So with all these 3DS announcements there wasn't a single new IP?

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Oh Nintendo!!!

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

I don't really care what sony does, they have 3rd party games to back up their average 1st party lineup and even with that they still manage to deliver some new core IPs. Nintendo has a below average first party and rehashing the same games/IPs over and over.

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So Sony is allowed to deliver with 3rd party studios but Nintendo can't?

What? I never said that. I said sony has 3rd party games to rely on and STILL delivers new core IPs. Nintendo doesn't have it but just continues to rehash the same stuff over and over, and even when they have it (3DS) they still rehash the same shit over and over. It's not to say handheld games have these ridiculous risks behind them that they can't announce a couple new IPs.

And Nintendo is delivering with Bravely Default. A new IP.
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Do you understand what the words innovate mean? Nothing was innovative there, and all console zelda play the same from OOT till now, wooo we got multi-directional swinging, soooo different!

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Are you sure that  you  do?

 

Do you understand what context is? Please don't come here with your semantics.

Those Nintendo games innovated more within the context of their franchises and within the larger context of gaming in general than any Sony game did; unless you can point me to a Sony game that innovated more than those? Going by your general definitions, I mean.
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#105 PatchMaster
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Give it up GD, you aren't winning this one.

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Damn, I was not expecting all these awesome games to be announced today.

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Dat ownage!

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#107 Ragnarok1051
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And Nintendo is delivering with Bravely Default. A new IP.RyanShazam
That is not a Nintendo IP.
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#108 GD1551
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Those Nintendo games innovated more within the context of their franchises and within the larger context of gaming in general than any Sony game did; unless you can point me to a Sony game that innovated more than those? Going by your general definitions, I mean.charizard1605

Please tell me how those games innovated in the large context of gaming please.

Please tell me how SMG innovated in the larger context of gaming

or Metroid Prime or Zelda after OOT or Starfox or kirby or any of those games?

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Why? Because Sony can't stick with their old franchises resulting into making new ones? 

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Those Nintendo games innovated more within the context of their franchises and within the larger context of gaming in general than any Sony game did; unless you can point me to a Sony game that innovated more than those? Going by your general definitions, I mean.GD1551

Please tell me how those games innovated in the large context of gaming please.

Please tell me how SMG innovated in the larger context of gaming

or Metroid Prime or Zelda after OOT or Starfox or kirby or any of those games?

First you answer my question: can you name any Sony game that did innovate?
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]And Nintendo is delivering with Bravely Default. A new IP.Ragnarok1051
That is not a Nintendo IP.

I dont care. Sony doesn't develop their own games. So he used 3rd party as a defense, so I used 3rd party to declare this massive ownage!
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Please tell me how SMG innovated in the larger context of gaming

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:| ... ... ... ... ... :lol:
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]And Nintendo is delivering with Bravely Default. A new IP.RyanShazam
That is not a Nintendo IP.

I dont care. Sony doesn't develop their own games. So he used 3rd party as a defense, so I used 3rd party to declare this massive ownage!

Sony has a ton of studios under them. So I'm quite sure they can develop games for themselves.
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I didn't realize a Nintendo Direct could stir up Cow's pantyhose so bad. Nintendo should have these more often.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] That is not a Nintendo IP.

I dont care. Sony doesn't develop their own games. So he used 3rd party as a defense, so I used 3rd party to declare this massive ownage!

Sony has a ton of studios under them. So I'm quite sure they can develop games for themselves.

Your point? Nintendo has their own teams and other studios under them.
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lmao this picture helps prove my point. If you replaced the first picture on the nintendo side with MM or OOT for zelda, Mario 64 for SMW and metroid fusion for Metroid prime, you can easily make the same thing for the nintendo side :lol: .I also don't know why you guys keep bringing up sony.. did I mention them somewhere?

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#117 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Please tell me how SMG innovated in the larger context of gaming

BrunoBRS

:| ... ... ... ... ... :lol:

That's all you can pretty much do, because you know it didn't.

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#118 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] I dont care. Sony doesn't develop their own games. So he used 3rd party as a defense, so I used 3rd party to declare this massive ownage!

Sony has a ton of studios under them. So I'm quite sure they can develop games for themselves.

Your point? Nintendo has their own teams and other studios under them.

