So the Halo Remake is really only a remaster? :(

Guys I think TC might just be a COD fanboy or something like that... Halo is a pretty good game series and it's the best FPS series on consoles ever to date. Sure I may not be the biggest Halo fan myself and there are other FPS games I prefer over Halo but there is NO denying the impact that it had on the FPS genre.

And this is coming from a pretty big PS3 fan (or pretty big cow asalot of people like to call me that on here :P )

That's not an excuse at all. When people are playing Halo online multiplayer, and they want to go from Reach maps to CE maps, you actually think it would be a "good" idea to have to switch discs when going into different map arenas? Just how would that make any sense? ALL maps should be accessible from one lobby.AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="DOOOOOOOOOOPID"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

But they ARE doing it right. So not sure if you even have any point at all.

gamedude234

what has that got to do with anything?

Your Point? I thought everyone knew it was going to be the same game.

Except you forgot afirefight map, hidden terminals to find that expand on the stroy of Halo, skulls, new easter eggs,and a classic mode that allows you to switch between graphics...... yep they did nothing at all.

A remake that is a...remake?

:o :shock: I'm flabbergasted!

at $40 for one game, that sucks:?

at that price it should be a complete remaster, especially considering how many copies you know it will sell

MGS: Twin Snakes was a total remaster and that sold for $50 when it came out. that is how Halo SHOULD be done

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Look, they already explained why they didn't remake the MP from the original, they did not want to split up the online userbase (i.e. people playing Reach), especially for 7 maps, which is why later on the maps will be available as DLC for people who just own Reach. AdobeArtist

That's not an excuse at all. When people are playing Halo online multiplayer, and they want to go from Reach maps to CE maps, you actually think it would be a "good" idea to have to switch discs when going into different map arenas? Just how would that make any sense? ALL maps should be accessible from one lobby.

[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

At least its not like sony, they arnt just going to port with nothing done.

RandomWinner

Yeah, but Sony don't preach them as being something different than that.

Also, they come in a collection of 2 or 3 games at the same price as Halo.

The thing that ruins a Halo collection for me is the fact that it doesn't have the original MP. How hard can it be to port? If anything they should give both Reach and CE multiplayer!

A remake that is a...remake?

:o :shock: I'm flabbergasted!

Mograine

While I appreciate expectations may not have been met by those excpecting more.

If they changed the gameplay engine it's no longer Halo 1.

Why would anyone want them to update the engine. I couldn't really give a rodents be-hind about the Halo story. So if it's no longer the same as Halo 1, I may as well just play the newer games.

Giving it a more current gameplay engine would just be a CoD effect really, just slap the same engine on a new setting and repackage it. It seems a little insulting in itself really.

You take away the gameplay, it looses it's character and ultimately becomes a different game and gets bit pointless in my opinion.

While I appreciate expectations may not have been met by those excpecting more.

If they changed the gameplay engine it no longer is Halo 1.

Why would anyone want them to update it the engine. I couldn't really give a rodents be-hind about the Halo story. So if it's no longer the same as Halo 1, I may as well just play the newer games.

Giving it a more current gameplay engine would just be a CoD effect really, just slap the same engine on a new setting and repackage it. It seems a little insulting in itself really.

You take away the gameplay, it looses it's character and ultimately becomes a different game and gets bit pointless in my opinion.

Darth_DuMas

at $40 for one game, that sucks:?

at that price it should be a complete remaster, especially considering how many copies you know it will sell

MGS: Twin Snakes was a total remaster and that sold for $50 when it came out. that is how Halo SHOULD be done

mztazmz

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]

While I appreciate expectations may not have been met by those excpecting more.

If they changed the gameplay engine it no longer is Halo 1.

Why would anyone want them to update it the engine. I couldn't really give a rodents be-hind about the Halo story. So if it's no longer the same as Halo 1, I may as well just play the newer games.

Giving it a more current gameplay engine would just be a CoD effect really, just slap the same engine on a new setting and repackage it. It seems a little insulting in itself really.

You take away the gameplay, it looses it's character and ultimately becomes a different game and gets bit pointless in my opinion.

JohnDead80

I'm a bit confused, some are also touting Zelda OoT 3DS a Remake, but by your description it just has a graphical upgrade. :?

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

At least its not like sony, they arnt just going to port with nothing done.

JohnDead80

Yeah, but Sony don't preach them as being something different than that.

Also, they come in a collection of 2 or 3 games at the same price as Halo.

The thing that ruins a Halo collection for me is the fact that it doesn't have the original MP. How hard can it be to port? If anything they should give both Reach and CE multiplayer!

The CE multiplayer was defined primarily by its map design. If you can get that from the Reach lobby, what's the difference? And before you say "armor abilities", it's been said that the CE playlist will have default settings that turns that off (but can also be turned on through cutom settings if players want), so it will be just like the mp was in CE, with upgraded visuals to the level design. And being able to access all along with the Reach maps from the same lobby is a far more sensible solution than having to switch discs when players want to move around from different map sets.

