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#51 -Ninja_Dog-
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[QUOTE="fistoflight"]

Well SO4 will officially be on three disc whats your thoughts on this? Any comments on blu ray is useless now?

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/12/06/xbox-360-star-ocean-needs-3-dvds-why-microsoft-needs-blu-ray/

Shafftehr

The fact that it is appearing on a non-Blu-Ray system and working perfectly fine pretty much confirms that blu-ray is useless. That's my comment.

Oh snap.

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#52 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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Lol, disc swapping sucks.... Ringx55

Do you know what sucks even more? Having to wait 4-8 minutes for an install to finish (MGS4). Swapping disks: 5 seconds.

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#53 the-obiwan
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still will buy it dont carenjean777
what he say =D, did i care when lost odyssey came out on 4 disk? no and i loved that game
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#54 hayato_
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I'll still buy it.

The reason its probably three discs is because of the cutscenes, which I hope Japanese developers never get rid of. I love the direction they take on them and its alwasy nice to look at.

Since Square-Enix is handling the cutscenes and movie directions for Star Ocean (its a joint project between Square and Tri Ace) its was bound to be multiple discs. Surprising though, it seems developers are starting to favor blu ray a little more though. Nomura haas already states that blu ray is a plus because their able to burn to it faster or something like that. As for the installs I really don't know.

All in all, both have ther ups and downs

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#55 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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FF 7 was on 3 disks, and CDs were the highest capacity format
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#56 LEGEND_C4A
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I have nothing against switching discs, its just the prospect of losing or scratching one disc that really annoys me. nothing is more frustrating than losing a single disc and then searching for it for ever. You cant exactly justify buying the game again because it would feel like a waste, but at the same time you cant find the one disc you need. The horror! :cry:II_Seraphim_II

those two reasons are silly, first off, how do you lose a disc? you have to be pretty irresponsible to just poof! lose a disk! and two, scratching? you will only use one disc at a time anyway. one in the system the others in the case, so you would actually be using one disk on a consistent basis regardless if the game is on one or 3 discs. :P

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#57 Gamer4Iife
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Urggh... I hate disk-swapping with a passion. >_>
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#58 xion1234
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who cares alast as it dont flop
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#59 Couth_
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I would be worried if it wasn't on multiple discs. Who cares about how many discs there are
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#60 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I have nothing against switching discs, its just the prospect of losing or scratching one disc that really annoys me. nothing is more frustrating than losing a single disc and then searching for it for ever. You cant exactly justify buying the game again because it would feel like a waste, but at the same time you cant find the one disc you need. The horror! :cry:LEGEND_C4A

those two reasons are silly, first off, how do you lose a disc? you have to be pretty irresponsible to just poof! lose a disk! and two, scratching? you will only use one disc at a time anyway. one in the system the others in the case, so you would actually be using one disk on a consistent basis regardless if the game is on one or 3 discs. :P

Little brothers are the bane of all video gamers :P
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#61 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I have nothing against switching discs, its just the prospect of losing or scratching one disc that really annoys me. nothing is more frustrating than losing a single disc and then searching for it for ever. You cant exactly justify buying the game again because it would feel like a waste, but at the same time you cant find the one disc you need. The horror! :cry:II_Seraphim_II

those two reasons are silly, first off, how do you lose a disc? you have to be pretty irresponsible to just poof! lose a disk! and two, scratching? you will only use one disc at a time anyway. one in the system the others in the case, so you would actually be using one disk on a consistent basis regardless if the game is on one or 3 discs. :P

Little brothers are the bane of all video gamers :P

I stand corrected, I'm sorry didn't even think about that. I'm an only child:cry: forgive me!:D

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#62 stayhigh1
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Who cares? It's not like you're going to have to get up and change the disks every few minutes. More than likely it is going to be 1/3 of the story or 1/3 os the world which is where you are going to have to change disks.BumFluff122

It still sucks that you have to take care of all 3 disks..If one disk is missing you the game will useless and you have to buy a brand new copy..I am sure they going to stack the disks on eachother just how did they did it with Lost Odessey.. Myfriend hate buying used 360 games because most of the time it have scratches and seem like 360 don't even take care of it..

