So thats why GT5 is taking so long

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Damage? Really? And look! Dirt on the car! I think it started snowing in hell.

Sorry, I missed Sony's conference.

Adrian_Cloud

I find it funny that you see one picture of GT5 featuring damage and you say it will be more realistic than Forza. But, then you go on to say that you bet that doors and hoods will come flying off in Forza3 and it will be exaggerated...................What do you expect to happen if you fly into a wall at 150mph?

EDIT: Oh and the Top Gear track is in the game. They have said that from the begining havn't they?

Damage? Really? And look! Dirt on the car! I think it started snowing in hell.

Sorry, I missed Sony's conference.

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Damage? Really? And look! Dirt on the car! I think it started snowing in hell.

Sorry, I missed Sony's conference.

che5ter666

I find it funny that you see one picture of GT5 featuring damage and you say it will be more realistic than Forza. But, then you go on to say that you bet that doors and hoods will come flying off in Forza3 and it will be exaggerated...................What do you expect to happen if you fly into a wall at 150mph?

Yea, I'm pretty sure if I hit a wall in my car at 170MPH, I would have no car left. lol

[QUOTE="NickJD_"]GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingfoxhound_fox

THANK YOU!!

In the time it has taken to create GT5, 2 itterations of Forza will have been released - Because of things like the Auction House, custom livery editors Forza 2 still has plenty or replay value and now with Forza 3 having in-car details GT5 can no longer have a stronghold in that department.

I'll defo buy GT5 for my PS3 - I just think its hillarious when people bash forza even though Turn 10 has not only set a release date for the third game but released Forza 2 before GT5 also...seems like a cry for 'justification' over the time it has taken to release it to me.

i dont get the forza girls in this thread saying that there is no gt5 yet....

no one has played forza 3 yet either......

both legions are arguing over trailers. get out of here.

i dont get the forza girls in this thread saying that there is no gt5 yet....

no one has played forza 3 yet either......

both legions are arguing over trailers. get out of here.

out0v0rder

The difference is, we have seen more gameplay footage of FM3 in the last 2 months than we have seen of GT5 in its whole development cycle and there is a release date for FM3.

GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingNickJD_

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="NickJD_"]GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingTurboGuru

THANK YOU!!

In the time it has taken to create GT5, 2 itterations of Forza will have been released - Because of things like the Auction House, custom livery editors Forza 2 still has plenty or replay value and now with Forza 3 having in-car details GT5 can no longer have a stronghold in that department.

I'll defo buy GT5 for my PS3 - I just think its hillarious when people bash forza even though Turn 10 has not only set a release date for the third game but released Forza 2 before GT5 also...seems like a cry for 'justification' over the time it has taken to release it to me.

i dont get the forza girls in this thread saying that there is no gt5 yet....

no one has played forza 3 yet either......

both legions are arguing over trailers. get out of here.

out0v0rder

i dont get the forza girls in this thread saying that there is no gt5 yet....

no one has played forza 3 yet either......

both legions are arguing over trailers. get out of here.

out0v0rder

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Damage? Really? And look! Dirt on the car! I think it started snowing in hell.

Sorry, I missed Sony's conference.

I find it funny that you see one picture of GT5 featuring damage and you say it will be more realistic than Forza. But, then you go on to say that you bet that doors and hoods will come flying off in Forza3 and it will be exaggerated...................What do you expect to happen if you fly into a wall at 150mph?

EDIT: Oh and the Top Gear track is in the game. They have said that from the begining havn't they?

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]no one will every think to say forza is better than gt5..no one...gt5 is the ultimate real driving sim..planbfreak4eva

NASCAR?Never watched it.

Rally? Never watched it.

I guess whatever they can do to deliver on the 10,000 car promise...even if 6,000 of those cars are the exact same thing.

Why not stick to cars that are on the road Polyphony? Why not put the 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI that I currently drive into the game with complete customization? Why not include the 2002 Mustang GT in factory correct Mineral Gray paint that I dreamt night and day about in high school?

Why not include an entire mod scene?

Why not quit wasting your time securing licenses for stupid NASCAR/Rally cars and instead concentrate on obtaining licensure for the full product lines of manufacturers such as: Kenne Bell, SLP, Magnaflow, Borla, etc etc?

Why not spend your time recording the sounds each individual part makes when applied to a car and filling up this blu-ray disc with things people WANT? Why not line your pockets by using the ACTUAL HP/TQ gains these parts these parts produce relative to their price, in effect selling these parts to gamers who might not have known they could afford them or that they even existed?

