So, which Elder Scrolls game is the best?

By far Skyrim. I started with Oblivion and that game stole countless days of my life. To warm up for Skyrim I purchased Morrowind off of Steam and used the overhaul mod to really make it shine. But Morrowind, is without a doubt, the worst ES game of the three. The game basically dared me to have fun, constantly trying to make me not enjoy myself. I found the world drab and uninteresting; I liked Oblivion's world much better, and Skyrim's is the best.. I levelled up a few times, and completely lost interest. Good riddance to that mess of a game. I will honestly never know what the fans of Morrowind see in that game.

MLBknights58

Too early to tell I think many (myself included) are still in the "honeymoon phase" when it comes to Skyrim but with that said it's one of the best in the series for sure.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"] They probably like RPGs.

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

By far Skyrim. I started with Oblivion and that game stole countless days of my life. To warm up for Skyrim I purchased Morrowind off of Steam and used the overhaul mod to really make it shine. But Morrowind, is without a doubt, the worst ES game of the three. The game basically dared me to have fun, constantly trying to make me not enjoy myself. I found the world drab and uninteresting; I liked Oblivion's world much better, and Skyrim's is the best.. I levelled up a few times, and completely lost interest. Good riddance to that mess of a game. I will honestly never know what the fans of Morrowind see in that game.

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Daggerfall>Morrowind>garbage>Skyrim>Oblivoius

Daggerfall: One of the biggest gaming worlds, at a large amount of skills, buggy, but grand. Diseases can kill you.
Morrowind: Best story in the series. Also the most fun world to explore. With an excellent atmosphere and tons of INTERESTING content.
Skyrim: Godawful UI, terrible optimization, awful console port all around, combat sucks except for magic, they made dragons boring, terribad writing, Dovahkiin is the biggest idiot I have ever seen, bland environments, stupidly designed perks, skills feeling pointless, boring level design with dungeons being nothing but big corridors. However, it is still relatively enjoyable, but not because it is a good game. Skyrim is so bad that it becomes good. The dialogue is laughably bad, the bugs are amusing and its just funny laughing at how poorly designed teh game is overall.
Oblivious: Completely generic fantasy, worst combat system EVER (yes worse than Morrowinds), annoying characters and like 4 voice actors. I want to forget this game.

Arena: Didnt play this one.

KiZZo1

About the dungeons. I think you are suffering from a severe case of nostalgia. Here's what Daggerfall dungeons look like. In Dagerfall and Morrowind they are absolutely featureless corridors meeting at right angles. The dungeons in Skyrim are the best by far, I was actually surprised by their variety and design. Some are better than others of course, the first one in the main quest was probably the best I've seen so far ...

They're more visually varied in Skyrim but they're extremely linear hack and slash sessions in that game. You go from point A to B killing everything in sight most of the time and then conveniately get presented with a shortcut back to the surface. In Daggerfall there were multiple routes and tactics used to traverse them (like leaving 'breadcrumbs'). And the dungeon sounds and atmosphere was by far the most unnerving in the series, it was damn scary and claustrophobic being in them, running into an ancient lich and having it chase you through the halls is heart attack inducing.

Skyrim is the best elder scrolls game i've played minus some problems like the interface. That said i still like Morrowind's world a lot better, i found it more immersive and interesting than oblivion or skyrim's.

ferret-gamer

Skyrim is the best one. Followed by Oblivion. The rest simply unplayable.

glez13

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

Morrowind>Daggerfall>Skyrim>Oblivion>Arena.

Morrowind was the perfect compromise between the unforgiving cRPG nature of Daggerfall and the mainstream, streamlined appeal of Oblivion/Skyrim.

dommeus

[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="KalDurenik"] This. The thing is that most people will say skyrim now... And in a few weeks people will start to notice lots of problems with the game. Not saying Skyrim is a bad game hell its better then oblivion. But its not the "future" of gaming or the super awesome game of doom. It have lots of problems and some of the major ones are the lack of unique models / objects and textures making exploring abit pointless as most areas look overall the same and the textures suck on PC :(. Overall i dont like the dumbing down of the game, ui, skills / stats system and well how horribly bad the magic system is.DragonfireXZ95

Also, you do realize that the combat system can be completely overhauled with mods?