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#63 xion1234
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I have nothing against switching discs, its just the prospect of losing or scratching one disc that really annoys me. nothing is more frustrating than losing a single disc and then searching for it for ever. You cant exactly justify buying the game again because it would feel like a waste, but at the same time you cant find the one disc you need. The horror! :cry:II_Seraphim_II

those two reasons are silly, first off, how do you lose a disc? you have to be pretty irresponsible to just poof! lose a disk! and two, scratching? you will only use one disc at a time anyway. one in the system the others in the case, so you would actually be using one disk on a consistent basis regardless if the game is on one or 3 discs. :P

Little brothers are the bane of all video gamers :P

thats true but i want a good rpg for the 360
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#64 Gta3-fan334
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Multiple discs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandatory installs Yes Blu-Ray has only held back the PS3 so far:|FirstDiscovery
Yeah, first gen blu-ray drives are horrible for gaming. Sony had to use installs to keep the loading times the same as on the 360! :lol:
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#65 The_Game21x
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I guess it being on 3 discs makes the game less fun or something? :?

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#66 coolguy735
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Oh no I'll have to go and buy a ps3 now ( sarcasm ) Its only changing a couple of discs and ps3 dont even have this game!
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#67 odin2019
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stole my thread. Anyway 3 disc is quite a lot for this gen and I'm wondering how many disc it will take to release FFXIII on the 360.....also, by releasing this game on the 360 they won't go past 4 disc and will this have a negative impact on the game overall? If so by how much?
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#68 Simulator_Shock
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Wow TC it's a good thing that you weren't playing RPG's back in the PS1 days. I'd much much rather have to swap disc's every several hours into the game instead of having to do a tedious who knows how long install.
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#69 tikki25x
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well that was to be expected. at least we know the game should be fairly long with lots of pretty CG. having to switch disks is not a problem. and i plan on installing the game to my hard drive for faster loading. i know you still have to switch disks but thats kewl.
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#70 II_Seraphim_II
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thats true but i want a good rpg for the 360xion1234
yeah same. Multi-discs wont deter me from buying a good RPG, im just saying its a minor inconvinience, nothing game breaking though :P
I stand corrected, I'm sorry didn't even think about that. I'm an only child:cry: forgive me!:D LEGEND_C4A
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#71 cody3232
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[QUOTE="Ringx55"]Lol, disc swapping sucks.... [/QUOTE you think that bad i used to play legend of dragoon on ps1 6 disks....... but i loved that fu**ing gamejeezers
Legend of dragoon was 4 disks....but anyway back on topic i don't know how you survived playing previous generations of jrps with disk swapping being a big annoyance
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#72 Lionheart08
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Disk swapping reminds me of the good old days of Final Fantasy VII/VIII/IX. :P
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#73 destro123
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really? anyone who honestly cares that they have to change a disk doesnt deserve to live. it makes no diffrence what so ever.
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#74 After_Math
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According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

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#75 Roushrsh
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As long as the price remains the same, who cares ?
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#76 ChiSoxBombers
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Are you goping to make thread about Last remnant being on two disc, infiniteundiscovery on 2 disc, Lost opdyssey on 4 disc. are you going to make a thread about those ?

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no just the ones that are actually confirmed. dont cry
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#77 ChiSoxBombers
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[QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

So ur saying that by having three disks, SO4 will be the new best RPG ever. interesting thought process u got goin on over there, wouldnt trust it though. I will add a new thought for you: the best FPS was on one disk. therefore all FPS's am best game ever
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#78 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

ChiSoxBombers
So ur saying that by having three disks, SO4 will be the new best RPG ever. interesting thought process u got goin on over there, wouldnt trust it though. I will add a new thought for you: the best FPS was on one disk. therefore all FPS's am best game ever

it's amazing how you didn't understand his point..
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Why in JRPGs? Leave the CGI already.
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[QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

ChiSoxBombers
So ur saying that by having three disks, SO4 will be the new best RPG ever. interesting thought process u got goin on over there, wouldnt trust it though. I will add a new thought for you: the best FPS was on one disk. therefore all FPS's am best game ever

Swing and Miss!
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#81 MigElite
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I don't care
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#82 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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[QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

ChiSoxBombers

So ur saying that by having three disks, SO4 will be the new best RPG ever. interesting thought process u got goin on over there, wouldnt trust it though. I will add a new thought for you: the best FPS was on one disk. therefore all FPS's am best game ever

Wow...