Why not work on licensing new tracks/streets/cities to use for races instead of including cars that are only good on 1 kind of track...

Enough of this, Forza 3 ftw.

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Its about gameplay. Something we will have to wait and see. But so far forza has been winning.slvrraven9

Yea, I have a real car and even I can say Forza's driving mechanics are better than GT's... (Thats not saying GT is a bad series, because its not, its a great series)

I am shocked people are defending Polys complete garbage for a showing I have ever seen...They told nothing about the game.....

Damage??. Great lets hear about it?

NASCAR?.. Great lets hear about it?

Rally? Great lets hear about it?

Were is the night and weather effects Poly?

What cars are in it...Did you do your job a get a proper showing from Porsche and Ferrari?

How about a release date?....

Why not inform the fans on how the progress is coming along?

This half fast crap is getting boring...

NASCAR?Never watched it.

Rally? Never watched it.

I guess whatever they can do to deliver on the 10,000 car promise...even if 6,000 of those cars are the exact same thing.

Why not stick to cars that are on the road Polyphony? Why not put the 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI that I currently drive into the game with complete customization? Why not include the 2002 Mustang GT in factory correct Mineral Gray paint that I dreamt night and day about in high school?

Why not include an entire mod scene?

Why not quit wasting your time securing licenses for stupid NASCAR/Rally cars and instead concentrate on obtaining licensure for the full product lines of manufacturers such as: Kenne Bell, SLP, Magnaflow, Borla, etc etc?

Why not spend your time recording the sounds each individual part makes when applied to a car and filling up this blu-ray disc with things people WANT? Why not line your pockets by using the ACTUAL HP/TQ gains these parts these parts produce relative to their price, in effect selling these parts to gamers who might not have known they could afford them or that they even existed?

Why not work on licensing new tracks/streets/cities to use for races instead of including cars that are only good on 1 kind of track...

Enough of this, Forza 3 ftw.

TheSystemLord1

Summed it up. I don't think they realize outside of America nobody cares, watches or is interested in nascar. :lol: They've lost the plot. Theres such a thing as to much and they've tried to do to much and it;s just looking a bit lame now.

Ah well they've got 10 more years to clean it up and release the game i suppose. I don't see why tehres all these arguments over which is better GT5 or FM3 either. Clearly GT5 is going to be superior, after all it's going to release 5-10 years after Forza 3.

Did everyone see this?

I think everyone on this site should see this at least once.

This is awesome, but we still got NO information about the game.

Knowing Polyphony, this is no surprise to me.

I am shocked people are defending Polys complete garbage for a showing I have ever seen...They told nothing about the game.....

Damage??. Great lets hear about it?

NASCAR?.. Great lets hear about it?

Rally? Great lets hear about it?

Were is the night and weather effects Poly?

What cars are in it...Did you do your job a get a proper showing from Porsche and Ferrari?

How about a release date?....

Why not inform the fans on how the progress is coming along?

This half fast crap is getting boring...

masiisam

Just look where the sun is.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Damage? Really? And look! Dirt on the car! I think it started snowing in hell.

Sorry, I missed Sony's conference.

The_Game21x

What? You've seen one picture of damage in GT5 and that's enough for you to say it's better than the damage in Forza 3? :lol: Are you serious?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Forza 3 has that artistic kinda feel to it, it looks like they used the PGR4 engine and improved on it. It kinda has a styl3 like Grid too. GT5 looks so much more realistic than Forza 3, the damage in GT5 just looks so much better. Its subtle and realistic, in Forza 3 i bet your door would fall off and you loose your whole hood. Its just so exaggerated. It was a good conference, Best motion controller, Best gameplay footage and 2 major exclusive surprises. FFIX and Agent. WRC,Nascar i wonder what else Pholophony have been licensing. (formula one, formula drift!!, they might even have the TOP GEAR track in the game)

Rikusaki

What? You've seen one picture of damage in GT5 and that's enough for you to say it's better than the damage in Forza 3? :lol: Are you serious?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Forza 3 has that artistic kinda feel to it, it looks like they used the PGR4 engine and improved on it. It kinda has a styl3 like Grid too. GT5 looks so much more realistic than Forza 3, the damage in GT5 just looks so much better. Its subtle and realistic, in Forza 3 i bet your door would fall off and you loose your whole hood. Its just so exaggerated. It was a good conference, Best motion controller, Best gameplay footage and 2 major exclusive surprises. FFIX and Agent. WRC,Nascar i wonder what else Pholophony have been licensing. (formula one, formula drift!!, they might even have the TOP GEAR track in the game)

Rikusaki

What? You've seen one picture of damage in GT5 and that's enough for you to say it's better than the damage in Forza 3? :lol: Are you serious?

