The gameplay is so much better, you can sprint, manually jump, manually crouch, prone crawl and cover system just like gears of war. LOL since when do soldiers barrell around the battlefield? If you look at gears 3 multiplayer maps and then socom 4, socom 4 maps are way more complex because the game has jumping, game's without jumping suck ass.
theres a reason gears scores AAA everytime, sells 5million + every time, is listed as an MLG game , has tens of thousands of ppl online everyday, has tons of games following the cover system in its footsteps( i know it didnt invent it but just like halo it made it popular and easy to use/fun to use)
Just because a game has something doesnt make it fun, nothing in socom is as fun as a 1 v 1 shotgun battle on gridlock in sudden death, or USING TEAMWORK for once in a game is needed otherwise your gana get raped ****
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if you compare socom 4 maps to gears of war 3 you will see gears 3 maps are simplistic flat pieces of crap because no jump. Like i said no jumping ruins levels design in games not just gameplay. i always find it strange when someone has to bash one game to make another game look good.
[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if you compare socom 4 maps to gears of war 3 you will see gears 3 maps are simplistic flat pieces of crap because no jump. Like i said no jumping ruins levels design in games not just gameplay. i always find it strange when someone has to bash one game to make another game look good. socom 4 is how a third person shooter is done, gears of war is not how you do a tps. barrell rolling is a useless feature, jumping is more useful. why u think socom 4 has jumping instead of a barrell roll? because jumping is more realistic and better.
theres a reason gears scores AAA everytime, sells 5million + every time, is listed as an MLG game , has tens of thousands of ppl online everyday, has tons of games following the cover system in its footsteps( i know it didnt invent it but just like halo it made it popular and easy to use/fun to use)
Just because a game has something doesnt make it fun, nothing in socom is as fun as a 1 v 1 shotgun battle on gridlock in sudden death, or USING TEAMWORK for once in a game is needed otherwise your gana get raped ****
hearsofironthre
gears of war cover system sucks you'll be sprinting or barrell rolling with the a button and attach to a wall
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if you compare socom 4 maps to gears of war 3 you will see gears 3 maps are simplistic flat pieces of crap because no jump. Like i said no jumping ruins levels design in games not just gameplay. i always find it strange when someone has to bash one game to make another game look good. socom 4 is how a third person shooter is done, gears of war is not how you do a tps. barrell rolling is a useless feature, jumping is more useful. why u think socom 4 has jumping instead of a barrell roll? because jumping is more realistic and better. They need to improve the the camera and the jump animations first. Also, your going to have a hard time convincing people on which is better or more realistic since you're comparing a modern tps to a futuristic sci-fi tps. And realistically, if I were wearing all of the gear they have on in geow I wouldn't want to jump. I'd probably do better rolling.
if your shooting ur gun in socom 4 and then hit the jump your character will stop shooting his gun you cant jump and shoot. Why cant they add this to gears of war 3? they could have better level design.
no in gears jumping would be really stupid and the barrel rolling works
ill take gears 3 anydat over another wannabe realistic milatary game
callofdutyzone3
uncharted 2 has rolling and jumping. i never use rolling i use jumping. gears of war is trash. Let's be real here. I don't like Geow but I don't think it's trash. It's a well built game. I just don't like the settings.
no in gears jumping would be really stupid and the barrel rolling works
ill take gears 3 anydat over another wannabe realistic milatary game
Zero_epyon
uncharted 2 has rolling and jumping. i never use rolling i use jumping. gears of war is trash. Let's be real here. I don't like Geow but I don't think it's trash. It's a well built game. I just don't like the settings. it's a trash game from gameplay standpoint. A button doing roll,cover system,vaulting,sprinting is a really bad design choice.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if your shooting ur gun in socom 4 and then hit the jump your character will stop shooting his gun you cant jump and shoot. Why cant they add this to gears of war 3? they could have better level design. So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic?
