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#51 rock_steady_bla
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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

again, Lemmings always hiding behind halo, acting like the 360 has like 16 titles that sold that well.

Yes, microsofts HIGHEST SELLING FRANCHISE THEYVE EVER MADE, sold more than a bunch of smaller franchises that sony made.

list me one 360 exclusive that sold over 5M not named Halo or Gears. Go ahead, I'l wait.

You wanna be fair, then if your gonna compare Microsoft's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME to something, then compare it to Sony's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME (Gran Turismo). Cows win;)

Please name a single PS3 game that has over at least 5 million sales period? Go ahead ill wait...........FOREVER

Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of The Patriots.............NEXT question;)

or GT5: Prologue. Wow lemmigns are really hurting lately, the tears taste so sweet and salty at the same time.
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#52 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]The reason I left out Gears and Halo, is because a large amount of 360 fanboys like to unhealthily cling to these two games. They believe that the 360 has like 8 titles that have sold this well. once those titles are removed from the equation, the 360 liabrary has to stand on its own two feet. The reason I selected those titles was because they were most of the titles that scored either AAA or high AA on Gamerankings. TheArmyGuy48

So why not include Forza 2 or Fable 2? You know actual exclusives that sold 4.00 million and 3.21 million respectively. No instead you went through the list and picked out titles that slightly under performed the titles you picked for the PS3.

You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

That isn't my point, my point is no matter what game you picked you always would have picked an xbox 360 game that slightly underperformed its counterpart.

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#53 TheArmyGuy48
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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

You wanna be fair, then if your gonna compare Microsoft's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME to something, then compare it to Sony's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME (Gran Turismo). Cows win;)

Sloan360

Wanted to look it up so i did

Gran Truismo 3 A-Spec (PS2) is the 12th best selling game of all time, and the original GT(PS1) is the 19th best selling game of all time.

I said SONY's best selling FRANCHISE of all time. Reading Comprehension FTL. But since you looked those numbers up, why dont you look up where Halo stands?
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#54 tehsystemwarior
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[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"][QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Please name a single PS3 game that has over at least 5 million sales period? Go ahead ill wait...........FOREVER

Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of The Patriots.............NEXT question;)

or GT5: Prologue. Wow lemmigns are really hurting lately, the tears taste so sweet and salty at the same time.

LOL, and I quote from your "ally" in this argument. "GT5 prologue: 3.94.". How those tears tasting now?
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#56 opex07
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You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

TheArmyGuy48

I believe those games received most of their sales being bundled.

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#57 themyth01
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]The reason I left out Gears and Halo, is because a large amount of 360 fanboys like to unhealthily cling to these two games. They believe that the 360 has like 8 titles that have sold this well. once those titles are removed from the equation, the 360 liabrary has to stand on its own two feet. The reason I selected those titles was because they were most of the titles that scored either AAA or high AA on Gamerankings. TheArmyGuy48

So why not include Forza 2 or Fable 2? You know actual exclusives that sold 4.00 million and 3.21 million respectively. No instead you went through the list and picked out titles that slightly under performed the titles you picked for the PS3.

You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

Except Forza 2 nor Fable 2 are the best selling games on the 360, not even the best 3. MGS4 is the best selling ps3 exclusive at 4.28 million, with Resistance at number 2, right? Well if you take number 4 from the PS3 then take number 4 from the 360 which could be Forza 2. With Fable 2 possibly following.
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#58 Rza_rectah
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those forza numbers are too lower to be true. if it is true then thats sad yeah i said it its sad.

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#59 svetzenlether
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Killzone 2:2.02M out of 27M bought this game (7% of PS3 owners)

Mass Effect:2.08M out of 34M bought this game (6% of 360 owners)

LittleBigPlanet:2.50M out of 27M bought this game (9% of PS3 owners)

Left 4 Dead:2.45M out of 34M bought this game (7% of 360 owners)

Heres some funny ones:

Killzone 2 launch week: 750k (remember, this game supposedly sold "nothing" and nobody cares about it :lol: )

Forza 3 launch week: 240k

Also, heres some 360 multiplats lifetime sales (These are to be compared with the PS3 exclusives above):

Bioshock: 2.34M(LittleBigPlanet outsold this game on a smaller userbase)

Fallout 3: 2.63 m

Orange Box: 0.91 m(LittleBigPlanet outsold this game on a smaller userbase) (killzone 2 outsold this game on a smaller userbase)

Fight Night Round 3: 2.03 m(LittleBigPlanet outsold this game on a smaller userbase) (killzone 2 tied with this game on a smaller userbase)

Fight Night Round 4: 0.89 m(LittleBigPlanet outsold this game on a smaller userbase) (killzone 2 outsold this game on a smaller userbase)

Resident Evil 5: 2.37 m(LittleBigPlanet outsold this game on a smaller userbase)

Street Fighter 4: 1.27m(LittleBigPlanet outsold this game on a smaller userbase) (killzone 2 outsold this game on a smaller userbase)

Next time you talk about how poorly Killzone 2 sold, remember, you are also talking about how poorly these other games sold.