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

What? You've seen one picture of damage in GT5 and that's enough for you to say it's better than the damage in Forza 3? :lol: Are you serious?

The_Game21x

Yep. :) Both will be very solid games.

EDIT: Oh, wait. This is SW...Uhh. GT5 will hve better damage because the devs behind Polyphony are perfectionists. They never add a feature until they feel they can do it right. Kazunori said this himself when he was talking about the new cockpit view.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] I have a very strong feeling that GT5's damage modeling will be near-perfect.

Yep. :) Both will be very solid games.

EDIT: Oh, wait. This is SW...Uhh. GT5 will hve better damage because devs behind Polyphony are perfectionists. They never add a feature until they feel they can do it right. Kazunori said this himself when he was talking about the new cockpit view.

I know that this is replay, not gameplay, but this looks photorealistic.

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

Rally, NASCAR and Damage confirmed today.

shaggygrosser

You meet his opinion with another opinion. Truth is nobody knows yet.

Rally, NASCAR and Damage confirmed today.

Uptown

heres a pic from the videomode trailer, showing the slip and tire deformation in forza 3: as far as I know this is essentially replay mode of actual gameplay. Turn 10 said that they do NOT do bullshots. Tobin09

It could still be a bullshot dude, in fact it most likely is. The replay mode adds various filters to it that would otherwise put a strain on the game with AI and physics running. That is the very premise of a bullshot.

If I don't see a screen shot showing a HUD it is suspect at best.

Actually, why its taking so long is GT Mobile on the PSP Go. And the fact that it probably took them 6 months to put that trailer together that had not a single shot of gameplay. And damage has not been confirmed. Just because you see a Subaru rally car with damage, doesn't mean the road racing is going to have damage. And I'm pretty sure they've already talked about how, supposedly, car manufacturers don't want non-race cars taking damage in their games.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]we r not screamin its better because we saw some trailer. its because forza fanboys again started talkin and saying forza is da best and gt is nothing. so after this small trailer. maybe they will keep their mouth shut for a whilefoxhound_fox

lolololol 4 years later and still no GT5 and no release date and people are amazed by damage. Having nascar is no excuse for taking so long to release if EA can do it in less then a yearNetYankEagle

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]heres a pic from the videomode trailer, showing the slip and tire deformation in forza 3: as far as I know this is essentially replay mode of actual gameplay. Turn 10 said that they do NOT do bullshots. Leejjohno

It could still be a bullshot dude, in fact it most likely is. The replay mode adds various filters to it that would otherwise put a strain on the game with AI and physics running. That is the very premise of a bullshot.

If I don't see a screen shot showing a HUD it is suspect at best.

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]heres a pic from the videomode trailer, showing the slip and tire deformation in forza 3: as far as I know this is essentially replay mode of actual gameplay. Turn 10 said that they do NOT do bullshots. Leejjohno

It could still be a bullshot dude, in fact it most likely is. The replay mode adds various filters to it that would otherwise put a strain on the game with AI and physics running. That is the very premise of a bullshot.

If I don't see a screen shot showing a HUD it is suspect at best.

In gameplay, you will not see this, because of the camera angles durring gameplay, you will only see this durring replay mode, just like driving a real car, when I hit a turn hard in my car, I can feel the slip on the tires, even though I can't see it.

EDIT: In my Lancer, you feel the ENTIRE car, as in, all 4 tires start to slip, due to it being AWD, but, because its AWD, it doesn't happen as much as it does in a FWD or RWD car (This is why they test cars on a Skid Pad course, to see how many g's a car can take before the tires start slipping),in my Galant, its not the same, my Galant tends to oversteer due to it being FWD.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

heres a pic from the videomode trailer, showing the slip and tire deformation in forza 3: as far as I know this is essentially replay mode of actual gameplay. Turn 10 said that they do NOT do bullshots. Tobin09

It could still be a bullshot dude, in fact it most likely is. The replay mode adds various filters to it that would otherwise put a strain on the game with AI and physics running. That is the very premise of a bullshot.

If I don't see a screen shot showing a HUD it is suspect at best.