To reply to OrganicMachine's comment; it usually goes without saying that the most current release of a shooter series is what holds the most active mp community, as a majority will migrate over. This goes for almost any series, COD, BF, KZ, Gears... not just Halo. But with Anniversary, that's NOT the most current Halo, it's a remastered edition of a much older game. So it makes sense to integrate it's mp with what is still now the most current generation of Halo which is Reach.

When Halo 4 comes out we'll see the same pattern, a majority of players will migrate to that for the MP, and we'll very liklely see recreations and reimaginings of older maps from Reach and probably prior to that, just like Halo 3 recreated a lot of Halo 2 and Halo 1 maps (some being in DLC). Adding "cIassic" maps to the newest game satisfies the need for people who liked older maps and can mix things up with the newer ones in the most current game.

Why do you actually care. It's a remake to a classic and great game that many people didn't get to play, so Microsoft is letting them. Be thankful that this might even add to the Halo fanbase. It shouldn't matter if it's an exclusive or not, Remake or Remaster, It's still a game that will be loved by the Halo fans. :D

Let me guess if they changed more than the graphics you would complain that it doesn't play like the original,xxmatt125xx

hahaha pretty much this

[QUOTE="6matt6"]4 player co-op. Nuff' said. Jelley0

Too bad it's online Co-op only.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]4 player co-op. Nuff' said. Jelley0

Too bad it's online Co-op only.

and its 2 players, it should also be offline, they aren't removing anything

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="DOOOOOOOOOOPID"] armor abilities are garbage they should not have been put into classes, each character should have the ability to use armor/jetpack/sprint that's much more balanced and make's for crazier game.DOOOOOOOOOOPID

what has that got to do with anything?

this is probably the worst idea i have ever heard on SW. That would completely destroy everything CE MPs was about.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Halo Anniversery is the remake of a classic relic of gaming. Halo revolutionized the console industry and brought FPS forward as a mainstream genre for the console market. Halo was one of the first FPS's that debuted on consoles that was begged to be ported to PC and not the other way around. Well the Halo remake gives one a plethora of choices in how they would like to play the game. The Halo Remake actually visually updates the game. It allows you to switch to the old Halo though.JohnDead80

Do not even praise Golden Eye... It was a great game back in the day but it does not hold up. Halo still plays like a charm and has an epic campaign (one of my favorite singleplayer campaigns in a fps).

Also if Golden Eye was so great, why didn't PC fans beg for a port like they did for Halo. Golden Eye was a stepping stone to bringing PC quality fps to the console but Halo is the game that sealed the deal and thus revolutionized the industry.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Halo Anniversery is the remake of a classic relic of gaming. Halo revolutionized the console industry and brought FPS forward as a mainstream genre for the console market. Halo was one of the first FPS's that debuted on consoles that was begged to be ported to PC and not the other way around. Well the Halo remake gives one a plethora of choices in how they would like to play the game. The Halo Remake actually visually updates the game. It allows you to switch to the old Halo though.JohnDead80

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

[QUOTE="mztazmz"]

at $40 for one game, that sucks:?

at that price it should be a complete remaster, especially considering how many copies you know it will sell

MGS: Twin Snakes was a total remaster and that sold for $50 when it came out. that is how Halo SHOULD be done

vashkey

tbh i'm glad that the CE remake doesn't have AAs. Maybe Sprint would have worked, but still, CE was built without them.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Halo Anniversery is the remake of a classic relic of gaming. Halo revolutionized the console industry and brought FPS forward as a mainstream genre for the console market. Halo was one of the first FPS's that debuted on consoles that was begged to be ported to PC and not the other way around. Well the Halo remake gives one a plethora of choices in how they would like to play the game. The Halo Remake actually visually updates the game. It allows you to switch to the old Halo though.Banjo_Kongfooie

Do not even praise Golden Eye... It was a great game back in the day but it does not hold up. Halo still plays like a charm and has an epic campaign (one of my favorite singleplayer campaigns in a fps).

Also if Golden Eye was so great, why didn't PC fans beg for a port like they did for Halo. Golden Eye was a stepping stone to bringing PC quality fps to the console but Halo is the game that sealed the deal and thus revolutionized the industry.

I always thought perfect dark was bigger, like what other game lets you and a friend, play against each other in the single player campaign. other than being a fun FPS, it was special

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Halo Anniversery is the remake of a classic relic of gaming. Halo revolutionized the console industry and brought FPS forward as a mainstream genre for the console market. Halo was one of the first FPS's that debuted on consoles that was begged to be ported to PC and not the other way around. Well the Halo remake gives one a plethora of choices in how they would like to play the game. The Halo Remake actually visually updates the game. It allows you to switch to the old Halo though.gamer-adam1

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Halo Anniversery is the remake of a classic relic of gaming. Halo revolutionized the console industry and brought FPS forward as a mainstream genre for the console market. Halo was one of the first FPS's that debuted on consoles that was begged to be ported to PC and not the other way around. Well the Halo remake gives one a plethora of choices in how they would like to play the game. The Halo Remake actually visually updates the game. It allows you to switch to the old Halo though.gamer-adam1

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

It's a lose-lose w/ all you complainers out there, some want Halo Reach MP to not split the community, others wanted CE multiplayer, some of you want completely new gameplay and levels, others would take 343i's head off if the gameplay was changed the slightest. I'm fed up w/ all this complaining, enjoy the game and shut the **** up.-RocBoys9489-

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] Oh boy, I hope your being sarcastic. gamer-adam1

Do not even praise Golden Eye... It was a great game back in the day but it does not hold up. Halo still plays like a charm and has an epic campaign (one of my favorite singleplayer campaigns in a fps).

