So thats why GT5 is taking so long

Guess this works lol. Yea not even close to the photo realistic look that GT5p has much less what GT5 will have. But yea those replay editor screens look sharp :)

Guess this works lol. Yea not even close to the photo realistic look that GT5p has much less what GT5 will have. But yea those replay editor screens look sharp :)GreyFoXX4

to be honest im looking forward to GT5 im not bothered bout the wait as theres other games to keep me occupied, i think theres a high chance we will see some game play footage ableit it wont look much diffrent from prologue but they will show off the damage engine

Probably why its taking so long is that each car and track actually takes a while to design and with the amount of cars that would take some time if you are to add in real time damage to the models.I also think they will be trying to get more out the PS3 aswell and Polyphony is known for perfection in games i remember 4 got delayed a few times but still imo it was worth the wait especially doing 24h races at Le Mans :P

they showed a teaser. I have so many questions on how you put a Nascar car into a same game with a formula 1 car and a rally car and balance that all out. Forget just looks, its a completely different sty-le and then there is the idea of those racing organizations and how they work? do you buy pit crews? do you buy your own chasis, engines, etc ? and then the driving sty-les for these cars is another thing?, what tracks are going to be there? After all what nascar fan wouldn't want Darlington or Daytona or Talladega, etc In fact where is the actual gameplay footage of the actual cars......Polyphony showed nothing but a teaser. While the teaser shows something that MIGHT be ambitious, its not good enough. At this point it is too much speculation. jg4xchamp

It is frustrating...more questions than answers...

One comment about F1 in GT...I would be shocked to see it in GT5...The F2007 is in GT5P...buy Sony lost the exclusive rights and no longer has the rights to the teams, cars, tracks...Codemaster is the holder of the license and I am sure Sony/Poly are not going to pay Codies for the rights...

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Guess this works lol. Yea not even close to the photo realistic look that GT5p has much less what GT5 will have. But yea those replay editor screens look sharp :)VitunLehmat

[QUOTE="shabab12"] Or maybe you just have to take your fanboy goggles off? Seriously, youve been all over these forums dissing the PS3 this past week. foxhound_fox

Actually I have been a fan of the gt series, and it really lost it's appeal, I mean come on the bumper car physics has gotten old, crashing is a part of real life NASCAR, Rally racing, even go karts suffer damage when it an incident is presented. Im not saying gt series needs cosmetical damage, just atleast give me some engine wear or transmission damage when you over rev a gear.

Fix the A.I., fix the bumper car physics, give the turbo chargers and superchargers some noise, and try to get to the level of a simulator that Forza is at.

If I was a GT fan I'd be worried right now. This game has been in development for at least 5 years now, and Polyphony can't show anything more than a teaser trailer? How can they not have gameplay footage at this point?

GreyFoXX4:Funny that drivers from all over the world try to make it in Nascar and very few do.

Euro's are funny sometime lol. I mean yall rather watch cars race to a corner and out brake each other than 2 cars racing door handle to door handle and the best driver making the pass. If yall really knew anything about racing yalls series would be high lighted all over the globe like Nascar is lol. Not only that but you would know aswell that getting a car that wants to go straight to make it make a corner at 170 mph inches away from the driver next to you isn't as easy as running nose to tail and can't pass until the next S curve lol.

Also as a Nascar fan I love ALL RACING and don't complain about the Grand prix cars or all of the road coarses, so why are yall complaining about adding another series to GT5, which isn't nothing but a good thing

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Put a NASCAR driver in the seat of an F1 and they'll end up last (or crashed given the power and speed of the cars). Put an F1 driver in the seat of a rally car and they'll end up in the ditch and wonder how the rally drivers drive sideways at 150mph around corners (this has been done, I don't remember who it was though).

NASCAR takes very little overall skill. Its driving around banked loops and a road course or two. All it involves is getting the right draft. You don't have to worry about shifting the car's weight properly when slowing down. You don't have to worry about turning into a corner too early and then coming out of it all wrong. You don't have to worry about hitting the apex while overtaking. You just drive with the pedal to the floor with slight adjustments on the steering wheel.

Go play Forza Motorsport 2. Take a Ferrari Enzo to Nissan Speedway and then the Nurburgring and tell me which course was harder and required more skill to race. Hell, don't even worry about racing with other racers.

really last gen physics... dmg modeling was the only thing missing...now its in.... its deff not last gen

hyperboy152000

Not funny when you think about it.Forza is like mario kart with next gen graphics and real cars and GT is just GT.It takes an afternoon to build a sand castle but it takes a few months to build a real castle, which would you want to be in during a hurricane?

Rockman999

Forza has a more advanced physics model and racing mechanics. GT is still stuck in the '90's. All it has is pretty looking car models. It was never designed to be a racing sim, but a pretty car replay generator.

Your analogy is fail. Turn 10's castle is bigger, stronger and more well-constructed but has taken much less time to construct since they had blueprints and a team with a single goal. Kazunori is a wishy-washy developer who doesn't know what he wants in his game and has got such an inflated head from the success of the GT series, thinks he is capable of much more than his limited talents. This trailer showing us that he is trying to integrate absolutely everything is a testament to his inability to settle on something tangible for release.

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Guess this works lol. Yea not even close to the photo realistic look that GT5p has much less what GT5 will have. But yea those replay editor screens look sharp :)

GreyFoXX4

If I was a GT fan I'd be worried right now. This game has been in development for at least 5 years now, and Polyphony can't show anything more than a teaser trailer? How can they not have gameplay footage at this point?