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#84 gunswordfist
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Well SO4 will officially be on three disc whats your thoughts on this? Any comments on blu ray is useless now?

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/12/06/xbox-360-star-ocean-needs-3-dvds-why-microsoft-needs-blu-ray/

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That blu-ray comment really punched this 360 owner in the face. lol People can say they don't care if they have to swap discs but the fact is disc swapping should be dead and having one disc will always be better than having multiple discs.
still will buy it dont carenjean777
I'll still buy it if it's good too, but that doesn't make having multiple discs any better.

Are you goping to make thread about Last remnant being on two disc, infiniteundiscovery on 2 disc, Lost opdyssey on 4 disc. are you going to make a thread about those ?

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LO was four discs?! Man that sucks.
I have nothing against switching discs, its just the prospect of losing or scratching one disc that really annoys me. nothing is more frustrating than losing a single disc and then searching for it for ever. You cant exactly justify buying the game again because it would feel like a waste, but at the same time you cant find the one disc you need. The horror! :cry:II_Seraphim_II
Actually ruining any of your discs would be annoying but I never had a problem with that with my FF8 and 9. It's just still having to switch discs is what I find annoying. I thought we got rid of that. That won't stop me from getting that game but I thought we didn't have to do this anymore.
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#85 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="ChiSoxBombers"][QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

lawlessx

So ur saying that by having three disks, SO4 will be the new best RPG ever. interesting thought process u got goin on over there, wouldnt trust it though. I will add a new thought for you: the best FPS was on one disk. therefore all FPS's am best game ever

it's amazing how you didn't understand his point..

Man, the point of that post flew so far over his head that you couldn't see it with a telescope.

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#86 gunswordfist
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The only reason it's on 3 discs - the same reason for Blue Dragon, Lost Odessey and Last Remnant being on multiple discs - is that Japanese developers haven't let go of their dependance on CGI video for cut scenes. This is an outdated method that is unnecessary today when in-game graphics engines are more than capable of beautifully depicting the cinematics in story telling. Just look at WRPGs like Mass Effect, Oblivion, and Fallout 3, that are loaded with hours of gameplay, and still fit on a single DVD9.

Now I can already see the counter-argument. "Adobe, you're complaining about CGI video being outdated and unnecessary with better alternatives available. Can't the same be said of DVD9 today when there's a better alternative in BluRay?" The difference is, Blu Ray costs the gamer more in money, whereas the implementation of in-game cinematics rendering over CGI costs us nothing, and still allows games to fit on 1 disc. Plus Blu Ray being in it's early stages of technical development still carries hinderances to gaming, mainly in the form of slower drive speeds to DVD.

Yeah we need to get rid of CG cutscenes in games. Especially tons of them in games. In-game is the way to go.
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#87 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

Yeah, that's not so much cows as it is straight up RPG fans. :?
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#88 After_Math
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[QUOTE="After_Math"]

According to some cows, the best RPG ever was on three discs:

ChiSoxBombers

So ur saying that by having three disks, SO4 will be the new best RPG ever. interesting thought process u got goin on over there, wouldnt trust it though. I will add a new thought for you: the best FPS was on one disk. therefore all FPS's am best game ever

....wrong in so many cases I just don't know where to begin.

I was implying that according to many cows, FFVII is the best RPG ever, EVEN though it had three discs. Did the discs hamper the enjoyment of the game? No. Was it a nusiance? Only if you scratched a disc badly or lost a disk. So why is everybody whining about SO4 having three discs? Would it make a difference in enjoyment? No. Will there be less content? No. Is the game looking to be sweet with a side of awsome-sauce.

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#89 II_Seraphim_II
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This disc arguement is so pointless. Multiple discs are a minor annoyance at the very worst...definitely nothing to throw a fit over.
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#90 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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OK, so people are still actually using the counter argument; "if one of those discs gets scratched/lost, you can't play the game". So answer me this. What happens if the only disc of a game gets ruined? You can't play the game, right?