In gameplay, you will not see this, because of the camera angles durring gameplay, you will only see this durring replay mode, just like driving a real car, when I hit a turn hard in my car, I can feel the slip on the tires, even though I can't see it.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

It could still be a bullshot dude, in fact it most likely is. The replay mode adds various filters to it that would otherwise put a strain on the game with AI and physics running. That is the very premise of a bullshot.

If I don't see a screen shot showing a HUD it is suspect at best.

Tobin09

In gameplay, you will not see this, because of the camera angles durring gameplay, you will only see this durring replay mode, just like driving a real car, when I hit a turn hard in my car, I can feel the slip on the tires, even though I can't see it.

Yea, I know what you were trying to say man, I have a high performance car and know EXACTLY what this feels like.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]heres a pic from the videomode trailer, showing the slip and tire deformation in forza 3: as far as I know this is essentially replay mode of actual gameplay. Turn 10 said that they do NOT do bullshots. Tobin09

It could still be a bullshot dude, in fact it most likely is. The replay mode adds various filters to it that would otherwise put a strain on the game with AI and physics running. That is the very premise of a bullshot.

If I don't see a screen shot showing a HUD it is suspect at best.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I am shocked people are defending Polys complete garbage for a showing I have ever seen...They told nothing about the game.....

Damage??. Great lets hear about it?

NASCAR?.. Great lets hear about it?

Rally? Great lets hear about it?

Were is the night and weather effects Poly?

What cars are in it...Did you do your job a get a proper showing from Porsche and Ferrari?

How about a release date?....

Why not inform the fans on how the progress is coming along?

This half fast crap is getting boring...

Rikusaki

Just look where the sun is.

And???...What does that have anything to do with my post? Because the sun is setting that confirms night and weather effects? Right...right ..right..and a dented front quarter panel confirms cosmetic damage? Wooptie freaking doooo...

What about physical performance hindering effects due to collection?

What depth does that go into? What does it affect?

Are there degrees of damage?

By the looks of him on the stage talking about the PSP GT....He was about to throw up...so I guess there are a 1000 reasons why he did not go into details of anything and I am sure GT fans will make another 1000 reason up on what where and why...

Heres to another year of being in the dark..HIP HIP HURRAYYYAAA

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I am shocked people are defending Polys complete garbage for a showing I have ever seen...They told nothing about the game.....

Damage??. Great lets hear about it?

NASCAR?.. Great lets hear about it?

Rally? Great lets hear about it?

Were is the night and weather effects Poly?

What cars are in it...Did you do your job a get a proper showing from Porsche and Ferrari?

How about a release date?....

Why not inform the fans on how the progress is coming along?

This half fast crap is getting boring...

masiisam

Just look where the sun is.

And???...What does that have anything to do with my post? Because the sun is setting that confirms night and weather effects? Right...right ..right..and a dented front quarter panel confirms cosmetic damage? Wooptie freaking doooo...

What about physical performance hindering effects due to collection?

What depth does that go into? What does it affect?

Are there degrees of damage?

By the looks of him on the stage talking about the PSP GT....He was about to throw up...so I guess there are a 1000 reasons why he did not go into details of anything and I am sure GT fans will make another 1000 reason up on what where and why...

Heres to another year of being in the dark..HIP HIP HURRAYYYAAA

Yea, I'm not sure where this is going, my car has automatic daytime headlights and the "main" headlights turn on automatically when I enter a tunnel or if its dark outside...

Was it just me, or did anyone else notice the Ferrari Enzo on the Gran turismo PSP trailer. That has to say something. Ferrari will be present and i'm sure they've got some more licenses if not most of the car manufacturers in the world today. I have complete faith in Gran turismo 5 to be the best racing simulation game to date. It will stomp Forza.

But it's all thanks to the release of Forza that we'll be able to play the greatest Gran turismo ever. Competition only creates better games. Polyphony is a monster. It's woken up....... They put 800 cars on a PSP game. 60 variations of tracks. Come on. You can't say they aren't amazing.

and to people saying that Forza is the best because they have two AAA's have it very wrong. The only reason GT4 didn't get AAA was because of no online. Ps2 online was terrible. i'd rather not have had it. Gamespot obviously just wanted to create publicity for their site. How can a game that has too much to handle and at least take a year to reach 100% with graphics like that on a playstation TWO...TWO, not fulfill a AAA status. 8.9? psshhhhh

I don't really care if it comes out in forever but....i'm pretty much over gaming anyway...This and Final Fantasy are the only games that i'll come back to...