Also if Golden Eye was so great, why didn't PC fans beg for a port like they did for Halo. Golden Eye was a stepping stone to bringing PC quality fps to the console but Halo is the game that sealed the deal and thus revolutionized the industry.

I always thought perfect dark was bigger, like what other game lets you and a friend, play against each other in the single player campaign. other than being a fun FPS, it was special

Well Rare had more experience when PD came around so it was a better game and featured great graphics for its time.

Yes the N64 had some amazing FPS games. I really liked the Turok series and was pretty mad that the new Turok only had online multiplayer.

I really wish Rare would have made PD2 because Zero while a good game is not a good way to end a series. ( well technically begin if you go by the chronology).

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]It's a lose-lose w/ all you complainers out there, some want Halo Reach MP to not split the community, others wanted CE multiplayer, some of you want completely new gameplay and levels, others would take 343i's head off if the gameplay was changed the slightest. I'm fed up w/ all this complaining, enjoy the game and shut the **** up.JohnDead80

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] Oh boy, I hope your being sarcastic. JohnDead80

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

COD copies from Halo. So using your logic, everyone copies Halo.

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] Oh boy, I hope your being sarcastic. JohnDead80

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

you could atleast list how those games effected FPS

and also, CoD was 100% a different game, after Halo. CoD was heavily influenced from Halo.

when halo released it was the best FPS on consoles. the regeneration was basically copied by nearly every game since than, Halo also was the first to have a dedicated grenade and melee button. also Halo A.I had skill, unlike CoD.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

gamer-adam1

you could atleast list how those games effected FPS

and also, CoD was 100% a different game, after Halo. CoD was heavily influenced from Halo.

when halo released it was the best FPS on consoles. the regeneration was basically copied by nearly every game since than, Halo also was the first to have a dedicated grenade and melee button. also Halo A.I had skill, unlike CoD.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

if you can name 1 other console FPS that had bigger impact, go for it

gamedude234

COD copies from Halo. So using your logic, everyone copies Halo.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] GoldenEye and PC FPS's... Games are games, Halo didn't innovate squat, it made FPS gaming popular on the XBOX, not anywhere else... You guys give that game way to much credit. It was so big cause it was one of the only big xbox exclusives. COD's, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counter Strike, Team Fortress and a ton of other FPS titles had a way more important role in the FPS genre. Hardly any fps games copies Halo... If anything they copy COD a ton. Halo is to basic, theres nothing to steal. JohnDead80

COD copies from Halo. So using your logic, everyone copies Halo.

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

New engine (graphics are a lot better IDK what game you're talking about), orchestrated music, online co-op, Halo Reach MP with 7 maps (I think one is Firefight, and it's not the full Reach MP)... that's all I know.SaltyMeatballs

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="gamedude234"]

COD copies from Halo. So using your logic, everyone copies Halo.

gamedude234

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="gamedude234"]

COD copies from Halo. So using your logic, everyone copies Halo.

gamedude234

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

also instant grenade

and a MP rank, I think Halo2 came out before MV

and also the fast paced, past CoD games weren't fast

Goodness, people complain too much.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"]COD is fast paced twitch gun on gun battles,with a whole RPG stat aspect to it. Halo is slow team oriented floaty and not twitchy, nothing alike. The camparions is ridiculous. gamer-adam1

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

also instant grenade

and a MP rank, I think Halo2 came out before MV

and also the fast paced, past CoD games weren't fast

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

JohnDead80

also instant grenade

and a MP rank, I think Halo2 came out before MV

and also the fast paced, past CoD games weren't fast

look at the huge difference between COD 1 and 2. Why are they so different? because COD 1 was a PC game, and COD2 was a console game. What was the main FPS on console which was making huge improvements for console FPSs, showing that certain mechanics could work on consoles? Halo. IW saw this and implemented some of them in their games. Nothing wrong with that, it just shows Halos impact for consoles.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"]COD is fast paced twitch gun on gun battles,with a whole RPG stat aspect to it. Halo is slow team oriented floaty and not twitchy, nothing alike. The camparions is ridiculous. JohnDead80

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

you don't have to be the first to invent something to have it become popular. Halo had a impact, get over it.

and console gaming and pc gaming WERE separate, at the time, it isn't till this gen had so many games been also on the PC.

gaming has been around longer than the past 10 years

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

JohnDead80

also instant grenade

and a MP rank, I think Halo2 came out before MV

and also the fast paced, past CoD games weren't fast

were talking console FPSs.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

also instant grenade

and a MP rank, I think Halo2 came out before MV

and also the fast paced, past CoD games weren't fast

gamedude234

were talking console FPSs.