So how is 1of3 discs getting ruined any different from 1of1 disc getting ruined and unplayable? You still have to replace the game either way. And if it comes to the same effect, you can't play that angle that multiple discs has a severe disadvantage to a single disc. In both cases you equally have to take care of your property (in so far as siblings afford you to do so :P )

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#91 lawlessx
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OK, so people are still actually using the counter argument; "if one of those discs gets scratched/lost, you can't play the game". So answer me this. What happens if the only disc of a game gets ruined? You can't play the game, right?

So how is 1of3 discs getting ruined any different from 1of1 disc getting ruined and unplayable? You still have to replace the game either way. And if it comes to the same effect, you can't play that angle that multiple discs has a severe disadvantage to a single disc. In both cases you equally have to take care of your property (in so far as siblings afford you to do so :P )

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well it would be pretty lame to buy the entire game just to finish up the events in disc 3 :wink:
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#92 Racer_XLR
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Okay? Three disks..... I see no problem here. What.. is the price of this game going to raise now that it's on multiple disks? :P
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#93 Lionheart08
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Okay? Three disks..... I see no problem here. What.. is the price of this game going to raise now that it's on multiple disks? :PRacer_XLR

If gamers wanted to be active we'd go outside and play some sports. Microsoft needs to get with the times and realize that we don't want to get off our butts after putting the disk in the first time. :roll:

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I have nothing against switching discs, its just the prospect of losing or scratching one disc that really annoys me. nothing is more frustrating than losing a single disc and then searching for it for ever. You cant exactly justify buying the game again because it would feel like a waste, but at the same time you cant find the one disc you need. The horror! :cry:II_Seraphim_II
and what would happen if you lost the blu ray version of the game that has only one disc instead of three? you are in the same boat.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

OK, so people are still actually using the counter argument; "if one of those discs gets scratched/lost, you can't play the game". So answer me this. What happens if the only disc of a game gets ruined? You can't play the game, right?

So how is 1of3 discs getting ruined any different from 1of1 disc getting ruined and unplayable? You still have to replace the game either way. And if it comes to the same effect, you can't play that angle that multiple discs has a severe disadvantage to a single disc. In both cases you equally have to take care of your property (in so far as siblings afford you to do so :P )

lawlessx

well it would be pretty lame to buy the entire game just to finish up the events in disc 3 :wink:

And again, how would it be any different from having to replace a games single disc just to finish the last, oh say 18min of the game?

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#96 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

OK, so people are still actually using the counter argument; "if one of those discs gets scratched/lost, you can't play the game". So answer me this. What happens if the only disc of a game gets ruined? You can't play the game, right?

So how is 1of3 discs getting ruined any different from 1of1 disc getting ruined and unplayable? You still have to replace the game either way. And if it comes to the same effect, you can't play that angle that multiple discs has a severe disadvantage to a single disc. In both cases you equally have to take care of your property (in so far as siblings afford you to do so :P )

AdobeArtist

well it would be pretty lame to buy the entire game just to finish up the events in disc 3 :wink:

And again, how would it be any different from having to replace a games single disc just to finish the last, oh say 18min of the game?

no i agree with you;Im just throwing that out there. :P
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#97 Racer_XLR
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If gamers wanted to be active we'd go outside and play some sports. Microsoft needs to get with the times and realize that we don't want to get off our butts after putting the disk in the first time. :roll:

Lionheart08

You make a good point. :P

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#98 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Racer_XLR"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

If gamers wanted to be active we'd go outside and play some sports. Microsoft needs to get with the times and realize that we don't want to get off our butts after putting the disk in the first time. :roll:

You make a good point. :P

Thank god, I actually thought someone was going to make me seriously. :lol:
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#99 naruto7777
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people wont get up and change discs
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#100 danish-death
Member since 2004 • 5314 Posts
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

Well SO4 will officially be on three disc whats your thoughts on this? Any comments on blu ray is useless now?

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/12/06/xbox-360-star-ocean-needs-3-dvds-why-microsoft-needs-blu-ray/

The fact that it is appearing on a non-Blu-Ray system and working perfectly fine pretty much confirms that blu-ray is useless. That's my comment.

useless for some, yes.