So why exactly do you pay for Xbox Live?

Instead of just using a PC? Facebook? Netflix? Both are on your PC and to no real surprise are better to use on there.

"but but I wanna use teh TV and hooking a PC up to one is so inconvenient!" - Yeah sure is hard plugging that cord into the back of your PC. Whew, what a workout.

"okay smartass. But now I have to use a keyboard and mouse, thats really inconvenient!" - Actually if you're so inclined there's plenty of ways to use a controller to do... well, everything. And heck if you have a wireless keyboard now typing is actually easier than a console.

"okay but the PC costs so much more!" - Sure, initially. But your games cost less and you're not spending a dime on XBL. Say you buy 10 games brand new a year. Thats $100 saved on PC. Say you've had it for 3 years, seems reasonable. Thats $300 less in cost, plus we'll be nice and say about $150 for XBL over those 3 years. Thats $450 you didn't spend. Golly gee whiz, if you add that to the price of a 360 its... more than a PC would cost you :|

"but then you still have to buy the TV or monitor. HA!" - What, you wouldn't have to for the 360?

"Okay fine, but what about the games. Isn't that what really matters?" - Yeah, if you prefer the much smaller and more expensive selection, I guess so.

So you see. In the long run, you're just wasting money. Your games cost more. You're paying MORE to use your own internet (on top of additional fees for using things like Netflix). You're literally letting Microsoft charge you to do things you... could already do.

Oh and inb4elitism. Truth isn't elitism :)

...because 360 owners don't get much a choice?

To play my Xbox 360 games online. Though TF2 is starting to take all of my time imho.

:P

I also get someone else to pay for my Xbox live fees. :P

"but but I wanna use teh TV and hooking a PC up to one is so inconvenient!" - Yeah sure is hard plugging that cord into the back of your PC. Whew, what a workout.

Skittles_McGee

Nah, theres no way im lugging this thing downstairs. I dont own a 25m hdmi cable. I dont have anywhere in my living room to put a kb and mouse.

The only reason anyone pays for Live is so they can play online with their xbox360. The rest of the clap trap in your post had nothing to do with your question.

They pay to play games online that they already paid full price for, duh!

Paying for xbl doent bother me much. EA's online pass bs makes my blood boil though.

I get good deals on it anyway, so it's not bad. I've never paid full price for Gold. Doolz2024

what you wrote has little todo with the title of your topic.

Anyway, I don't pay for Xbox LIve cause I'm not interested in what they offer.

I use consoles, because there are actually many great games that are not on Pc, mostly genre-representative games.

On the other hand, there are genres that play best on Pc, such as Fps's, rts's, rpg's, adventures, rpg's.

1.Dont have a pc in my room.
2.Its a all in comprehensive service that is still far superior in features and stability then psn.
3.Microsoft actually takes care of hackers and cheaters and they for the most part stay down...Psn not so much when they do get em they are back within a few days if not less.
4.did I mention its a comprehensive all inclusive that keeps getting updated to be better? dont get so much on psn where most updates do much of anything.
5.I've been on it for a long long time..will be comming up on 10 years november of 2011 and it hasn't disapointed me very often.
6.Its still superior to PSN specially in the realm of p2p connections Sony literally does nothing for developers in this area which is why ps3 p2p is inferior. Dedicated servers are the same though.


you may have noticed my argument is psn vs xbox live...this is becasue your initial arguement is spotty and lame at best you are comparing a service to an entire pc system you brought up so many arguments that have nothing to do with a comparison between online services.

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]I get good deals on it anyway, so it's not bad. I've never paid full price for Gold. Locutus_Picard

1.Dont have a pc in my room.
2.Its a all in comprehensive service that is still far superior in features and stability then psn.
3.Microsoft actually takes care of hackers and cheaters and they for the most part stay down...Psn not so much when they do get em they are back within a few days if not less.
4.did I mention its a comprehensive all inclusive that keeps getting updated to be better? dont get so much on psn where most updates do much of anything.

5.I've been on it for a long long time..will be comming up on 10 years november of 2011 and it hasn't disapointed me very often.

6.Its still superior to PSN specially in the realm of p2p connections Sony literally does nothing for developers in this area which is why ps3 p2p is inferior. Dedicated servers are the same though.

WilliamRLBaker

Most people dont have a dedicated gaming PC they can shove into the living room entertainment / home theater. You will be playing Shogun 2 while the rest of the family are waiting in line to email friends or surf the net.

1.Dont have a pc in my room.
2.Its a all in comprehensive service that is still far superior in features and stability then psn.
3.Microsoft actually takes care of hackers and cheaters and they for the most part stay down...Psn not so much when they do get em they are back within a few days if not less.
4.did I mention its a comprehensive all inclusive that keeps getting updated to be better? dont get so much on psn where most updates do much of anything.
5.I've been on it for a long long time..will be comming up on 10 years november of 2011 and it hasn't disapointed me very often.
6.Its still superior to PSN specially in the realm of p2p connections Sony literally does nothing for developers in this area which is why ps3 p2p is inferior. Dedicated servers are the same though.


you may have noticed my argument is psn vs xbox live...this is becasue your initial arguement is spotty and lame at best you are comparing a service to an entire pc system you brought up so many arguments that have nothing to do with a comparison between online services.

WilliamRLBaker

Always trying to feel better with your choice by bashing the PS3, uh?? Can't make a case without it :lol:

Most people dont have a dedicated gaming PC they can shove into the living room entertainment / home theater. You will be playing Shogun 2 while the rest of the family are waiting in line to email friends or surf the net.

Videodogg

Most people dont have a dedicated gaming PC they can shove into the living room entertainment / home theater. You will be playing Shogun 2 while the rest of the family are waiting in line to email friends or surf the net.

