So... PSN.... No longer FREE then?

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#51 Darthmatt
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[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

dog_dirt: "Ok you can still just play on line for free..."

dog_dirt

LMAFO...OK so you don't have an argument then?

but the PSN is not just playing online. its the PLAYSTATION NETWORK. which is no longer free.

What are you talking about. PSN is currently still free to use. Playing online, buying games, and downloading demos will still be free. The only thing that will cost is premium stuff that you don't technically need to enjoy on line gaming. The service is going to be like Qore where they have videos some select demos and occasional game betas.

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#52 SwagSurf
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

aaronmullan

Free online > Not free online :D

don't go down to his level. let him do some research :P

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#53 shakmaster13
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So basically you pay for DLC? I thought you paid for that on top of the live fee in xbox live...

On PSN you can play online for free and download demos for free, that's all I really care about.

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#54 lundy86_4
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Yes it is still free. To play online. There is a free option, and the premium service is there for people who want more.

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#55 dream431ca
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I'd get it for the unlimited PS1 games downloads. That alone is worth it, or was that just a rumor?

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#56 12345678ew
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Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

MizFitAwesome
not really... did you see the feature list? first of all we just know the price is 20-70 bucks a year, it could easily still come out cheaper than live, and second, those features own live so hard. the argument before was always psn is almost as good and free, now it's free psn is almost as good and premium just plain owns live.
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#57 campzor
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dont care about party chat, if thats what you are gettting, i get to play online for free. also party chat kinda ruins the online game TBH.InfiniteBlak
its like you read my mind before you posted that.. the most IMPORTANT thing is that online play is FREE.... nothing else really matters.
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#58 foxhound_fox
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Unlike XBL, PSN is still offering all the major features for free, but giving MORE to people who want to pay. Unlike XBLG affording you something that should have been free to start and some other very useless, not worth paying for features.

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#60 gago-gago
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Yes and no. Playing online will remain free and that PSN version will be barebones. The Premium PSN version with the annual fee looks like it will have all sorts of features PSN users have always asked for.

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#61 mccoyca112
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If that thread made earlier was legit, more than half of that garbage was pointless. cross chat isnt going to sway everyone into paying. And as long as its still free to play, thats what many actually care about. After all, its a main selling point. Over 30 dollars for psn is ridiculous.

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#62 vdastampede
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I really hope this premium thing fails miserably so all gaming companies can see that online gaming should be free. Seems the only reason Sony is even charging is to attempt to nickel and dime suckers like the XBL players.

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#63 BuryMe
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Ok... But PS3 owners can still play online for free...

So essentially, Sony is doing what Microsoft should be. THey have made onlne play free, and are charging for the extra bells and whistles if people want to play for them...

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#64 Messiahbolical-
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Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

MizFitAwesome
Wow, you owned yourself to a ridiculous level. Paying more for less? If the rumors are true, anyone who chooses to subscribe to this new PSN service will be getting pretty much anything good XBL Gold has to offer and much more officially making PSN >>>>>> XBL. It works like this: XBL Gold > Free PSN PSN Premium >>> XBL Gold Free PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Silver Free PSN + Premium PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Gold + XBL Silver Why would this make PSN so much better than XBL? Well 2 simple reasons. Offers everything XBL Gold does and more for a comparable price(most likely) and offers almost the same thing as Gold does but FREE. So basically, lemmings get owned either way. If they try to compare XBL Gold to Premium PSN, they lose. If they try to compare XBL Silver to Free PSN, they lose HORRIBLY. And basically they can't say anything negative about PSN at all anymore or they'll just get destroyed.
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#65 AgentA-Mi6
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I will pay for the premium features at some point, when I feel like it, Im not being forced to pay in order to play my games online.
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#66 Lionheart08
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Yeah, I really see no ownage here. Playing for free while paying for extra benefits sounds like the type of subscription Microsoft should have.

Really the only way this could be a bad thing is if Sony shoots themselves in the foot again by overcharging.

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#67 SwagSurf
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

Messiahbolical-

Wow, you owned yourself to a ridiculous level. Paying more for less? If the rumors are true, anyone who chooses to subscribe to this new PSN service will be getting pretty much anything good XBL Gold has to offer and much more officially making PSN >>>>>> XBL. It works like this: XBL Gold > Free PSN PSN Premium >>> XBL Gold Free PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Silver Free PSN + Premium PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Gold + XBL Silver Why would this make PSN so much better than XBL? Well 2 simple reasons. Offers everything XBL Gold does and more for a comparable price(most likely) and offers almost the same thing as Gold does but FREE. So basically, lemmings get owned either way. If they try to compare XBL Gold to Premium PSN, they lose. If they try to compare XBL Silver to Free PSN, they lose HORRIBLY. And basically they can't say anything negative about PSN at all anymore or they'll just get destroyed.

No need to post these man. He is not going to respond back since so many people have owned him :lol:

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#68 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

warmaster670

Whats really funny, is lemming sare still paying to unlock multiplayer form games they bought, while cows, heck every other gamer still plays for free.