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I am shocked people are defending Polys complete garbage for a showing I have ever seen...They told nothing about the game.....

Damage??. Great lets hear about it?

NASCAR?.. Great lets hear about it?

Rally? Great lets hear about it?

Were is the night and weather effects Poly?

What cars are in it...Did you do your job a get a proper showing from Porsche and Ferrari?

How about a release date?....

Why not inform the fans on how the progress is coming along?

This half fast crap is getting boring...

masiisam

Just look where the sun is.

And???...What does that have anything to do with my post? Because the sun is setting that confirms night and weather effects? Right...right ..right..and a dented front quarter panel confirms cosmetic damage? Wooptie freaking doooo...

What about physical performance hindering effects due to collection?

What depth does that go into? What does it affect?

Are there degrees of damage?

By the looks of him on the stage talking about the PSP GT....He was about to throw up...so I guess there are a 1000 reasons why he did not go into details of anything and I am sure GT fans will make another 1000 reason up on what where and why...

Heres to another year of being in the dark..HIP HIP HURRAYYYAAA

lol^

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Did you not see the cars with their headlights on?

Just look where the sun is.

Rikusaki

And???...What does that have anything to do with my post? Because the sun is setting that confirms night and weather effects? Right...right ..right..and a dented front quarter panel confirms cosmetic damage? Wooptie freaking doooo...

What about physical performance hindering effects due to collection?

What depth does that go into? What does it affect?

Are there degrees of damage?

By the looks of him on the stage talking about the PSP GT....He was about to throw up...so I guess there are a 1000 reasons why he did not go into details of anything and I am sure GT fans will make another 1000 reason up on what where and why...

Heres to another year of being in the dark..HIP HIP HURRAYYYAAA

Ohhh please...don't get me started...If you want to go there...Where is your cryptic messengers "track editor"? that was confirmed to right?

Does not change the fact the sole purpose of E3 is to inform the FANS of what to expect...I would rather Poly did nothing and said nothing....then to show something and not back anything up......It's pure garbage...

Next time you talk to your cryptic insider source ask him why on earth did they show a damaged front quarter panel on a rally car...then a few scenes later during the NASCAR segment..The scene cuts away before the car hits the wall?....If it's this new evolution and addition to the brand..Why would you do something so half fast and weak?

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

And???...What does that have anything to do with my post? Because the sun is setting that confirms night and weather effects? Right...right ..right..and a dented front quarter panel confirms cosmetic damage? Wooptie freaking doooo...

What about physical performance hindering effects due to collection?

What depth does that go into? What does it affect?

Are there degrees of damage?

By the looks of him on the stage talking about the PSP GT....He was about to throw up...so I guess there are a 1000 reasons why he did not go into details of anything and I am sure GT fans will make another 1000 reason up on what where and why...

Heres to another year of being in the dark..HIP HIP HURRAYYYAAA

masiisam

Ohhh please...don't get me started...If you want to go there...Where is your cryptic messengers "track editor"? that was confirmed to right?

Does not change the fact the sole purpose of E3 is to inform the FANS of what to expect...I would rather Poly did nothing and said nothing....then to show something and not back anything up......It's pure garbage...

Next time you talk to your cryptic insider source ask him why on earth did they show a damaged front quarter panel on a rally car...then a few scenes later during the NASCAR segment..The scene cuts away before the car hits the wall?....If it's this new evolution and addition to the brand..Why would you do something so half fast and weak?

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Gosh... I already told you that nighttime racing and dynamic weather was confirmed by Kazunori.Rikusaki

Ohhh please...don't get me started...If you want to go there...Where is your cryptic messengers "track editor"? that was confirmed to right?

Does not change the fact the sole purpose of E3 is to inform the FANS of what to expect...I would rather Poly did nothing and said nothing....then to show something and not back anything up......It's pure garbage...

Next time you talk to your cryptic insider source ask him why on earth did they show a damaged front quarter panel on a rally car...then a few scenes later during the NASCAR segment..The scene cuts away before the car hits the wall?....If it's this new evolution and addition to the brand..Why would you do something so half fast and weak?

Yea think?? A work in progress is the companies mission statement....

Maybe if they told us everything that's in the game it would be easier to wait.TREAL_Since

That is completely true

I was excited when the key note announced the GT trailer.....I had expectations of Poly stepping back onto stage and going over everything.....When they did not it was disappointing and frustrating..