People who haven't yet upgraded for PS3 pay for xbox live

People will say all sorts of things to justify it.......... but the simple answer is,

if you want to play online games on the 360, you have no choice.

$600 - The average amount paid for XLBG if you started paying from launch.

....and counting.....

So I can play my Haloz.Stevo_the_gamer

/thread by Stevo!!

Because I just want to play games online, and don't really care whether or not it's "right" to pay for it. It's a completely trivial amount of money to me.

Because I just want to play games online, and don't really care whether or not it's "right" to pay for it. It's a completely trivial amount of money to me.

Teufelhuhn

congrats, but to some its not. a little arrogant, no?

ima guesstimate but 360 folks pay for xboxlive because they have no choice, if they dont they cant play online. if i had some good lawyers i would sue ms, theyre so greedy in my eyes

This is my last year paying for live. Up until then I co-oped quite a lot with a buddy and played a bunch of multiplayer games while I didn't have my gaming PC. Now that I do. This is it for me and XBL.

This is my last year paying for live. Up until then I co-oped quite a lot with a buddy and played a bunch of multiplayer games while I didn't have my gaming PC. Now that I do. This is it for me and XBL.

Animal-Mother

How you gonna play Gears man?? :o

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Because I just want to play games online, and don't really care whether or not it's "right" to pay for it. It's a completely trivial amount of money to me.

HailCaesarHail

congrats, but to some its not. a little arrogant, no?

I don't pay for Xbox Live, mainly because I very rarely play games with other people. The only games that I currently play with others is LittleBigPlanet 2 and both Left 4 Dead games on the PC.

I never understand these kind of topics. Most people buy 12-month XBL subscriptions for $45 and the service offers more content than my local cable TV which has no good show I want to watch. What do you gain from dissuading people from paying for Xbox Live which is an essential part of the console? I thought a level 35 poster would have figured it out years ago. :roll:

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

This is my last year paying for live. Up until then I co-oped quite a lot with a buddy and played a bunch of multiplayer games while I didn't have my gaming PC. Now that I do. This is it for me and XBL.

GreenGoblin2099

How you gonna play Gears man?? :o

So I can play 360 games online?And I have a job so paying for live isn't much of an issue for me.

they pay because if they want to play online with it they have no choice. sad really, with all the other features except online are free.HailCaesarHail

[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Because I just want to play games online, and don't really care whether or not it's "right" to pay for it. It's a completely trivial amount of money to me.

Teufelhuhn

congrats, but to some its not. a little arrogant, no?

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]

congrats, but to some its not. a little arrogant, no?

EndlessPunisher

One more game a year > paying a purely profit driven fee

You can say they don't care, but deep down inside... you care, just like you would care if I stole $60 from your bank account every year for nothing.

People have 3 options,

1) Take a stand and don't pay it, and get your online jollys someplace else.

2) Pay it but admit the milking.

3) Pay it and justify it to yourself... and some times others.

I was 2 but now I'm 1. I see allot of 3s here. :P

Edit: I guess there is a 4,

you don't care about the cost of live but you cant afford a computer..... interesting :lol:

[QUOTE="EndlessPunisher"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

How is it arrogant to share my own personal circumstances? I never said that they applied to anyone else. Obviously for some people the money will matter a lot more, or even less than it does to me.

FragTycoon

One more game a year > paying a purely profit driven fee

You can say they don't care, but deep down inside... you care, just like you would care if I stole $60 from your bank account every year for nothing.

People have 3 options,

1) Take a stand and don't pay it, and get your online jollys someplace else.

2) Pay it but admit the milking.

3) Pay it and justify it to yourself... and some times others.

I was 2 but now I'm 1. I see allot of 3s here. :P

Edit: I guess there is a 4,

you don't care about the cost of live but you cant afford a computer..... interesting :lol:

This is my last year paying for live. Up until then I co-oped quite a lot with a buddy and played a bunch of multiplayer games while I didn't have my gaming PC. Now that I do. This is it for me and XBL.

Animal-Mother

Haven't you heard all the people saying they buy consoles for friends?

I'm pretty DEAD CERTAIN that you can't play with friends on the PC, so if you're going into it thinking you can then I feel sorry for you. You'll be disappointed.

You need a console for friends. I'd suggest the Xbox 360 with Xbox Live Gold! :)

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

This is my last year paying for live. Up until then I co-oped quite a lot with a buddy and played a bunch of multiplayer games while I didn't have my gaming PC. Now that I do. This is it for me and XBL.

Raymundo_Manuel

Haven't you heard all the people saying they buy consoles for friends?

I'm pretty DEAD CERTAIN that you can't play with friends on the PC, so if you're going into it thinking you can then I feel sorry for you. You'll be disappointed.

You need a console for friends. I'd suggest the Xbox 360 with Xbox Live Gold! :)

i pay because i like the service, and i like to play my favorite exclusives online. 60 dollars a year is not a big deal under my personal circumstances, and i think the service is good enough to justify paying for it.

i plan on getting a gaming PC in the future when i have a lot of money to blow. i going to get a very good one so it will cost a lot. buying a midrange PC is pointless since i already have my consoles.

i pay because i like the service, and i like to play my favorite exclusives online. 60 dollars a year is not a big deal under my personal circumstances, and i think the service is good enough to justify paying for it.

i plan on getting a gaming PC in the future when i have a lot of money to blow. i going to get a very good one so it will cost a lot. buying a midrange PC is pointless since i already have my consoles.

taterfrickintot

That's how I see it.

I dont pay fo XBL I play my 360 offline and ima sell it after Gears 3.