I found the world drab and uninteresting; I liked Oblivion's world much better.

MLBknights58

I've only played Morrowwind, Oblivion and Skyrim.....

for me its Skyrim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morrowwind > Oblivion

I'm extremely disappointed in you, System Warriors. I thought for sure that Morrowind would have the majority vote. :(Juggernaut140

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I'm extremely disappointed in you, System Warriors. I thought for sure that Morrowind would have the majority vote. :(peterw007

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

I'm pretty much still on the umm... Ground Rim :twisted: - Ask again in about a month or so when I'm sure to be up there in the Skyrim. :P

For Daggerfall, i'm waiting on the XL engine (basically a fuse between the DaggerXL and another one) to be finished, its a source port that'll make the game vastly enhanced with better graphics, and make it fully playable on any OS, it's still in alpha at the moment. Wen that's finished i'm going to play this game, i heard the dungeons were incredibly vast.

Morrowind + the Brrorowind overhaul was fantastic, i didn't mind the combat. It has the most unique world, and the best lore in the series, by far. Still gotta get some free time on my hands to play around with Oblivion some more and find some recommended mods to make it perfect..

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

peterw007

Bullcrap.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I'm extremely disappointed in you, System Warriors. I thought for sure that Morrowind would have the majority vote. :(peterw007

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

Or wait a couple of weeks to let the Skyrim hype machine die down and make apparent game design flaws which were previously drowned out in a sea of anticipation and gushing fanboys. I still remember when people said Oblivion was the greatest RPG of all time.

skyrim>oblivion>others>morrowind

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I'm extremely disappointed in you, System Warriors. I thought for sure that Morrowind would have the majority vote. :(hypoty

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

Or wait a couple of weeks to let the Skyrim hype machine die down and make apparent game design flaws which were previously drowned out in a sea of anticipation and gushing fanboys. I still remember when people said Oblivion was the greatest RPG of all time.

Still people that think that now, though Oblivion was bashed to kingdom come since it was released in 2006 by a lot of Morrowind and RPGs fans in general. Mostly because there were a ton of stuff Todd hyped that weren't seen in the vanilla product, aswell as the AI being piss. I barely see any negative reactions from fans with Skyrim, i don't think it's gonna be the same deal.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

Lucianu

Bullcrap.

What are you talking about? People always forget how incredible Morrowind is...until the hype for the newest Elder Scrolls boils down.

I wasn't trying to rag on the game or anything...I've played Morrowind since 2002 and I still like to play it from time to time.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Just wait a year until nostalgia kicks in. Then, suddenly Morrowind becomes a masterpiece once again.

Lucianu

Or wait a couple of weeks to let the Skyrim hype machine die down and make apparent game design flaws which were previously drowned out in a sea of anticipation and gushing fanboys. I still remember when people said Oblivion was the greatest RPG of all time.

Still people that think that now, though Oblivion was bashed to kingdom come since it was released in 2006 by a lot of Morrowind and RPGs fans in general. Mostly because there were a ton of stuff Todd hyped that weren't seen in the vanilla product, aswell as the AI being piss. I barely see any negative reactions from fans with Skyrim, i don't think it's gonna be the same deal.

There's already people complaining on the Bethesda forums about missing features and items, but yeah people have been accustomed to this type of game design with Fallout 3, NV and Oblivion, so the backlash won't be as bad. Still, hype can change someones perception, Oblivion bashing didn't really start until a few months after release.

What are you talking about? People always forget how incredible Morrowind is...until the hype for the newest Elder Scrolls boils down.

I wasn't trying to rag on the game or anything...I've played Morrowind since 2002 and I still like to play it from time to time.

peterw007

That barely resembles what you wrote , i thought you meant that nostalgic feelings would be the only reason for anyone to remember Morrowind, which ain't cool.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

What are you talking about? People always forget how incredible Morrowind is...until the hype for the newest Elder Scrolls boils down.

