So the Halo Remake is really only a remaster? :(

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

things COD stole from Halo:

Regenrating health

Medals

2 weapon limit

instant melee

pretty big things if you ask me. And that's not all of them.

JohnDead80

also instant grenade

and a MP rank, I think Halo2 came out before MV

and also the fast paced, past CoD games weren't fast

The ONLY game to be inflenced from Mario Kart, is Blur

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[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] again those things weren't invented by halo, and game mechanics does not mean influenced. Your confusing the 2. Influenced is like saying Modnation racers was influenced by Mario Kart. Get it? That's clear as day. WHat your saying is like one game was influenced by another because it has jump... That's not how it works. JohnDead80

were talking console FPSs.

k answer this, what consoles have you've owned? if you say anything other than a PS3 or a Xbox360 I know you will be lying

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="gamedude234"]

were talking console FPSs.

gamer-adam1

k answer this, what consoles have you've owned? if you say anything other than a PS3 or a Xbox360 I know you will be lying

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]New engine (graphics are a lot better IDK what game you're talking about), orchestrated music, online co-op, Halo Reach MP with 7 maps (I think one is Firefight, and it's not the full Reach MP)... that's all I know.RR360DD

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

The game holds up extremely well. It doesn't need a lot of gameplay changes. And there will be classic MP, a la Combat Evolved, for those who want it.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

JohnDead80

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

Core gameplay is the same, everything else is new. Do some research mate.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]New engine (graphics are a lot better IDK what game you're talking about), orchestrated music, online co-op, Halo Reach MP with 7 maps (I think one is Firefight, and it's not the full Reach MP)... that's all I know.RR360DD

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

This, I would honestly pay $60 for the Halo Remake... I mean this is not a "remaster". I am glad they did not screw with the gameplay either because it is a classic game.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

RR360DD

Core gameplay is the same, everything else is new. Do some research mate.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] The campaign has not been rebuilt, it's the EXACT same campaign, using the same engine. Only graphics change. And as it stands it's only worth about 15$. If this were dony they'd have given you the original's MP and thrown in Halo 2 also. Then 40$ would be fair. JohnDead80

Core gameplay is the same, everything else is new. Do some research mate.

Yeah, like I said same gameplay. Thats what the fans want. Whats the point remaking the original if its going to be a different game? Might as well just make a sequel.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

This, I would honestly pay $60 for the Halo Remake... I mean this is not a "remaster". I am glad they did not screw with the gameplay either because it is a classic game.

it's one of the greatest games ever made with vastly improved graphics,what more do people want,it was one of the greatest experiences i ever had and i have been gaming for 26 years, i remember when i first played CE, for the first time in a very long time i was absolutely and totally engaged, it felt like the first time i played starglider on the zx spectrum,now that experience will be bought to a new generation of gamers with improved graphics to make it relevent again, i am even happier knowing the TC wil not be buying this game and i won't have to bump into him on MP.delta3074

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]New engine (graphics are a lot better IDK what game you're talking about), orchestrated music, online co-op, Halo Reach MP with 7 maps (I think one is Firefight, and it's not the full Reach MP)... that's all I know.RR360DD

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

When did I say that Halo: Combat Evolved wasn't revolutionary for it's time?

When did I ever complain about ODST's score?

Did you even read my post? I don't think a polished decade old campaign and a incomplete version of a multiplayer that's already been released a year ago warrant a price tag above $15. Anymore would just be ridiculous and shameless milkage. No need to get angry.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]it's one of the greatest games ever made with vastly improved graphics,what more do people want,it was one of the greatest experiences i ever had and i have been gaming for 26 years, i remember when i first played CE, for the first time in a very long time i was absolutely and totally engaged, it felt like the first time i played starglider on the zx spectrum,now that experience will be bought to a new generation of gamers with improved graphics to make it relevent again, i am even happier knowing the TC wil not be buying this game and i won't have to bump into him on MP.JohnDead80

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="delta3074"]it's one of the greatest games ever made with vastly improved graphics,what more do people want,it was one of the greatest experiences i ever had and i have been gaming for 26 years, i remember when i first played CE, for the first time in a very long time i was absolutely and totally engaged, it felt like the first time i played starglider on the zx spectrum,now that experience will be bought to a new generation of gamers with improved graphics to make it relevent again, i am even happier knowing the TC wil not be buying this game and i won't have to bump into him on MP.RR360DD

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Core gameplay is the same, everything else is new. Do some research mate.

RR360DD

Yeah, like I said same gameplay. Thats what the fans want. Whats the point remaking the original if its going to be a different game? Might as well just make a sequel.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

So it's basicaly a polished up decade old campaign, complimented with a incomplete multiplayer that was never very fun in the first place? Sounds neat... Seriously, this game shouldn't retail for more than $15 dollars. But then again ODST shouldn't have been over $20, and we all seen how much that retailed for.

Master_ShakeXXX

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

When did I say that Halo: Combat Evolved wasn't revolutionary for it's time?

When did I ever complain about ODST's score?

Did you even read my post? I don't think a polished decade old campaign and a incomplete version of a multiplayer that's already been released a year ago warrant a price tag above $15. Anymore would just be ridiculous and shameless milkage. No need to get angry.

You called it a "decade old campaign" implying it has aged badly, when it hasn't at all. Age is irrelevant to the discussion.

You said ODST shouldnt have retailed over $20 when it was an AAA game that delivered a brilliant new campaign, a brand new multiplayer mode and the entire Halo3 multiplayer. Maybe it wasn't worth the $60, but you are really reaching if you think thats worth $20. Idiots pay $60 for games like god of war 3 that provides a 9 hour campaign and nothing else.

