So, what's with Gamespot's love fest with RDR?

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#101 StealthMonkey4
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Perhaps you could maybe... try the game for yourself..?:roll:

I know it's a pretty absurd idea, but really you should.

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#102 jg4xchamp
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It demolishes ever single 2D platformer this generation

foxhound_fox

No. Super Meat Boy exists, and it's level design/controls are sublime on a level Retro wished they had with Donkey Kong.

DKCReturns is good, but it's not even in Super Meat Boy's league as a 2-D platformer. Not in level design, especially not in controls(that game may legit be the only time I've ever been hella impressed by controls), and most defnitely not in content and variety. I'll bet a house on you agreeing if you play Super Meat Boy. A house damn it.

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#103 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

It demolishes ever single 2D platformer this generation

jg4xchamp

No. Super Meat Boy exists, and it's level design/controls are sublime on a level Retro wished they had with Donkey Kong.

DKCReturns is good, but it's not even in Super Meat Boy's league as a 2-D platformer. Not in level design, especially not in controls(that game may legit be the only time I've ever been hella impressed by controls), and most defnitely not in content and variety. I'll bet a house on you agreeing if you play Super Meat Boy. A house damn it.

SMB should have been GOTY. seriously.

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#104 jg4xchamp
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SMG2 doesn't even come close IMO, but I'm reasonable and I can understand how you could argue that, so that one may just come down to opinion, although there's no denying RDR blows it out of the water in terms of narrative and scale.

But DKC, really? The 8.5? The game that could have easily been passed off as a 1200MSP game on XBLA? The thing is, I'm not sure if you have played it, but if you have I don't even see how you could even think that. DKC is just a simple platformer, really nothing to special and nothing people are going to remember for long. RDR is simply amazing, and there's a reason why it sweeping so many awards and won so many GOTY's whereas no popular gaming sites are putting up DKC for even a nomination.

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A rather meaningless advantage when you take into account. That scale is a matter of the genre difference and neither an advantage/disadvantage. It's just a structural difference. That and lol narrative. I'm sorry but being less crappy when compared to a Mario storyline isn't impressive. From obvious writing flaws to the massive filler that is Mexico RDR didn't really have a narrative worth praising. That and it hardly means something when the actual heart, soul, and backbone of a game(IE the gameplay/gamedesign) is so ****ing sloppy

Congrats on sharing an opinion that was a dead give away you didn't even play the game.

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#105 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

It demolishes ever single 2D platformer this generation

starwarsjunky

No. Super Meat Boy exists, and it's level design/controls are sublime on a level Retro wished they had with Donkey Kong.

DKCReturns is good, but it's not even in Super Meat Boy's league as a 2-D platformer. Not in level design, especially not in controls(that game may legit be the only time I've ever been hella impressed by controls), and most defnitely not in content and variety. I'll bet a house on you agreeing if you play Super Meat Boy. A house damn it.

SMB should have been GOTY. seriously.

I thought it was the best platformer this year

inb4 Super Mario Galaxy 2 objections.

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#106 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="N7v1K0"]

Red Dead was a great game, but IMO ME2 was much better

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Agree completely. RDR was really a one and done.

In theory so is ME 2 : P
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#107 racing1750
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I enjoyed it, but GOTY? Nah.
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#108 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]No. Super Meat Boy exists, and it's level design/controls are sublime on a level Retro wished they had with Donkey Kong.

DKCReturns is good, but it's not even in Super Meat Boy's league as a 2-D platformer. Not in level design, especially not in controls(that game may legit be the only time I've ever been hella impressed by controls), and most defnitely not in content and variety. I'll bet a house on you agreeing if you play Super Meat Boy. A house damn it.

jg4xchamp

SMB should have been GOTY. seriously.

I thought it was the best platformer this year

inb4 Super Mario Galaxy 2 objections.

without a doubt the best platformer this year. there's no question. best game this year in ANY genre, imo. but i know that a 2d game isn't gonna get goty :(

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#109 Birdy09
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Gamespot likes Movie-like games with guns, its one of the most casual and chavtastic sites out there where advertising is everything, only well known games are worth anything and retail box actual means squat.
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#110 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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i think rockstar gives good money to gaming sites

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Same thing happened with Assassin's Creed II: Ubisoft threating at sites who wouldn't score their game as a 9+... lame if you ask me, specially when the game they're delivering is actually good!