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] uncharted 2 has rolling and jumping. i never use rolling i use jumping. gears of war is trash. Let's be real here. I don't like Geow but I don't think it's trash. It's a well built game. I just don't like the settings. it's a trash game from gameplay standpoint. A button doing roll,cover system,vaulting,sprinting is a really bad design choice. That's pretty much all TPS's including Socom.
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if your shooting ur gun in socom 4 and then hit the jump your character will stop shooting his gun you cant jump and shoot. Why cant they add this to gears of war 3? they could have better level design. So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic? you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if your shooting ur gun in socom 4 and then hit the jump your character will stop shooting his gun you cant jump and shoot. Why cant they add this to gears of war 3? they could have better level design. So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic? you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. You like COD so none of your opinions are valid.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if your shooting ur gun in socom 4 and then hit the jump your character will stop shooting his gun you cant jump and shoot. Why cant they add this to gears of war 3? they could have better level design. So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic? you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. soldiers don't jump. they have the best part of 50 pounds of kit on there back. and at no point at all ever does gear claim or pretend to be realistic.
[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic? you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. You like COD so none of your opinions are valid. sorry. so liking COD means you have no opinion at all.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"]if your shooting ur gun in socom 4 and then hit the jump your character will stop shooting his gun you cant jump and shoot. Why cant they add this to gears of war 3? they could have better level design. So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic? you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. But you can still shoot in real life if you wanted to. There ins't a setting on your gun that stop working if it senses that you're jumping. No the reason they roll and not jump is because it would probably look stupid as hell. Try making a 300 lb guy carrying another 50 lbs of gear on him look good jumping 3 feet in the air look realistic. It will be terrible. And what's the big problem with jumping and shooting? Epic games made the right design choice based on their characters and have sold millions of copies because of it. I think they know what they're doing.
[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] So in real life you can't shoot while in the air? How is this realistic? you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. soldiers don't jump. they have the best part of 50 pounds of kit on there back. and at no point at all ever does gear claim or pretend to be realistic. socom developers talked to real navy seals when making socom, yes soldiers do jump in real life they just dont jump and shoot like quake.
[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. You like COD so none of your opinions are valid. sorry. so liking COD means you have no opinion at all. Funny because you can jump and shoot in call of duty. Something that seems to break the entire gears searies according to TC.
theres a reason gears scores AAA everytime, sells 5million + every time, is listed as an MLG game , has tens of thousands of ppl online everyday, has tons of games following the cover system in its footsteps( i know it didnt invent it but just like halo it made it popular and easy to use/fun to use)
Just because a game has something doesnt make it fun, nothing in socom is as fun as a 1 v 1 shotgun battle on gridlock in sudden death, or USING TEAMWORK for once in a game is needed otherwise your gana get raped ****
callofdutyzone3
gears of war cover system sucks you'll be sprinting or barrell rolling with the a button and attach to a wall That's why you need to see where you're going, which is impossible with Socom's excuse of a shoulder camera lol
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Let's be real here. I don't like Geow but I don't think it's trash. It's a well built game. I just don't like the settings. it's a trash game from gameplay standpoint. A button doing roll,cover system,vaulting,sprinting is a really bad design choice. That's pretty much all TPS's including Socom. nope. left analog=sprint click it triangle button=crouch/prone o button=cover system x=jump/vaulting
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] you cant shoot very accurate, so it's kinda realistic game not letting you jump and shoot. the whole reason gears of war doesnt have jumping because everyones like waaa i dont want people jumping and shooting...when you can solve the problem like socom 4 just dont let you shoot your gun while jumping. i guess epicgames arent smart enough to pick up this idea. soldiers don't jump. they have the best part of 50 pounds of kit on there back. and at no point at all ever does gear claim or pretend to be realistic. socom developers talked to real navy seals when making socom, yes soldiers do jump in real life they just dont jump and shoot like quake. They don't jump :| Unless they like to get shot out everytime, they will climb over a cover not jump
theres a reason gears scores AAA everytime, sells 5million + every time, is listed as an MLG game , has tens of thousands of ppl online everyday, has tons of games following the cover system in its footsteps( i know it didnt invent it but just like halo it made it popular and easy to use/fun to use)
Just because a game has something doesnt make it fun, nothing in socom is as fun as a 1 v 1 shotgun battle on gridlock in sudden death, or USING TEAMWORK for once in a game is needed otherwise your gana get raped ****
Funconsole
gears of war cover system sucks you'll be sprinting or barrell rolling with the a button and attach to a wall That's why you need to see where you're going, which is impossible with Socom's excuse of a shoulder camera lol the camera is fine im glad it's like original socom.
