Software make a system, not harware

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Good hardware certainly helps.

The better the hardware, the better the software, with few exceptions.

If we didn't have good hardware, video games would have hit a brick wall years ago.

I'd argue that both make a system.

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Kaszilla

I'm sure the hardware enabling such games to exist have nothing to do with it. Both are needed for gaming to prosper.

I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Kaszilla

Because they can't out do Nintendo in software. Especially not first party.

Sony is trying to sell there disc formats n tvs in their playstations now

thats why they make it powerful

ps1 was about gaming

ps2 was about gaming

ps3 was about hdtvs, 3dtvs, n disc format......then gaming

just like they famously said at E3 the ps3 is not a gaming console lol

In some ways weaker hardware can actually help. If it's more cost effective to develop for weaker hardware then perhaps more developers will flock to the weaker system. I think that may have been a major reason why the PS1 was successful and consequently the PS2.

Also the fact that Nintendo was capable of still producing some of the best games this gen on extremely dated hardware says something.

NO! THEY ARE ALL MADE BY THEIR MANUFACTURERS!

Sony is trying to sell there disc formats n tvs in their playstations now

thats why they make it powerful

ps1 was about gaming

ps2 was about gaming

ps3 was about hdtvs, 3dtvs, n disc format......then gaming

just like they famously said at E3 the ps3 is not a gaming console lol

NJGIANTSNY

[QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

Sony is trying to sell there disc formats n tvs in their playstations now

thats why they make it powerful

ps1 was about gaming

ps2 was about gaming

ps3 was about hdtvs, 3dtvs, n disc format......then gaming

just like they famously said at E3 the ps3 is not a gaming console lol

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

Sony is trying to sell there disc formats n tvs in their playstations now

thats why they make it powerful

ps1 was about gaming

ps2 was about gaming

ps3 was about hdtvs, 3dtvs, n disc format......then gaming

just like they famously said at E3 the ps3 is not a gaming console lol

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

Sony is trying to sell there disc formats n tvs in their playstations now

thats why they make it powerful

ps1 was about gaming

ps2 was about gaming

ps3 was about hdtvs, 3dtvs, n disc format......then gaming

just like they famously said at E3 the ps3 is not a gaming console lol

KC_Hokie

I'd argue that both make a system.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

SilverChimera

Because they can't out do Nintendo in software. Especially not first party.

I'd argue that both make a system.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

Sony is trying to sell there disc formats n tvs in their playstations now

thats why they make it powerful

ps1 was about gaming

ps2 was about gaming

ps3 was about hdtvs, 3dtvs, n disc format......then gaming

just like they famously said at E3 the ps3 is not a gaming console lol

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] How is sony using ps3 as a trojan horse for blu-ray any different from ps2 and DVD?MFDOOM1983

The first blu-ray movies came out in late June 2006. Less than five months later the PS3 had a bluray drive in it. Sony lost money by putting the bluray in the PS3.

World of difference between the two.

Correct. And the SNES had a weaker CPU than the Genesis if you didn't know. They used special in-cart addon chips like the Super FX to make up for the lacking CPU.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]DVD players were out 5 years before the PS2 used the format while the PS3 pushed the blu-ray format near its launch. KC_Hokie

The first blu-ray movies came out in late June 2006. Less than five months later the PS3 had a bluray drive in it. Sony lost money by putting the bluray in the PS3.

World of difference between the two.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] How is sony using ps3 as a trojan horse for blu-ray any different from ps2 and DVD?MFDOOM1983

How much was the PS2 in 2000? We already had sub-$130 DVD players by that time. We still have a JVC DVD player and a Pioneer karaoke DVD player from 2000. The Pioneer was hitting $200. But, the JVC was much less, way less.

The PC has been winning for a long time, and has both hardware and software.

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Kaszilla

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Kaszilla

it seems we're entering a new age. For me growing up it was an age with a rabid lust for more processing power. Now, it's really neat to have but not essential. Look at the rise of Apple, a whole corporation that puts processing power as a low priority in favor of sleek design, friendly user interface, and high profitability

Or you could have both. Great software and amazing graphics, only on PC.SaltyMeatballs

Hardware can change the quality or style of the game.

DS touchscreen for example.

The better the hardware the better the games can be, just look at the PS3. The PS3 hardware is the reason why PS3 exclusives are more powerful than the competition, it's not outdated like the other guys. Look at Uncharted and Killzone and God of War and MGS4 ect... then look at the 360 exclusives and Wii exclusives, they can't match up.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

SilverChimera

Because they can't out do Nintendo in software. Especially not first party.

Sony already passed the hump when they made the ps3. Now they can(and should due to money) coast on teh cell power. eboyishere

If it's not a dead end like some people fear.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]Sony already passed the hump when they made the ps3. Now they can(and should due to money) coast on teh cell power. OB-47

If it's not a dead end like some people fear.

Is it?

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]Sony already passed the hump when they made the ps3. Now they can(and should due to money) coast on teh cell power. eboyishere

If it's not a dead end like some people fear.

Is it?

We'll soon find out. Or not. The PS3's architecture is very odd, but then again the PS2 wasn't exactly conventional either. I hope the Cell isn't just a short term solution as that will mean Sony has a winner on their hands.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

If it's not a dead end like some people fear.

OB-47

Is it?

We'll soon find out. Or not. The PS3's architecture is very odd, but then again the PS2 wasn't exactly conventional either. I hope the Cell isn't just a short term solution as that will mean Sony has a winner on their hands.

I can agree to an extent.

BLACK on the less graphics, and less power PS2 has superb graphics that (in my opinion) has better graphics than some older ps3 games.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Shielder7

Genesis/Mega Drive- Estimated from 37.3 million to 40.9 million

Am I missing something here? How does most selling console not determine a winner?

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Kaszilla

A combination of good marketing,good price point and good software are what makes a system sell to the masses.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

simomate

Sony's been trying to push powerful systems for years now, how is it all of a sudden?

Say what you want but the SNES,PS1,PS2,and DS all won because of their superior software, notice how all but the snes were the weakest of their Gen. Don't expect the Software>Hardware to change anytime soon, I don't see why Sony cares about power now all of a sudden.

Kaszilla

Thank you...

In some ways weaker hardware can actually help. If it's more cost effective to develop for weaker hardware then perhaps more developers will flock to the weaker system. I think that may have been a major reason why the PS1 was successful and consequently the PS2.

Also the fact that Nintendo was capable of still producing some of the best games this gen on extremely dated hardware says something.

Pikminmaniac

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

In some ways weaker hardware can actually help. If it's more cost effective to develop for weaker hardware then perhaps more developers will flock to the weaker system. I think that may have been a major reason why the PS1 was successful and consequently the PS2.

Also the fact that Nintendo was capable of still producing some of the best games this gen on extremely dated hardware says something.

AzatiS

PSone was easier to develope for, the fact it used CD's was also a major pro for it aswell on top of that it launched at a nice pricepoint with a good marketing campaign and company strategy behind it.

The CPU in the PS1 was RISC based aswell, it was the right tech and the right time.

The biggest problems for PS3 has been architecture, the recession,price points and the way they advertise the console aswell.

So is that the reason why the WII sold alot? No, most family's with children loved the idea of motiong gaming. What about the Kinect that selles alot? Most people knew that there are like 10 good games for it...