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#111 blackace
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Red Dead Redemption is a great game. I think a lot of fanboys are upset because they wanted an exclusive game to get GoTY like last year. That wasn't going to happen. Even if RDR didn't get GoTY, Mass Effect 2 probably would have. Starcraft 2 has a shot as well.

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#112 lhughey
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it was much better that GTA imo
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#113 Heil68
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I'm having a good time with it thus far.
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#114 Master_ShakeXXX
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Congrats to RDR!!! I FINALY get a chance to say that! It wasn't my favorite game this year, but it was still superb and it's win was well deserved. I'm just happy Vanquish got a lot of nominations :D

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#115 SILVER_X_AMMO
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when u get to the ending and how it all went down u will see

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#116 tagyhag
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Gamespot has had a love affair with Rockstar for quite some time now.
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#117 ZEYAAM898
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Gamespot has had a love affair with Rockstar for quite some time now. tagyhag

yeah take this for an instance http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/special-achievement/index.html?page=25

Mass effect 2 got 50% overall votes but noooo bcz gamespot thought that we are from other planet (NOTE: VIEW MY PROFILE AND MY 2ND BLOG (WHICH I WROTE PREVIOUS YEAR WHEN GTA CW RULED) SHOWS THAT LINKS MAY HAVE BEEN UPDATED BUT GAMESPOT DID THE SAME AS THEY DID inTHE PREVIOUS YEAR. R* OWNS GS

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#118 foxhound_fox
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I don't think DKC is anything special.ColdP1zza

Ah, the "My opinion is fact, so you are wrong." argument. Care to explain why it isn't anything special? Because I can go on and on about all the varied level design, genious platforming elements, Miyamoto moments that make you go "wow" (and this is a Retro game) and just the overall level of polish that beats out almost every other game made this gen... aside from perhaps Mario Galaxy 1/2 and NSMB Wii.

No. Super Meat Boy exists, and it's level design/controls are sublime on a level Retro wished they had with Donkey Kong.

DKCReturns is good, but it's not even in Super Meat Boy's league as a 2-D platformer. Not in level design, especially not in controls(that game may legit be the only time I've ever been hella impressed by controls), and most defnitely not in content and variety. I'll bet a house on you agreeing if you play Super Meat Boy. A house damn it.

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Using the s***ty d-pad makes it almost unplayable... and the analogue stick doesn't have the level of accuracy required for the styIe of platforming. And I personally thought the SMB platforming was waaaaaaay too floaty, and the level design (as I could see in the demo) is quite behind both NSMB and DKCR.

I thought VVVVVV was a far better old-school 2D platformer than Meat Boy. It also felt far too much like N+.

when u get to the ending and how it all went down u will see

SILVER_X_AMMO


One of the most anti-climactic endings in any game... ever. A dull bush on the side of a dull river isn't "climactic" by defintion.

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#119 kozzy1234
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I mean is this game really THAT good? In my opinion it won so many rewards that it was just ridiculous. I mean best PS3 and 360 game?? With all of the good exclusives that came out this year for each platform and they ended up picking the same multiplat?? I'm sorry but I can't see this game being that good. I haven't played it but that's mostly because it looked boring when I watched my friend play for a couple hours. Sorry but no GOTY should have simplistic "fetch x number of beaver hides" quests.

starwarsgeek112

You have not played it yet.... read what you just wrote and then go play the game.

Why do people speak on something they have not played or tried?

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#120 darkstar0155
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i 100% agree with this.. smb is pure gaming awesomeness
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#121 darkstar0155
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i 100% agree with this.. smb is pure gaming awesomenessdarkstar0155
as in super meat boy
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[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]
Ah, the "My opinion is fact, so you are wrong." argument. Care to explain why it isn't anything special? Because I can go on and on about all the varied level design, genious platforming elements, Miyamoto moments that make you go "wow" (and this is a Retro game) and just the overall level of polish that beats out almost every other game made this gen... aside from perhaps Mario Galaxy 1/2 and NSMB Wii.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]No. Super Meat Boy exists, and it's level design/controls are sublime on a level Retro wished they had with Donkey Kong.

DKCReturns is good, but it's not even in Super Meat Boy's league as a 2-D platformer. Not in level design, especially not in controls(that game may legit be the only time I've ever been hella impressed by controls), and most defnitely not in content and variety. I'll bet a house on you agreeing if you play Super Meat Boy. A house damn it.

foxhound_fox


Using the s***ty d-pad makes it almost unplayable... and the analogue stick doesn't have the level of accuracy required for the styIe of platforming. And I personally thought the SMB platforming was waaaaaaay too floaty, and the level design (as I could see in the demo) is quite behind both NSMB and DKCR.

