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#126 SapSacPrime
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It is a start but until Nintendo themselves actually start using this and release an add on so I dont have to rig something myself it really isn't that impressive. It has great potential though.
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#127 dru26
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[QUOTE="DireToad"]

Keep reaching for that dream!

SecretPolice

:lol: happy I never made the purchase though it was close.

I wonder if this new stab at VR will yield the usual plethora of games supporting such a gimmicky device ! :twisted:

That stupid thing actually made me throw up.

I really wish Nintendo would focus on HD and stop with this gimmicky crap already.

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#128 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="m_machine024"]Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.sexy_chimp

It's not a big deal in Boom Blox but imagine playing an FPS with it? (And I hope Valve uses this idea since they want to develop something for the Wii)

The question is how many devs will use this idea? Like max 5% of Wii owners will try this. Won't be worth the time for most of the devs. Yeah would be cool and all but I just being realistic. Don't expect this to become standard or something.

It's sales depend on the game using it.

Of course if the game has no hype or advertising (Which Boom Blox does't have) it won't sell that well. But if its a huge blockbuster game with tons of hype and advertising it will sell well.

You have a point. I imagine that it was used in a game like Galaxy, it would have shown more popular. But at least Nintendo or some gaming company should sale thoses IR glasses. I don't see people making thoses by themselves or searching info to where they can buy them. I mean make them easily available for purchase at Wal-Mart or whatever.:P
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#129 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="DireToad"]

Keep reaching for that dream!

dru26

:lol: happy I never made the purchase though it was close.

I wonder if this new stab at VR will yield the usual plethora of games supporting such a gimmicky device ! :twisted:

That stupid thing actually made me throw up.

I really wish Nintendo would focus on HD and stop with this gimmicky crap already.

Yeah, I remember reading about many having that same outcome back when they were trying to sell them - Yuck !
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#130 daveg1
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the ps3 can do it also using the ps eye..

if its gonna be in games its going to be amazing for everyone..

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#131 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]Hmm it's no big deal really. It's not like it will help the gameplay or anything. Cool feature but you're overracting.nintendo-4life
.. i'm sorry but i don't see how this is not a big feature, not in bloom blox but as a whole.

Well... it's just my overall feeling about the whole thing. I mean... it's all visuals really. Maybe my post felt that I don't like the thing but it's just that the TC is blowing this way out of proportion. End of Sony and MS? Please... it's mostly on that I said it's no big deal... for them. But it's a very great feature indeed... just let's keep it real.

oh you meant about THAT comment, well yeah of course he is overdoing it bit but this is the SW way you know, i mean everythin here equals death, one good month of sony = death of MS, release of any major exclusive = death of all other companies, etc. it's never ending .but the feature itself can be a killer if put to good use, most people just think of FPS which i find quite disappointing really, what about point and click games? where you much check every nook and crany.. LITRALLY this time, or puzzle games like bloom blox where they can truly be 3D for the first time, or horror titles like FF4, it's endless really.

It does have potential... but I see it more limited than you think. Maybe I'm just not imaginative enough about it.

But wow using this in a horror game would be a great idea. o_O lol

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#132 Weslii
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As I posted in the Wii Forums:

I still think that the headtracking would make the game really slow-paced. But I'm happy if I'm proven wrong.

If anything, the Wii needs a great online FPS. It would be a big hit. I don't understand why developers haven't seen this yet. With the MOH:H2/MP3 controll scheme + a good online it could be as big as Halo. Especially with the userbase increasing each day.
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#133 Mutatedbloodelf
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I don't want a fracking Wii remote strapped around my head! My hair is too long and the strap will pull my hair and hurt me!
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#134 sexy_chimp
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You have a point. I imagine that it was used in a game like Galaxy, it would have shown more popular. But at least Nintendo or some gaming company should sale thoses IR glasses. I don't see people making thoses by themselves or searching info to where they can buy them. I mean make them easily available for purchase at Wal-Mart or whatever.:P m_machine024

Nintendo just needs to support it. That would gaurentee it becoming popular.

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#135 anasbouzid
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OMFG...this is awesome....if there was a FPS game that used these glasses to move the camera and I had enough money to get one of those tv googles....I would be in gaming heaven!!!!!
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#136 anasbouzid
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I don't want a fracking Wii remote strapped around my head! My hair is too long and the strap will pull my hair and hurt me!Mutatedbloodelf

dude watch the video...the wiimote isnt strapped around your head.....the guy takes a pair of regular sunglasses and put two IR things on them...one on each side....its not a bad idea at all.....alot less of a mind stretching concept an periferal than the wiifit board

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#137 black_awpN1
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Virtual Boy /Thread.
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#138 anasbouzid
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I just thought of something what if you used those glasses and tv goggles in addition to the wiimote and the wiifit board for an FPS game....that would be crazy.....like if you duck the guy on screen ducks...or you could lean around corners and shoot

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#139 anasbouzid
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Virtual Boy /Thread. black_awpN1

dude, do you even know what the virtual boy did...do you even know what it is?

This is two gens later with one of the systems main controller is motion sensing.....and the tech for vr is more available....

you laugh at this but what about those expensive computer VR mechanisms....they are worse than this IMO

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#140 Vulcan110
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Seriously as if things arent bad enough for Sony and MS, now they have to deal with the Wii having freakin VR? :lol:

Console war am over

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/21/gdc08-boom-blox-to-include-head-tracking-seriously/

Watch the demo in the link provided...

