Someone explain to me WHY Halo 3 is so EPIC

There are however other FPS that have achieved this and yet no one hears about them being bragged about to an endless extent.

Bashing derives from the bragging and hype.

Halo bashing thread? What?? The thread asked what makes Halo 3 so epic from other games? Start from the frist post.

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]

Wow. First of all, making a gaming site would require me to basically start a business with paid employers which I am in no position to do so. As far as bashing, I never bashed. I asked the question of "What makes Halo 3 so epic?" Red the original post. Thanks, have a nice. day.

comstrikeiscool

Dude we've seen this a million times nice try. People do this once a every couple of days. Pretend to wanna ask and talk about why Halo is looked at as amazing but it's done only to get people here so you can bash it without getting modded for doing so. We weren't born yesterday dude it's been done a million times and you're a million and one.

And btw...saying Halo is only popular because of Marketing is 100% bashing and trolling / flamebait.

Halo has huge sales, amazing Ratings for AAA and up for 3 games making it a AAA franchise. Yet it's the Marketing right?

Well by your very very wrong and absurd theory shouldn't "Snakes on a Plane" have made $500 Million at the box office and break records?

Hey "Dude," I'm not pretending about anything. I play fps games competitively on pc and was curious as to why Halo 3 was so good compared to other fps's. So please, don't jump to conclusion. As for Snakes on a Plane, that's a movie in a different field of entertainment.

this is my theory on why it is such a good game (sorry if i spell like crap i have been up for 2 days playing halo3) there is nothing indavidually spectacular about the game, every aspect of it is only average but it is the way that bungie put it together that makes it so much fun and makes the game get such great reviews, but compared to other games its not the best

gameplay isnt better than HL2

graphics arent better than crysis

online cant touch counterstrke in terms of longevity and awsome-ness

but it is the the game that has the higehst leve of all of them at once, most games are the best at one but not the rest (crysis seens to be the BEST in all by far but only time will tell)

anyway, i hope my theory provides some help to you now im going to bed

You see how everyones comments are in bubbles and that there are names at the top of each bubble indicating who said what...Yeah well look at that bubble once in a while and diffrentiate me from another poster. Your mixing up who said what.

Liquid-Prince

Is your name Comstrike? Cause I was replying to him as it says and shows.

just quote the person you are talking to and not everyone before him. these quotes are getting too long.ItalStallion777

casey is gunna have a fit when he sees this

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

You see how everyones comments are in bubbles and that there are names at the top of each bubble indicating who said what...Yeah well look at that bubble once in a while and diffrentiate me from another poster. Your mixing up who said what.

kcpp2b

Is your name Comstrike? Cause I was replying to him as it says and shows.

No, but when you were replying to him, you were using quotes from my post and not his.

EVERYONE!

Edit your posts.

Many of you have posts over 5 quotes and I can assure you Mods will be looking into this thread. I'd edit them if I were you.

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]

Hey "Dude," I'm not pretending about anything. I play fps games competitively on pc and was curious as to why Halo 3 was so good compared to other fps's. So please, don't jump to conclusion. As for Snakes on a Plane, that's a movie in a different field of entertainment.

kcpp2b

Oh so I guess if I come back with a list of games with Huge Marketing campaigns and sales that didn't match what would your excuse be then?

Like Lost Planet with a $20 Million dollar marketing campaign. Sales. Not even 1.5 Million.

Hmm....

Lost Planet didn't have the succes of 2 previous titles which began it's fanbase as well it is not a competitive game for tournaments.

did anyone see on the 1st page when he ocmpared Halo 3 multiplayer to C&C Renegade? Just thought Id bring that abck into the picture.hazuki87

If you played Reneagde you'd understand.

did anyone see on the 1st page when he ocmpared Halo 3 multiplayer to C&C Renegade? Just thought Id bring that abck into the picture.hazuki87

i liked renegade, that game was the **** when it was new

No, but when you were replying to him, you were using quotes from my post and not his.

Liquid-Prince

You need to reread it

I was replying to this:

Millions play it because Microsoft puts millions into advertising it thus allowing all the casuals to think its amazing.

comstrikeiscool

I was talking about his posts only because...and him saying "thanks to your post he was saying that's what he agrees with and was saying all along. Savy?