TheArmyGuy48

First off, fanboy much???

Secondly dude, your post count's well over 500 at this point; you should know better than to use vgchartz as a source!!

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#60 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

So why not include Forza 2 or Fable 2? You know actual exclusives that sold 4.00 million and 3.21 million respectively. No instead you went through the list and picked out titles that slightly under performed the titles you picked for the PS3.

spinecaton

You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

That isn't my point, my point is no matter what game you picked you always would have picked an xbox 360 game that slightly underperformed its counterpart.

Maybe I give too much credit here but perhaps the point was to show that titles on the PS3 that poeple say have had disappointing sales have equaled or surpassed titles on the 360 people have said sold well hence the double standard. Even if cows create the absurd hype themselves, its hard to deny that in the wake of what he presented, its pretty ridiculous to say ME sold well but LBP didn't deliver. PS3 exclusives catch too much sales fllak imo.

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#61 SpiritOfFire117
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1) please do not mention halo 3... if there was a halo game each week all of xbox owners 'd buy it asap cause if the "sacred" name halo. if you looom at users reviews halo odst received a 8.3.... yes xbox owners buy it like a new vaccine for H1N1. and do not say that users score doesn t count, actually it is the only that counts. cause it is YOUR opinion. like mass effect it received a 8.5 fro gamespot but a 9.1 from users.

2) ps3 owners choose from a variety of exclusive games (or franchises) not just 2 (halo and GeoW) so sales are worse.

ok at this time demon's souls , dragon age, uncharted 2 , tekken 6, ratchet&clank and many more have been released. you expect all those game to get awesome sales? not it is not gonna happen in shortterm but in the long run it will happen.

Tell that to Halo Wars. User reviews?:lol: Like I'm supposed to take the word of 50 "Failo Sux" reviews over mine. Also Mass Effect isn't viewed as the "symbol of the Xbox" so it's not a target. Also Dragon Age and Tekken 6 are on the 360 too. So that point is void.
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#62 Sloan360
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[QUOTE="Sloan360"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

You wanna be fair, then if your gonna compare Microsoft's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME to something, then compare it to Sony's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME (Gran Turismo). Cows win;)

TheArmyGuy48

Wanted to look it up so i did

Gran Truismo 3 A-Spec (PS2) is the 12th best selling game of all time, and the original GT(PS1) is the 19th best selling game of all time.

I said SONY's best selling FRANCHISE of all time. Reading Comprehension FTL. But since you looked those numbers up, why dont you look up where Halo stands?

It's not even on the list of best selling games, or the best 20 anyway. It isn't the best FPS seller of all time because MW overtook it. It isn't in the top selling of bundled games either, meaning Halo 1,2,3, all together. It's only the bestseller on the 360 and the bestsellers on the Xbox. It hasn't done anything amazing in terms of sales besides sell them quickly. Other then that GT would crush it. Congrats you picked a winner.

And fine Best PS1 seller...GT. Best PS2 seller...GTA:SA. Best PS3 seller...MGS4. But GT has been mentioned on every one of those lists, but claimed the top spot in one of them. It has totaled 50million sales overall and is probably the best Sony seller.

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#63 rock_steady_bla
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"][QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of The Patriots.............NEXT question;)

or GT5: Prologue. Wow lemmigns are really hurting lately, the tears taste so sweet and salty at the same time.

You do realize you are wrong right? Please do some fact checking next time, you wont come off as a complete fool. Armyguy is wrong too

Prologue has sold 5.34 million last i checked around 4 months ago, right now it could be over 6 mill.
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#64 themyth01
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Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold more copies than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.
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#65 ActicEdge
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Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold more copies than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.themyth01

Wiifit sold more than all those combined. So what?

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#66 TheArmyGuy48
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Might wanna double check that bud.......i did right before i posted. Fizzman

As of November 2008 (a year ago from this coming friday) MGS4 has sold 4.33 Million.