I wasn't trying to rag on the game or anything...I've played Morrowind since 2002 and I still like to play it from time to time.

Lucianu

That barely resembles what you wrote , i thought you meant that nostalgic feelings would be the only reason for anyone to remember Morrowind, which ain't cool.

By "nostalgia" I meant "remembering the past."

People forget about nostalgia when the newest shiny thing is in front of them.

Case in point: Modern Warfare 3. People completely forget about Modern Warfare 1 and buy the third installment...until nostalgia kicks in and then Modern Warfare 1 becomes a masterpiece again.

Sorry for misleading you...I've always loved Morrowind.

By "nostalgia" I meant "remembering the past."

People forget about nostalgia when the newest shiny thing is in front of them.

Case in point: Modern Warfare 3. People completely forget about Modern Warfare 1 and buy the third installment...until nostalgia kicks in and then Modern Warfare 1 becomes a masterpiece again.

Sorry for misleading you...I've always loved Morrowind.

peterw007

My bad, i understand what you're talking about now.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Daggerfall>Morrowind>garbage>Skyrim>Oblivoius

Daggerfall: One of the biggest gaming worlds, at a large amount of skills, buggy, but grand. Diseases can kill you.
Morrowind: Best story in the series. Also the most fun world to explore. With an excellent atmosphere and tons of INTERESTING content.
Skyrim: Godawful UI, terrible optimization, awful console port all around, combat sucks except for magic, they made dragons boring, terribad writing, Dovahkiin is the biggest idiot I have ever seen, bland environments, stupidly designed perks, skills feeling pointless, boring level design with dungeons being nothing but big corridors. However, it is still relatively enjoyable, but not because it is a good game. Skyrim is so bad that it becomes good. The dialogue is laughably bad, the bugs are amusing and its just funny laughing at how poorly designed teh game is overall.
Oblivious: Completely generic fantasy, worst combat system EVER (yes worse than Morrowinds), annoying characters and like 4 voice actors. I want to forget this game.

Arena: Didnt play this one.

KiZZo1

About the dungeons. I think you are suffering from a severe case of nostalgia. Here's what Daggerfall dungeons look like. In Dagerfall and Morrowind they are absolutely featureless corridors meeting at right angles. The dungeons in Skyrim are the best by far, I was actually surprised by their variety and design. Some are better than others of course, the first one in the main quest was probably the best I've seen so far ...

I didnt play Daggerfall until some time after Fallout 3. So I doubt Nostalgia has anything to do with it.

Skyrim is the very definition of linear dungeons. Heck calling them dungeons would be an insult to the term dungeon. So I will just call them corridors.

Corridors in skyrim are as linear as CoD. And they drag on and on and on. Pitting you against the same enemies while occationally even up the game with poorly designed "puzzles". It is like the devs put no thought into designing them and it shows, with all the enemies just paste here and there without any proper thought. Not to mention, it seems in many cases the same tilesets are the tilesets are usually recycled. Outside of the dwarven area I havent seen any corridor that I felt was out of the ordinary.

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"][QUOTE="dommeus"]My main issue with the combat is that there is a complete lack of dodge or roll, meaning that melee contests turn into a 'who has the most health' battle, rather than who has the most skill.Planeforger

Are you guys playing on Master? The bar fights for me were pretty cool. Since there's no guard button (WTF Bethesda? I can't block hand to hand :lol:) I would get smashed trying to straight up brawl with the patrons. The difficulty simple gave them too much health and damage bonuses for me to get up with. So each time I would have to kite and bait them around the tavern, getting close enough for them to try to hit me, and quickly doling out one or two quick punches before darting back out of range. Whittle them down to about 1/4 health suffering only minor damage myself, and then go balls out in the final seconds as a battle of attrition heavily in my favor.