theres a reason gears scores AAA everytime, sells 5million + every time, is listed as an MLG game , has tens of thousands of ppl online everyday, has tons of games following the cover system in its footsteps( i know it didnt invent it but just like halo it made it popular and easy to use/fun to use)
Just because a game has something doesnt make it fun, nothing in socom is as fun as a 1 v 1 shotgun battle on gridlock in sudden death, or USING TEAMWORK for once in a game is needed otherwise your gana get raped ****
Funconsole
gears of war cover system sucks you'll be sprinting or barrell rolling with the a button and attach to a wall That's why you need to see where you're going, which is impossible with Socom's excuse of a shoulder camera lol It's not even over the shoulders it's more like right behind the guy.
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] gears of war cover system sucks you'll be sprinting or barrell rolling with the a button and attach to a wall That's why you need to see where you're going, which is impossible with Socom's excuse of a shoulder camera lol It's not even over the shoulders it's more like right behind the guy. when you click the l1 button it switches to zoomed up shoulder cam same camera as gears.
[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"] soldiers don't jump. they have the best part of 50 pounds of kit on there back. and at no point at all ever does gear claim or pretend to be realistic. socom developers talked to real navy seals when making socom, yes soldiers do jump in real life they just dont jump and shoot like quake. They don't jump :| Unless they like to get shot out everytime, they will climb over a cover not jump you realize terrain causes requires you to use jump sometimes in real life? 50 lbs isnt crap i picked up a 50 lbs bag of onions at my first job resturaunt with my pinky and put it onto a table.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] it's a trash game from gameplay standpoint. A button doing roll,cover system,vaulting,sprinting is a really bad design choice. That's pretty much all TPS's including Socom. nope. left analog=sprint click it triangle button=crouch/prone o button=cover system x=jump/vaulting So you're saying that having one button do multiple things is bad design? That's ridiculous. 3 of those actions in socom can be taken care of with on button based on where you are and what you're trying to do. That leaves other buttons on you controller for even more functions. It's more about how the controls are implemented and not where they are.
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] That's pretty much all TPS's including Socom. nope. left analog=sprint click it triangle button=crouch/prone o button=cover system x=jump/vaulting So you're saying that having one button do multiple things is bad design? That's ridiculous. 3 of those actions in socom can be taken care of with on button based on where you are and what you're trying to do. That leaves other buttons on you controller for even more functions. It's more about how the controls are implemented and not where they are. having sprint and cover system on same button=really bad design choice u'll be sprinting near a wall and attach to it. YEA REAL GOOD DESIGN CHOICE. cliffy.b cant design games worth a **** anymore geow is proof.
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Funconsole"] That's why you need to see where you're going, which is impossible with Socom's excuse of a shoulder camera lolcallofdutyzone3
It's not even over the shoulders it's more like right behind the guy.when you click the l1 button it switches to zoomed up shoulder cam same camera as gears.
I'm aware how the camera works in Socom. However, unless you plan on pressing L1 everywhere you go so that the camera is comfortable be prepared to get shot repeatedly from all angles but the front.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] It's not even over the shoulders it's more like right behind the guy.Zero_epyon
when you click the l1 button it switches to zoomed up shoulder cam same camera as gears.