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]

Hey "Dude," I'm not pretending about anything. I play fps games competitively on pc and was curious as to why Halo 3 was so good compared to other fps's. So please, don't jump to conclusion. As for Snakes on a Plane, that's a movie in a different field of entertainment.

comstrikeiscool

Oh so I guess if I come back with a list of games with Huge Marketing campaigns and sales that didn't match what would your excuse be then?

Like Lost Planet with a $20 Million dollar marketing campaign. Sales. Not even 1.5 Million.

Hmm....

Lost Planet didn't have the succes of 2 previous titles which began it's fanbase as well it is not a competitive game for tournaments.

Interesting so then how did Halo 1 become succesful? Maybe because it was a good game just like 2 and 3 are....

Dude just give it up. Advertising does not = Sales

I work in the film industry and it is all relative. Film, Music, Games. Advertising doesn't mean crap if the product is really bad. If Halo wasn't this epic and good it would have sold millions AND be rated so highly for 3 games straight.

[QUOTE="hazuki87"]did anyone see on the 1st page when he ocmpared Halo 3 multiplayer to C&C Renegade? Just thought Id bring that abck into the picture.comstrikeiscool

If you played Reneagde you'd understand.

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]

Hey "Dude," I'm not pretending about anything. I play fps games competitively on pc and was curious as to why Halo 3 was so good compared to other fps's. So please, don't jump to conclusion. As for Snakes on a Plane, that's a movie in a different field of entertainment.

kcpp2b

Oh so I guess if I come back with a list of games with Huge Marketing campaigns and sales that didn't match what would your excuse be then?

Like Lost Planet with a $20 Million dollar marketing campaign. Sales. Not even 1.5 Million.

Hmm....

Lost Planet didn't have the succes of 2 previous titles which began it's fanbase as well it is not a competitive game for tournaments.

Interesting so then how did Halo 1 become succesful? Maybe because it was a good game just like 2 and 3 are....

Dude just give it up. Advertising does not = Sales

I work in the film industry and it is all relative. Film, Music, Games. Advertising doesn't mean crap if the product is really bad. If Halo wasn't this epic and good it would have sold millions AND be rated so highly for 3 games straight.

Advertising does not equal sales, advertising equals hype which then lead to sales.

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]

[QUOTE="hazuki87"]did anyone see on the 1st page when he ocmpared Halo 3 multiplayer to C&C Renegade? Just thought Id bring that abck into the picture.killtactics

If you played Reneagde you'd understand.

they are both equal, in their own ways

Advertising does not equal sales, advertising equals hype which then lead to sales.

Liquid-Prince

Obviously Advertising leads to hype but still that DOES NOT lead to sales.

I can prove you wrong a MILLION times literally throughout the history of Advertising from MANY different genres inside the different mediums of Entertainment. I know a woman who works in marketing and everyone knows it doesn't = sales.

It merely gives those products that are good a chance to be seen enough to start the word of mouth which is the real advertising that works. OR it helps bad movies do more sales then it should.

If Halo was all hype / advertising it would not be doing what it's doing now especially in a 3rd installment.

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

Advertising does not equal sales, advertising equals hype which then lead to sales.

kcpp2b

Obviously Advertising leads to hype but still that DOES NOT lead to sales.

I can prove you wrong a MILLION times literally throughout the history of Advertising from MANY different genres inside the different mediums of Entertainment. I know a woman who works in marketing and everyone knows it doesn't = sales.

It merely gives those products that are good a chance to be seen enough to start the word of mouth which is the real advertising that works. OR it helps bad movies do more sales then it should.

If Halo was all hype / advertising it would not be doing what it's doing now especially in a 3rd installment.

That's still advertising.

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

Advertising does not equal sales, advertising equals hype which then lead to sales.

kcpp2b

Obviously Advertising leads to hype but still that DOES NOT lead to sales.

I can prove you wrong a MILLION times literally throughout the history of Advertising from MANY different genres inside the different mediums of Entertainment. I know a woman who works in marketing and everyone knows it doesn't = sales.

It merely gives those products that are good a chance to be seen enough to start the word of mouth which is the real advertising that works. OR it helps bad movies do more sales then it should.