I thought VVVVVV was a far better old-school 2D platformer than Meat Boy. It also felt far too much like N+.

when u get to the ending and how it all went down u will see

SILVER_X_AMMO


One of the most anti-climactic endings in any game... ever. A dull bush on the side of a dull river isn't "climactic" by defintion.

"Wow" moments in DKC? Hmm I wonder why GS gave RDR the "Oh Snap" emblem whereas DKC didn't?

Also, SMB IMO is the best platformer this year, and had great level design and every major critic would agree. Also according to the rules of SW we use GS's reviews. Now lets see whats better, SMB's "Incredible level design" or DKC's "Clever level design"? Also the analog stick is very accurate, oh wait a minute. Which game was said to have "precise controls" and won the sharp controls emblem whereas DKC did not?

And as for the ending of RDR, from the looks of things you just plain didn't understand the narrative. The ending was absolutely perfect for the narrative of the game, something that both SMG2 and DKC lack altogether and every major critic would agree.

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[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

SMG2 doesn't even come close IMO, but I'm reasonable and I can understand how you could argue that, so that one may just come down to opinion, although there's no denying RDR blows it out of the water in terms of narrative and scale.

But DKC, really? The 8.5? The game that could have easily been passed off as a 1200MSP game on XBLA? The thing is, I'm not sure if you have played it, but if you have I don't even see how you could even think that. DKC is just a simple platformer, really nothing to special and nothing people are going to remember for long. RDR is simply amazing, and there's a reason why it sweeping so many awards and won so many GOTY's whereas no popular gaming sites are putting up DKC for even a nomination.

jg4xchamp

A rather meaningless advantage when you take into account. That scale is a matter of the genre difference and neither an advantage/disadvantage. It's just a structural difference. That and lol narrative. I'm sorry but being less crappy when compared to a Mario storyline isn't impressive. From obvious writing flaws to the massive filler that is Mexico RDR didn't really have a narrative worth praising. That and it hardly means something when the actual heart, soul, and backbone of a game(IE the gameplay/gamedesign) is so ****ing sloppy

Congrats on sharing an opinion that was a dead give away you didn't even play the game.

If the writing flaws were so obvious would you care to point them out?

And if the narrative was bad and so was the writing then why did it garner such high praise for its story, writing, and narrative with every major critic?

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#124 foxhound_fox
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"Wow" moments in DKC? Hmm I wonder why GS gave RDR the "Oh Snap" emblem whereas DKC didn't?

Also, SMB IMO is the best platformer this year, and had great level design and every major critic would agree. Also according to the rules of SW we use GS's reviews. Now lets see whats better, SMB's "Incredible level design" or DKC's "Clever level design"? Also the analog stick is very accurate, oh wait a minute. Which game was said to have "precise controls" and won the sharp controls emblem whereas DKC did not?

And as for the ending of RDR, from the looks of things you just plain didn't understand the narrative. The ending was absolutely perfect for the narrative of the game, something that both SMG2 and DKC lack altogether and every major critic would agree.

ColdP1zza


Ah... so now GS represents your opinion. I'm glad you can think for yourself and not rely on other people to back up your arguments.

I understood the narrative perfectly. It was crap. It was written in a fashion that no author would ever put into a book, because you can't just keep introducing new new antagonists every few chapters, and you can't have events that should come at the beginning (meeting Marston's family) come at the end.

I have my opinion. If you can't respect that, then fine, keep telling yourself you are right. Because at the end of the day, to me, RDR will still be one of the most disappointing and most boring games I've played this gen, while all the experiences I've been having on the Wii have been liberating gaming wise.

Is it because you have a subconscious dislike of the game, or didn't feel as impressed with it as you thought you would that you have to condescend towards me and my gaming choices and live in denial yourself? I think DKCR and NSMBW were some of the best games I've experienced this year, and this gen... and I thought Super Meat Boy was a boring flash game that is being far too overly praised (much like Limbo).

I used to be just like you a couple years ago, until I discovered that there is no such thing as a "right" opinion. Enjoyment is entirely subjective, and if I enjoy one of the objectively worst games ever made (I loved the ReBoot PS game despite it getting 4.1 on Gamespot), then I enjoy it and that is just a fact everyone has to deal with. It doesn't make me wrong, just weird.