I'm aware how the camera works in Socom. However, unless you plan on pressing L1 everywhere you go so that the camera is comfortable be prepared to get shot repeatedly from all angles but the front.
behind camera view is better when ur not zooming up.
Then clearly haven't seen the latest news, Gears 3 will feature jumping and climbing as well... [spoiler] Joke but both games are looking good so why bash what you haven't played? [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] nope. left analog=sprint click it triangle button=crouch/prone o button=cover system x=jump/vaulting So you're saying that having one button do multiple things is bad design? That's ridiculous. 3 of those actions in socom can be taken care of with on button based on where you are and what you're trying to do. That leaves other buttons on you controller for even more functions. It's more about how the controls are implemented and not where they are. having sprint and cover system on same button=really bad design choice u'll be sprinting near a wall and attach to it. YEA REAL GOOD DESIGN CHOICE. cliffy.b cant design games worth a **** anymore geow is proof. why does gears upset you so much.
[QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="callofdutyzone3"] nope. left analog=sprint click it triangle button=crouch/prone o button=cover system x=jump/vaulting So you're saying that having one button do multiple things is bad design? That's ridiculous. 3 of those actions in socom can be taken care of with on button based on where you are and what you're trying to do. That leaves other buttons on you controller for even more functions. It's more about how the controls are implemented and not where they are. having sprint and cover system on same button=really bad design choice u'll be sprinting near a wall and attach to it. YEA REAL GOOD DESIGN CHOICE. cliffy.b cant design games worth a **** anymore geow is proof. I've never had that happen. I remember having to let go of the sprint to then go into cover. I could be wrong since I haven't played it in a while. Even if, it's not something the Gears fanbase is complaining about since I believe the controls have been the same since the first.
All you gotta do is play socom 4 beta it's avalible to download for playstation plus members or people who got code when they bought killzone3 you will see levels are way more complex than gears of war....that's proof no jumping makes the level design more simplistic on games. i have gears of war 1/2 and no lie i think the gameplay is way better on socom 4 and level design of multiplayer maps.
theres a reason gears scores AAA everytime, sells 5million + every time, is listed as an MLG game , has tens of thousands of ppl online everyday, has tons of games following the cover system in its footsteps( i know it didnt invent it but just like halo it made it popular and easy to use/fun to use)
Just because a game has something doesnt make it fun, nothing in socom is as fun as a 1 v 1 shotgun battle on gridlock in sudden death, or USING TEAMWORK for once in a game is needed otherwise your gana get raped ****
Funconsole
gears of war cover system sucks you'll be sprinting or barrell rolling with the a button and attach to a wall That's why you need to see where you're going, which is impossible with Socom's excuse of a shoulder camera lol
It's not a shoulder cam. That's how Socom's camera always was. Just a little further back...
ill buy gears 3 because of graphics not gameplay ..but im gonna buy socom 4 because it has better gameplay actually and actually the graphics are pretty good on this beta.
i agree with this 10 thousand percent. socom4 is better than gears3 because it has better graphics, it will score better, it will sell better and more people will be on socom4 in my eyes. like the tc said, socom4 is how you should a thirdperson shooter
i agree with this 10 thousand percent. socom4 is better than gears3 because it has better graphics, it will score better, it will sell better and more people will be on socom4 in my eyes. like the tc said, socom4 is how you should a thirdperson shooter
I dont totally hate gears of war i just think they could improve the gameplay alot and anytime you mention about improving gameplay gears of war fans get all butthurt about trying to evolve the franchise why do they want gears 3 to have same gameplay as part 1?
I dont totally hate gears of war i just think they could improve the gameplay alot and anytime you mention about improving gameplay gears of war fans get all butthurt about trying to evolve the franchise why do they want gears 3 to have same gameplay as part 1?callofdutyzone3
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