TC isn't arguing that. And my point still stands that SE is not a first party studio to Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Sony has a ton of studios under them. So I'm quite sure they can develop games for themselves.

Your point? Nintendo has their own teams and other studios under them.

TC isn't arguing that. And my point still stands that SE is not a first party studio to Nintendo.

I never said they were. What was your point anyways? Thats how little I care lol
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

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lmao this picture helps prove my point.

You're right, that picture definitely proves your point.
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#121 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

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lmao this picture helps prove my point. If you replaced the first picture on the nintendo side with MM or OOT for zelda, Mario 64 for SMW and metroid fusion for Metroid prime, you can easily make the same thing for the nintendo side :lol: .I also don't know why you guys keep bringing up sony.. did I mention them somewhere?

keep deflecting, you're not fooling anyone.
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Grasping at straws

GD1551 in this thread.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

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lmao this picture helps prove my point. If you replaced the first picture on the nintendo side with MM or OOT for zelda, Mario 64 for SMW and metroid fusion for Metroid prime, you can easily make the same thing for the nintendo side :lol: .I also don't know why you guys keep bringing up sony.. did I mention them somewhere?

You know an argument is poor when it's based on "ifs." Can't wait for what's next. "If you replace the third Uncharted game with Uncharted Fight for Fortune then Sony innovates, duh!"
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#124 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

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lmao this picture helps prove my point. If you replaced the first picture on the nintendo side with MM or OOT for zelda, Mario 64 for SMW and metroid fusion for Metroid prime, you can easily make the same thing for the nintendo side :lol: .I also don't know why you guys keep bringing up sony.. did I mention them somewhere?

keep deflecting, you're not fooling anyone.

lmao keep crying because you know I'm right.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Sony has a ton of studios under them. So I'm quite sure they can develop games for themselves.

Your point? Nintendo has their own teams and other studios under them.

TC isn't arguing that. And my point still stands that SE is not a first party studio to Nintendo.

TC hates Nintendo and will pick at the smallest detail and turn it into to something much larger. The argument he is trying to make is stupid and pointless. Nintendo showed new IPs so all the TC spin this around and flip it into a negative.
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Grasping at straws

GD1551 in this thread.

charizard1605
hey, i posted that pic first! I DEMAND MY RIGHTS.
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Your point? Nintendo has their own teams and other studios under them.

TC isn't arguing that. And my point still stands that SE is not a first party studio to Nintendo.

I never said they were. What was your point anyways? Thats how little I care lol

We're talking about first party titles here and you claim Braverly Default is a new Nintendo IP. SE does not equal Nintendo.
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What's people's obsession with new IPs? There are tons of new IPs every year, so what if Nintendo isn't making new IPs if they're trying different things with the great IPs they already have.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

lmao this picture helps prove my point. If you replaced the first picture on the nintendo side with MM or OOT for zelda, Mario 64 for SMW and metroid fusion for Metroid prime, you can easily make the same thing for the nintendo side :lol: .I also don't know why you guys keep bringing up sony.. did I mention them somewhere?

GD1551

keep deflecting, you're not fooling anyone.

lmao keep crying because you know I'm right.

Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!!
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] TC isn't arguing that. And my point still stands that SE is not a first party studio to Nintendo.

I never said they were. What was your point anyways? Thats how little I care lol

We're talking about first party titles here and you claim Braverly Default is a new Nintendo IP. SE does not equal Nintendo.

If we're talking about first party games, both you and GD1551 seem to have skillfully sidestepped Project X.
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What's people's obsession with new IPs? There are tons of new IPs every year, so what if Nintendo isn't making new IPs if they're trying different things with the great IPs they already have. mems_1224

Except they aren't trying different things?

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] TC isn't arguing that. And my point still stands that SE is not a first party studio to Nintendo.

I never said they were. What was your point anyways? Thats how little I care lol

We're talking about first party titles here and you claim Braverly Default is a new Nintendo IP. SE does not equal Nintendo.

Im not claiming that...
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!!

That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!!

That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.

They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.
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#135 GD1551
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If we're talking about first party games, both you and GD1551 seem to have skillfully sidestepped Project X.charizard1605

You don't even know if it is a new IP :| everyone thinks it's Xenoblade 2. If it was a new IP wouldn't they just say it was a new IP?

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!!

That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.