As of February 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.5 Million (linking errors) (http://www.dailytech.com/Metal+Gear+Solid+4+Sells+45+Million+Copies/article14187.htm)

As of May 15 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.75 Million (its in the 4th paragraph)

Pretty safe to say it sold 5 million by now.

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Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold more copies than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.themyth01
yeah ms and bungie fooled alot of people.
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#68 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"] or GT5: Prologue. Wow lemmigns are really hurting lately, the tears taste so sweet and salty at the same time.rock_steady_bla

You do realize you are wrong right? Please do some fact checking next time, you wont come off as a complete fool. Armyguy is wrong too

Prologue has sold 5.34 million last i checked around 4 months ago, right now it could be over 6 mill.

nope its at around 3.3 something million

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[QUOTE="themyth01"]Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold more copies than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.Rza_rectah
yeah ms and bungie fooled alot of people.

So, Nintendo has made a lot of money, and so has MS, but Sony has lost billions in recent times. I think that's relevant, don't you?
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Do I get money if they sell better?
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold more copies than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.Rza_rectah
yeah ms and bungie fooled alot of people.

Sony wishes they could "fool" that many people. Hell, any business would. ;)
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#72 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

ActicEdge

That isn't my point, my point is no matter what game you picked you always would have picked an xbox 360 game that slightly underperformed its counterpart.

Maybe I give too much credit here but perhaps the point was to show that titles on the PS3 that poeple say have had disappointing sales have equaled or surpassed titles on the 360 people have said sold well hence the double standard. Even if cows create the absurd hype themselves, its hard to deny that in the wake of what he presented, its pretty ridiculous to say ME sold well but LBP didn't deliver. PS3 exclusives catch too much sales fllak imo.

I am not talking about if a games certain sales record is bad or not, I am talking about he ArmyGuy48 compared the games. Heck I think anything about 500k sales is good, I am simply commenting on his comparison to certain titles was performed.

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#73 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"] Might wanna double check that bud.......i did right before i posted. TheArmyGuy48

As of November 2008 (a year ago from this coming friday) MGS4 has sold 4.33 Million.

As of February 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.5 Million (linking errors) (http://www.dailytech.com/Metal+Gear+Solid+4+Sells+45+Million+Copies/article14187.htm)

As of May 15 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.75 Million (its in the 4th paragraph)

Pretty safe to say it sold 5 million by now.

So your only numbers are stating its under 5 million, and im gonna just assume they are now at 5 million. Call me when a ps3 game officially sells 5+ million.

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#74 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="themyth01"]Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold more copies than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.themyth01
yeah ms and bungie fooled alot of people.

So, Nintendo has made a lot of money, and so has MS, but Sony has lost billions in recent times. I think that's relevant, don't you?

its not relevant to what im talking about but those are true facts yes. No one really knows exactly how much sony is in the lose margin.
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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="93soccer"]You wanna know what else is funny? You comparing the sales of games that aren't related. Here's one: Halo 3:ODST week one sales: 2.2M on about 34 million users (approx. 6.4%) vs. Killzone 2: 2.02M lifetime sales on 27 million users (approx. 7.4% of users bought this since it's been out) Halo 3: week one sales: 3.8M on a smaller user base so approx. 60% of the user base bought the game!TheArmyGuy48

again, Lemmings always hiding behind halo, acting like the 360 has like 16 titles that sold that well.

Yes, microsofts HIGHEST SELLING FRANCHISE THEYVE EVER MADE, sold more than a bunch of smaller franchises that sony made.

list me one 360 exclusive that sold over 5M not named Halo or Gears. Go ahead, I'l wait.

You wanna be fair, then if your gonna compare Microsoft's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME to something, then compare it to Sony's BEST SELLING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME (Gran Turismo). Cows win;)

your acting like including the US is going to magically add like 600k sales figures or something. Especially when Europe is the larger market for Driving Sims.

Do you see yet that you left out North America?

You know, the region it was made for?

Could you add that when you get a minute?