I felt like Ali in those moments :D

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

By far Skyrim. I started with Oblivion and that game stole countless days of my life. To warm up for Skyrim I purchased Morrowind off of Steam and used the overhaul mod to really make it shine. But Morrowind, is without a doubt, the worst ES game of the three. The game basically dared me to have fun, constantly trying to make me not enjoy myself. I found the world drab and uninteresting; I liked Oblivion's world much better, and Skyrim's is the best.. I levelled up a few times, and completely lost interest. Good riddance to that mess of a game. I will honestly never know what the fans of Morrowind see in that game.

FrozenLiquid

And are full of Nostalgia.shakmaster13

You either like Morrowind or not, you don't have to assume why people like something that you don't.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]sorry to hijack ur thread for a sec charizard but i gots a question :P Would i like skyrim if i kinda got bored of fallout 3 and didnt like the combat and i didnt like the VATS system?argetlam00

Skyrim has no VATS as it isn't a Fallout game. As for combat, it's a lot more focused on close-quarters encounters and I feel it's a lot more exciting. The game also has a whole hell of a lot more things to do.

But does Skyrim have the radio? ITS THREE DOG!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

Wait what? Skyrim dominating the poll? Oblivion next to no votes? = /

Where's the Fallout 3 option?

[spoiler] :P :P :P [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

By far Skyrim. I started with Oblivion and that game stole countless days of my life. To warm up for Skyrim I purchased Morrowind off of Steam and used the overhaul mod to really make it shine. But Morrowind, is without a doubt, the worst ES game of the three. The game basically dared me to have fun, constantly trying to make me not enjoy myself. I found the world drab and uninteresting; I liked Oblivion's world much better, and Skyrim's is the best.. I levelled up a few times, and completely lost interest. Good riddance to that mess of a game. I will honestly never know what the fans of Morrowind see in that game.

shakmaster13

So far I am saying Skyrim! It has done everything right, got unique dungeons, got no level scaling,great combat, amazing world to explore ect... It's amazing !

Morrowind would be my second followed by Oblivion.

question for those who got skyrim and oblivion. Am I going to like Skyrim if I TOTALLY loathed Oblivion?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

By far Skyrim. I started with Oblivion and that game stole countless days of my life. To warm up for Skyrim I purchased Morrowind off of Steam and used the overhaul mod to really make it shine. But Morrowind, is without a doubt, the worst ES game of the three. The game basically dared me to have fun, constantly trying to make me not enjoy myself. I found the world drab and uninteresting; I liked Oblivion's world much better, and Skyrim's is the best.. I levelled up a few times, and completely lost interest. Good riddance to that mess of a game. I will honestly never know what the fans of Morrowind see in that game.

shakmaster13

This thread pisses me off.RobboElRobbo

question for those who got skyrim and oblivion. Am I going to like Skyrim if I TOTALLY loathed Oblivion?

GiveMeSomething

Skyrim>Morrowind>getting aids>Oblivion

spookykid143

Well... that certainly puts Oblivion in perspective.

Let the Skyrim hype die down. Do this poll again in a year and Morrowind will be number 1 again.

Morrowind for me thus far, but I've only seen the first couple minutes of Skyrim to insure it installed correctly. Got a couple games to still get through and I know once I get going on Skyrim I'm not gonna get anything else done with other games for some time.

question for those who got skyrim and oblivion. Am I going to like Skyrim if I TOTALLY loathed Oblivion?

GiveMeSomething

I couldn't make it past the ten-hour mark in Oblivion and so far I'm loving Skyrim. If you go through this thread, you'll notice a lot of people who like Skyrim didn't care for Oblivion.

Let the Skyrim hype die down. Do this poll again in a year and Morrowind will be number 1 again.

evilross

I love them all but Morrowind will probably always be my favourite (most likely due to nostalgia).

defently skyrim followed by morrowind

bethesda out did themselves with skyrim. its easily their best game. better than any of the elderscrolls games and fallout 3. (tho i still prefer the world of fallout)

a truely tremendous game.

FUS RO DAH!