This is true. If you are an MP or Co-op Junkie. You do have to pay that allotted amount in order to play.
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

Animal-Mother

Whats really funny, is lemming sare still paying to unlock multiplayer form games they bought, while cows, heck every other gamer still plays for free.

This is true. If you are an MP or Co-op Junkie. You do have to pay that allotted amount in order to play.

Wait ... you're not banned anymore?

*big hug*

Welcome back buddy.

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#70 MizFitAwesome
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

Messiahbolical-

Wow, you owned yourself to a ridiculous level. Paying more for less? If the rumors are true, anyone who chooses to subscribe to this new PSN service will be getting pretty much anything good XBL Gold has to offer and much more officially making PSN >>>>>> XBL. It works like this: XBL Gold > Free PSN PSN Premium >>> XBL Gold Free PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Silver Free PSN + Premium PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Gold + XBL Silver Why would this make PSN so much better than XBL? Well 2 simple reasons. Offers everything XBL Gold does and more for a comparable price(most likely) and offers almost the same thing as Gold does but FREE. So basically, lemmings get owned either way. If they try to compare XBL Gold to Premium PSN, they lose. If they try to compare XBL Silver to Free PSN, they lose HORRIBLY. And basically they can't say anything negative about PSN at all anymore or they'll just get destroyed.

This is what you call being brainwashed by Sony. Beleiving that paying MORE money for even MORE useless features is some how going to make PSN better then XBL. Maybe you should read the supposed extra feature list before you jump on the bandwagon and act like it's a good thing. Then again, you cows somehow beleive the extra useless features of the PS3 somehow make it better...

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#71 gamer-adam1
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Im glad I pay for xbox live true gamers pay to play XD, like on the PC the best servers are always gamer paid servers. 1 vs 100 is worth playing alone.

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#72 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

Whats really funny, is lemming sare still paying to unlock multiplayer form games they bought, while cows, heck every other gamer still plays for free.

W1NGMAN-

This is true. If you are an MP or Co-op Junkie. You do have to pay that allotted amount in order to play.

Wait ... you're not banned anymore?

*big hug*

Welcome back buddy.

Thank you. It's been a quiet 3 weeks is all I can say.
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#73 RedruM_I
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like on the PC the best servers are always gamer paid servers.

gamer-adam1
Wut? :| This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard.
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#74 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

MizFitAwesome

Wow, you owned yourself to a ridiculous level. Paying more for less? If the rumors are true, anyone who chooses to subscribe to this new PSN service will be getting pretty much anything good XBL Gold has to offer and much more officially making PSN >>>>>> XBL. It works like this: XBL Gold > Free PSN PSN Premium >>> XBL Gold Free PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Silver Free PSN + Premium PSN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL Gold + XBL Silver Why would this make PSN so much better than XBL? Well 2 simple reasons. Offers everything XBL Gold does and more for a comparable price(most likely) and offers almost the same thing as Gold does but FREE. So basically, lemmings get owned either way. If they try to compare XBL Gold to Premium PSN, they lose. If they try to compare XBL Silver to Free PSN, they lose HORRIBLY. And basically they can't say anything negative about PSN at all anymore or they'll just get destroyed.

This is what you call being brainwashed by Sony. Beleiving that paying MORE money for even MORE useless features is some how going to make PSN better then XBL. Maybe you should read the supposed extra feature list before you jump on the bandwagon and act like it's a good thing. Then again, you cows somehow beleive the extra useless features of the PS3 somehow make it better...

Is just like lems thinking that paying for Live automatically makes online better on 360 :P. Funny lems.
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#75 Animal-Mother
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Im glad I pay for xbox live true gamers pay to play XD, like on the PC the best servers are always gamer paid servers. 1 vs 100 is worth playing alone.

gamer-adam1

I mean listen when you break it down. It's probably one of the cheapest things ever. But the thing is compared to free. I mean nothing for nothing. Is it better to have a service that has you pay for more options while staying free for the barebone. Or paying a pretty decent amount ( i mean think about it. As I said when you break it down it's 4.50 a month or whatever but that's also the cost of a new game you can purchase.) amount for everything, even having to unlock multiplayer?

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#76 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

like on the PC the best servers are always gamer paid servers.

RedruM_I
Wut? :| This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard.

howwwww, I play Battliefield 2 alot, and all the servers that are most populated are clan owned
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#77 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

like on the PC the best servers are always gamer paid servers.

gamer-adam1
Wut? :| This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard.

howwwww, I play Battliefield 2 alot, and all the servers that are most populated are clan owned

So you're talking about one game? I have played many PC games over the years on free dedicated servers and they are always great and with lots of people. How is my experience worse than yours?
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#78 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Wut? :| This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard.

howwwww, I play Battliefield 2 alot, and all the servers that are most populated are clan owned

So you're talking about one game? I have played many PC games over the years on free dedicated servers and they are always great and with lots of people. How is my experience worse than yours?

lots of servers are clanned owned, thats why they have mods most FPS have servers that are rented out from people. i have a friend whos in a clan that is paying for a server at arma 2. playing for a server IS different from playing online, im just saying someone always has to pay to play online
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#79 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Funnier still is, they will be paying more for less....