If Halo was all hype / advertising it would not be doing what it's doing now especially in a 3rd installment.

That doesn't make sense. Hype comes from wanting, wanting is fulfilled by buying, so how exactly does hype not get to sales?

get over it haters, the game scored a 9.5, it's the biggest seller ever, more people like it than hate it, it's a blast to play, quit whinin' and get over it crybabiesSegArgyle

You know what truly annoys me about Halo? It's not even the game, it's people like you.

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]get over it haters, the game scored a 9.5, it's the biggest seller ever, more people like it than hate it, it's a blast to play, quit whinin' and get over it crybabiesLiquid-Prince

You know what truly annoys me about Halo? It's not even the game, it's people like you.

well, boo hoo, wah wah, you know what annoys me about video games as a whole? It's people like u, people that all they do is hate on games or movies that people love, just because you either suck at it or just lead a miserable life, ruining the fun for everyone, tell mommy to change your diapers, and move on

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]get over it haters, the game scored a 9.5, it's the biggest seller ever, more people like it than hate it, it's a blast to play, quit whinin' and get over it crybabiesSegArgyle

You know what truly annoys me about Halo? It's not even the game, it's people like you.

well, boo hoo, wah wah, you know what annoys me about video games as a whole? It's people like u, people that all they do is hate on games or movies that people love, just because you either suck at it or just lead a miserable life, ruining the fun for everyone, tell mommy to change your diapers, and move on

If you read more then the latest page you would know that no one here hates Halo, and were just edbating whether Halo is truly an epic game.

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]get over it haters, the game scored a 9.5, it's the biggest seller ever, more people like it than hate it, it's a blast to play, quit whinin' and get over it crybabiesLiquid-Prince

You know what truly annoys me about Halo? It's not even the game, it's people like you.

well, boo hoo, wah wah, you know what annoys me about video games as a whole? It's people like u, people that all they do is hate on games or movies that people love, just because you either suck at it or just lead a miserable life, ruining the fun for everyone, tell mommy to change your diapers, and move on

If you read more then the latest page you would know that no one here hates Halo, and were just edbating whether Halo is truly an epic game.

well.....well.......thats my response to the haters

meh

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]get over it haters, the game scored a 9.5, it's the biggest seller ever, more people like it than hate it, it's a blast to play, quit whinin' and get over it crybabiesSegArgyle

You know what truly annoys me about Halo? It's not even the game, it's people like you.

well, boo hoo, wah wah, you know what annoys me about video games as a whole? It's people like u, people that all they do is hate on games or movies that people love, just because you either suck at it or just lead a miserable life, ruining the fun for everyone, tell mommy to change your diapers, and move on

what are you 2? argue like a man don't insult like a boy.

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

Advertising does not equal sales, advertising equals hype which then lead to sales.

Liquid-Prince

Obviously Advertising leads to hype but still that DOES NOT lead to sales.

I can prove you wrong a MILLION times literally throughout the history of Advertising from MANY different genres inside the different mediums of Entertainment. I know a woman who works in marketing and everyone knows it doesn't = sales.

It merely gives those products that are good a chance to be seen enough to start the word of mouth which is the real advertising that works. OR it helps bad movies do more sales then it should.

If Halo was all hype / advertising it would not be doing what it's doing now especially in a 3rd installment.

That doesn't make sense. Hype comes from wanting, wanting is fulfilled by buying, so how exactly does hype not get to sales?

You think just having "hype" from advertising will generate Halo's kinds of sales?

No...Hype can generate sales like Maybe 50 Cents game which was crap but because he has a name it was hyped to be a game casuals will like and it sold over a Million. But that kind of a game would never do 6 Million.

Games like Halo are sold through word of mouth. Like why I bought it. I heard it was great from friends and my bro.

I mean if someone dislikes halo that's fine but it sold well because it's a good game for many other people like me... a great game for me. Just like Final Fantasy or Gran Turismo could be great for Bob but for me it could be really boring and not for me. Doesn't mean I'm gonna now say GT sold because of advertising. Advertising and hype from it gets people in the door but if the products if crap the chain reaction will happen like it did with 50 cent.... all the casuals bought it but the chain reaction hit and those who know it to be crap spread the word and all the hype couldn't bypass the fact that it sucks.

ok this sums up everything on advertising:

the more advertising you have the more likely someone is to buy your product but does not directly translate into sales.