Anyway no its not ridiculous or shameless milkage. This is just people who love finding new ways to bash the Halo franchise. halo > you.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"] I did mate, it's the exact same game, with the exact same, exact same gunplay etc. If it were a true remake it would be built from scratch and ther would be diferences in feel you couldn't get away from. That's a remake. This is a remaster. A glorified port. JohnDead80

Yeah, like I said same gameplay. Thats what the fans want. Whats the point remaking the original if its going to be a different game? Might as well just make a sequel.

Remaster definition:

To create a new version from the original. It may refer to audio, video or film remastering, in which the original recording or film is located and becomes the input to more modern or sophisticated editing and publishing processes. It may also refer to software remastering, which enhances a version of source code for distribution to a new audience.

This applys to games such as the Team Ico collection. They are the original games, they are simply remastered to HD with a stable framereate thanks to more powerful consoles.

Thats not what Halo anniversary is. It uses the original engine so that the gameplay is entact, but there is a new engine overlayed on top of that. A brand new engine built for the 360 with current gen graphics. So thats new assets built from the ground up, not old assets remastered in HD. The soundtrack has also been re-recorded, NOT remastered. And then theres the added features put into the game too such as skulls, terminals and online co op.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Actually no, Its a decade old classic campaign thats been rebuilt, and despite its age, is still better than 99% other FPSs out there. What you people seem to forget is that Halo is the game that launched dual analgoue shooters, its the game that started the console FPS craze and since then the controls have barely evolved at all. Halo being a 10 year old game means nothing, its a modern classic and not only holds up well to todays shooters but actually betters them.

You're talking out your *** if you think this should retail for $15. Do some research buddy before embarrassing yourself.

BTW, ODST. 9.0. Get over it.

RR360DD

When did I say that Halo: Combat Evolved wasn't revolutionary for it's time?

When did I ever complain about ODST's score?

Did you even read my post? I don't think a polished decade old campaign and a incomplete version of a multiplayer that's already been released a year ago warrant a price tag above $15. Anymore would just be ridiculous and shameless milkage. No need to get angry.

You called it a "decade old campaign" implying it has aged badly, when it hasn't at all. Age is irrelevant to the discussion.

You said ODST shouldnt have retailed over $20 when it was an AAA game that delivered a brilliant new campaign, a brand new multiplayer mode and the entire Halo3 multiplayer. Maybe it wasn't worth the $60, but you are really reaching if you think thats worth $20. Idiots pay $60 for games like god of war 3 that provides a 9 hour campaign and nothing else.

Anyway no its not ridiculous or shameless milkage. This is just people who love finding new ways to bash the Halo franchise. halo > you.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm just a mindless fanboy bashing Halo for no reason. Look at my ratings - Halo: Combat Evolved is one of my highest rated games, and I also gave Halo 2 a 9.0. I have been a fan of the franchise for a very long time, but that doesn't make me a sap who will just mindlessly hand over my money for any old game with a new coat of paint that's released.

Let me put it this way - Resident Evil 4 is my favorite game of all time, but if Capcom "remade" it with little to no improvements other than technical aspects, I wouldn't pay over $20 for it. That's just how I am. The quality of Halo ODST isn't the issue. In terms of content it was severely lacking and I found the original $60 pricetag to be ridiculous.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

When did I say that Halo: Combat Evolved wasn't revolutionary for it's time?

When did I ever complain about ODST's score?

Did you even read my post? I don't think a polished decade old campaign and a incomplete version of a multiplayer that's already been released a year ago warrant a price tag above $15. Anymore would just be ridiculous and shameless milkage. No need to get angry.

Master_ShakeXXX

You called it a "decade old campaign" implying it has aged badly, when it hasn't at all. Age is irrelevant to the discussion.

You said ODST shouldnt have retailed over $20 when it was an AAA game that delivered a brilliant new campaign, a brand new multiplayer mode and the entire Halo3 multiplayer. Maybe it wasn't worth the $60, but you are really reaching if you think thats worth $20. Idiots pay $60 for games like god of war 3 that provides a 9 hour campaign and nothing else.

Anyway no its not ridiculous or shameless milkage. This is just people who love finding new ways to bash the Halo franchise. halo > you.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm just a mindless fanboy bashing Halo for no reason. Look at my ratings - Halo: Combat Evolved is one of my highest rated games, and I also gave Halo 2 a 9.0. I have been a fan of the franchise for a very long time, but that doesn't make me a sap who will just mindlessly hand over my money for any old game with a new coat of paint that's released.

Let me put it this way - Resident Evil 4 is my favorite game of all time, but if Capcom "remade" it with little to no improvements other than technical aspects, I wouldn't pay over $20 for it. That's just how I am. The quality of Halo ODST isn't the issue. In terms of content it was severely lacking and I found the original $60 pricetag to be ridiculous.

And I find your $20 estimation ridiculous.

If you dont think the remake is worth it, then dont buy it. Is it worth it for people who havent played the original? Absolutely. $40 for this game is not overpriced, its not a simple remaster like RE4 HD.

You can't change word definitions to suit your needs lol. They are universal. Your simply using the wrong word to describe the Halo remaster. Not a remake, a remaster. And before you get all defensive research it, they even use the word remastered. and not remade. JohnDead80

You are reiterating over and over, and just running around in circles arguing semantics. I think this thread isn't going anywhere at this point so... LOCK.