The formula works. People are already bored of Uncharted.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]What's people's obsession with new IPs? There are tons of new IPs every year, so what if Nintendo isn't making new IPs if they're trying different things with the great IPs they already have. GD1551

Except they aren't trying different things?

Yea they are. Nintendo takes more chances with their franchises than anyone else. Just because you don't want to see it doesnt make it true.
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!! charizard1605
That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.

They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.

LMAO yes it does :lol: oh goody you can swing in another direction in SS, it only took 13 years :lol:

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]What's people's obsession with new IPs? There are tons of new IPs every year, so what if Nintendo isn't making new IPs if they're trying different things with the great IPs they already have. mems_1224

Except they aren't trying different things?

Yea they are. Nintendo takes more chances with their franchises than anyone else. Just because you don't want to see it doesnt make it true.

How so? Zelda been playing the same way for 13 years.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

If we're talking about first party games, both you and GD1551 seem to have skillfully sidestepped Project X.GD1551

You don't even know if it is a new IP :| everyone thinks it's Xenoblade 2. If it was a new IP wouldn't they just say it was a new IP?

They said it was a new IP. No one thinks it's a sequel. It was not announced as a sequel. It was announced as Monolith Soft's newest project. By your logic, The Last of Us is not a new IP until Naughty Dog explicitly states it is not related to Uncharted; hell, who knows there might be a Drake cameo at the end. UNCHARTED REHASH
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!!

That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.

They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.

He didn't mention Mask.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda. GD1551

They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.

LMAO yes it does :lol: oh goody you can swing in another direction in SS, it only took 13 years :lol:

And right here, you reveal your ignorance, and now we can safely ignore everything you say from this point on. Not that anyone needed any more convincing.
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.

They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.

He didn't mention Mask.

Ocarina of Time-Skyward Sword represents a time frame. Majora's Mask is included in that time frame.
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#144 GD1551
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And right here, you reveal your ignorance, and now we can safely ignore everything you say from this point on. Not that anyone needed any more convincing.charizard1605

Oh and right here, you are stuck again because you know it to be true.

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Nope but I'm gonna get it all anyways because Nintendo hit me right in the nostalgia

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.

He didn't mention Mask.

Ocarina of Time-Skyward Sword represents a time frame. Majora's Mask is included in that time frame.

He mentioned 3 games so I commented on those 3 games.
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Except they aren't trying different things?

GD1551

Yea they are. Nintendo takes more chances with their franchises than anyone else. Just because you don't want to see it doesnt make it true.

How so? Zelda been playing the same way for 13 years.

Skyward Sword plays nothing like Ocarina or Wind Waker. Sorry. Zelda changes more between games than something like Uncharted or Killzone
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#148 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Even "if" we did replace the picture like you mentioned it doesn't help your point. Ocarina of Time, WindWaker, Skyward Sword all came out different gens. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 were the same gen!!! charizard1605
That just means through 3 gens Nintendo kept the same formula with Zelda.

They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.

You didn't know they are the exact same game? Also according to the TC

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and

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are the same game. lol

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#149 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] They did? Majora's Mask plays like Skyward Sword? Holy crap, I did not know that.charizard1605

LMAO yes it does :lol: oh goody you can swing in another direction in SS, it only took 13 years :lol:

And right here, you reveal your ignorance, and now we can safely ignore everything you say from this point on. Not that anyone needed any more convincing.

Now? Should have done that already.:P

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#150 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

If we're talking about first party games, both you and GD1551 seem to have skillfully sidestepped Project X.charizard1605

You don't even know if it is a new IP :| everyone thinks it's Xenoblade 2. If it was a new IP wouldn't they just say it was a new IP?

They said it was a new IP. No one thinks it's a sequel. It was not announced as a sequel. It was announced as Monolith Soft's newest project. By your logic, The Last of Us is not a new IP until Naughty Dog explicitly states it is not related to Uncharted; hell, who knows there might be a Drake cameo at the end. UNCHARTED REHASH

Where did they say that? They only said it was a new game as far as I remember.

"Here's my newest project with a code name and no real reference to being a new IP or not, that kinda looks like an IP of a game I had before" but you surely think it's a new IP....

Also you example was just stupid, TLOU isn't a code name so we know it's a new IP. Infact, why do you clowns keep bringing up sony anyway?