Gamer556

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If I was a GT fan I'd be worried right now. This game has been in development for at least 5 years now, and Polyphony can't show anything more than a teaser trailer? How can they not have gameplay footage at this point?

out0v0rder

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[QUOTE="NickJD_"]GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingRockman999

Put a NASCAR driver in the seat of an F1 and they'll end up last (or crashed given the power and speed of the cars). Put an F1 driver in the seat of a rally car and they'll end up in the ditch and wonder how the rally drivers drive sideways at 150mph around corners (this has been done, I don't remember who it was though).

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Put a NASCAR driver in the seat of an F1 and they'll end up last (or crashed given the power and speed of the cars). Put an F1 driver in the seat of a rally car and they'll end up in the ditch and wonder how the rally drivers drive sideways at 150mph around corners (this has been done, I don't remember who it was though).

HuusAsking

Exactly, montoya is.... Not good.

Forza 3 >> GT5 Not to mention the 360 controllers much better for racing games also.TheOwnerOner

But on the other end of the scale, would a rally driver know enough about fuel management to make it through a 600-mile race in good position? Could an F1 driver succeed in a NASCAR race? IOW, switch the shoes.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

If I was a GT fan I'd be worried right now. This game has been in development for at least 5 years now, and Polyphony can't show anything more than a teaser trailer? How can they not have gameplay footage at this point?

out0v0rder

So a $40 demo justifies having to wait 6 years for a real Gran Turismo game?

I know GT5 is an ambitious project, but I think the amount of content is only partially to blame for the delays. I've come to believe that Polyphony is just a really inefficient game studio. Just look at that mess of a project that was their PSP game. I swear GT4 Portable was the first thing I ever saw for the PSP, and a version of it is just now coming out. I don't care how robust the game really is. That's no excuse for taking so long to release it.

GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingNickJD_

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]Forza 3 >> GT5 Not to mention the 360 controllers much better for racing games also.foxhound_fox

But on the other end of the scale, would a rally driver know enough about fuel management to make it through a 600-mile race in good position? Could an F1 driver succeed in a NASCAR race? IOW, switch the shoes.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]Forza 3 >> GT5 Not to mention the 360 controllers much better for racing games also.foxhound_fox

But on the other end of the scale, would a rally driver know enough about fuel management to make it through a 600-mile race in good position? Could an F1 driver succeed in a NASCAR race? IOW, switch the shoes.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Put a NASCAR driver in the seat of an F1 and they'll end up last (or crashed given the power and speed of the cars). Put an F1 driver in the seat of a rally car and they'll end up in the ditch and wonder how the rally drivers drive sideways at 150mph around corners (this has been done, I don't remember who it was though).

KingTuttle

Hold on there...Lets not get ahead of ourselves... Montoya is a tool and always has been one...He had some successes in F1 but his lack of fitness and pace is why he got out of the Sport..I am not say that's WHY he got into NASCAR....Because of his lack of fitness and pace...All I am saying he HAD to get out of F1 because of it.....Clearly his training has not improved and he is still struggling to find pace once again.

Case in point...horrible example

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But on the other end of the scale, would a rally driver know enough about fuel management to make it through a 600-mile race in good position? Could an F1 driver succeed in a NASCAR race? IOW, switch the shoes.

Hold on there...Lets not get ahead of ourselves... Montoya is a tool and always has been one...He had some successes in F1 but his lack of fitness and pace is why he got out of the Sport..I am not say that's WHY he got into NASCAR....Because of his lack of fitness and pace...All I am saying he HAD to get out of F1 because of it.....Clearly his training has not improved and he is still struggling to find pace once again.

Case in point...horrible example

I wouldn't say that. The thing about pit stops is that the race is still going on while you're in pit row. Sure, rally racing mechanic teams can tear down a car between stages pretty quick, but can they do the pit crew's daunting task of fueling a car, changing tires, and making sure a car is ready to get back on the track...in under 10 seconds. And can rally racers handle long hauls, traveling hundreds of miles with only the occasional few-second pit-stop in between? Surviving say the Coca-Cola 600 is daunting in its own way, not just for you but for the car (since you don't have time to tear down a car when it breaks), so you better hope your engine can stand the strain. That's why you don't see a lot of success stories of drivers switching types of racing regardless of the origin and destination. Each form of racing is daunting in its own way.

HuusAsking

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[QUOTE="KingTuttle"] More importantly how is a former (and very talented) F1 driver (Montoya) with all these vaunted skills doing in NASCAR? Oh yeah....

KingTuttle

Hold on there...Lets not get ahead of ourselves... Montoya is a tool and always has been one...He had some successes in F1 but his lack of fitness and pace is why he got out of the Sport..I am not say that's WHY he got into NASCAR....Because of his lack of fitness and pace...All I am saying he HAD to get out of F1 because of it.....Clearly his training has not improved and he is still struggling to find pace once again.

Case in point...horrible example

I think they deserve credit for what they are......Hell I respect them all simply because it's something I can never do...

But Fox's is right to say the order.....(I might switch F1 and Rally around:P)...I am not saying a NASCAR driver can't drive, or they would not succeed in another discipline.... but the discipline is simply more involved in both F1 and Rally....

Simply the adjustment would be a lot tougher going from NASCAR to the other disciplines vs. the other way around.....Not just from a skills standpoint, but physical.

I enjoy ROC...but the scale is underwhelming for me.. Understandably so...but nevertheless...... Underwhelming

GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingNickJD_

[QUOTE="NickJD_"]GT5 is in a class of its own, Forza is just cute next to it. GT is the real kingNinja-Hippo