AMAZING :shock:

Spider-Jones

If im turing my freaken head the whole game how can i watch the tv? This is the exact opposite why i have not been a nintendo fan since the n64 b/c they think they have to be so different. JUST GIVE ME THE WAVEBIRD2 OMG.

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#141 Vulcan110
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I just thought of something what if you used those glasses and tv goggles in addition to the wiimote and the wiifit board for an FPS game....that would be crazy.....like if you duck the guy on screen ducks...or you could lean around corners and shoot

anasbouzid

You would enjoy that? I liek to relax and play while i smoke and have a beer! seriously if nintendo keeps up with this Wii mote and Goggle crap they will not even recognize there own failure if it comes.

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#142 river_rat3117
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well i dont think there would be any ownage or damage conltrol had every one known that THE PS3 CAN DO IT WITH THE EYECAM. they were able to do it once they found out the wii could, and worked on it right away. and no im not finding a link for you, if you care that much find it yourself
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#143 manicfoot
Member since 2006 • 2670 Posts

Nintendo tried to do VR long time ago.

They ended up failing. Hard.

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Virtual boy was almost 13 years ago. Technology has come a long way since then. Just because something failed once it doesn't mean it'll fail again. The virtual boy was some goggles on a stand. You don't need to put your head into goggles to get the effect of this new technology. This is a lot more practical than the virtual boy.

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#144 anasbouzid
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[QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

I just thought of something what if you used those glasses and tv goggles in addition to the wiimote and the wiifit board for an FPS game....that would be crazy.....like if you duck the guy on screen ducks...or you could lean around corners and shoot

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You would enjoy that? I liek to relax and play while i smoke and have a beer! seriously if nintendo keeps up with this Wii mote and Goggle crap they will not even recognize there own failure if it comes.

first off...nintendo did come up with this....second of it is graphix whores who are obsessed with VR and if this was somehow implemented in crysis.. as a control option than noone would talk #$% including probably you...

and yes having the option and finances to experience a game this way when I want would be ridiculously immersive and fun...

dude...i own a 360 and got bored of it because everything this gen really isnt new...ive seen and played it all...and the wii is in the end the same way...but at least they...in the back of their minds know it....

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#145 anasbouzid
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well i dont think there would be any ownage or damage conltrol had every one known that THE PS3 CAN DO IT WITH THE EYECAM. they were able to do it once they found out the wii could, and worked on it right away. and no im not finding a link for you, if you care that much find it yourselfriver_rat3117

yes we know this......but sony came up with some form of motion control....they dont apply it...and when they do...they dont apply it well....and when the news of the PS3 eyecam ability broke out...all I heard was cows praising it and putting it in sheeps faces....and nobody said "virtual boy /thread"

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#146 Vulcan110
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[QUOTE="Vulcan110"][QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

I just thought of something what if you used those glasses and tv goggles in addition to the wiimote and the wiifit board for an FPS game....that would be crazy.....like if you duck the guy on screen ducks...or you could lean around corners and shoot

anasbouzid

You would enjoy that? I liek to relax and play while i smoke and have a beer! seriously if nintendo keeps up with this Wii mote and Goggle crap they will not even recognize there own failure if it comes.

first off...nintendo did come up with this....second of it is graphix whores who are obsessed with VR and if this was somehow implemented in crysis.. as a control option than noone would talk #$% including probably you...

and yes having the option and finances to experience a game this way when I want would be ridiculously immersive and fun...

dude...i own a 360 and got bored of it because everything this gen really isnt new...ive seen and played it all...and the wii is in the end the same way...but at least they...in the back of their minds know it....

I dont think it wouldnt be interesting to try, im just saying the Wii mote and its conrtoler are the reason why i wont buy one, why cant i just have the Wavebird 2 for christ sake?

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#147 river_rat3117
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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"]well i dont think there would be any ownage or damage conltrol had every one known that THE PS3 CAN DO IT WITH THE EYECAM. they were able to do it once they found out the wii could, and worked on it right away. and no im not finding a link for you, if you care that much find it yourselfanasbouzid

yes we know this......but sony came up with some form of motion control....they dont apply it...and when they do...they dont apply it well....and when the news of the PS3 eyecam ability broke out...all I heard was cows praising it and putting it in sheeps faces....and nobody said "virtual boy /thread"

those people are just idiots. i am a cow and i dont see how this is so great. its to soon and i think should be used next gen. however currently i strongly think the wii should be the only on that uses it, since the wii points at what you look at, while on the ps3 you would be moving your head around while using a stationary controller and would most likely be very uncomfortable
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#148 Aidenfury19
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yes we know this......but sony came up with some form of motion control....they dont apply it...and when they do...they dont apply it well....and when the news of the PS3 eyecam ability broke out...all I heard was cows praising it and putting it in sheeps faces....and nobody said "virtual boy /thread"

anasbouzid

You know what I see when I read that? "Boohoo, we're so persecuted!" I consider anything like this underwhelming and frankly some of you trying to push this as the second coming annoy me.

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#149 WARxSnake
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TrackIR says "welcome to 2006"
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#150 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_AO0F5sLdVM

this video was posted a year ago on youtube btw