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]get over it haters, the game scored a 9.5, it's the biggest seller ever, more people like it than hate it, it's a blast to play, quit whinin' and get over it crybabiesLiquid-Prince

You know what truly annoys me about Halo? It's not even the game, it's people like you.

well, boo hoo, wah wah, you know what annoys me about video games as a whole? It's people like u, people that all they do is hate on games or movies that people love, just because you either suck at it or just lead a miserable life, ruining the fun for everyone, tell mommy to change your diapers, and move on

If you read more then the latest page you would know that no one here hates Halo, and were just edbating whether Halo is truly an epic game.

Not saying you are doing this but you should know this has been done MANY times before and almost always it's been done to by the TC to bash Halo in a way that looks as if they really wanna learn about why people think it's good when really they wanna tell and convince others how bad or overrated or overhyped or etc... the game is. And the TC is doing and has done that whether you see it or not.

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

Advertising does not equal sales, advertising equals hype which then lead to sales.

kcpp2b

Obviously Advertising leads to hype but still that DOES NOT lead to sales.

I can prove you wrong a MILLION times literally throughout the history of Advertising from MANY different genres inside the different mediums of Entertainment. I know a woman who works in marketing and everyone knows it doesn't = sales.

It merely gives those products that are good a chance to be seen enough to start the word of mouth which is the real advertising that works. OR it helps bad movies do more sales then it should.

If Halo was all hype / advertising it would not be doing what it's doing now especially in a 3rd installment.

That doesn't make sense. Hype comes from wanting, wanting is fulfilled by buying, so how exactly does hype not get to sales?

You think just having "hype" from advertising will generate Halo's kinds of sales?

No...Hype can generate sales like Maybe 50 Cents game which was crap but because he has a name it was hyped to be a game casuals will like and it sold over a Million. But that kind of a game would never do 6 Million.

Games like Halo are sold through word of mouth. Like why I bought it. I heard it was great from friends and my bro.

I mean if someone dislikes halo that's fine but it sold well because it's a good game for many other people like me... a great game for me. Just like Final Fantasy or Gran Turismo could be great for Bob but for me it could be really boring and not for me. Doesn't mean I'm gonna now say GT sold because of advertising. Advertising and hype from it gets people in the door but if the products if crap the chain reaction will happen like it did with 50 cent.... all the casuals bought it but the chain reaction hit and those who know it to be crap spread the word and all the hype couldn't bypass the fact that it sucks.

A 10 million dollar ad campaign better as hell be able to draw in at least 6 million in sales.

A 10 million dollar ad campaign better as hell be able to draw in at least 6 million in sales.

Liquid-Prince

God oh mighty dude. You think Halo 3 sold how much it did because of ads? It would have sold how much it did if the ad campaign was 2 Million or less. This campaign is a big push for MS and console sales and for Non Halo players. Just like how it is with Spiderman 3 etc... And to a lesser extent reignite the passion for the game for those who loved the previous games / movies.

Halo 3 would have easily sold atleast the same as Halo 2 with a 1 Million dollar advertising campaign everyone knows it.

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

A 10 million dollar ad campaign better as hell be able to draw in at least 6 million in sales.

kcpp2b

God oh mighty dude. You think Halo 3 sold how much it did because of ads? It would have sold how much it did if the ad campaign was 2 Million or less. This campaign is a big push for MS and console sales and for Non Halo players. Just like how it is with Spiderman 3 etc... And to a lesser extent reignite the passion for the game for those who loved the previous games / movies.

Halo 3 would have easily sold atleast the same as Halo 2 with a 1 Million dollar advertising campaign everyone knows it.

Not all because of the ads, but you have to agree, a 10 million dollar campaign sure does help.

Its a great game, just play it and enjoy it.No one is saying "its teh best gamez everzzzz!!!!!".And if you cant enjoy it , just accept the fact that you're in the minority and move on.whocares4peace

Actually the minority of people like Halo or any game ever made really. Same with films and tv shows.