Animal-Mother

Whats really funny, is lemming sare still paying to unlock multiplayer form games they bought, while cows, heck every other gamer still plays for free.

This is true. If you are an MP or Co-op Junkie. You do have to pay that allotted amount in order to play.

:o Holy ****!

Am i going crazy or are you really back from the dead?

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#80 210189677155857843583653671808
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When is the Premium service available???????????

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#81 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

Whats really funny, is lemming sare still paying to unlock multiplayer form games they bought, while cows, heck every other gamer still plays for free.

shutdown_202

This is true. If you are an MP or Co-op Junkie. You do have to pay that allotted amount in order to play.

:o Holy ****!

Am i going crazy or are you really back from the dead?

I am teh system wars zombie, I am here for your braaaaaaaaainnnnnnns
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#82 stealthsneeker
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Well I have gotten some new info from my sources and they say Sony confirms PSN will no longer be free.

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#83 lundy86_4
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Well I have gotten some new info from my sources and they say Sony confirms PSN will no longer be free.

stealthsneeker

Yup. Except it will be, as the premium service is optional and will do little to affect the current free service.

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#84 stealthsneeker
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Well new info has come from Sony the free service that is now will not be free. You have to buy to get access to PSN.

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#85 lundy86_4
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Well new info has come from Sony the free service that is now will not be free. You have to buy to get access to PSN.

stealthsneeker

Cool :roll:

Sounds plausible :?

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#86 stealthsneeker
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Well either its wrong or it isent its hard to say, Sony hasent really givin us a deailted info on if it will be free or not. But I hope they will soon.

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#87 lundy86_4
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Well either its wrong or it isent its hard to say, Sony hasent really givin us a deailted info on if it will be free or not. But I hope they will soon.

stealthsneeker

It's already shown to be an optional charge, and that the core service of PSN will not change for the free "version", as per this quote

"Sony is considering offering a premium PlayStation Network subscription in the future. The subscription offering would provide new premium features you could choose to pay for and are in addition to the features currently available for free such as access to online multiplayer gaming (current features would remain free)."

Link

As you can say it states current features will remain free.

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#88 gamer620
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dont care about party chat, if thats what you are gettting, i get to play online for free. also party chat kinda ruins the online game TBH.InfiniteBlak
Wow... no it doesn't... the worst thing about MW2 is the lack of party chat in the major modes. Maybe it is because I prefer ONLY playing with friends when I play online, but if I play solo, im hardly using my headset unless the people aren't douchebags.
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#89 stealthsneeker
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Yeah but that really dosent say anything, because on the day this new service comes that info can change.

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#90 lundy86_4
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Yeah but that really dosent say anything, because on the day this new service comes that info can change.

stealthsneeker

Oh my word. Anything can change, I mean Live Gold could become free tomorrow. Will it happen? Probably not.

That is an indication, if not proof that PSN will remain free for the foreseeable future.

You like dealing in if's eh? Even when there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.

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#91 SambaLele
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There's still a big difference between the PSN and Live, which is the most important to gamers: the online play is still free.

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#92 gamefan274
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TC, PSN is free. When the service launches, I could still make an account and play online. I will be able to do anything I can do now, for free. If I can pay a little more for early access to betas and get a 3 year warrenty, why not pay? Its a bonus, not a necesity.

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#94 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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I never cared about those features to begin with, PSN does exactly what I want it to do while it's free, let me play online.
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#95 enterawesome
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As long as you can still play online for free, I could care less.
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#96 monson21502
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

Ok you can still just play on line for free. but the feature everyone was waiting for is going to cost you.

Looking at the pricing schemes their a few things that cow have attacked XBL for in the past like 'paid' subscribers getting content and demos to bump up the value of the premium and having facebook as a premium service too.

Also the "Member Only In-game Content

Get exclusive member-only in-game content for your PS3 or PSP such as new game play options, unlocked in-game weapons or player slots, exclusive levels, costumes/skins, and PlayStation Home spaces." seems odd. so if i don't subscribe i don't get the full content thats on the disk.

What's your thoughts. which tariff are you going to choose

i would pay for it if they fixed my 60 gig ps3 for free first. not sure why they dont supoort its early buyers. we should get at least 1 free fix for our 500-600 bucks. ps3 is dead to me untill sony steps up. only thing i miss is blu ray. and those are getting cheaper by the day....
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#97 monson21502
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As long as you can still play online for free, I could care less.enterawesome
better hope this sells well then. if not be ready to pay for online play. first quore failed. then they made some of the features promised to be free and put them to the premium. online play is next. mark my words.....
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#98 Jamex1987
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This is the first time hearing about this. Cannot find a link.
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#99 FIipMode
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People claiming ownage on rumors? I'm shocked.
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#100 stvee101
Member since 2006 • 2953 Posts

The thing is MS should offer Online play for free!! If they did that then that SCEWED felling ya get for paying for something that comes on the disk would go away!!!!!

Sony will still offer the basic gameplay for free. If they want to charge for other things like MS then that is fine because its an OPTION, not a requirment to play online!!!

Ravenlore_basic

Yep you got it in one,nice going.