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[QUOTE="themyth01"] Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.ActicEdge

Wiifit sold more than all those combined. So what?

pwnage confirmed in this thread right here folks.
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#77 TheArmyGuy48
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"]

So why not include Forza 2 or Fable 2? You know actual exclusives that sold 4.00 million and 3.21 million respectively. No instead you went through the list and picked out titles that slightly under performed the titles you picked for the PS3.

rock_steady_bla

You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

Except Forza 2 nor Fable 2 are the best selling games on the 360, not even the best 3. MGS4 is the best selling ps3 exclusive at 4.28 million, with Resistance at number 2, right? Well if you take number 4 from the PS3 then take number 4 from the 360 which could be Forza 2. With Fable 2 possibly following.

except I never mentioned MGS4 nor Resistance. I mentioned only the titles that get an incredible amount of sales flak, and compared them to highly acclaimed 360 titles, that every lemming is under the dilusion that it sold 5M.
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#78 Shinobi120
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This thread is a joke. Period. And using VG Chartz?

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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"][QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] [QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"] Might wanna double check that bud.......i did right before i posted. Jaysonguy

As of November 2008 (a year ago from this coming friday) MGS4 has sold 4.33 Million.

As of February 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.5 Million (linking errors) (http://www.dailytech.com/Metal+Gear+Solid+4+Sells+45+Million+Copies/article14187.htm)

As of May 15 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.75 Million (its in the 4th paragraph)

Pretty safe to say it sold 5 million by now.

So your only numbers are stating its under 5 million, and im gonna just assume they are now at 5 million. Call me when a ps3 game officially sells 5+ million.

or we can pretend that the title stopped selling altogether, and hasnt accumilated 250k within the last 6 months :roll:

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#80 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] yeah ms and bungie fooled alot of people.Rza_rectah
So, Nintendo has made a lot of money, and so has MS, but Sony has lost billions in recent times. I think that's relevant, don't you?

its not relevant to what im talking about but those are true facts yes. No one really knows exactly how much sony is in the lose margin.

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

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#81 themyth01
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.rock_steady_bla

Wiifit sold more than all those combined. So what?

pwnage confirmed in this thread right here folks.

So Nintendo selling more than MS and a lot more than Sony, changes the fact that 360 exclusives have sold a lot more than PS3 exclusives. Did not know that..
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#82 tehsystemwarior
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

As of November 2008 (a year ago from this coming friday) MGS4 has sold 4.33 Million.

As of February 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.5 Million (linking errors) (http://www.dailytech.com/Metal+Gear+Solid+4+Sells+45+Million+Copies/article14187.htm)

As of May 15 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.75 Million (its in the 4th paragraph)

Pretty safe to say it sold 5 million by now.

TheArmyGuy48

So your only numbers are stating its under 5 million, and im gonna just assume they are now at 5 million. Call me when a ps3 game officially sells 5+ million.

or we can pretend that the title stopped selling altogether, and hasnt accumilated 250k within the last 6 months :roll:

And we could also guess that Demon Soul's sold 10 million copies in it's first minute of sales.
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#83 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Here's a fun fact. Halo 3 has sold than KZ2, LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance 2 combined.themyth01

Wiifit sold more than all those combined. So what?

pwnage confirmed in this thread right here folks.

Yes pwnage against the PS3 games too. :roll:
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#84 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="themyth01"] So, Nintendo has made a lot of money, and so has MS, but Sony has lost billions in recent times. I think that's relevant, don't you?ActicEdge

its not relevant to what im talking about but those are true facts yes. No one really knows exactly how much sony is in the lose margin.

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

yeah but they also made profits on games and accessories aswell which is why i say that. they may have lost money on the ps3 but kaz said back in august that the games division has been profitable as a whole.
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#85 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

As of November 2008 (a year ago from this coming friday) MGS4 has sold 4.33 Million.

As of February 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.5 Million (linking errors) (http://www.dailytech.com/Metal+Gear+Solid+4+Sells+45+Million+Copies/article14187.htm)

As of May 15 2009, MGS4 has sold 4.75 Million (its in the 4th paragraph)

Pretty safe to say it sold 5 million by now.

TheArmyGuy48

So your only numbers are stating its under 5 million, and im gonna just assume they are now at 5 million. Call me when a ps3 game officially sells 5+ million.

or we can pretend that the title stopped selling altogether, and hasnt accumilated 250k within the last 6 months :roll:

Ok and you can uze VGchartz numbers for Forza III, and pretend like it didnt sell very well during its launch in NA.

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#86 themyth01
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[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"][QUOTE="Fizzman"] You also notice I left out the highest selling PS3 titles as well didnt you? I could easily list Resistance: 3.63, Motorstorm: 3.50, GT5 prologue: 3.94.