Y'know what I want to do after playing Halo 3?

Play the original. Halo 3 is nothing special. It's obvious where all the effort went (multiplayer), and rightly so by Microsoft's eyes: it brings in the most money. Those who love the campaign are left out in the cold.

Single player was very disappointing, multiplayer is cool, but overall Halo 3 is OK but not nearly as great as the original.

And who cares if it got a 9.5 and 10s from every site on this earth? That does not make it so. There are politics going on behind the scenes that would hand out heavy consequences to those sites that gave it anything less than what these HUGE corporations deem it should have (*cough* MS *cough*), not to mention loss of credibility by the gaming site's audience which would affect it's userbase.

Gamespot, IGN, and many other mainstream sites are in a way forced and coercedby many considerations into giving it a high rating despite what they think it truly deserves.

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

A 10 million dollar ad campaign better as hell be able to draw in at least 6 million in sales.

Liquid-Prince

God oh mighty dude. You think Halo 3 sold how much it did because of ads? It would have sold how much it did if the ad campaign was 2 Million or less. This campaign is a big push for MS and console sales and for Non Halo players. Just like how it is with Spiderman 3 etc... And to a lesser extent reignite the passion for the game for those who loved the previous games / movies.

Halo 3 would have easily sold atleast the same as Halo 2 with a 1 Million dollar advertising campaign everyone knows it.

Not all because of the ads, but you have to agree, a 10 million dollar campaign sure does help.

Help sure but TC makes it look like Halo sells because everyone is blinding by marketing

Um like this.

The Epicness:

1. Its main character is a male (and usually is in an epic)

2. The main character performes great (sometimes supernatural) deeds

3. The plot takes the course of which it begins and ends on a large scale of its setting(s)

The Non-Epicness:

1. Story is taken from tradition generic themes, butupgrades it.

2. Master Chief is as generic as a character should NOT be in an Epic.

3. Other characters are more interesting than the main character.

The only thing that can be considered truly an epic is its multiplayer. Other than that its success is not souly due to its quality, but to its hype and marketing.

Y'know what I want to do after playing Halo 3?

Play the original. Halo 3 is nothing special. It's obvious where all the effort went (multiplayer), and rightly so by Microsoft's eyes: it brings in the most money. Those who love the campaign are left out in the cold.

Single player was very disappointing, multiplayer is cool, but overall Halo 3 is OK but not nearly as great as the original.

And who cares if it got a 9.5 and 10s from every site on this earth? That does not make it so. There are politics going on behind the scenes that would hand out heavy consequences to those sites that gave it anything less than what these HUGE corporations deem it should have (*cough* MS *cough*), not to mention loss of credibility by the gaming site's audience which would affect it's userbase.

Gamespot, IGN, and many other mainstream sites are in a way forced and coercedby many considerations into giving it a high rating despite what they think it truly deserves.

Rekunta

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

i'll reverse your point. just because you think it's overrated doesn't make it so.

Theres nothing that "epic" about Halo 3 as far as I'm concerned, its just a really fun game.Corvin

and in the end is all that matters

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Y'know what I want to do after playing Halo 3?

Play the original. Halo 3 is nothing special. It's obvious where all the effort went (multiplayer), and rightly so by Microsoft's eyes: it brings in the most money. Those who love the campaign are left out in the cold.

Single player was very disappointing, multiplayer is cool, but overall Halo 3 is OK but not nearly as great as the original.

And who cares if it got a 9.5 and 10s from every site on this earth? That does not make it so. There are politics going on behind the scenes that would hand out heavy consequences to those sites that gave it anything less than what these HUGE corporations deem it should have (*cough* MS *cough*), not to mention loss of credibility by the gaming site's audience which would affect it's userbase.

Gamespot, IGN, and many other mainstream sites are in a way forced and coercedby many considerations into giving it a high rating despite what they think it truly deserves.

ItalStallion777

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

i'll reverse your point. just because you think it's overrated doesn't make it so.

No, it's not a conspiracy, but if you believe it's as simple as it appears to be then you're not looking hard enough. Do you really think one of the biggest games in the industry would be critiqued on it's ownmerits alone without taking into consideration the ramifications of what would happen if it were scored honestly?