TheArmyGuy48

Except Forza 2 nor Fable 2 are the best selling games on the 360, not even the best 3. MGS4 is the best selling ps3 exclusive at 4.28 million, with Resistance at number 2, right? Well if you take number 4 from the PS3 then take number 4 from the 360 which could be Forza 2. With Fable 2 possibly following.

except I never mentioned MGS4 nor Resistance. I mentioned only the titles that get an incredible amount of sales flak, and compared them to highly acclaimed 360 titles, that every lemming is under the dilusion that it sold 5M.

You missed the point. If you mention MGS4 and Resistance then you'd have to mention Halo 3 and Gears of War, obviously you wanted to avoid that. However you also avoided Forza 2 and Fable 2, which are not the best selling games on the 360, why?

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#87 rock_steady_bla
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="themyth01"] So, Nintendo has made a lot of money, and so has MS, but Sony has lost billions in recent times. I think that's relevant, don't you?ActicEdge

its not relevant to what im talking about but those are true facts yes. No one really knows exactly how much sony is in the lose margin.

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

PS2 says Hi.
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#88 themyth01
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] its not relevant to what im talking about but those are true facts yes. No one really knows exactly how much sony is in the lose margin.Rza_rectah

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

yeah but they also made profits on games and accessories aswell which is why i say that. they may have lost money on the ps3 but kaz said back in august that the games division has been profitable as a whole.

Nope, if he did say that he lied.

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#89 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] its not relevant to what im talking about but those are true facts yes. No one really knows exactly how much sony is in the lose margin.rock_steady_bla

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

PS2 says Hi.

and then the PS3 proceeded to Mug the PS2 sales after saying hi.

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#90 rock_steady_bla
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

PS2 says Hi.

and then the PS3 proceeded to Mug the PS2 sales after saying hi.

ill be surprised if 360 even manages to outsell the ps2 this christmas let alone the ps3.
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#91 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rock_steady_bla"] PS2 says Hi.rock_steady_bla

and then the PS3 proceeded to Mug the PS2 sales after saying hi.

ill be surprised if 360 even manages to outsell the ps2 this christmas let alone the ps3.

Where do you get this stuff from? PS2 sales have fallen off a cliff.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Actually we do. Financialreports are public, Sony has lost around 4.7 billion dollars on the PS3. Basically we know who is making money and who isn't.

themyth01

yeah but they also made profits on games and accessories aswell which is why i say that. they may have lost money on the ps3 but kaz said back in august that the games division has been profitable as a whole.

Nope, if he did say that he http://quote.morningstar.com/stock-filing/Annual-Report/2009/3/31/t.aspx?t=SNE&ft=20-F&d=83144ad4896c4457lied.

dude couldnt you have taken a exert from the SCE ps3 division I dont even know what im looking for.

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#93 Rza_rectah
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why would he lie its not like they hide their facts http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

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#94 themyth01
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Replaced for non-business oriented people. Sony has lost $4.7 billion with PS3, more than they ever made with the PS2.

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#95 themyth01
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why would he lie its not like they hide their facts http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

Rza_rectah
And because they don't hide them, I know their gaming division lost $654 million for the recent quarter.
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#96 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Replaced for non-business oriented people. Sony has lost $4.7 billion with PS3, more than they ever made with the PS2.

i already acknowledged that the system lost money you even read what i wrote?
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#97 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

why would he lie its not like they hide their facts http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

And because they don't hide them, I know their gaming division lost $654 million for the recent quarter.

thats a quarterly lose which is likely due to the psp go and the massive slim price cut.
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#98 deadesa
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[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Please name a single PS3 game that has over at least 5 million sales period? Go ahead ill wait...........FOREVER

Fizzman

Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of The Patriots.............NEXT question;)

Might wanna double check that bud.......i did right before i posted.

Yeah last i checked it was around 4.28 mil

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*cough cough HALO 3 cough cough* I mean, ODST, the expansion probably sold better at launch then KZ2. And LBP appeals to a much larger audience(everyone excluding 12 year olds), while Fallout, Bioshock, and Orange Box appealed to a older audience, and no one likes boxing anymore.tehsystemwarior
lvl 5 and I like the way you think lol.
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#100 themyth01
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

why would he lie its not like they hide their facts http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

And because they don't hide them, I know their gaming division lost $654 million for the recent quarter.

thats a quarterly lose which is likely due to the psp go and the massive slim price cut.

Indeed it's only a quarter loss, imagine the annual loss. However Kaz is right, the PS3 is selling for more than it cost to manufacture, however when taking other expenses into account the PS3 is still making Sony bleed and has been doing so since its release. With such a competitive atmosphere, Sony may not make any money on the PS3 whatsoever.