Please someone, anyone tell me why Halo 3 is so amazing. As far as I'm concerned its like Halo and Halo 2 and I don't see why people find it so much better then the first 2 and better then other first person shooters in that respect.comstrikeiscool

If as far as your concerned its like halo 1/2 then why ask? you obviously already have your mind made up and don't really care. Is this yet another attempt to bash halo 3?? its getting sad. Especaily if you are a cow, you know why...

[QUOTE="nivet14"]Halo 3 is the definition of EPIC. A good singleplayer along with the best Multiplayer to date, Forge and the new saved films feature. GREATNESS.comstrikeiscool

See, it's people like you who generalize halo 3. "The best multiplayer to this date..." I don't think so. Maybe after you've played unreal tournament '99 or command and conquer renegade you would have a clue.

a lot of it is opinion. you're certainly welcome to not like it. personally, i think the campaign is really good...not great, but really good.

[QUOTE="ItalStallion777"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Y'know what I want to do after playing Halo 3?

Play the original. Halo 3 is nothing special. It's obvious where all the effort went (multiplayer), and rightly so by Microsoft's eyes: it brings in the most money. Those who love the campaign are left out in the cold.

Single player was very disappointing, multiplayer is cool, but overall Halo 3 is OK but not nearly as great as the original.

And who cares if it got a 9.5 and 10s from every site on this earth? That does not make it so. There are politics going on behind the scenes that would hand out heavy consequences to those sites that gave it anything less than what these HUGE corporations deem it should have (*cough* MS *cough*), not to mention loss of credibility by the gaming site's audience which would affect it's userbase.

Gamespot, IGN, and many other mainstream sites are in a way forced and coercedby many considerations into giving it a high rating despite what they think it truly deserves.

Rekunta

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

i'll reverse your point. just because you think it's overrated doesn't make it so.

No, it's not a conspiracy, but if you believe it's as simple as it appears to be then you're not looking hard enough. Do you really think one of the biggest games in the industry would be critiqued on it's ownmerits alone without taking into consideration the ramifications of what would happen if it were scored honestly?

have you read and seen the reviews? they reflect the scores it got. remember it is given a score based on all components of the game. when you look at everything that halo 3 is you can see it is deserving of the score it got.

yea and i'm sure microsoft will hunt down reviewers that gave halo 3 a bad score.

[QUOTE="Rekunta"][QUOTE="ItalStallion777"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Y'know what I want to do after playing Halo 3?

Play the original. Halo 3 is nothing special. It's obvious where all the effort went (multiplayer), and rightly so by Microsoft's eyes: it brings in the most money. Those who love the campaign are left out in the cold.

Single player was very disappointing, multiplayer is cool, but overall Halo 3 is OK but not nearly as great as the original.

And who cares if it got a 9.5 and 10s from every site on this earth? That does not make it so. There are politics going on behind the scenes that would hand out heavy consequences to those sites that gave it anything less than what these HUGE corporations deem it should have (*cough* MS *cough*), not to mention loss of credibility by the gaming site's audience which would affect it's userbase.

Gamespot, IGN, and many other mainstream sites are in a way forced and coercedby many considerations into giving it a high rating despite what they think it truly deserves.

ItalStallion777

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

i'll reverse your point. just because you think it's overrated doesn't make it so.

No, it's not a conspiracy, but if you believe it's as simple as it appears to be then you're not looking hard enough. Do you really think one of the biggest games in the industry would be critiqued on it's ownmerits alone without taking into consideration the ramifications of what would happen if it were scored honestly?

have you read and seen the reviews? they reflect the scores it got. remember it is given a score based on all components of the game. when you look at everything that halo 3 is you can see it is deserving of the score it got.

yea and i'm sure microsoft will hunt down reviewers that gave halo 3 a bad score.

No, I can't. I have played Halo 3 from start to finish, am an avid player online, and have thoroughly read all the major reviews. I believe it's overrated, you do not. Fine, that's differing opinions, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

This is besides the point, but GS no longer scores games based on component scores ever since the .5 increment system arrived. Halo 3was not scored that way, but isjudged as an overall package.